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uktvdirect


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www.uktvdirect.com it's here and working in Cyprus check it out !



millzer


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Well, heeeeeeere we go, cue 6m's and co, sit back, and enjoy



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Oh yes,I cant miss the second round of the match between uktvdirect and 6ms!



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how small is the dish ????



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well its nice home made website, wonder if its NVQ level 2 or 3 work, looks like its had the 2 million spent on it as promised !



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I just emailed him and he emailed me back straight away give the guy a chance before you have a go. Lets see what he has to offer then criticise or compliment.



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ok , where can we check it out then ??



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the footprint of this sat does not reach eastern med.



cyprusunited


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Where is mmmmmm?



uktvdirect


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You need a 1.35m - 1.8m dish in Northern Cyprus for good reception 24/7 depending on exact area.



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You will be waiting a long time for a fight this time i am not responding to satellite TV installers that are attacking the system because they are nervous about losing business, i understand their concerns as this system is a major worry for them and their massive & expensive 4m + dishes that are also not secure or safe as proved by the loss of CH4 and ITV1 for many on N.C in the last few weeks.



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Dear UK TV Direct



Welcome back...



1/ Please explain WHAT business *I'm* going to "lose" ?



2/ I note your " announcement " that your service would work on a 1.2m dish has "disappeared", too... as I pointed out .. the dish size needed will INCREASE as your "cut price" inclinded orbit "bird" does ever bigger figure of eights in the sky.. not that the business model will last that long...



3/ Didn't you notice I am posting articles demonstrating how folk can get F1 GP, ITV, and the Channel Four family - all for NOTHING - via a 1.8m dish ... so much for "losing c4 and ITV" ;)



Isn't it "ironic" that the moment you chose to launch the UK terrestrial companies are allowing folk to get the channels for free?



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I CAN spell inclined, really



an explanation of an inclined satellite..



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclined_orbit



a satellite that is near the end of it's life as it is low on fuel and can't be reliably kept in a steady position



As CY is on the edge of the footprint this means that the signal will vary greatly and get weaker..



The website is not the only budget thing about this "outfit" - that are pirating FREE TV content ( rebroadcasting it - without permission - and trying to charge for it...:o



james1970


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Hi

I have been travelling around the med this summer looking at places to move to permanently.

One of the things that is important (for them anyway) is TV for the kids.

I have been keeing any eye on this forum as it has some very good information and discussion, but the prospect of a 4m dish for UK TV does sound a bit worrying - a 2.4m dish in Spain suddenly sounds OK!

But then again this system sounds worrying, especially when reading the comments on the previous thread, and other forums:

http://www.satellites.co.uk/satellite/meeting-place/157526-encrypted-freesat-24-5%BA-gear-exposed.html

So a few questions please:

Is this system legally using the UK TV signals?

What are the prospects of it being switched off by the broadcasters?

What are the monthly / yearly subscription charges?

And I have to agree - the website is very poor - the previous thread said all questions will be answered when the site is up and running - but there is no answers to any if the questions on there



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>>Is this system legally using the UK TV signals? <<



The answer you'll get is that "our lawyers are comfortable with our operation and we'd hardly invest all this money .."



>>What are the prospects of it being switched off by the broadcasters? <<



Medium to long term very high, but if you can get the content for FREE on a small dish why pay a pirate ?



>>What are the monthly / yearly subscription charges? <<



YEARLY..649 Euros ?! if this was a SERIOUS operation they'd know that clients would rather pay monthly in advance..by credit card..



Now if they DO offer monthly payments and by credit card that would show they aren't relying on clients risking THEIR money and were *professional*.



zerochlor


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649 Euros. 649 Euros. how much!



you must be barking raving mad



i get most of them channels now for sweet FA



you say 60 to 80cm dish in your expensive website?



but then in this thread you say





You need a 1.35m - 1.8m dish in Northern Cyprus for good reception 24/7 depending on exact area



How do you fancy being a pool cleaner for zerochlor next year,you might make more money!!



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i argued with mmmmm once - never again !



He knows more about anything than Garry Monger's Missus.....



Argue at your peril.....



uktvdirect


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"YEARLY..649 Euros ?"



The above is the average fully installed price for Dish, HD Receiver & 1 years service NOT a yearly cost.



The price would be a lot less if the customer already has their own Dish, HD receiver.



james1970


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"The price would be a lot less if the customer already has their own Dish, HD receiver. "

So how much is a yearly subscription?

How much if I supply my own dish and receiver?



To be honest if you are now saying a 1.35m - 1.8m is required then may be going for a big 4m dish and getting the channels for free is not a bad idea.



Would I need a similer 1.35m - 1.8m for South Turkey also?



(I know that TV should not be a deciding factor in where me and the family move to, but have to consider it for the kids - next area for me after Spain will be Tuscany area of Italy!)



uktvdirect


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Visit the website for specific questions & more info: http://www.uktvdirect.com i am not turning this into a heated debate that goes on for pages and pages like the last one.



At the end of the day do whatever is best for you, no one is forcing anyone to buy this system or a 4m dish system whichever route you decide to chose you should think long and hard about it before parting with any money.



There are pro's and con's for both systems and you should consider these carefuly before you decide which way to go.



END OF POST - others are welcome to continue to debate this for as long as you like but i will not be responding so if you require support or other information contact us via the website.



james1970


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All I am asking is for a price for the monthly or yearly subscription rate, and the cost should I provide my own equipment (which your brought up on here!) This information is not on your website hence why I am asking you on here, and which I am sure others would find useful also if you posted these prices on here also.

I don't think I am being too unreasonable by asking for prices on a thread which you are using to advertise this service.



beanbag


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Hi everyone, new to the forum. just registered as i found this thread very interesting.



Just one simply question to the people who are knocking the system.

would you feel safer if the website was a commercially produced "flashy" website.



minertor



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msg 20, don't let many M's beat you so easy, make a fight of it or we'll think you've summat to hide.



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Is there an installation being watched by a satisfied customer that we can go and see? The proof of the pudding, and all that.



zerochlor


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message 20



Visit the website for specific questions & more info: http://www.uktvdirect.com i am not turning this into a heated debate that goes on for pages and pages like the last one



JUST BEEN,AND TO BE HONEST,IT TELLS ME NOTHING, HOW MUCH PER YEAR IF WE HAVE ALREADY GOT THE EQUIPMENT YOU SAY WE NEED?

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Sounds like a load of old tosh to me - my Nan could design a better website than that!!!



cyprusunited


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6ms certainly knows the huge price difference between a 1.5m,or even a 1.8m,and a 4.2m dish.



beanbag


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could we please all have a look at a website your Nan has made then please?



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Hi, just joined today. I live on the dark side. I have lived here for 6 years and hate it so I thought I would have a look and see if the north is any better(probably is if there are not many greeks there lol

anyway, found this subject very interesting as over the years we have been ripped off with trying to get uk tv and I think this is a scam......

If you give this guy your dosh and it goes off how do you get your money back? not...

If its anything like here where expats are quite happy to take your cash for nothing. Anyone can set up a website, offer something you know people are desperate for, get all the orders in and of course you will not be allowed to pay monthly, then poooof, gone in a puff of smoke.

sorry that my first post is a long negative one but that has come from living on the dark side so long, so desperate to get out....



james1970


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"could we please all have a look at a website your Nan has made then please? "



http://www.my-nan.com/



Ref MSG 6

"I just emailed him and he emailed me back straight away give the guy a chance before you have a go."

I emailed him 2/3 hours ago the same (and a few more) questions that I posted on here but so far nothing.



cyprusunited


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Youīre not expecting him to be in front of the PC for 24 hours a day!

Just wait a bit and if you asked technical questions he will reply.



uktvdirect


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Replies have been sent to all 27 information requests we have received so far today (Not all from N.C)



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I'm pretty sure that most people will be happy with a 1.8m and ITV/ C4 family/ Fives/ BBC Radios 1-4/ BBC Interactive ( f1 GP)



Who knows even the Beeb will be upping their signal ( like ITV / C4) have, too !!



No need for a sub/ up front payment and knowing it isn't going to be turned off - any old sky box will do.. no need to buy a specialist Sat HD receiver that will be a much use as a chocolate teapot in Cyprus WHEN this service folds..



*I* know .. ;)



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"Replies have been sent to all 27 information requests we have received so far today (Not all from N.C) "



i sent a mail to "support" at 1230ish.....

have sent another just now to both "support" and "info"



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What you leave out of your little expert (or so called) above post is that there is no guarentee that the ITV1 (regions), CH4 & CH4+1(Ire) & the FIVES that all require a SKY freesat card to open them up or a SKY subscription card if you want E4 & More 4 and as proved by the Southern regional FIVE can be moved at anytime to a weaker TP which would also make the installed 1.8m dish & sky box a very expensive purchase just for the BBC interactive streams, Radio, News and a few other crappy channels.



You forget that most people want BBC1,2,3,4, ITV1,2,3,4, CH4, FIVE everything else is much less important and only a nice bonus for people who have the main channels.



If someone paid out for a 1.8m dish & SKY receiver and the TP altered for the regional ITV's, CH4 & FIVE people be left with a large dish & BLACK SCREEN.



Pro's and Con's for both systems but you cannot compare a 1,8m sky system to UKTV DIRECT as the only true comparison channel wise would be a 4m dish !



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Ask "UK TV Direct" why there is no contact tel number - land line and no Registered address



Ask if you can pay via credit card - MONTHLY ;)



uktvdirect


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Not responding to me then mmmmmm as you know i am right just as much risk if not more with a 1.8m dish as our system and a lot less channels.



