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Lilli



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Tonight a the saddest looking dog I have ever seen. He is a bag of bones. I think he is a Kangal . He is beautiful but so very sad. He responds to english which makes me beleive he had british owners. He jst turned up and slumped due to dehydration. We have fed and watered him. I just want you whoever you are . If you read this forum. I have got him he is safe. He will be fed graduallly when he can take it. Monday he will be at the vet. How could yOU



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Hi Liz - I have some problems of my own right now, but your little message has reduced me to tears (again). What the hell is wrong with people?



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Lilli



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Hi Jeannie I had a birthday party in tonight and in fairness when they saw this stagger to us they all offered thier food asked us for containers. I cried so much. I have never seen anything like this. I sAID give me a pawand he did. Anyway he is safe he is with me until monday we will take him to the vets as I dont want to overl load his system. What more can I di . I said no more BUT. Im in the wrong buisnes



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Bless you Lilli for caring so for him. As you said, how COULD these people DO this to an animal????



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Its terrible to see how people treat these dogs.. Im even more shocked and embaressed if it was left like that by English people.



But its thanks to people like you Lilli that keep people working to save the dogs.



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Before this thread jumps to (wrong?) conclusions: Lilli, your care for animals is absolutely above doubt. But some dogs do run away or cannot find their home again. If the owner turns up after reading or hearing about this thread we may all be sorry for the harsh words.



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That may be true Dutch and is a fair point, but seeing how animals in general are treatd in Cyprus the former is more likely. If he has got lost and is loved then when Lilli takes him to the Vet he'll be microchipped and re-united with his owners.



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Mess 7. I meant he will already be microchipped



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Lets pray his owners turn up...maybe they lost him or he was taken from them. If that's not the case and he has been abandoned, then yes, how could you!!



Bless you Lilli x



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Liz, you are an angel. Lets hope that it`s the same situation as Margaret and Graham had with Pedro. How he survived all the weeks he was away I dont know. It sounds as if this poor soul is in the same condition as he was. Fortunately, Pedro found his way back. We think he must have been locked in somewhere.



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Some months ago, a member of this forum known as Viking Queen, otherwise Liz Ben, lost her Kangal in the Alsancak area and posted the picture of the dog on her. Fingers crossed it might be the same dog.



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Here's the link louthlass mentioned in msg 11: http://www.cyprus44.com/forums/12904.asp



If you click on vikingqueen's nickname you get her profile with a picture of the Kangal (uploaded by Izzet). The thread doesn't say that vikingqueen's Kangal was ever found.



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I have done a search, but cannot find a telephone number. Liz Ben is the wife of Gultekin Ben of Imperial Construction. Maybe somone who knows them can let them know there is a dog that could be theirs at Guido's.



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All posts about Kangals on this board here: http://tinyurl.com/mnvhfr



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vikingqueens mobile phone number was in one of her posts: 0533 861 5820



Lilli



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Hi all thanks for that info. Dutch you are so right maybe I did just jump to the wrong conclusion. I hope so. hope he is lost and can be reunited soon. I will try to call Viking and see if its Busta xx



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I hope there is a happy ending, Kangals are the most loyal dogs.



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Lilli, You are one of lifes TRUE christians



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Unfortunately she's married to a mean, mean chess player...



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Last year I had a Kangol turn up on my doorstep close to the Ciitrus Tree Hotel in Alsancak, so I put a posting on the net and asked around bars etc. Eventually the owner contacted me and was very upset because he and his family had lost the dog 3 days before, he was a Cypriot that worked in Nicosia. He lived, if I can remember, down near the Merit Hotel, just past the green coast (now Mosquito Bay) hotel, although he came to my house so never actually been to his home? Maybe worth a look with the dog.



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Lilli



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H Tarry I will try that but he cant walk very far at the moment. His back legs are very weak. He can only pee pee sitting down as he cant raise his leg. I have been with him all morning just got in now.Pertev cant see him till tomorrow. If anyone has lost the lovely dog he is with me safe and sound. I spoke with Liz Viking bt I dont think its Busta as from her discription he is a lot darker. He didnt respond to that name either. He looks like he has been on the streets some time. xx



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I'm so glad this poor dog turned up on your doorstep Lilli, any other he could have been less fortunate! I do hope his owner comes forward, and that there is a happy ending. Thanks Lilli for your kindness and care!

