I could never harm a dog but

flossie44


Joined: 05/03/2009
Posts: 223

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 19:07

For the first time for the last few days I sat out by the pool ready for a peaceful afternoon. No chance, a dog in the next village to us ,Illgas, barked nearly all afternoon. I also heard it late last night. It is driving me mad. I do not know how the neighbours put up with it. Most of the householders in Illgas are Brits so if it is yours please, please do something about it. The poor dog must be very bored to spend all its time barking. I wonder do dogs get sore throats if they bark all the time? If not, why not?



Why do not dog owners not take on board that when they own a dog they have a responsibility for their dogs physical and mental welfare, and to their neighbours who might like a quiet life?



flossie

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 20:02

you horrible nasty creature Ii think you need putting on a boat and sinking -



Mrs M

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 20:04

Just stayed in Ozankoy for 10 days, had no sleep most nights when 1 dog started barking about 10 more joined in, seems like every garden around there has 1 or 2 dogs left outside in it.

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 20:40

Hi Limerickman, welcome to the forum, I can see you being a really popular addition to the membership.



Tony

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 20:41

There are dogs and dogs. It's the owners who are supposed to be in control but so often are not.

I could certainly harm a dog if it was attacking a defenceless person or creature.

Dogs are o.k. so long as you don't reverse the spelling!

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 20:48

your loss

elkiton



Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 514

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 20:57

millzer, when like me you have a neighbour who goes out and leaves the dog to howl, bark and cry, and it has done that morning noon and night, then if it were to go missing that would be no loss at all, in fact a very positive benefit. the longest we had a month back was a 6 hour marathon and I can tell you that I lost all sympathy with owners that had had their dog poisoned.

TonyE

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 21:01

RE msg 2, limerickman: (...) Feed them one end and the s*it the other. (...)

=> Interesting. How different are you? Take care when you cross the road - some people only stop for dogs...

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 21:01

Surely, owning a dog also carries the responsibility of looking after it and what it gets up to? A dog constantly barking seems to me to be a sign of distress. That's not right. Nor can it be right to put ones neighbours through the appalling disturbance and nuisance of having to listen to that noise.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 21:04

Is there anything that can be done about the constant barking, we are surrounded by it and at night it drives me crackers. We have tried asking the owners politely if anything can be done but all we got is a shrug and a smile, anyone any ideas.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 21:06

RE msg 9, elkiton: (...) I lost all sympathy with owners that had had their dog poisoned. (...)

=> The very best in some posters' character surfaces in this thread! When an excessive barking dog annoys you (which I can very well understand): go to the police or the Belediye. It is not necessary to write nasty things about animals that can't help their bosses lack of interest or their bad behaviour.

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 21:11

Tony E message 9, I can sympatise with you, the first time we ever came to the TRNC we stayed up at Ambelia at Bellapais, it was the same there, dogs kept us awake all week and drove as absolutely nuts.



We have a dog (obviously) she never barks unless someone comes to the door, and then only briefly to warn us someone's there. Behind every bad dog is a bad owner I'm afraid and that is the source of the problem.



Unfortunately as can be seen week in week out, the TRNC has more than it's fair share of bad owners. It's the OWNERS that cannot look after them and neglect them, so don't blame the dog blame the OWNER.

Ballyboffin


Joined: 25/08/2007
Posts: 903

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 21:17

Woodspeckie,



I do agree, there are too many dogs in Ozankoy who are left to bark all day and night. I personally know people who have now got dogs, not because they love or want them but because there were a lot of break-in's there this past year and they only want them as guard dogs. These poor things are just barking for a bit of love and attention, they are left out in the sun all day and all night, usually tied up as well. It is sickening and other poor bods like ourselves have to put up with it.

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 21:20

msg 9: Elkiton, you should "borrow" your neighbours noisy dog and tie it up in YOUR garden.

See how your neighbour likes it.



Tony

Ballyboffin


Joined: 25/08/2007
Posts: 903

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 21:24

minertor.



I thought that it was just the Irish who did that ............................................!!



I loved that joke.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 21:36

RE msg 14, limerickman: (...) Hey Dutchy your messing with the wrong fercker here. I dont own a hound but I can soon track you mateyboy. (...)