If one of your installer friends on N.C installed a 1.8m or a 4m system for that matter and the BEEB & ITV moved onto weaker TP's and their channels could not be received in N.C anymore via a SKY / Large dish set up would your installer friends give all the customers who have paid out 1,000's a refund ?



I think not



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re 36 Ah, so you DO respond to SOME techhie Q's ?!



>>cannot compare a 1,8m sky system to UKTV DIRECT <<



Why not ? will you be offering to take payment via Credit card, and monthly - so that in the "unlikely" event of "UK TV Directs" demise they can get some of their hard earned dosh back? If someone pays out in one year what you want, they can have a HECK of a lot more channels than you offer - SKY sports, Movies ,Discovery , Animal Planet, MTV..AND they can have REAL HD..



ITV and C4 have "turned up the wick" - and I hope BBC will do the same too,soon - I think you can work out what they are up to... your biz model relies on



1/ non availability of the channels



and / or



2/ being cheaper



IF C4/ ITV / Five for FREE disappear from the legit option, and you are still around THEN you have a USP ..



I am CERTAIN that I know who will be looking at a blue screen - and it won't be folk using a legit system...



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Ask "UK TV Direct" why there is no contact tel number - land line and no Registered address



We are agents and sell to local installers who have telephone numbers, Addresses etc etc



Ask if you can pay via credit card - MONTHLY ;)



You would have to ask your installer we do not deal with payments



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ITV and C4 have "turned up the wick" - and I hope BBC will do the same too,soon - I think you can work out what they are up to... your biz model relies on



I thought you were an expert ? they had to move them due to a TP failure & another one may well cause them to move yet again to a weaker position as you well know.



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still waiting for my response?



If one of your recommended satellite TV installers put a system in for a customer and the main channels went off due to been moved to a weaker TP 2 months later would they refund the customer ?



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Iīll answer to that:

No.

Installers offer a guarantee on the technical part,like checking the dish if it has moved for any reason.

But no guarantee on channels being received.



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I received a reply 20 minutes.



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reply to mr. many m's.



i see from your previous posts that you are truly a satellite god. so who am i, but a simply mortal to disagree with you.

but it appears from that interest in this topic both on this board and on others that contrary to what you say people are clearly not happy with a 1.8m dish and the array of channels you have listed.



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reply to mr. many m's



Ask "UK TV Direct" why there is no contact tel number - land line and no Registered address

wow, you truly are a satellite god. why don't you ask?



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reply to uktvdirect.



you are quite correct there mr. uktvdirect.



i lived in Spain about 5 years ago and we could receive the BEEB very nicely thank u on a 65 cm dish.

then one morning all gone. BEEB had moved to astra 2d and all of a sudden a 2.4m dish was needed.

and do you really think that the installers who had installed a 65cm dish for €150 were going to pop round with a 2.4m dish costing €1500 and swop it free of charge. "dream on"



so the moral is if you are not supposed to be receiving it, you can't complain if you suddenly can't.

so it does not matter whether you are receiving your signals from mr. uktvdirect or from mr. many m's

system the risks are the same



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wow.uktvdirect has got a new AKA beanbag



im sure he has schizophrenia, he seems to be answering his own posts!



cyp44 is becoming a great source of entertainment



wheres DC !



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UKTV DIRECT - All the main UK channels direct from the satellite on a small dish (BBC1,2,3,4, ITV1,2,3,4, CH4, E4, MORE4, Film4, FIVE, Fox Movies, Fox Series ).



on a small dish



what size of dish?



would it be big enough for mrs monger to eat off?



beanbag


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hello mr.qwyqwy.

i have not been answering my own post. it is because i only registered today my posts were not posted on the forum as i posted them, but only after the moderator had oked them, so they all go together.

seems strange and also english is not my first language so i apologise if my english is not to good.

do you speak Finnish? mr. qwyqwy



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Iīd like to ask a few things to uktvdirect:

How long has the company leased the transponder for?

As this is broadcasting since a few months now,has the company received any complaints by the uk broadcasters so far?



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3 year lease, no complaints to-date but some rebroadcasters in Spain have been broadcasting the BBC etc channels for 20 years and have still not had an official complaint so no suprises there.



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Msg 48- from what I've heard [according to NN], any dish that Mrs Monger would eat off is probably very large. Jodrell Bank springs to mind.



6xM doesn't have an axe to grind- much as I don't agree with his [generally] pro GC viewpoint, I have suspect his views on this subject are likely to be VERY technically correct.



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Message 49



uktvdirect,ooops i mean beanbag



i think qewqewe is a woman not a MR?



you still havent answerd the question of how much per month or per year if we have out own equipment, oh same question to uktv3rdparty



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Am I the only one to see that "Uk Tv Direct" CyprusUnited ( "from Paphos!") and "Beanbag" have only contributed n this thread ))) ?



"CyprusUnited"... I'm still hoping you might answer some of the Q's I put to you in the last thread..?



ANYONE can lease a bird for three years.. the deposit / guarantee only overs the first few months... if you can't pay up front you are disconnected....



As "Uk TV Direct" has told us - "you pay the installer" .. who will pay " UK tv Direct"... and in a few months folks will be nodding sagely and saying .. he did warn us....



"BeanBag"



You forgot to mention that the GOOD installers KNEW that BBC/ ITV were moving to Astra 2 D and told their clients...



"UK TV Direct" >>I thought you were an expert ? they had to move them due to a TP failure & another one may well cause them to move yet again to a weaker position as you well know.<<



REALLY? . The "new" C4 family channels and ITV's have been there ages.. just now more powerful;)





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6ms donīt start playing ok?If you put your nice face on the avatar it doesnīt mean everyone has to.



You 6ms think people easily forget,but i remember since last thread more than a month ago you said this system would have been shut down in a few days by a simple complaint from the bbc to the satellite operator Intelsat.

This clearly hasnīt happened and you should admit to be wrong on this point.

I want to understand why this system is allowed to continue without having permission from the broadcasters.



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oops. now i am really confused, mr. qewqew is really mrs. qewqew

and i beanbag am really uktvdirect.

i have had a really nice first day on the forum.



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I have declared that I will not hear (or see!) another bad word about Marky.



I have declared my undying love for him and wish to have his babies



Now, Marky has got nothing to gain from his posts. UKTV HAS.



Marky has given invaluable help and advise. And all for FREE!



The answers to questions posed to UKTV have resulted in, at best, weak answers.



If I wanted to discover anything about UKTV, I could pretend I wanted to be an installer for him. Hey presto, I would discover HIS details, the name of the registered company, all their details, etc. Then post them here.



I can appreciate he does not want to put all his details here, as anyone could then compete with him, by becoming an agent, unless of course, he has "sole rights".



Regards



Marky's best friend. (You know where my loyalties are).



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mmmmmm - You keep talking about risk and losing money but have still not answered my question (3rd request)



"If one of your recommended installers put a 1.8m dish sky system in for a customer and then the main channels were moved to a weaker TP 2 months later leaving them without the channels they wanted when they had it installed would your installer friends REFUND the customers money?"



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Dear "UK TV Direct"

>>You keep talking about risk and losing money but have still not answered my question (3rd request) <<



A bit rich from the guy who had to have ME answer all questions directed to you, before, and you could only "correct" me ;)



Even on this thread the "buck" is passed re payments for the service...The answers given were as crocked as a mountain road.. Legit services accept credit card payments and one can pay online and monthly..



Now to answer your Q: the possibility of a transponder suddenly being unavailable.. a GOOD installer tells his client that they are lucky to receive such FREE signals in CY at all - but I'm quite CERTAIN they aren't going to lose the lot..;)



Are you suggesting SKY are going to request Astra to turn down the power of the satellite and lose 20%+ of clients ? !!!



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uktvdirect,



In a previous post I asked you where we could see an installation in operation and also talk to the customer for a reference. Can you provide us with such a thing?



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Do not try and wriggle out of the question i am only talking about the main channels that people want BBC, ITV, CH4 & FIVE which are not an income generation for SKY so not relevant to their service.



I will answer it for you then if someone has a 1.8m satellite dish & SKY receiver installed this week and the TP is altered by Astra 2 weeks later on request from the broadcaster (not SKY) ITV1, CH4, Five etc and these channels are not receivable anymore and the customer then rings their installer and says "can i have a refund please as the channels i wanted have gone" the installer would say "Sorry but we have no control over the channel content received only the equipment we install so cannot refund any monies but if you want to watch the channels you have lost we can upgrade you to a 4m dish which will be chargable of course"



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Any requsts to view the system working etc via the website please and i will arrange an installer to give a demonstration.



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i would love a demo.



when can he call to see me ?



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re 55 "Carl from Paphos - CyprusUnited



>>6ms donīt start playing ok?<<



1/ You mean like VPNs services in the UK were being "blocked" ? Please tell us the companies so affected ? NONE that I know of...



2/ You mean like telling folk on hear that the pointing out the "dogdy" nature of this service are 4.2m dish installers who will lose business ;) ?



3/ YES.. I said the service will shut down - and leave those paying huge up front payments in the lurch - I STAND by it. Are YOU watching ITV and the C4 family channels stuff for FREE in "Paphos" ?



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I will answer it for you then if someone has a 1.8m satellite dish & SKY receiver installed this week and the TP is altered by Astra 2 weeks later on request from the broadcaster (not SKY) ITV1, CH4, Five etc and these channels are not receivable anymore and the customer then rings their installer and says "can i have a refund please as the channels i wanted have gone" the installer would say "Sorry but we have no control over the channel content received only the equipment we install so cannot refund any monies but if you want to watch the channels you have lost we can upgrade you to a 4m dish which will be chargable of course"



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good morning everybody, i can see another exciting day ahead again on this forum.

i 2 would like to have many m's babies. he is a true satellite god.



