Estate agent recomendation on selling a property

Portia


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 31

Message Posted:
01/09/2009 10:56

hi

can anyone recommend a good English speaking Estate Agent for wanting to sell an apartment?

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
01/09/2009 11:03

Try Dogan Boransel of Aphrodite bros. e-mail aphroditebros@kktc.net tel: 0090 392 8211 746 or 0090 533 867 1911

Jayne


Joined: 01/12/2008
Posts: 499

Message Posted:
01/09/2009 11:14

Try Ahmet at Esquare Estte Agents in Girne - 0392 815 8689

Kitty1


Joined: 15/03/2007
Posts: 683

Message Posted:
01/09/2009 11:17

Margot at Ian Smith Estates, Nicola at Korina or Sandra at Landmark Estates. All have websites and they are all very helpful, knowledgeable and pro-active.

Aga Buyers A G


Joined: 04/10/2007
Posts: 488

Message Posted:
01/09/2009 11:52

Margot or Jackie @ Ian Smith estates or perhaps give North Cove a try we haven't had any feedback from anyone yet as regards them - so for an ABAG recommendation best they get their fingers out.....lololololol

mermaid


Joined: 23/07/2009
Posts: 135

Message Posted:
01/09/2009 12:38

Hello



Sunbeams Estate are constantly seeking apartments for sale in Kyrenia give them a call 0392 822 39 10 or email info@sunbeamsestate.com

Sunbug


Joined: 28/04/2009
Posts: 208

Message Posted:
01/09/2009 15:34

I am working for an estate agent in Girne. If you like we could place the apartment on our listings. Please let me know if you are interested and we could arrange a meeting & viewing of your apartment.

HildySmith


Joined: 02/07/2009
Posts: 1708

Message Posted:
01/09/2009 15:38

Remax - on the main street in Kyrenia

Good English and Good Customer Service.

petez


Joined: 04/12/2008
Posts: 560

Message Posted:
01/09/2009 15:41

Try posting an ad on our site ..

http://www.lincguide.com/for-sale



Several people have sold property in North Cyprus on our site recently by using an advocate without needing an estate agent..

booitsme


Joined: 04/02/2009
Posts: 667

Message Posted:
01/09/2009 15:58

Try Bob Hay at H&B Estates. They give a really good service and are very professional

vincent1


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
01/09/2009 17:59

Why bother with estate agents. I tried most of the above and they were a waste of time. Most of them never showed my villa to a single person. Also they all want very high commission rates.

I stuck a 'for sale' sign with a phone number on the front gate and sold it in no time. Anybody can fill in the forms at the tax office and land registry and you get to keep ALL the money. Give it a try.

cronos


Joined: 26/10/2008
Posts: 2093

Message Posted:
01/09/2009 18:04

Vincent....good advice...it's got to be worth a try initially.



Estate agents don't do themselves any favours at all with 5% commission rates.

vincent1


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
01/09/2009 18:09

It's not just 5% commission. They add VAT on top of that. You have to add a lot extra to the selling price to allow for this amount that you can make your property unsaleable.

lesgee


Joined: 09/06/2009
Posts: 27

Message Posted:
01/09/2009 19:51

youve tried the rest now try the best, Wendy @ homebuyers estate agents is very good and has the access to solve your legalities as well call her on 0533 8640032 have known her for over 2 years now and wouldn't go to anybody else

robinhood


Joined: 06/05/2009
Posts: 71

Message Posted:
01/09/2009 22:10

you could try the for sale section on 44,

kimig1


Joined: 22/06/2008
Posts: 73

Message Posted:
02/09/2009 08:41

Don't!! It's very easy to sell it yourself, subject to the glut on the market at the moment.

Estate Agents will charge you a fortune,

........which means you will have to up your selling price

....which means you won't sell, because there are so many other properties on sale by deserting (!) Brits!

scoobydoo


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
02/09/2009 14:45

Put a for sale sign outside the house but make it a large'ish one, you only need 'for sale' and a telephone number. If you live away from a busy road, put a sign at the end also.



We sold our last house like this then got our lawyer to do the paperwork for us.



We had more viewings and calls from this one sign than we did from all the agents put together!