=> I'm not particularly interested in meeting you. I'm sure I've met more pleasant Irish people here and in the Irish Republic than you seem to be. For a brand new member you've made quite an impression.

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 21:37

Isn't that the Homer Simpson technique.



Judging by the opinions here we should really be poisoning or shooting the owners as it is not the dogs fault but theirs however this would just lead to more strays and start a complete different argument.

elkiton



Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 514

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 22:08

Dutch, "write nasty things about animals"? Where are you coming from man, I am an animal lover who for the first time in my life does not have any pets because my lifestyle here would not be fair to them. Unfortunately too many so called animal lovers have no consideration for their fellow man.... and writing that barking dogs are a nuisance is hardly unfair to the animal, because they do unfortunately bark!

TonyE

PS proge1 I love your logic lol

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 22:09

I have a large box of earplugs if anyone needs them, less messy than shooting or poisoning the dogs, or owners.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
21/09/2009 22:16

RE msg 22, elkiton: (...) Dutch, "write nasty things about animals"? (...)

=> Yes, indeed, you did. I quote from one of your posts: (...) and I can tell you that I lost all sympathy with owners that had had their dog poisoned. (...)

Have you ever seen a dying, poisoned dog? And experienced the distraught of the owner(s)? And in general "you lost all sympathy etc". I can hardly believe that you, calling yourself an animal lover, can mean this.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 00:17

Limerick man I am sad you feel like this. Being from Limerick myself we all had dogs there remember. Dutch is an animal lover and helps poor souls any way he can. Dogs will bark for a reason a warning someone is approaching i.e. Here its more likely distress for the way they are chained up or caged. Responsible owners ie the expats tend to love them and make them domestic. Education in the country we live in but then how can we its thier country. Shot Poision Mame it is Ok

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 01:34

msg 14,Hans, don't worry too much about the threats from the plastic paddy, He's just trying to make an impression. 2,000 miles make an ideal safety margin, eh, limerickman. If you want to make a name for yourself, welcome to the home of the Ballaghereen Bull. Limerick is just a joke, as you are, Newby.



Tony

AlexF065


Joined: 07/09/2009
Posts: 271

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 01:40

limmerick man

I would gladly buy the boat and sink it with you on board

littlejohn


Joined: 09/03/2009
Posts: 316

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 01:53

You're dead right Limerickman. While they all sit around debating whether it's the dog or the owner that's the problem many peoples holidays and lives are being blighted by this "largely English" phenomen.

Wherever you go in England you have to put up with endless dog noise and they've exported the problem to Cyprus and elsewhere.

My last hol in Kyrenia and previously in Bellapais was spoilt by the same problem.



The owners are probably the parents and grandparents of the morons you see with "pitbull" types on the end of leads over here in UK.I asked one such example who was taking who for a walk but he just looked perplexed.

Unfortunately as I have repeated many times you can't educate s**t !!!

Whistler


Joined: 28/07/2008
Posts: 1332

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 09:45

Elkiton. How can you be so nasty and heartless? What Dutch says is so right. My dog was poisoned and I never want to see it happen again to any animal, it is horrendous. It was not because he was a nuisance, as we keep him in and he is never out on his own, only on a lead. Some moron had been down our road and systematically put chunks of poisoned meat outside every gate. The vet saved him luckily and I must tell you he is not a barker. We never leave him outside to bark at people going by. Our little cat was not so lucky. It`s nice to know you have no sumpathy!!!!

Mrs. W

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 10:11

Littlejohn

Just for the record all of the dogs around me that bark all night long are owned by Turkish Cypriots, not sure that any of them have a child/grandchild with a pit bull over in the UK.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 10:15

RE msg 26, minertor (Tony): (...) don't worry too much about the threats from the plastic paddy (...)

=> I survived a "Connemara Pony Day" in Clifden, where the ritual streetfighting started after beer, whisky en songs about "Men behind the wire...". I like most Irishmen though!

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 10:20

Did one of the Admins notice that the new member Limerickman writes threat after threat on this board? I don't mind and even like hot debate, but in my opinion Limmerickman is out of order.