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Message 62



demo please!



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Dear "Uk Tv Direct"



re 65



Right now folk living in CY can get ( on a 1.8m - often smaller) BBC interactive ( F1 GP and practise qualifying, "Final Score", major sporting event on BBC, BBC News 24, ITV, C4, Five, Five Life, Five US, SKY News, CNN for FREE...



for under 200 GBP - payable at approx 16/GBP and monthly - they'd get More 4, E4, DAVE, SKY one, Watch ( old UK Gold) and thirty other TV channels



For 58 GBP they could get 25+ REAL HD channels, ( Sports and Movies), 50plus SD channels and the ability to record... very important - as CY is 2 hrs ahead.. and the CERTAINTY that those channels aren't going to "disappear"



The only important missing channel for a "small dish" is BBC1 .. do you REALLY think folk are going to fork out 649 EURO - and with no guarantees - for a pirate TV system from you, when they can get most of it for less or free ?



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oh oh chungo



uktv not so direct



back to you!



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but do they not also get on the uktv BBC1 BBC2, 3 , 4 plus ITV 1, 2 , 3, 4.

can you also receive these channels direct from satellite with a 1.8m dish?



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Dear "Beanbag"



You CAN get ITV 1 ( corrie, X Factor, et al) on a 1.8m in TR / Cyprus - do keep up - and channel Four, and the Five family of channels ALL for FREE...



Did you join here to "help" UK TV " with his "facts"? !



No, one can't..BBC 1,2 etc... but you won't be able to get 'em for long via Intelsat, either.. You CAN get much of the best sporting action and big events via BBC Interactive - using BBC News 24.. Wimbledon tennis matches, Rugby, and all F1 event coverage.



Once again for nought ... zilch .. zippo



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thank u for reply.

no i did not join to help ukdirect, i am just interested to hear both sides of the argument, both for and anti.

i just think from what i have seen posted that both u and ukdirect are both ANTI EACH OTHER.

i am sure there are advantages and disadvantages to both systems and always an element of risk in any system if you are not watching in the country it is intended for.



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if its free,il have it



almost 700 euros!



dick turpin wore a mask!



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6m I donīt know why you are always ironic when referring to Paphos,maybe because itīs in the South?Do you want only people from North Cyprus to write?

Regarding VPNs,dear mister "I know everything",I said some websites are trying to block them,obviously not all VPNs are affected at the moment.

6m if you want to spend a few euros,subscribe to ukivpn.com and then try to enter the tvcatchup.com website.

Then come back here and say again that all VPNs work.



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My darling Marky.



I'm thinking of upgrading from a basic Sky box to HD. I have the HD telly and a 1.8m dish.



Can you provide a link to the previously mentioned 25 HD channels that I may be able to receive.



Also, as I've been with Sky many years and therefore not under any obligation to keep my telephone line connected, do you believe I will have any problems getting a subsidised box? (I have a UK address, and a UK based "Sky-employed installer" who is a mate, but please don't tell Sky).



Many thanks



PC



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msg 20. Don't stop at 11 UKTV (number of replies since you said you'd posted yer last) I've backed you for 15 ripostes at least. Didn't get good odds, but don't let me down. I think many M's is running on empty now, don't give in.

ps get to 20 and the efes are definitely on me.



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Thats because the "M" knows that his 1.8m & SKY box system is no more secure than any other system on offer & he cannot say how long the ITV1, CH4 & FIVE's (sky freesat card required to view) will remain on a stronger TP and he also knows very well that if they moved the above channels to a weaker TP that the installer that fitted it would not refund any of the customers money.



He also knows that most people really want BBC1,2,3,4, ITV1,2,3,4, Five, CH4 etc etc and his method can only deliver anything close to this on a MONSTER 4m+ dish which is extremely expensive and most people do not have the space for.



PS. My Nan is working on the website so check it out as it improves: http://www.uktvdirect.com ;-)



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Uk tv i am still awaiting an email from you its been a couple of days now you were gonna get back to me.



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This is getting boring.

I'm turning over.

Chegs



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send it again we are very busy and it may have been missed in the junk folder



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Dear Beanbag



>>no i did not join to help ukdirect, i am just interested to hear both sides of the argument, both for and anti. <<



OK, it is very interesting how a guy from TR would suddenly appear to join in on just one thread...



>>i just think from what i have seen posted that both u and ukdirect are both ANTI EACH OTHER. <<



No.. I'm anti-piracy and anti seeing folk get fleeced



What is the "element of risk" in a FREE system that provides most of these channels already and is OFFICIAL ? !!



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re 74 "Carl from Paphos" CyprusUnited



>>6m I donīt know why you are always ironic when referring to Paphos,maybe because itīs in the South?Do you want only people from North Cyprus to write? << The irony comes from your appearance on this board and only contributing on one thread..



>>Regarding VPNs,dear mister "I know everything",I said some websites are trying to block them,obviously not all VPNs are affected at the moment. <<



Then you can't be "wise" in your choice of VPN supplier..



>>6m if you want to spend a few euros,subscribe to ukivpn.com and then try to enter the tvcatchup.com website. <<

No thanks, I have my own that works just fine - in L'sol/ Russia / USA/ Canada.......



I DO know about VPNs, too ;)



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NO UKTV System is official or legal outside of the UK !



To say you bull yourself up as an expert you do post some statements "mmmmmm" you are jsut as guilty as anyone else of fleecing people if you encourage them to pay for a 1.8m dish system that may or may not be still working on the main channels that people want in a few weeks, months time.



As you have proven by not responding or answering the questions i asked of you if one of your friendly recommended installers puts a system in on a 1.8m dish & SKY box and the main channels are removed from the stronger TP's they will not get refunded even though they are not receiving the channels they wanted !



You cannot argue with this and know i am right.



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Dear PC



>>'m thinking of upgrading from a basic Sky box to HD. I have the HD telly and a 1.8m dish.

Can you provide a link to the previously mentioned 25 HD channels that I may be able to receive. <<



Nope :( But you will get most SKY HD channels, Nat Geo, Discovery, MTV, Sports / Movies but NOT BBC HD :(



>>Also, as I've been with Sky many years and therefore not under any obligation to keep my telephone line connected, do you believe I will have any problems getting a subsidised box? (I have a UK address, and a UK based "Sky-employed installer" who is a mate, but please don't tell Sky). <<



No .. you can email me - check my profile.. as I know of a good source of reconned HDs with warranties that SKY will connect no probs for existing clients



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I have just been informed that the "mmmmmm" is paid a financial incentive by the installers that he recommends in N.C so he is not quite as transparent or impartial as he makes out and has something to gain from bad mouthing alternative systems.



what a cheek he has acting all innocent and impartial, naughty boy



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yeah but at least he tells us what works and what doesnt , you cant even tell us the cost .



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MSG 83.

Mine is.

Full Sky TV with a Slingbox.

Bonjour.

Chegs

X



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Are you sure he knows his stuff as some of his statements are far from factual he even tried to say today that the ITV1 & CH4 (freesat from sky card required) signals increased to try and compete with our service which is complete fabrication and nonsense.



As i have said the basic cost is on the website and you will incur a slight increase on this due to the increased dish size required for Cyprus but that would need to be discussed with your installer.



Our system has now been working for over 3 months and mmmmmm said it would be closed weeks ago we are still waiting for complaints from the BBC legal team, intelsat & Iredeto which mmmmmm said would be forthcoming, oh what an expert he is.



His knowledge to date is comparable with my Nans website building expertise.



look what she has done now: http://www.uktvdirect.com



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Have you seen this....



http://satandpcguy.com/forum/itv1-1-launches-on-1st-october-t380.html



Apparently ITV1 will be offering a +1 serivice. And it is currently testing on a a south beam - which I understand means reception similar to Sky One or BBC news via the satellite! Of course there no guarantee about how long this will last for. But at least it is another option for ITV on a small dish, and direct from the main satellite!!



PS I had some answers to my questions.

Is this system legally (ie have permission from the channels themselves) using the UK TV signals?

NO - but neither have the 20+ rebroadcasters that are still broadcasting in SPAIN some for 20 years+

What are the monthly / yearly subscription charges?

Year one is included in the installation cost which is between 650€ - 895€ depending on dish size required

How much if I supply my own dish and receiver?

Year 1: 335€ for card, activation & subs, Year 2: 255€



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"Apparently ITV1 will be offering a +1 serivice. And it is currently testing on a a south beam - which I understand means reception similar to Sky One or BBC news via the satellite! Of course there no guarantee about how long this will last for. But at least it is another option for ITV on a small dish, and direct from the main satellite!!"



NO small dish in N.C for this new ITV1+1 i am afraid you will still need a minimum of a 1.8m



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dear mmmmm,

what is a guy from TR ??? can assure you i only have straight sex.



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oh no.



I have just been informed that the "mmmmmm" is paid a financial incentive by the installers that he recommends in N.C so he is not quite as transparent or impartial as he makes out and has something to gain from bad mouthing alternative systems.







what a cheek he has acting all innocent and impartial, naughty boy



you have just shattered my illusion of a true satellite god.



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re 77 "uk tv direct"



>>Thats because the "M" knows that his 1.8m & SKY box system is no more secure than any other system on offer <<



1/ it's not "mine" the sat system is modern - not dying like your bird



2/ "my" system is THE most profitable sat TV platform in the world.. and LEGIT.. it is NOT pirating someone else's content and asking punters to fund their operation with HUGE up front payments ! Tell me, do you think News Corp / BBC will stop before "uk tv direct" ))) ?