Julie (UK at the moment)



Lilli



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Hiya Julie I dont think anyone would have turned him away the state he was in. Hes a bit better today and made himself very comfortable. I hope and pray he gets returned but he didnt have a collar on.Email me to catch up xxx



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Hi Lilli

This poor dog is not the only one that has been left behind by english people someone also left a male dog up i the mountains to fend for himself he didn't have a clue how to do this and just by luck he was found and taken to Kar he to was a bag of bones and very dehydrated, He also responds to English and is a very loving dog. I am so glad that this poor animal found you before it was to late.

People need to wake up to the fact that if they need to return back to the UK then don't leave your pets to defend for themselves because they can't.



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Sad to see an animal in that way and hope he gets a good home.

Not all locals/Turkish are indifferent to animals. I remember when I stayed

at Salamis there were stray dogs poisoned and one lovely Turkish lady (artist)

was trying her best to look after the remaining bitch with puppies. She was trying

to get someone to take them on as they were in cellar of our building but I was

leaving at time. Don't know what happened but don't have much hopes for them



Lilli



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Thank you Leskey and Phyl. Its really sad when people have to leave for whatever reason but seeing how these poor souls do not cope has really upset me. I hope as some suggest that he is lost and the owners will welcome him back. He is a very loving character and has responded well to us today. We took him to the beach but his legs are very weak. I wont put him back on the street. Tomorrow he is going to the vet to get checked and maybe put on a drip . Then I will get his big long coat off him and cleaned up. Will go back to see him and take him out again once I have walked my lot xx



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Lilli. is this poor old guy a 'dog' Kangul and if so does he have old scarring toeither his left or right hind leg? If so maybe be able to advise further. You are a star xx



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Lilli.. well done my dear. the credit crunch must be biting hard on some folk if they have to abando a dog because they cannot afford to feed it.I know somebody has said it may not have been abandoned, could be lost.maybe,more likely escaped or abandoned.If the person who is responsible comes for him Lilli,give him a large piece of verbal for letting the dog get in that sort of condition.Its a pity public flogging has been outlawed in the western world,maybe it still exists in the Muslim world.One can only hope..



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Coachie,

Slow down a bit

If the dog 'got itself lost' some weeks or even months ago, which is perfectly possible, how can you tell the owner off for 'allowing to get in that state'?

Piling speculation on top of speculation does no one any good, let's wait and see what facts we can find out, and see what happens eh?



lesleyd,

you wrote "This poor dog is not the only one that has been left behind by english people"

Could I ask what evidence you have that this animal was, in fact 'left behind by english people'?



Best regards,

Keith.



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Didnt Lilli say the dog understands English commands keith, so either the dog is lost or dumped. It is very strange that so many dogs seem to get 'lost' in NC.

I think coachie has hit the nail on the head re credit crunch, as once 10 to feed a big dog a week was just like having a hobby, but when it comes to having to give up something, some thoughtless people just pass the problem on or drive out into the country side where the dog doesnt know its surroundings and dump it, bl--dy cruel to do either........



Lilli



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Natile I will find out tomorrow when I take him to Pertev. He is a bit better tonight but stil weak in his legs. Thank you my lovely Coachie and Dizzy. Keith I was going to call you tomorrow to take some pics after he has been to Pertev xxxxx. He has eaten today and at last drunk some water rather than using a dropper to put some in his mouth. Tell you what though as a mark of his apprecaition he put his front paws on guidos shoulders and he is bigger than guido



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I am certainly not a religious person.

But got one thing to say about slagging off the local,"muslim" public in this part of the world.

specialy,you(mr so called coachie)



Racism and Culture are two different things.

they certainly dont fit together

Relegion is another matter!



Nobody flogs nothing here.Everyone buys at their own will.

Any of you wants to look "angel"!

do it at your own expense.

What if that was a dog that was found few months ago, made better, put back on streets,and back to square one again!