Queen180


Joined: 13/04/2009
Posts: 399

Message Posted:
02/09/2009 16:46

Why are you all slagging off estate agents - they are not all in the same category just because you have had a bad experience. Some are very hardworking and do actually have customers.... I would love to see some of you try to sell a house in this marketplace with all the propaganda and criticism that they are up against. Some agents are just trying to make a living without you all adding to the negativity on this rock!

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
02/09/2009 17:28

Queen180/Msg 18:



Please be kind enough to specify what 'propaganda'?



Do mean that 'sharp practice' and downright deceit should be considered the norm, blithely accepted and never criticised, so that scoundrels can 'legally' take advantage of decent, honest people?



So, whom do you consider to be the honest ones?



You could really help a lot of people if you would oblige by divulging your information on this forum.

MarkVPiazza


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 530

Message Posted:
02/09/2009 19:18

If you have water & electric connections, and the deeds in your name, you have a good chance of selling via your own sign or via North Cyprus bulletin boards.



If you don't, I think you'll have a tough time selling, no matter what selling method you use.



Mark

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
02/09/2009 22:33

"You'll thank me one day" "PTP is just a formality, I'll get it for you for only £500, half what your lawyer will charge", "the army base is not a problem"



Bless him. Am I negative about estate agents in NC?

Portia


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 31

Message Posted:
03/09/2009 00:26

you are all so kind to offer all the advice - thank you.



although i agree with most of you on selling the property myself i feel unable to as

1) unfortunately i am back in the UK therefore am not able to stick any posters up on the windows myself

2) waiting for ex partner to vacate the property after Ramazan



i will print all your comments and hopefully start making some calls at the weekend



Ta x

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
03/09/2009 07:02

Hope you can get ex partner out - this can be very difficult here...

look2


Joined: 17/07/2009
Posts: 107

Message Posted:
03/09/2009 09:37

by the new estate agents law ; you cant sell property without any estate agnts stamp on your contact?

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
03/09/2009 09:47

look2 - if that is law, it is tantamount to an infringement of 'Human Rights'.



What will come next - one can't sell one's car, except through a licensed car dealer?



Are you saying this is new TRNC or UK legislation?

ChristineOne


Joined: 03/09/2009
Posts: 1

Message Posted:
03/09/2009 10:31

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vincent1


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
03/09/2009 10:36

Strange this. I have just sold a villa without the assistance of either an estate agent or a solicitor. There definetely was no estate agents' stamp on the contract nor was one asked for at the land registry.



What the hell message 26 about ???

bumbum


Joined: 18/06/2009
Posts: 743

Message Posted:
03/09/2009 11:11

ALL THE SAME ,,CHIT CHAT ,, NO BUYERS NO SELL!!!!

vincent1


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
03/09/2009 11:27

There are plenty of buyers out there. Getting the right price is the problem at the moment.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
03/09/2009 17:53

vincent1/Msg29:



'There are plenty of buyers out there.'



And plenty more 'tyre-kickers...'!



Desperate estate agents must be running up considerable vehicle and 'gratis lunch' expenses on these bludgers = 'free-loaders'!

tulik


Joined: 14/07/2009
Posts: 220

Message Posted:
03/09/2009 22:48

www.northcoastcyprus.com Hard working, honest, family run company. NO Complaints against them.

vincent1


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
05/09/2009 07:39

Kenakoutou.

Believe me there are plenty of people out there looking to buy property. The locals only want Turkish title.

They will get taken round by the estate agents during the day then return in the evening to try and knock the price down without estate agents' commission. We had loads of them trying to buy our villa.

The sign on the gate prooved to be the best way of selling. We tried 5 estate agents who were a complete waste of time. Most did not bring a single buyer to the villa. They will attempt to get you to drop your price but are not so keen to reduce their commission rates. Their rates are far too high at present for what they do.