3/ Folk out in CY are used to frequency / transponder changes - but as its FREE what's the problem..? IF they want guaranteed BBC / ITV they can share a 4.2m dish.. Remember no subs ... and satellites that don't wander around like drunks in space..!



re 83

>>NO UKTV System is official or legal outside of the UK ! <<

Not clued up on your EU directives, then ? .. If it's broadcast unencrypted - in clear - WHAT can be "illegal" ? Unofficial? Theirs no subs to pay... and it's "official" in the home c



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(cont from 93)



home country.. so it ain't going to be "turned off".



>>As you have proven by not responding or answering the questions i asked of you if one of your friendly recommended installers puts a system in on a 1.8m dish & SKY box and the main channels are removed from the stronger TP's they will not get refunded even though they are not receiving the channels they wanted ! <<



Unlike, you I ALWAYS answer questions.. there's plenty you've ignored upthread and in the last thread !



I have already answered.. a good installer makes it clear there are no guarantees - but as "SKY" make a load of dosh by ex-pat subs we can be reasonably certain they ain't gonna cut off their own noses.. Their are only so many transponders and some will always be receivable in CY..



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Again you are avoiding the main point SKY have nothing to do with the BBC broadcast people are only interested in the majority of the crappy SKY channels as secondary viewing & if its the last resort when nothing else is receivable.



Even their sport content is 2nd fiddle to Showtime.



If people want the SKY channels in HD as you advise they have to pay for the minimum Family package plus a minimum of an extra 9.95 GBP per month which i work out at circa 30 GBP and 16 Euros ish as you quoated earlier.



+ they need to pay for a SKY receiver (standard or HD) and a 1.8m or 4.2m (or a share of one) so its hardly FREE as you keep chirping on about.



It is certainly not currently legal to watch and own a SKY subscription card outside of the UK read the T&C's so you are encouraging people to break the law.



If a SKY subscriber rings sky from N.C and tells them where they are they will be instantly cut off which proves my point.



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edit above should read and NOT the 16 euro's ish as you quoted earlier



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re msg 85



>>I have just been informed that the "mmmmmm" is paid a financial incentive by the installers that he recommends in N.C so he is not quite as transparent or impartial as he makes out and has something to gain from bad mouthing alternative systems. <<



Well "UK Tv Direct" ... I have two BEAUTIFUL daughters and I can SWEAR on their lives that



1/ I receive no payment / reward from ANY installers - I recommend Iceman - simply because I know he will look after clients.. He doesn't buy anything from me, either !!



2/ I think most members can guess why you would *try* to "discredit" me



3/ Do you SERIOUSLY think that I could eek a living from relying on "commissions" in NC..:o ))



No my dear " uk tv direct" you crossed the line of "desperation".. THAT is "cheeky"..



You sir, are a "FIBBER".. You are hiding in obscurity trying to sell a dodgy doomed system via "agents" ...



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do not try and get smart when you are losing an arguement as it just looks desperate.



most people know your game (i have emails from some of them) i have nothing to hide and my intentions are clear but you are sneaky with it and underhanded.



you chose to ignore the points that i post that make your offerings look bad and just pick on the points that you think will distract from the facts.



Anyway this thread is starting to get silly again and going round in circles.



If you want BBC1,2,3,4, ITV1,2,3,4, CH4, MORE4, E4, FIVE + lots more on a small dish contact us for information on how to do it.



If you want limited service on the main FTA UKTV channels and a MASSIVE dish contact mmmmmm and he will recommend an installer that will help top up his holiday spending money fund for him.



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re 68 "uk tv direct"



>>Are you sure he knows his stuff as some of his statements are far from factual he even tried to say today that the ITV1 & CH4 (freesat from sky card required) signals increased to try and compete with our service which is complete fabrication and nonsense. <<



YOU told us that the powerful transponder that is broadcasting ITV/ C4 was because of a "fault" .elsewhere...



It has existed for donkey's ages - transmitting the VERY channels it does now - you just couldn't get it is CY before .. *I* know WHY it is stronger in CY... YOU are very anxious to suggest it will be "temporary"..;)



>>Our system has now been working for over 3 months and mmmmmm said it would be closed weeks ago <<

As you are a middleman - how would you know what correspondence has been exchanged between the broadcasters and the sat broadcaster? !



I recommend ANYONE wanting to subscribe insists on monthly payments or WAITS until they can pay by credit card..



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re msg 81.



dear mmmmm,

you say you are anti piracy, yet you also claim to operate a couple of vpn tunnelling systems for which you charge people. Well surely the catchup services are intended only for the uk and they restrict the service to the uk by identifing your ip address and blocking you if you are outside of the uk.

and your vpn service fools the bbc etc. into thinking your client is in the uk.

i think that is just as much a grey area as is the service from uktvdirect.



i am beginning to think a speak with a forked tongue and tell the truth when it suits you



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As you are a middleman - how would you know what correspondence has been exchanged between the broadcasters and the sat broadcaster? !



You have no idea what my exact role is and what information i have access to and i can assure you that no complaint has been received from anyone todate.



People like you that do not like the competition start rumours to try and discredit businesses without any actual physical tangible information to back them up



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re 95



Do SKY and BBC / ITV / C4 / Five share the same satellites to broadcast from?.. YES.. so does anyone here think SKY / BBC are going to stop broadcasting.. ? ERGO which platform is here to stay..?



Interesting you refer to SKY content is "crappy" .. would THAT be why they have 22 million plus subscribers ?



HD: I pointed out the price .. I said it would cost more than yours.. but in REAL HD.. and recordable..



1.8m dishes in the "rump" RoC are cheap as chips.. there are LOADS left over from the pre 2003 days - the last time BBC / ITV were available on 1.8m ;)



Re SKY .. we ALL know that they can't KNOWINGLY supply outside UK / IRL.. but it is NOT a criminal offence - PIRACY is.. and THAT is why you are "secret squirrel" ..dealing via agents.. no credit cards.. hidden ownership of domains..



How will anyone find you when the lights go out .. ?



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Dear "uk tv direct"



re 98



>>most people know your game (i have emails from some of them) i have nothing to hide and my intentions are clear but you are sneaky with it and underhanded. <<

Please post the emails.. you don't have to reveal your "sources".. we could do with a laugh .. If there is any truth in any of them I'll kop to it... *I* don't hide my ID, name, address, phone number ...



>>you chose to ignore the points that i post that make your offerings look bad and just pick on the points that you think will distract from the facts. <<



You're kidding.. you retired "hurt" from the last thread as you refused to be "straight".. I am NOT offering anything.. I'm saying you can get most of it for FREE.. WHY pay you..? HOW am I making money from THAT.. ?



I can't work out if your biz model is relying on naive agents who will take the crap when you fail and you WILL ..or naive punters .



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sky have 22million subs??????

they only had 7 million last month. must have had a couple of good weeks



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BBC, ITV, CH4 & FIVE have already ruduced their signal many times over the last few years NO one said they were going to stop broadcasting all they need to do is move to a weaker TP a la the regional Southern / midlands FIVE recently and viewers on a 1.8m / 4.2m dish are up the creek as you well know.



You try to make out that its impossible for the BBC etc not to be received in N.C when you know that the possibility is always around the corner and very possible.



Ask anyone on N.C or on this forum what they would rather have as a viewing package out of the following 2 options:



1, BBC1,2,3,4, ITV1,2,3,4, CH4, E4, More4, FIVE



or



2, Sky1,2,3, Discovery, UK Gold, Living, Dave, Virgin



I think i can hazzard a guess at the winning group



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I notice you did not respond to the post about your illegal streaming network & your double standards about piracy



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re 101



>>People like you that do not like the competition start rumours to try and discredit businesses without any actual physical tangible information to back them up<<



STILL trying to make out I have something to lose if you are successful ?!



The FACT is that I don't want to see folk "diddled" ..



If I had no info, HOW come I told everyone about how your service would work - when you refused - AND that the dish sizes you would quoted were WAY off... ? I KNOW ALL about your operation AND the systems you use ;) .. I'm not the one "hiding" my identity whilst asking folk to stump up 650 Euros for stolen content..



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BTW.. Beanbag 104



SKY have nearly 10 million subscribers it is reckoned 22 percent are overseas - my bad



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Where is the uplink for our service ?



What equipment do we have ?



What size dish is required in N.C for a stable reception & strong signal 24/7 ?



Who is the owner ?



What action has been taken against the owner (none but i am sure you can make some up as usual) ?



Why when intelsat asre well aware of the content being broadcast have they not asked us to stop broadcasting it ?



mmmmmm i know the answrs do you ?



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Do you have permission to allow access to paying customers from outside of the UK to the BBC and other on demand services ?



I think we already know the answer to that so do not waste your time with a response, double standards springs to mind !



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I thought you had all the information mmmmmm its taking you a long time to respond !



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re 100 Beanbag





>>you say you are anti piracy, yet you also claim to operate a couple of vpn tunnelling systems for which you charge people. Well surely the catchup services are intended only for the uk and they restrict the service to the uk by identifing your ip address and blocking you if you are outside of the uk. <<



YES, I supply VPN's and have done so for 12 years.. Comms and Networking is one of my "things" .. There is NOTHING illegal about watching BBC / ITV etc using a VPN.. It IS illegal to rebroadcast and CHARGE for their content.. QUITE a different thing...





>>I think that is just as much a grey area as is the service from uktvdirect. <<



Nope, the companies closed down by the Beeb, were rebroadcasting - charging for their content.



>>[you] speak with a forked tongue and tell the truth when it suits <<

Funny, that.. WHY would I often say it is better to watch TV via Sat compared to internet ..on this VERY board? I DO NOT depend on "TV" VPN biz to live, ei



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still waiting M the expert ?



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Why has the Film oN streaming service not been closed down then that shows live content from the BBC, ITV, FIVE etv then ?