You want to do something good!Do it and shut up.

Stop slagging off the locals.

If you dont like it here that much!Free lift to airport from me when seen one way ticket.



Coachie:My houses in UK are now sold,I'll be coming over to get on the dole que with everyone else as well.

I am BRITISH after all.LIKE IT or LUMP IT.



You moan about how things are in UK when you are there,

and

you moan about Cyprus when here



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As usual some people change the subject without any reason. this thread it's about a poor dog and to try to trace the owner or a gentle soul that can take care of him, not about muslim or dole or potential race discrimination. if anyone want to talk about the above subjects you can always start a new thread.

guido



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Well said Guido - how is the doggie today? hope he gets on ok at vets bless him



Mrs Millzer



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So,what would you do with him if he gets "ok"at the vet today?



here is a phobne no if you get stuck:0533 873 9181



NO MEDAL REQUIRED



Lilli



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Hi Yorgozlu. We hope to see if he is lost and if so Keith will post a picture in case it jogs anybodys memory. If not I guess we will keep him in the hope we can get him a home. Thank you for the phone number ill keep it in case I need to contact you. Just to get him well is our main priorety. xx



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Lilli, are you having any funds from any where to help with the vets fees and the food that these strays need? perhaps it seems that someone or the English seem to know that you will feed/tend these animals. Could this be another reason why the dogs are coming your way?

Could somehow, some funds be raised for the help towards these expenses? Just a thought, as in England now but help can be made available via somebody/something....... lol x



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Coachie me old beaut, think a lot of the dumping of dogs is done by the English! most of the English have a lot of dogs which I do not have a problem with, but if you read on this forum there are English fed up with whatever and then I bet you anything a lot just clear off and leave the dogs/cats for someone else to sort out. The English folks that live here and are not moving back do keep trying to help. A burden likely to increase.lol x



Yorgozlu, I think you too are a very kind person to help, but I can see that this is not going to get any easier for any one actually living in NC. lol x



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Since there are no (un)official figures available about "dumped dogs" by Dutch, Brits, Belgians, Russians, Cypriot Turks and a handful other nationalities I think we should stop accusing any nationality. It doesn't help a bit. All we can do is trying to help where possible - and I DO know it doesn't help to solve the bigger "dog problem".



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DC, not really blaming any one, but you only have to look on this forum to see the English are looking for others to take in their dogs as they have to leave.

As Lilli is always taking in these pups/dogs, somehow, us, that do not live full time in NC, could help, re funds or whatever. I look at kar and think, the dogs there are well looked after, but not an ideal life is it. So many dogs and cats that need homes.

How do you suggest that the 'bigger problem' is addressed? ...



Lilli



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Hi Dizzy . No I do it all myself and it costs me all I have. Its vets etc that takes up my limited resources but then I cant let them starve . xxx



Lilli



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Hiya Natile and Yoro. He has been to the vets it appears he is a cross Alsatian with German Sheppard. about 2 years old. He is a little better today and responding well to us. Had injections for his pain. Frontline,Worming and first injection. Still not drinking much but Pertev said to keep him on tinned food as this contains a lot of liquid. dIzzy forgot to say with the dogs and cats I get I do manage to get some rehomed.Which its very rewarding. Unless Max (thats what Ive called him) is claimed then I will do this. xx



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Here's a couple of pictures of Max: -

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2504/3896629689_91e5bdac86_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2661/3896629695_c3da514e50_o.jpg

He's a fine looking dog, despite being on the thin side, and very well behaved and obedient.



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Max looks such a lovely placid dog, what stories are behind his sad eyes. He's beautiful, wish I was in a position to take him, he suits the name Max. Hope to goodness he finds a loving and lasting home. Thanks for all you do Lilli.



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Hi Liz. There is some hope for this young man to recover. What a lovely picture and I`m glad to tell you that he is in no way the condition poor Pedro was in when he returned home. That does not detract from the situation you are in though and I agree with Dizzy surely we can all help to lessen your load financially.