I personally wouldn't trust any of them . Do it yourself, it really is quick and easy. Get a buyer. go to the tax office and then the land registry. You need tthe help of a Turkish speaker to fill in a few forms...that's all.

smooth


Joined: 04/07/2009
Posts: 156

Message Posted:
05/09/2009 09:16

Well it is interesting to read some of the comments about the best way to sell your house!! It is not easy to find a buyer in the current climate and the best advice is to try as many marketing platforms as you can, including a sign on your property. Also many vendors do have an over inflated idea of what the value of their property is, basically if you purchased in the last 2 - 3 years you will not have made much, if any, profit unless you bought at a knock down price to begin with. Estate agents have to charge a fee, everybody works for money! If you are unhappy with the service they provide then drop them, easy. You can of course advertise in the newspaper and set up your own website, subscribe to portal websites, send details to UK agents who promote Northern Cyprus Properties, advertise in the various magazines etc. And of course they all will be happy to do this for free!!!! (not).



And the comment about VAT? Not serious surely?? It is a tax!!

Portia


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 31

Message Posted:
05/09/2009 16:23

he is quite happy to move out so cant see it being a problem

Portia


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 31

Message Posted:
05/09/2009 17:41

i spoke to an estate agent today and he told me that it was illegal to put for sale posters up on your own property and that sales have to by law be advertised through an estate agent...



huh!

vincent1


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 212

Message Posted:
05/09/2009 18:21

What a load of rubbish !!!

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
05/09/2009 20:26

Portia: suggest you contact Brinsley, who can advise the appropriate remedy to this estate agent's reply - I hear he rents out Bazookas, 'gratis' - or, at least, for a very small cash consideration!

tarry67


Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 1053

Message Posted:
05/09/2009 20:32

This was the case about 18 months ago that you had to use an estate agent but the law changed again as usual. I have sold in karsiyaka without an agent no problem. I do agree though that not all agents are bad and do serve a purpose. Go with what you are happy with its your property at the end of the day. If I bought a villa for eg £80k and was selling at £150k would 5% really be a problem I think not. Try spain at 15% that would hurt.

Stewart


Joined: 19/07/2008
Posts: 1107

Message Posted:
06/09/2009 20:00

Ask how many they have sold, like yours, in the last 4 weeks....why waste time on empty promises, you need to work with a company that can deliver!

Portia


Joined: 02/07/2008
Posts: 31

Message Posted:
13/09/2009 14:30

i spoke to the estate agent from whom i bought the property. he suggests that i wait till my partner has left the property making it easuer to sell but thats not the problem, i just want someone to take some pics and put it on the market regardless of who/what is in the house.



I tried to find numbers for local newspapers but no joy - if anyone can recommend someone they no i would appreciate details.



but why is it so damn hard or am i so accustomed to our british ways?

roisin


Joined: 19/03/2009
Posts: 358

Message Posted:
20/09/2009 13:35

I can highly reccomend Sunbeams estate agency http://www.sunbeamsestate.com email info@sunbeamsestate.com tel no office 0392 822 3910. mobile 0533 849 89 59. Friends and neighbours used them to sell and rent their properties and so far there has been nothing but praise for their service. They helped every step of the way. Also I saw a lovely letter about them in the Sept/Oct issue of Living Property magazine. Hope this helps

Calmperson


Joined: 19/09/2009
Posts: 17

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 07:15

Been looking for 5 years and dealt with many agents the top ones we respect (for knowledge and trustworthyness) are - in no particular order - Pia or Hayat at Donaghey and Beyler (Catalkoy), Jez Pilcher at Ian Smith (Alsancak), Iain Fraser at Meridies (Girne), Kirk and Nicola at Korinia (Alsancak/Girne border) and Abdelazim at Sunbeams (Alsancak - affilliated with a respected builder - Ali Yemeneci hope I spelled that right). These are real people - they care and will do the best they can for yo



They work hard to sell your property - they have websites, produce documents and sales brochures, promote the property, drive prospsective buyers around to view etc etc.



They have been doing this for some time - they know what property is worth and how to sell it - if they say a property is worth X, but the vendor wants X + £15K - guess what - it won't sell. I have seen properties on the market for 18 months - get real - if you want to sell, use these people and accept a realistic offer.

daffojill



Joined: 06/07/2008
Posts: 4

Message Posted:
29/06/2010 22:26

we are just going through the stages of selling our property, and are being charged 5% plus 17.5% vat, how can companies in TRNC charge VAT at that rate, surely VAT at 17.5% is a uk tax? and the estate agent, although is run by english, I believe the owner is turkish? please advise, I thought you had to be registered for VAT before you can charge it?

scoobydoo


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
29/06/2010 22:36

Msg 43: we have found that they want to charge 5% plus kdv (I did think kdv was 16% but I am not 100% sure) of the 5% however with most of the agents you can in fact negoitiate 5% to include kdv. Personally I think 5% is a rip off full stop!