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 10:30

on this occassion I agree with you Dutch idiot man (him not you )



As for the locals that allow their dogs to bark education education about treatment of animals ! woudl be a start



Mrs M

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 10:37

Which rock do these cretins crawl from under, I don't know why they bother coming on the board as obviously they have no interest in TRNC, they just want to spout their illiterate garbage, perhaps it makes them feel good, sad really.

Littlejohn and Limerickman just go away and find somewhere else to flex your muscle.

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 10:39

MSG33:

c'mon Hans, I think the guy is like a breath of fresh air. He just hasn't realised that the good Izzett began this forum for the help and enlightenment of the know nots, by the know alls. I'm sure that the ambience created by the spirit of friendship and camaradie throughout this forum will survive this minor blip. He's new, let him settle in.



Then we'll get 'im.



Littlejohn, don't blame the expats for the problem. For some reason the TRNC vets will not put a healthy animal down. If you report a stray to KAR, they catch it, spay it, put a tag on it's ear and return it to where they caught it. Unless a dog attacks people, then the police turn up and shoot it, they are more or less left alone to roam, or be adopted by an expat.



Tony

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 10:54

msg 30, Hi Lim, you don't mind if I call you lim, do you? And you can call me Min, there, we're almost buddies. Isn't that better,

Talking about golf, to cement our new friendship if you tell me what your favourite balls are I will see if I have any. Most of them are already spoken for but a dozen or so won't be missed.

Don't come over with the impression that the golf here is same as it is there. Do you remember when you were a raggy arsed kid and thought golf was a game for the idle rich, welcome to deja vu.



Tony

paddywack


Joined: 04/05/2009
Posts: 959

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 10:57

After reading some of the posts on this thread,I now realise why I prefer dogs to humans.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 11:04

tony i dont think he needs to settle he seems to have been here a long time i think. They seem to have a way of giving themselves away. xx

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 11:08

exactly my own thoughts, Liz

Seems a bit too full on to be new



Tony

paddywack


Joined: 04/05/2009
Posts: 959

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 11:08

Msg 40

Name please.

booitsme


Joined: 04/02/2009
Posts: 667

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 11:12

Oh Paddywack how I agree with you!

begonia


Joined: 19/05/2009
Posts: 229

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 11:53

No such thing as a bad dog. Only a bad owner.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 15:00

Hans

Message 33

All new posters are monitored and we are aware of any potential misfits.

We just let them post for a while just to see where they are going.

AJ

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 15:21

AJ I cannot belive you think his behaviour on this htread especially message 30 is ok to continue



"I'll be over soon. It appears that there is already a network in place for mutt poisoning. Does anybody have any contacts? Where do you get the poison from is it a local supplier?"

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 19:27

Not you as well, Sienna.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 19:44

Surely dogs constantly barking and poisoning are 2 different issues? I personally believe poisoning dogs to be abominable. I also hate the noise of constant barking & the resulting stress that it causes me & others. My experience is that it's locals that keep their dogs outside and leave them to bark.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 19:46

RE msg 39, AJ: (...) Hans Message 33 All new posters are monitored and we are aware of any potential misfits. We just let them post for a while just to see where they are going. AJ (...)

=> AJ, I do hope you are referring to my message 28 instead of 33, which is not mine. I have screendumped his threats and I will not hesitate to consult the local police if and when he repeats them. I think that the island (i.e. the Northern part) is not in need of people like Limerickman - there are already enough of his kind on the terraces in the Girne harbour and in certain bars elsewhere. Two baseball bats from a sports career during my younger days are waiting for him who treatens me, my wife or my dogs. I'm not kidding.

millzer


Joined: 12/04/2007
Posts: 978

Message Posted:
22/09/2009 20:13

the post are of there original number as Limerickman posts are deleted thank goodness for that



Mrs M

littlejohn


Joined: 09/03/2009
Posts: 316

Message Posted:
24/09/2009 01:22

Message26 - I have been involved with both sides of Cyprus for 40 years. When I first arrived there was no dog "problem". The problem appeared with the arrival of settlers. There is no doubt about this!! Who are the settlers??The point I am making about the pit bull owners is that they come from the same indisciplined , ignorant background as the people who have dogs and do not look after them properly. I am not directing this at anyone in particular but it is generally accepted that" irresponsible "dog owners cause other people a lot of grief both at home and on holiday.