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handy_workers


Joined: 20/08/2007
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Message Posted:
19/04/2008 19:08

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House cleaners available.

Students available from now

and during the whole summer.



Get your house cleaned in a regular basis.

do not hesitate. Email now.

hany_workers@hotmail.com



Aratnak


Joined: 29/03/2008
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25/04/2008 10:09

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Hello Handy workers,



are the students available for every area? Girne, Lapta or Karsiyaka?



Thanks



TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
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25/04/2008 11:27

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Just what we need, more illegal workers!



Students are students, that is what it says on their Visa. NO WORK.



Please everyone don't encourage this sort of behaviour. There are many legal firms with insurance out there to use. Use them, please.



If these students steal your belongings you too could be asked by the Works Department what you were doing employing illegal workers, and the excuse "I didn't know they were" is no defence in the eyes of the law. Who pays for breakages? They'll not be insured. If either of these situations takes place they will lose their status as students and be deported. Then they've got to explain that one to mum and dad or worse, their sponsor what went wrong.



Aratnak


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25/04/2008 11:43

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I thougt students are allowed to work during their holidays.



In EVERY hotel you find them in the high season and one of the hotel owners explained that this is legal if it is only during their school break.



I am confused now...



Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
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25/04/2008 11:46

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''Crikey ''That sounds a little harsh Tim , not like you at all .



TimothyCadman


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25/04/2008 13:33

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Aratnak,



Since the tightening of Work Permit rules it's harder for hotels and restaurants to get away with it. They are "raided" on a regular basis. If they get caught with illegal workers they are given a slap on the wrist and told to obey the law. NO employer has been taken to court and fined severely for breaking the law, unlike the UK. An example needs to made of one company to make the others sit up and take notice, just asd was the case when the regulations were tightened. But then again, as this is North Cyprus, a few weeks after it's hit the papers and they have been named and shamed everything will be back to its normal ways, no one giving a damn.



There is a huge unemployment problem amongst local Cypriot Turks who will not work for minimum pay, but foreigners will. The first question a Cypriot Turk asks is "how much do I take home." If the answer isn't favourable they don't go any further and many walk out without even completing an interview. Employers know that a foreigner will work for 1060YTL a month, and when asked by the Works Department "how many local people did you interview and why were they rejected?" the answer always comes back "many locals, didn't like the pay". The employer has done his best to employ a local but can't, so the Works Department grant him a licence to employ a foreigner.



In the UK I was a manager of a KFC unit. Locals wouldn't work for the minimum wage and so I had a team made up of 30 students ( as they were allowed to work upto 21 hours a week at the time. This has now been tightened) doing different shift patterns. It worked for me, they worked well and my life as a manager was easy.

The day came that I was called to goto the local Unemployment Office to be told "no more student work visas. You must employ local workers. So along with them I advertised and they sent people. After 2 weeks I had seen 40 people.

20 were unable to fill in, or complete, the application form.

10 failed the numeracy test.

5 didn't want to work for the pay and the shift patterns (we worked till midnight 7 days a week and "no way is I missing my Saturday night with me friends").

5 I employed. 3 left within a week, of which 1 left after one day. 1 we had to let go after failing to declare that he had epileptic fits and we didn't find out until he had one in the store, and the last 1 lasted a whole month before declaring that he had another job and wasn't coming back, so he left with no notice.

I visited the Dole office with my statistics and was told that my expectations for workers of calibre and note for my vacant postions was above what they considered to be average for the Fast Food Industry. I hit the roof! In the end they relented after the local paper got involved (it's good to have friends who work on a newspaper) and granted me all the student work visas I requested from then on without question.



The main object of making work permits harder, here and the UK, is to get wages increased so that locals would apply for the jobs and get them. But the Works Departments, here and in the UK, the idea has failed, miserably.



Kantara


Joined: 28/05/2007
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Message Posted:
25/04/2008 14:49

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I hope the employers will get as well a fine if they employ the students!



Or are the students only deported and nothing is happining to the companies?



marik


Joined: 15/12/2007
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25/04/2008 14:56

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I believe students under 18 may take a summer job to augment their funding for the semister as agreed in the TRNC by the ministry of education, I may be wrong but dont think I am, however I question who is going to utilise untried students unless you are prepared to supervise them at all times



Kantara


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Message Posted:
03/05/2008 01:23

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Local students are allowed to work!



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