Do your homework mmmmmm you slip up all the time



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"1, BBC1,2,3,4, ITV1,2,3,4, CH4, E4, More4, FIVE

or

2, Sky1,2,3, Discovery, UK Gold, Living, Dave, Virgin "

Personally i would forgo all the channels mentioned apart from Dave and Discovery!





"Why when intelsat asre well aware of the content being broadcast have they not asked us to stop broadcasting it ?"

I would really like to know the answer to that question please...either mmmmmm or Charles..



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mmmmmm has all the answers lets wait and see what response he comes up with this time i will find it very interesting



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Nope, the companies closed down by the Beeb, were rebroadcasting - charging for their content



Wrong again - I think you will find that the Streaming companies that were closed down were closed for streaming SPORT & other premium content nothing to do with the BBC.



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UKTV

I am intregued.

Why can Filmon legally stream BBC channels around Europe, but the BBC cannot?



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re 106 ..

>>I notice you did not respond to the post about your illegal streaming network & your double standards about piracy<<



That's because I just had a lovely family meal ;)



re 109



I know all about your service because it is my biz to know .. I told you what size dish you would need a month and a half ago - from Paphos to Ayia Napa - when you were refusing to reveal anything... the punters on here do remember, you know.. YOU told them a FIB.. or demonstrated you did not know your own birds capabilities.. which was it ?!



You doubted my knowledge of one of your suppliers ( Irdeto ) until I showed you the photos of a nice trip I had on them in Istanbul..



I'm well aware of the Intelsat Ts and Cs and if you are just an "agent" you won't know them or have seen such a contract..



Those in the biz of broadcast know ALL about your operation - YOU don't want to answer my questions about WHY you are so secretive about your identity - potential punters aren't daft..



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As the rightful owners of the copyright, the BBC are missing out on a lot of potential advertising (as it does on its internation channels and websites) and let it all go to a thrid party, who is effectivly stealing the BBC channels for their own distribution?



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not answered the questions i asked so i take it from that you do not know the answers.



At least be man enough to admit it for once.



Yes i initialy got the dish size wrong but after extensive testing in the North & South we now know.



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6m:

Is the email address on http://members.lycos.co.uk/markmarkcy/ still working if I want to contact you for some Sat TV advice for the area?

Or was that just a joke email?



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Why can Filmon legally stream BBC channels around Europe, but the BBC cannot?



Very good question ask mmmmmm as he allows access to content from the BBC etc as well outside of the UK without permission



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"Why can Filmon legally stream BBC channels around Europe, but the BBC cannot?



Very good question ask mmmmmm"

I was asking you as you seem to know more about it?

And I was hoping for a sensible answer and not another fob off to a serious question.

Unless you want me to ask it via your email?



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I am not an expert on TV via the internet and any legal loopholes that may are able to used to get round the access from outside of the UK issue.



mmmmmm runs a VPN style service so is the best person to ask



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"I am not an expert on TV via the internet and any legal loopholes that may are able to used to get round the access from outside of the UK issue. "

Apologies. I thought you had posted it in a sarcastic manner, and that you really did know the answer.



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Dear James1970 re 115



Welcome to the board...



You've just joined - like BeanBag, and Cyprus United and have appeared from "nowhere" hiding your id and are only interested in UKTVDIRECT ?! .. hmmm - WHY am I thinking you might all have some "interest" in "uk tv direct" ?



"Why when intelsat asre well aware of the content being broadcast have they not asked us to stop broadcasting it" .. Indeed.. that will probably be the "achilles heal" for "uk tv direct" Intelsat have a fat guarantee they won't care if they have to pull the plug.



re msg 117

"I think you will find that the Streaming companies that were closed down were closed for streaming SPORT & other premium content nothing to do with the BBC."



You should ask the ripped off clients of such services.. THEY know I'm correct and NOT to pay annual fees for dodgy services :(



It took several court actions and two years to close down the early re-broadcasters .. I fortold tears about such companies then, too !



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This topic is going round and round in circles and is just turning into a silly school yard style battle.



Everyone knows mmmmmm's veiwpoint and mine by now so its time to put this thread to bed.



If anyone want's sensible information and contact details for installers contact us via the website and we will reply as soon as possible but we are very busy so be patient.



http://www.uktvdirect.com



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Dear "uktvabroad" / James1970



Filmon aren't " *legally* streaming BBC channels around Europe.. any more than "UK tv Direct" are..



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It took several court actions and two years to close down the early re-broadcasters .. I fortold tears about such companies then, too !



NO rebroadcasters have been closed down for broadcasting the BBC and other FTA channels do your homework on the Spanish forums and you will clearly see it was for Premium paid content from SKy etc and Tax evasion.



anyway enoughs enough circular debate with no end.



goodnight all



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Dear" UK TV Direct"



If you are SOoo busy .. how come you have time to tell fibs about me?



I note you haven't retracted your lie.. concerning my interests in "NC" installers.. nor posted the contents of the emails "claiming" such business interests...



You would do better to be a little more professional and offer monthly payment plans, telephone contact tel numbers and not "hiding".... you are asking folk to pay REAL money...



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6m

my email will be in my profile for the next few minutes....

please contact me using it



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re msg 131 "uk tv direct"



*I* don't rely on forums to know the precise details of legal actions and their outcomes. THAT would be folly..



Good night..



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For God's sake can somebody close down this thread . It is so utterly boring



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round and round we go.



As soon as you are proved wrong you repeat a previous statement that distracts from your lack of real knowledge about rebroadcasting in general.



What part of - enoughs enough circular debate with no end did you not grasp.



Goodnight



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re msg 132 James1970



If you don't mind.. I'm off to be a family man.. You can write to my email address.. it is always on my profile.. Goodnight



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"If you don't mind.. I'm off to be a family man.. You can write to my email address.. it is always on my profile.. "



And how many posts do i need before i get to see that?



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Only 50, so start that speed typing



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rep to msg 129



so mr. mmmmmmmms what you are saying is that u with your vpn services are also aiding people to watch streamed bbc content illegily (or at least helping people to commit copyright theft) and charging them for the privilege of doing so. (at least until recently film on did not charge for their service)



wow mr. many m's seems you are a bit of a pirate after all. u naughty boy.



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I love these threads.



Good quality verbal sparring.



I cannot be alone in my belief that Marky is ONLY trying to warn potential customers that they may lose money. Everyone has heard, or been at the receiving end of a similar scam.



How many customers paid a year in advance for something? eXtend, Digiturk, etc. I did not. I pay/paid monthly. When I complained, or threatened to go elsewhere, I received a refund. Many friends complained about exactly the same problem, but were ignored. My belief is, it's simply because they had paid up front. Maybe over the years, I paid more, but I always got satisfaction.



So, that's my humble opinion, does anyone agree?



UKTV, a question, give us your contact details, list your installers, charge what you like for dishes/installation, etc, but monthly for the subscription. If it works, as you believe it does, you will have so many customers, you will make enough in the medium to long term. Forget the quick buck.



Regards



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UKTV, a question, give us your contact details, list your installers



http://www.uktvdirect.com



Use the contact details on the website and email your name, contact numbers and address and we will supply you with the local installers details.



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Dear James1970 re 122/ 137



Sorry, I didn't remember that new members can't see those things.. you can write to:



cy44@uktvabroad.com



The website at



http://members.lycos.co.uk/markmarkcy/ is a copy of another "agents" site I put up as it had "disappeared" .. I found a cached version..



re 140



Mr "Beanbag" it is QUITE clear you joined this forum to TRY to give "UK TV Direct" some much needed help..



viz >>wow mr. many m's seems you are a bit of a pirate after all. u naughty boy.<<



Oh, I'm "sorry" PLEASE tell me how selling VPNs is "piracy".. I must be "CRAZY" posting my contact details everywhere and even my photos..



Perhaps you could tell us whether rebroadcasting of copyright and charging for is Piracy.



You KNOW the answer is YES.... and THAT is WHY "uktvdirect" are "Trappist" re a contact address and phone numbers.. Come on WHO is going to stump up 650 Euros to a startup company that "hides" and says go via an agent..



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Good Morning "uk tv direct"



It seems our conversations are drawing interest from afar.. It seems your service is available for "free", too...



http://satandpcguy.com/forum/uktvdirect-from-satellites-on-a-small-60cm-dish-yeah-right-t347.html#p883



These pirates... imagine the gall of 'em.. hacking your "legit" system ..



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yes imagine just like the gall of you haking into the BBC streaming service for customers outside the UK who are not supposed to watch it or be charged to access it.



Pot calling the kettle black springs to mind.



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message 143 great find many m's

pinkchilli fully agree



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free??? so the satpcguy says.

yes i have looked around and its free providing you have a 400euro + linux hd receiver and good internet connection and pay the 15euros per months that the cs site is charging.

nothing is ever free.



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Mr m's. is anyone who disagrees with u branded "an enemy of the state" ?



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WHY HAS THREAD NOT BEEN CLOSED ITS GONE THE SAME WAY AS THE LAST ONE JUST A SLANGING MATCH AND SERVING NO USEFUL OUT COME



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if your not interested in the thread, don't view it.

obviously many other people are interested, looking at the number of views, even if only for a good wind up.



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I agree time to call a close to the nonsense this has turned into



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Dear "Mr Beanbag" re msg 146 / 7



IRDETO as a means of "protecting content" is a bit of a joke at the moment .. the fact remains that the pirates are hacked... )))



"nothing is ever free" .. Not so .. "uk tv direct" aren't paying a penny for any of the channels they are rebroadcasting without permission .. They just asking punters to pay.. nice "easy money", huh ?