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yORGOZLU..I certainly was not slagging off the Muslim locals as you seem to think.If anything I was actually backing your beliefs on public flogging,whether it be for mistreating a dog or stealing or whatever..No dog gets in that sort of state naturally.it has to be starved of food.Even if it got free from where ever it was being held, dogs are very resourceful animals,and can always find enough to survive without it ending up like a bag of bones. You certainly have got the wrong end of the stick young man.I do NOT moan about MY country at all,I have ago at people who do not live here, who slag it off,and think that the TRNC is the best place on this planet.You have your problems there just the same as we have here ,just that ours are a helluva lot more than yours.You can come back here any time you like and sign on the dole,you will not be out of place,just they are tightening upon people coming back for that reason,so best of luck.I did not moan about my stay in TRNC,very enjoyable..



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Coachie, could you check the title of this thread and stay on topic, please?



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DC.. I was merely answering the mans questions,aND i DID STAY ON TOPIC THANK YOU SIR..



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DC, coachi is on topic, he was just defending his self re statement from yorgozlu! lol



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MSG49;

No one needs to defend nothing,other than the "dog"itself!!!



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yorgozlu you are so right, just I got no answer to the ongoing problem of the dog issue in NC, perhaps we are all doing the wrong thing in helping these dogs, I dont know.

But all I do know is that it aint going to get any better, and it will be more of a burden to those that care, lol



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Can I tell you all this is a difference in two days. With his injections etc. He has had 6 tins of food since last night. He still will not drink hence the tinned dog fod. He has had so much love from our customers and is responding. Keith will tell you under that coat all you feel are ribs and my lovely friend Keith thank you for the pics I went to find Oscar for a photl call and you had gone. Thank you for the food. You are a star xxxxxxx Its trely appreciated xx



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Hi Lilli & Guido, do you still want tinned food or , when Max gets stronger, would you like a bag of dried food, just let me know, also when are we ever going to meet for lunch!!!!!!! - anyway will help you with Max food wise - love Paddy xxxxxxxx



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my lovely friend as u know we both do this as we care We dont need to be regonised its from our hearts. we only wish we could do more xxxxxx i am limited with my time and money



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Abandoned dogs,lost dogs,escaped dogs are not unique toTRNC. we have dozens of adverts on tv here from organisations asking for donations so they can look after abandoned dogs.It should be made legal that if you own a dog,apart from the licence fee,you should be made to have the animal chipped, so if does go missing for what ever reasons, it can be traced back to its owner,who will then have to give an answer as to why the dog was on the loose.Stray dogs can become very dangerous too.You do not know what sort of disease it MAY be carrying,hence in the UK we have dog catchers to round up these animals and take them to a compound and if they are not claimed or rehomed in a certain time they are unfortunately put to sleep.Not a very nice conclusion but you cannot have dozens of stray dogs on the streets causing lots of problems.You may think I am dog hater,wrong ,I have owned three dogs in my life,but I am also a practical man who thinks of the well being of others...



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Well guys we have another dog that is wondering where is my lovely caring owner?????



See pictures attached:

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A German Shepherd and an Alsatian are the same dog arent they, Once upon a time they were all called Alsatians and then they were changed to German Shepherds. So what cross would Max be? Those 2 crosses would make him a purebred surely???? I apolgise for my ignorance if they arent the same!!!!



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Yes they are the same dog, apparently after WW 2 the Kennel Club changed the name of this breed to Alsatian as anything German was not very popular. After a number of years the name reverted to GSD again. Max looks a beautiful dog let's hope he recovers soon & finds a good home.



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Having had German Shepherds looking at the th photos of Max he looks more pure bred rather than X breed. If only I stayed in TRNC I would take him in a minute. GS are very intelligent and loving dogs, I do hope someone will give him a good loving home but I know he will be well looked after with Lilli until then. He will be a very handsome boy when he fills out a bit.

Queen 180 , your little dog looks adorable. Maybe just as well I stay in the UK or this one would have mean't I would have become an owner of three dogs in the space of a few days.

Hope they can all be homed.