Alternatively, agree a sum of money as I would think that business is slow and anything is better than nothing for them, within reason as they have to earn something out of the deal.



Or negotiate a lower % ie 3% or 4% plus kdv, there are enough agents around doing little business that there is some flexibility in their charges

blondie35


Joined: 23/10/2008
Posts: 37

Message Posted:
16/10/2010 14:32

Hollo you should contact Melek at Meleks Property, she is a lovely friendly and very professional person, she has just opened up her business and i think she is making an offer on commisions ie perhaps lower than the more established agents in Girne.

meleksproperties@gmail.com

03928160755

05338715310

blondie35


Joined: 23/10/2008
Posts: 37

Message Posted:
16/10/2010 14:42

try meleksproperties@gmail.com

03928160755

05338715310



she is really helpful and has just set up in business in Girne, she is an excellent sales woman

Sideways



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Posts: 529

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16/10/2010 22:14

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Message Posted:
18/12/2010 11:28

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wilkins77


Joined: 09/11/2010
Posts: 31

Message Posted:
20/12/2010 13:11

My name is Nicola and I used to work for Korinia Estates and as I have been recommended in this thread a couple of times. I would like people to know that I am now working for Donegal Developments in their resales department as their Sales Manager.



I am still very much working with selling resale properties, so if anybody is looking to buy a property, or indeed sell their property, please contact me on 0533 831 2263 or email me on nicola@donegal-developments.com



Thank you and also, thank you very much to the people that recommended me very much appreciated.



Nicola

Rambo3


Joined: 22/09/2010
Posts: 96

Message Posted:
20/12/2010 21:10

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No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
20/12/2010 21:34

Ian Smiths have been in the trnc for years and really know their stuff.

raidercruise


Joined: 07/06/2010
Posts: 237

Message Posted:
23/12/2010 11:55

East or West...Sunbeams is the best. I Recommend Sunbeams estate. Happy Christmas to everyone..

email info@sunbeamsestate.com

mysterio13


Joined: 18/01/2011
Posts: 12

Message Posted:
18/01/2011 21:14

hi i live in the south and i'm british and i own a piece of land in Karsiyaka...the title deed is pre 74 owned by my mother who btw is cypriot!this makes the deed completely safe...i am willing to sell it if the price is right...the land is in the centre of the village and it's 894 square metres...

trooper


Joined: 04/07/2009
Posts: 211

Message Posted:
21/01/2011 20:25

Ian Smith is the one for me. They actually know about The Property Misdescriptions Act . Trustworthy, helpful

and definitely know their stuff., They've been here for longer than most and can actually be trusted.

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
21/01/2011 23:49

Message 53.



You would have to sell to a TC as foreigners cannot get PTP on Pre 74 Turkish Title.

macgiblet


Joined: 07/07/2009
Posts: 65

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 08:03

Sorry but would not recommend Nortcoast, they seem very helpful and genuine, but all that changes once it comes to contract and their payments, we have had several dealings with them and they certainly showed their true colours.



I personally do not think it matters which agency you choose, it is a hard market at the minute and all you can do is make sure your property is the best it can be and with a bit of luck you will sell.



Good Luck

me-style


Joined: 03/08/2010
Posts: 150

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 08:55

The commission is 3% and not 5%, look out carefully as some real estate companies will paint you very romantic pictures, watch out for certain real estate chains that will try to make you a deal with you sign a contract with them you agree they can sell your appartment for 50.000 and then they put it for sale for 70.000 and the difference they put in the pocket + they charge you commission as well.

WotNoDeeds!


Joined: 26/08/2009
Posts: 687

Message Posted:
22/01/2011 16:24

I personally would recommend Fraser Meridies who are professional and pro-active and get results. Contact Sophie via their website or, alternatively, 'phone 0090 392 816 0814.