>>s anyone who disagrees with u branded "an enemy of the state" ?<<



Which "state" ?;) . Do you have ANY idea how much of a hot potato THAT Q is..?!



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eeeee by gum.





vodka redbull for me please,with a pint of gold fassal chaser!



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Certainly sir.. will you be requiring REAL Vodka or pure meths ;)



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I would have thought that uktvdirect are paying intelsat quite a lot of money for the lease of the satellite tx.

to say nothing of the upload/download equipment



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Mr "Beanbag"..



>>I would have thought that uktvdirect are paying intelsat quite a lot of money for the lease of the satellite tx. <<



That's like saying you pay a lot to tax / insure and fill the tank of a car after you nicked it - got it for nought ... and hire it out for money..



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You are wasting your time getting into a fight with the "mmmmm" he is obviously jealous and upset that he has missed out on this opportunity for himself and is a very bitter and twisted man, maybe i should offer him a agents position for UKTV DIRECT in Siberia ?



You can tell the sort of person he is by his posts "national health glasses & a briefcase at primary school, got picked on a lot for being a tefal head and finds it hard to talk to the opposite sex hence the younger foreign internet bride"



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Dear "Uk tv direct"



re msg 156



>> [he] finds it hard to talk to the opposite sex hence the younger foreign internet bride <<



THANK YOU .. I knew you would make it "personal" in the end.. ..



There are SO many folk on here who don't agree with my viewpoints on CY, but they will think a lot less of you now... !



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Do you want the Siberia agents position ?



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THANK YOU .. I knew you would make it "personal" in the end



wasn't being personal just making an observation based on your posts.



I think it also very strange that a married man would want to make photos available of his bride in seductive positions on the internet.



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Message 153



only a bottle of your best russia vodka will do 6m,s



message 156. OMG



seems like the tone of the thread is being lowerd towards personal insults now,tutututut uktv not so direct, hey 6m,s ,i think uktv not so direct has been having a real good shuffle through your photos?



taxi for juan kerrr!



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Message 159 I think it also very strange that a married man would want to make photos available of his bride in seductive positions on the internet





if youve got it .flaunt it, as they say!



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wow, now your talking



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Very Funny !



But mmmmm's not my cup of T, i swing the other way.



Making photo's available on a general internet site for all to see that should be kept for family and private personal viewing, maybe you should put an access password on it.



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which other way ?



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Not yours that's for sure



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Message 165





you are the weakest link!









Good bye



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Dear "uk tv abroad"



Thank you for the kind offer of an agency.. but the market for UK TV via a satellite whose footprint doesn't REACH is somewhat "limited" ... very droll..



The photos are all rated by flickr as suitable for public viewing.. no passwords as Grandma in Russia / and UK can't get on with them ... BTW *I* can see who views what..



Can only think ( again) that you must have a LOT of time on your hands... .. I thought you were very busy with customer enquiries !!!



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This is more my style:



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/2007_swimsuit/models/bar_refaeli/07_bar_refaeli_1.html



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message 168



maybe its more your style



but this is our style



http://www.fsc.gi/consumer/fraud.htm





ive got my eye on you!



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Should i be worried - maybe you swing in the wrong direction if you have your eye on me



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UKTV NOT SO DIRECT



hows your advertising going on the bulgarian forums





http://community.justlanded.com/en/Bulgaria/forum/NEW---UKTV-DIRECT--



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Public profile

Name:Charles TurnerAge:43 yearsNationality:BritishCommunities:Bulgaria, Croatia, Greece, SpainLiving in:London (United Kingdom)Languages I speak:EnglishLooking for:Business contactsProfessional

Profession:Satellite TV Equipment SupplierField of work:UKTVCompany/Institution:UKTV DIRECT EUROPEWebsite: http://www.uktvdirect.comPosition:sales



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Do you people not realise the more you continue to post and whatever the content is good or bad the more free advertising we get.



thankyou "mmmmm" and now also "zero"



keep feeding the free plugs its saves a lot of effort



maybe you could be so kind as to add: http://www.uktvdirect.com to the bottom of all your posts



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bloody hell



how many forums are you in.croatia aswell



http://community.justlanded.com/en/Croatia/forum/UKTV-SMALL-DISH-3



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bloody hell charles



your even on the greece forum





http://community.justlanded.com/en/Greece/forum/UKTV-SMALL-DISH





you do realise now,6ms might also be talking to you in these forums!!



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Thanks for posting the links now anyone from those countries that stumbles accross this forum will be able to find their own home forum easily



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The uktv link i am afraid does not work -at least on my extend



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http://www.uktvdirect.com cut and paste into your browser or click it it works



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Re msg 175



>>you do realise now,6ms might also be talking to you in these forums!! <<



My Wife and I have already "welcomed" him..



Not ONE reply on either of those forums.. do you think the punters realised that they can get UK TV [REALLY] direct via SKY/ Astra without paying a subscription.... ? ;)



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Just been reading through the two debates and found them very amusing.

mmmmmm is obviously a very knowledgeable person in the satellite field and has brought many good points to the discussion - but have to take exception with him saying...Who knows even the Beeb will be upping their signal ( like ITV / C4) have, too !!

The beeb cannot up their signal. SES Astra may be able to but not the beeb ITV or CH4.



UKTVDIRECT did point out that these changes were due to transponder issues but mmmmmm continues on regardless with

ITV and C4 have "turned up the wick" - and I hope BBC will do the same too,soon - I think you can work out what they are up to... I would say mmmmmm knows this to be a little lie!!!!!!!!!

The truth is as UKTVDIRECT has said they moved the channels from one satellite to another. The result for you in the East of Europe is an increased signal level for said channels. For us in the South West (the Canaries) we lost these channels totally for all except those with 3



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Meter dish. and even with a 3Meter dish these exact channels cannot be seen.



This does show how fragile even services from sky - astra can be.



I do think mmmmmm is correct about the legality of the system and of course it could be switched off at any time but so can any other channel.



UKTVDirect - If you allow people to pay monthly then you will sell loads cause they can stop paying when If it gets closed down. If you dont go down this route then people will be too scared.



By the way I have seen the system working - quality is medium to high and have seen no problems yet with signal issues due to an inclined orbit.



Good luck to you and I hope your product lasts a long time but monthly payments is the only future.



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Dear BlueTrigger



Thanks for joining in and trying being helpful.. But, I wonder how YOU "found" us.. ?!



However, I must INSIST that you you AND "uk tv direct" are mistaken..



12402 V had been showing ITV regions in scrambled mode for a LONG time.. on the SAME transponder on 2B



OK, YES, BBC have to request changes of SES/Astra, but we are "splitting hairs".. I think you knew what I meant..



I would also think you know that BBC have been moving News 24, Radios 1 and 3 and the interactive signals to the more powerful transponders progressively over the last 18 months..



Glad to "entertain" !



PS Watch out for more better BBC signals in the east, soon ;)



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Dear Blue Trigger

re 181



I have run extensive trials on "uk tv directs" bird in Cyprus - the inclination is a MAJOR issue - CY is on the fringe of coverage... The signal varies quite drasticaly the first south and east one goes on the island.." uk tv direct" has been upping his dish size estimates ( now up 300%) since his first "advert".



Glad you have suggested monthly payments.. this is THE reason ( let alone the piracy issue) the project will fail on..



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Look around on many forums they have been moved.



We loose ITV, CH4, Blighty, E4 and others and get channel 998 (the welcome channel on sky platform) sky sports for pubs 4music etc in return. These channels we are getting in return are dispensable and in the case of Sky sports for pubs can be covered elsewhere if necessary.



If this is not true then tell me why we have totally lost 12402V here in the Canaries



Please - You cannot know all you do and still believe that THEY can turn a magic knob and increase signal on some channels.



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I found you thru a link on another site discussing the same thing.



Iīll keep an eye on the Inclined bit, it could just be on a middle orbit at moment and get worse over time till it comes back to middle.



Cheers



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12402 V had been showing ITV regions in scrambled mode for a LONG time.. on the SAME transponder on 2B



I did not say that the ITV regional channels (freesat from sky card required to open them) were not on this TP number they have been there for ages.



I said the recent increase in signal performance / loss in certain areas on these channels was down to a TP error and a correction was made that increased the signal in some areas and decreased it in others, what i did say is this may not be a long term change and could easily change to a weaker signal again soon.



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hi triggs and welcome to the discussion. may i ask where u saw the uktvdirect system working?



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Hi Triggs ! re 184



I accept that the beam has moved.... which suits the EAST better. THANK YOU



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BlueTrigger I also welcome you to the forum.

I find 6ms is being more friendly with you than he did with me,so I take people from the Canaries are ok for him and he doesnīt like Paphos...

He thinks nobody can find this forum if doesnīt come from North Cyprus,donīt know why..

Your analysis BlueTrigger is perfect.



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UKTV I sent you an email last week asking to see the system setup here in North Cyprus. You sent me an email back telling me you will be contacting people who have had the system installed and then get back to me. If you want to sell your system stop f**king about on this forum and reply to peoples emails. Once we have seen and tested it we can them recommend it. SO please reply to my email which you acknowledge because the way its going I think you are doing yourself more harm than good.



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UKTVDIRECT I have a question for you:

There is a person called Steve who claims to be authorised to sell cards for the satellite service in Cyprus.

Do you know him or does he work with you?



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We have had 100's of email's and will get to them asap in order of receipt, please be patient using swear words does not bump you to the top of our list we like good manners.



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I cannot confirm its the same one but we have an installer based in Cyprus (not N.C) called Steve.



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At the end of the day if you all really miss bbc, itv, ch4 etc bullshits then HELLO!! get a life.....

Sad sad people.



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Thanks uktvdirect,but is he authorized to sell cards?

