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canyavuz

Joined: 22/02/2009 Posts: 363
Message Posted: 03/09/2009 01:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 7 in Discussion |
| Interested in other's views on the compulsory flu jabs which the NHS are going to introduce to help fight against the over publicised swine flu. Would you get this jab done? |
gillken

Joined: 25/05/2008 Posts: 521
Message Posted: 03/09/2009 02:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 7 in Discussion |
| The British and American governments have ordered enough swine flu vaccine for the entire population. It is clear they intend to make vaccination compulsory What is happening now has been planned for a very long time. We should not forget, however, that 'normal flu' kills hundreds of thousands of people a year worldwide. Have no doubt that large numbers of those people will now be officially designated as a death from swine flu, whether they are or not. We must not succumb to compulsory vaccination, nor pressure from those who lack a mind of their own. If we concede our freedom to stop the state enforcing vaccination upon us and our children, what the hell freedom is left? |
Hippo

Joined: 02/02/2007 Posts: 2070
Message Posted: 03/09/2009 06:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 7 in Discussion |
| Fortunately they can not make it compulsory, Britain is far from a police state. Yet!! I remember when there was the great publicity drive to make parents have their children vaccinated against Whooping cough, a doctor friend of ours told us i can treat whooping cough i cant treat brain damage (remember the problems that arose afterwards) this vaccine has been rushed through i wonder how much testing has taken place? |
exnavalperson

Joined: 22/07/2009 Posts: 224
Message Posted: 03/09/2009 09:11 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 7 in Discussion |
| I very very much agree. NO comp. vaccination. Remember, that unless you agree, sticking a needle into you is a CRIME. I suspect that what has happened here is that the chemical companies have made biliions of doses of vaccine and they have been left with them when they expected to make obscene profits from world wide demand. So the flu ran its course with a relatively small death rate and thus a small demand . These comps. have gone to the government and told them to do something quickly to increase the demand. [It should be noted that global comps TELL their governments what to do] Next year we will have another flu epidemic, as we do every year, but it will be in a slightly different form and swine flue vaccine will be useless. The only thing the goverment could do is to falsify swine flu figures and give them much publicity. Personally, I think ALL govt. figures are false. |
gillken

Joined: 25/05/2008 Posts: 521
Message Posted: 03/09/2009 10:07 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 5 of 7 in Discussion |
| In February, 2009, Drug Company "Baxter's" Austrian branch sent batches of what was supposed to be human influenza (H3N2) vaccine to 18 different European countries. These countries were to use these vaccine samples to produce human flu vaccines for their populations. One country, the Czech Republic, tested these batches and found them to be contaminated with live Avian inflenza virus (H5N1 - Bird flu). Had this vaccine been administered to people prior to this contamination being discovered, it could have caused a deadly pandemic Baxter had been given stocks of Avian inflenza virus by the US government so it could work on producing a vaccine against any future outbreak of this disease. This virus was provided to them under the condition that they would adhere to the required Biosafety Level 3 strict controls. Had these controls been followed, this sort of contamination would have been impossible. There are only 2 conclusions one can draw from the fact that this contamination event to |
gillken

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Message Posted: 03/09/2009 10:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 7 in Discussion |
| cont...... There are only 2 conclusions one can draw from the fact that this contamination event took place. Either:Baxter were incredibly careless with their procedures causing an accidental contamination which then, incredibly, was allowed to get out into millions of doses of vaccine before anyone noticed; orThe contamination was intentional and it was only a matter of luck and good due diligence on the part of the Czech officials that this was caught before anyone received the contaminated vaccine lots.The outbreak of Swine Flu (H1N1) which has led the World Health Organisation (WHO) to declare the highest possible level of pandemic awareness - Level 6 - began in Mexico City - right near a Baxter Labs facility which was working on experimental flu vaccine. |
gillken

Joined: 25/05/2008 Posts: 521
Message Posted: 03/09/2009 11:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 7 in Discussion |
| This might be no more than a coincidence were it not for the fact that on August 28, 2008, Baxter Labs filed for a patent (# US20090060950A1) on H1N1 virus - almost a full year before this outbreak occurred or H1N1 had ever been heard of! This patent demonstrates that Baxter was working on a vaccine which would have been composed of several different types of viruses including human, pig, dog, horse and avian flu. http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/about/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClqUcScwnn8 So "no" I will give it a miss. |
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