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Do you know 4 days now the difference in him chabges by the hour. He can now stand up. He is responsive and is eating now selective. We had to mix his dog food with pasta tonight. Once we fill his ribs we will consider what to do. The state he was in and christ knows how he arrived with me. One minute I was serving customers turned around and he was there. I still think it was poison. However he is on the mend. tHE SAME CUSTOMERS i SERVED WHEN i FREAKED OUT WHERE in tonight (apoligy for caps they turned themselves on) saw him and they were the first to offer thier food they could not beleive the differene. I have seen it from lunch today. He is a different dog tonight. Where he came from I dont know or care anymore all Im glad to save him xxxxx



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If you have a very big heart He is truely lovely. also loved by me. If you can give him a home. please contact me 05338336911. You know my trouble the longer i have them i grow so attached and so do they. Its so hard xxxxxx



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keithcaley Message 29



The evidence that I have is the same as the dog Lillie has it responds to commands of sit give a paw lie down come here would you say that's enough evidence?? as most of the people that have seen this poor animal plus took photo's of him seem to think so. But maybe everyone that's seen him are wrong but I think not.

There was also a lovely little dog left tied up at the gates with ribbons in her fur and a little coat on and this dog has also come from English owners that couldn't offord to take her back home with them but at least they did leave a note with her and not abandon her up in the mountains to fend for herself.



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Also while on the subject of stray dogs in the UK not all dogs that are found are put to sleep after a certain time there are quite a few pet rescue centers that any animal that is healthy will not be put down and will be kept at the rescue until found a home.

You can also check that out Coachie.



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lesleyd,

I have no wish to fall out with you.

The purpose of my message, as it related to 'Max' was that all of the available evidence could equally well indicate that the dog had run away, got out, got lost, whatever.

I think that it is better to keep an open mind as to the cause, and simply concentrate on doing what one can for the dog.

I would be willing to contribute my thoughts if you wish to start a thread devoted to 'Dogs abandoned by British Ex-Pats', with suitable examples...

By the way, who are the people who have taken photo's of him, who believe that he has been abandoned?

At least this keeps the post near the top!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2504/3896629689_91e5bdac86_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2661/3896629695_c3da514e50_o.jpg

Best regards,

Keith.



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Leslied..I did not say all dogs were put down my dear.They are taken to an animal compound, where they keep them and try to find them some new home,but they cannot keep them there forever and some are put to sleep..Like i said ,not nice,but some times nesessary..



Lilli



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Well The bag of bones His name is MAX after the very first german shepard in UK . His progres has been slow. We have had many probss . Returning to Pertev our Vet. Im taIring my hair out for a broken hearted dog watching him. Today we have had a major turn around. Thanks to a lovely family TOTTIE YOU Have done more than i could I thank you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



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Hi Lilli just stoped by to ask how is Max doing now??



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Liz, does this mean Max has found a home? Please say yes.



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Think Max still needs homed, but have a feeling that if left much longer Lilli will have an added member to the family. German Shepherds know who love them and will protect that person (family) to their own death if that is the case. How I wish I could have Max but at present I know he is cherished. Lilli, don't know when I will be next in NC but whether it is you or Max@s new mum and dad (hopefully) I need to meet the mutt and bring pressies from the UK just for him.

Liz you are a star. XXX



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Liz tried to send you an e-mail but for some odd reason message was not sent. Will try tomorrow. Just so tired at the moment.

Can we have a new photo of Max pleeese.

my e-mail address is cathmaca@hotmail.co.uk .

XXXXX



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Bogle you are so right.That guy has come one in one weed w have brought him back to life



Lilli



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Hiya all. Max is very well now and so happy. The difference in this short time is remarkable. He is well loved and now he knows it. I think he may have been beaten in the past as he hates me sweeping the floor. We tried to get him to fetch a stick but he got very scared. He is costing me a fortune as he only likes chicken and steak and lamb with the odd bit of parma ham. He is worth it. He has become so attached to us its going to be hard to find him a home. If anybody would like a beautiful german shepard about 18 months old pleaser contact me. I will arrange to get a picture now he isnt a skelaton on here xx



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Lilli, You (and Guido) have looked after this dog very well and he is a credit to you.Well done.



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Thank you Bill xxx



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