And what city is he based in?



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All our installers can sell our cards & receivers I think he is somewhere near you but will have to double check to be 100%



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Thanks uktvdirect,can you check and confirm the city he is in.



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yes but it may not be until Monday is that OK ?



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Get a life.... uktv and... cyprusunited.....



uktv read msg 20........... You have made your point so if people want your srevice then they know how to reach you...... ok?



Good bye and good night!!!!!!!!!!



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What Tv system do you have tootie fruity ?



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Im a Dopi muppet china.....lol

But am a 75% happy dopi muppet.... told em i pay monthly or thay can do one!!!!



Tootie



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Thanks uktvdirect,can you check and confirm the city he is in.



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will do when the aftercare & distribution manager is back from holidays on Monday



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on holidays?

your new company is starting up and people already get holidays?



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yep lucky for some



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Dear Cyprus United



re msg 189



>>I find 6ms is being more friendly with you than he did with me,so I take people from the Canaries are ok for him and he doesnīt like Paphos... <<



Funnily enough, I don't like Paphos.. but if you detected any possible respect to you, it is because you want to sell on behalf of the pirates..



>>He [mmmmmm] thinks nobody can find this forum if doesnīt come from North Cyprus,donīt know why.. <<



NO.. I'm saying I find it "strange" that you joined this board and have only contributed re "uk tv direct".. I'm quite SURE your handle is telling us something ;)



re msg 193



Steve is likely to be based in Larnaca..



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Dear Ataturk



re msg 190



Don't take in personally, I have had several off board contacts - who normally would cross the street to avoid me !- report that "uk tv direct" hasn't come back to them - yet - either.. I suspect no-one HAS his system...



Alex, our engineer in Lima(s)sol - a Russian - watches it without paying - Russians don't like to pay and "hacked" the system weeks ago. His wife is learning English and is TOTALLY confused by East Enders..



One of the outlets - where folk get dodgy pay tv for nought - can already supply a receiver to watch "uk tv directs" service for FREE ...:o



All we need now if for "Charles" to come back and tell us they aren't "authorised" and "we will sue", and I can die a happy man ))



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well that was a pointless exercise then wasn't it.

why has he gone to the trouble of hacking the system and why is his wife bothering to learn english and watch eastenders, because the satellite god, mr. many m's told everyone on this forum that it was going to be shut down weeks ago.

oh dear is it still working then mr m's?

what is your next prediction - cyprus to win the world cup



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The main point mmmmmm keeps missing when he says and get it for free is you still need a dish installation, a more expensive ethernet HD receiver " a very good internet connection" and would be plagued by the normal card sharing freezing etc so its hardly free or a perfect solution.



He also forgets to mention that many other systems can be watched this way showtime etc, etc but you still need the equipment, installation and most of the companies offering the service charge to access the channels.



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I wouldnīt expect 6m to admit the service is working..

Anyway nice to notice itīs you 6m who have friendship with pirates who hack systems,and then come here to do the moralist!

Maybe you are using those illegal systems yourself because you feel safe by North Cyprus not being considered in the EU



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yep, said all along Mr. squeeky clean many m's is a man with two faces.

bit of a pirate, charges people to commit copyright theft with his dodgy ip tunnelling system and now openly admit to having a russian engineer who hacks tv systems.

oh dear me what next.



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And another thing 6m: what game are you in now?

Do you advise people not to get a system because there are hackers around?

So do you tell your friends "donīt buy a Nova Cyprus official subscription because with dodgy systems you can get it"?



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Dear Beanbag



re 208



As you aren't keeping up with things.. we have a fixed 1.8m dish pointed at the bird where "uk tv direct" broadcast from... We tested this service out for a Russian Lang service - using the same transponder .. I was against using the bird - for the VERY reasons I have quoted on these threads - hence I KNOW... OK ?!!!!



So, how is it "trouble" to connect up ... ? Try doing a little simple reading of threads, first..



re 209

"uk tv direct"



Especially in the "rump" RoC - showing your poor local knowledge again - FAST internet is NOT an issue.. and it is a veritable hot bed of eastern Europeans, Ukrainians and Russians who sell VERY cheap kit to open IRDETO.



1.8m dishes can be obtained for less than 100 Euros secondhand - due to the hangover from the move to 2D back in 2003....



Of course now ITV, the channels C4s, and Fives, plus BBC interactive can be found for FREE ( on the legit British system) .... ALL pirated system are looking a bit "si



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( cont ) from 213



are looking a bit "sick" .. pointless, even.



re msg 211

Bean Bag.. not for the first time you have referred to me as a "pirate".. Be QUITE sure that IF I find out who you are.. you WILL regret that remark ( this is NOT a threat .. it is a promise.. I will hurt your pocket and your reputation... either apologise or be sure of your facts...!



I was until recently on an anti-piracy committee and any hacking we do is done with the knowledge of the company and reported.... I have been on Irdeto's case re the weaknesses for some time..



"uk tv direct" already made the mistake of doubting my creds to discuss piracy..



Lastly, I would like to see and even INVITE "Uk tv Direct" to "sue" us for pirating for what isn't theirs to charge for.. it will make a great case.. They have my email address, and this submission in open forum - unlike them or YOU.. I'm not "hiding"... and making claims I wouldn't be prepared to defend...



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re 212



"Cyprusunited - Carl from Paphos"



>>And another thing 6m: what game are you in now? <<



Suggest you READ the threads..



>>Do you advise people not to get a system because there are hackers around? <<



Duh... NO I advise ppl not to pay for what is free, anyway - I'm advising "Charles" that his system is "hacked" and he is welcome to "sue" me for announcing the fact...



>>So do you tell your friends "donīt buy a Nova Cyprus official subscription because with dodgy systems you can get it"?<<

NO.that's piracy.The only "official" subscription TV in Cyprus is Nova/ Digiturk/ Primtel/Mivision from Cyta.. one can subscribe to Showtime Arabia, SKY / Nova Greece, etc.. they aren't supposed to supply you - as CY is not an area they have paid the rights for, but as long as the address is registered in an area that IS - and you don't tell ' em - they aren't going to mind.. you AREN'T "cheating" them - nor is it a criminal offence.



I think you knew this..but just in case



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"Bean Bag.. not for the first time you have referred to me as a "pirate".. Be QUITE sure that IF I find out who you are.. you WILL regret that remark ( this is NOT a threat .. it is a promise.. I will hurt your pocket and your reputation... either apologise or be sure of your facts...!"



The toys are out of the pram now :-(



Be careful he may force you to come to dinner with him and his wife and eat cabbage stew as a punishment.



To say you act as if you are above everyone and all powerfull your behaviour on here sometimes turns very childlike and stroppy, not the behaviour we would expect from someone of your obvious intelligence and breeding



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By the way please can you let me know who will do a fully installed 1.8m dish for a 100€ on the island what a bargain, name and contact number please ?



Also i do not think your Russian friends can supply a HD ethernet ready receiver cheaply either you are as usual in fantasy land.



But if you want to prove me wrong tell me the make model, where to buy it and price of the receiver you refer to as if its a quality product at the right price we may be able to reduce our prices.



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Dear "uk tv Direct"



re 216



My message to Beanbag was very polite and required only his input.. unless you would like to call me a "pirate", too!? I was always taught it was impolite to suggest I was charging



Breeding, intelligence? I would NEVER say anything on a forum unless I MEANT it....AND could back it up / defend it with confidence.. AND when wrong I'll admit it and even thank the person who points it out.. not suggest they charge for something stolen ..



I am QUITE confident our Alexey could supply at a price far less than your.. but we ain't in the game of piracy..



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I really cant believe this guy. UKTV if you can just stop arguing with everyone on the forum and show us the system. You are asking everyone to go to your website and contact you. Its been a week since you replied telling me you will contact me soon and still no contact from you.



This is really unprofessional of you. DO you want to sell the system or just argue about it without actually letting anyone see it.



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Still would like to know who can supply and install a 1.8m dish on the Island for 100€ and as that has nothing to do with piracy its just a dish you should have no problems answering, that is of course unless you are fibbing again or having mental meltdown ?



I am sure other members on here would also be intersted if they plan on putting a system in for SKY as you suggest so come on spill the beans.



By the way a 1.8m dish is not required for the UKTV DIRECT service a 1.3 - 1.5 depending on exact area is quite suffient and provides avery strong signal thoughout the day.



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Its been a week since you replied telling me you will contact me soon and still no contact from you.



Are you sure because i have just looked at your profile and have no record of any email from that email address on record ?



If we have deleted it by mistake i am sorry please send it again to sales and i will reply.



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Any news on the 100€ 1.8m fully installed dish contact yet - Black Beard - Oooooops sorry "mmmmmm" god i am nearly as naughty as beany, Pretty Polly want's a cracker.



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Message 220:

By the way a 1.8m dish is not required for the UKTV DIRECT service a 1.3 - 1.5 depending on exact area is quite suffient and provides avery strong signal thoughout the day.





Messgae 10 you posted:

You need a 1.35m - 1.8m dish in Northern Cyprus for good reception 24/7 depending on exact area.



Are you getting confused?

Of am I imagining that post....?



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No but we have now discovered after various different tests that 1.8m is over the top and not really needed unless you already have one of course.



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Bigger is always better dish wise of course as i am sure even "mmmmmm" will agree so if you could get A 1.8m fitted for his bargain 100€ price then go for it.



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Bean Bag.. not for the first time you have referred to me as a "pirate".. Be QUITE sure that IF I find out who you are.. you WILL regret that remark ( this is NOT a threat .. it is a promise.. I will hurt your pocket and your reputation... either apologise or be sure of your facts...!



excuse me mr. m's but correct me if i am wrong but did you not say you operated a ip tunnelling service, which enables people outside of the uk to view programs (ie bbc itv etc) which are only intended for the uk.

so you assist people to commit copyright theft and you charge them for doing so. personally i see very little wrong with doing this, but i don't try to come over as mr. sqeeky clean satellite god.

seems pretty much the same as downloading movies/music. or dare we say uploading tv channels like uktvdirect.



please don't hurt my reputation, but then i don't pretend to by anything special.



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UKTVDIRECT

you have honestly said in this thread that the UK tv channels broadcast on your system do not have an official permission by the broadcasters,but the same applies to the many rebroadcasters in Spain of free-to-air channels.

As Iīm sure the satellite operator Intelsat knows what is being broadcast,can you tell us if Intelsat is completely satisfied about this contract agreement with your company.

Thanks.



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The contract has been in place for over 3 months on the new TP and over 12 months on the previous test platform and part of the transmission agreement as i understand it is complete disclosure of content to ensure that unsuitable political, terrorist or pornographic content is not been uploaded or transmitted.



The company has received no complaints from the satellite owners or any broadcaster todate.



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Dear "Uk tv inDirect"



re msg 220/2 the 1.8m ( 100Euro dishes) STILL demonstrating your TOTAL lack of knowledge of the CY market place?..



There are 1000's of 1.5 - 1.9m dishes on Limas(s)ol/ Paphos/ Larnaca rooftops doing SFA.. clients were begging us to take 'em away.. We didn't bother as we couldn't give 'em away..



re msg 223 James 1970 - ( various dish sizes quoted) " Uk tv indirect" is taking advice from someone who clearly hasn't tested the signal island wide.. I've given him RELIABLE figures and he chooses to "mock".. ;)



re 227 CyprusUnited

you have honestly said in this thread that the UK tv channels broadcast on your system do not have an official permission by the broadcaster<< AH.. that will make it "all right", then ?.. He's honest about being a pirate and charging for something he gets for free ?!



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re 228



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>>the company has received no complaints from the satellite owners or any broadcaster todate.<<



Which company? You have so many layers to your "operation"... Glad you added the caveat at the end.. I wonder if we will ever hear a peep from you - when the inevitable happens.. ?



You don't seem to be able to respond, politely, to enquiries from folk who STILL think you will "last" ..already..:(



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( cont) 230 Lastly .. Iintelsat are "covered".. I know the contract you will have signed - remember ? ... They can turn you off, and you will be left high and dry..



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...and the "punters" won't even know WHERE to find you... just the poor agents who will have lost their shirts and reputations..



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strange how mr. 6m's (capt. Jack Sparrow of the black pearl) chooses to ignore the threads regarding his own little dodgy operation.



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strange how mr. 6m's (capt. Jack Sparrow of the black pearl) chooses to ignore the threads regarding his own little dodgy operation.



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Beanbag, re 234

You couldn't have missed a very clear explanation of your utter folly ( in so many ways) for repeatedly suggesting I'm involved in piracy.. (msg214)

In case you didn't realise, your "case" would appear to be, "well YES we're pirates..so are You.. !" IF I'm a "Pirate" .. WHY am I quite "findable"... ?



You might like to ask Charles, why EVERY time someone refers to the details of the company behind the operation he answers "he's just an "agent" ", yet he "claims" to know all about contract terms and conditions for the broadcast contract, and whether the company responsible for paying Intelsat ( or Intelsat) have been issued with any legal warnings to cease and desist..When pushed, he always asks us to prove to him what we know about the companies involved..?!



"Charles'" various amateur web sites and what they DON'T say are a warning to clients that this is an operation that is coy about it's status...



Folk ain't going to pay 649 Euro to "agents" of evasive star



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(cont) of evasive startups who aren't even capable of providing the correct technical advice re reception in an area they intend to cover!



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Change the record "Blackbeard" and get your own dodgy business in order before you constantly attack others with the same repetative dribble with no new information and the same old posts repeated again and again.



All the shock statements you have made to date about the company being taken to court, closing imminently etc have come to nothing and are just a figment of your imagination or information picked up from other forums posted by other satellite tv installers that do not want this new venture to succeed as they do not want the competition and so make up rumours to try and put people off of this exciting new service.



Why to you insist on attacking me when challenged by other forum members about your own credibilty, try responding to them instead of ignoring posts you do not like?



They do say that men with self confidence or inferiority complexes attack other stronger men to try and improve their own self belief, does that ring any bells with you ?



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Dear 6m's.

I am not part of a "We" and not necessarily trying to support uktvdirect or anybody else.

all i am actually saying is that although you seem to portray yourself as some squeeky clean, holier than thou

type super satellite god, you actually have two faces. and the advice/opinions you give on forums posibly has a motive other than being simply helpful.

that is all, nothing more nothing less.



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Phew!! all that technical talk makes one dizzy!!!!. I am quite happy with the signal I receive on my 2.8m old converted paella pan. Not much of a picture ( in fact no picture) but cost nothing, and if a push comes to a shove, I can always cook in it again. Maybe I shouldnt have listened to that old spanish chef who was a good cook but knew bugger all about tv! "ah well"



The moral of the story is .........?



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Dear "uk tv indirect"



re 237



Still with the "insults" and no answers.. ? "Charles" ..



>>All the shock statements you have made to date about the company being taken to court, closing imminently etc have come to nothing <<



Intelsat have the security deposit money and can turn "you" off when you don't pay / the "heat" gets too much.



>>satellite tv installers that do not want this new venture to succeed .. so make up rumours to try and put people off of this exciting new service. <<



Duh, sat installers aren't fussy which service they install .. most of 'em know what happens to their cred if they install something and it goes off air with their clients dosh un-refundable.. your "exciting new service" isn't LEGAL. .. you know it.. and NO successful sat biz has EVER asked it's clients to pay up front for one year ..



You can't even deal with client / agent enquiries, now. and you are CLUELESS about coverage for Cyprus.



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I've "attacked" you for being



1/ Dishonest

2/ unprofessional

3/ technically bereft of local knowledge

4/ Secretive

5/ Evasive



and I see nothing's changed...



STILL no address / contact tel numbers / reg'd office



Why pay for something that isn't legal - when one can get most of it for FREE ..?.. Using a SKY box, and the same dish size you need to "temporarily" get your service..



I GUARANTEE - with my cred - you will not be here to argue with me this time next year.. how's THAT for confidence.. ?



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Again attack statements instead of facts, you have a problem & also nothing new yet again same old post in a different guise.



Maybe you also have a large car to make up for shortfalls in other areas



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In fact there is more heat in this discussion than there ever was in my old paella pan!

On my previous posting "I jest !" before anyone gets all worked up.

On a more serious note, whats the best system to get POSTMAN PATon? My 20 month old son is missing him soooo much. Come to think of it, its the only postman he will ever see in trnc......



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Dear Beanbag



re 238



NO.. you have suggested I am pirating UK tv content.. and you merely compound the folly of that statement by repeating it..



I have said on this forum MANY times.. that it is FAR better to watch TV via a reliable feed - than a computer.. so how does THAT square with your contention?



I was telling folk how to get UK content for FREE long before "uk tv indirect" appeared - so HOW am I making money from THAT...?



Carry on with your ignorant fibs from the "cloak of anonymity" .. your are merely demonstrating you have just "arrived" on this board and didn't check my previous posts.. AND that you ain't too smart about defamination of character..



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I GUARANTEE - with my cred - you will not be here to argue with me this time next year.. how's THAT for confidence.. ?



1. What credibilty ?

2. How can you make that guarentee do you have some new factual information to share (i don't think so)?

3. Can you also GUARENTEE that the stronger ITV1, CH4, FIVE etc will still be receivable on a 1.8m dish in N.C this time next year ?

4. What about your services that other members have questioned the legality of, can you guarentee that they will still be available next year ?



The one thing i can guarentee is that you will still be posting the same repetative posts as long as any service is in existence that you do not personaly like or are jealous of because you are not personaly involved.



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Dear UK tv inDirect"



re msg 242



Instead of discussing my wife, my cars, my possible "shortfalls", suggest you check out the accuracy of my post in 241



FACT -

1/ Dishonest - Pirating- STEALING free content and charging for it



2/ unprofessional - how long you have? Website, asking for 1 year in advance - as a startup!.. announcing some thing you can't demo.., not responding to enquiries..



3/ technically bereft of local knowledge - dish sizes up 300% from initial announcement



4/ Secretive - no phone numbers, company address



5/ Evasive - asks US to reveal info about company(ies) when queried, and suggests one should pay an agent - with NO ability/ involvement to control the continued service





and what is the response.. you want "facts ".. I'm repetitive.. ;)



WE want ANSWERS.. folk might sign up in droves if you let 'em pay monthly in advance and by credit card.. WHY can't you do that ?..



THAT would shut me up..



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This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.



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re 245



I will answer the non subjective questions



>>3. Can you also GUARENTEE that the stronger ITV1, CH4, FIVE etc will still be receivable on a 1.8m dish in N.C this time next year ? << No, but something will still be there.. as SKY / BBC might move things around..there's LOADS of SKY subscription stuff thats available for less than "your" Pirate service...



I KNOW you won't be around next year and that you can't guarantee it.. ;)



>>4. What about your services that other members have questioned the legality of, can you guarentee that they will still be available next year ? <<



YUP.. coz its been around for twelve years - accepting credit cards for six and accepts monthly in advance.. with security for clients..



But I haven't advertised it .. YOU did. I have four clients in "TRNC" .. I KEEP telling folk.. if you can get it via satellite - FAR better than a pc .. "TRNC" isn't a target market.. it is covering by UK TV in clear - for FREE..



Try answering MY poi



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