Cypris IS GREEK! It's official, it was on Sky TV

pinkchilli


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Message Posted:
30/09/2009 22:50

Well the "bubbles" have surpassed themselves.



Why, you may ask? Whilst I and about 50 - 100 million others are watching a football match between Nicosia Apoel and Chelsea, any viewer could not help noticing the next stage in the "Peace Process".



There were at banners running the length of the pitch in all European languages making the following statement:



CYPRUS IS GREEK.



English, French, Italian, German, etc.



These were not hand-written small banners. They were professionally designed, written in foreign languages (obviously for foreign viewers to be able to read). They must have cost a few thousand pounds.



Someone must have organised this.



Someone must have paid for this.



Someone must have approved this.



Once again, the "bubbles" have turned a sporting event into a political one.



I must admit, it's very clever. Their biggest TV audience for decades.



Will Talat, or Turkey make a complaint? Will Apoel be suspended? Will they be fined?

pinkchilli


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Posts: 689

Message Posted:
30/09/2009 22:54

Remember when Talat stood on the podium at the Turkish Grand Prix?



Well, Turkey had to pay a few million pounds in fines.



I think this is big enough for Talat to miss a round of talks.



However, I think no one will complain, nothing will be done, as per usual.



Don't need to worry about any referendum, the "bubbles" will never agree to any solution.



The good news is, as I write this Chelsea are one nil up.



Come on you Blues.

MUSIN M


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Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
30/09/2009 22:54

pinkchilli



still believe they want to share it with us turkish.







LONG LIVE THE KKTC





musin

newlad



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Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
30/09/2009 22:56

Not another football thread,lol

pilgrim



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Posts: 1404

Message Posted:
30/09/2009 22:56

Just seen it, wonder if Talats watching , good starting point for next meet.

pinkchilli


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Posts: 689

Message Posted:
30/09/2009 22:58

Musin.



They will only share with the mainland "bubbles".



Just take a look at their forums:



http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus-problem.html

MUSIN M


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Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
30/09/2009 23:01

who cares what they do ,they will never have the north .





musin

MUSIN M


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Message Posted:
30/09/2009 23:05

pinkchilli



if they asked nicely ,they may of got some of it ,NOT NOW ....how,s it go,..... they think it,s all over



it is now.



long live the kktc



musin

cypwine


Joined: 09/05/2009
Posts: 177

Message Posted:
30/09/2009 23:05

msg 7



The CYPRIOTS already have the north... theres just one obstacle standing in there way!!!!!!no need to tell you who they are are Musin!

pinkchilli


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Posts: 689

Message Posted:
30/09/2009 23:07

cypwine.



The topic refers to "bubbles" of Greek Cypriot desent.

Middle Easter


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Posts: 146

Message Posted:
30/09/2009 23:08

pinkchilli - if there is one certainty in life it is that the Cyprus problem will be resolved before Chelsea win the Premiership...



I am not patisan re football, but when you have a team of 'random' superstars with a core who think they are more powerful than the manger (which they are) then in the words of Vinnie Jones you are 'daffy ducked' mate!







































you daffy ducked mate!

pinkchilli


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Posts: 689

Message Posted:
30/09/2009 23:15

Middle Easter.



I believe that the Cyprus Problem, as far as the "bubbles" are concerned, started in 1974, just three years after one of your life-long problems.



Was the replay not a resounding victory?



What division are you now competing in?

Middle Easter


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Posts: 146

Message Posted:
30/09/2009 23:43

pinkchilli,



You are well informed, hats off to you....!



Appreciate the banter but, I stand by what I said......although the particular team (no names) I support may take even loger to win the Premiership....

pinkchilli


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Posts: 689

Message Posted:
30/09/2009 23:47

I'm glad you took it well.



My best mate also supports L***S U****D. He gets so much stick.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 00:11

Dear PC



re msg 14



I VERY much doubt your mate supporting Leeds Utd is getting too much "stick" at the moment... ;)



re the Apoel match and the "CY is Greek" ... not exactly a wise move...

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 01:14

cypwine



the cypriots already have the north ,yeh ,the turkish cypriots not the greeks, now let,s see what



else you can come up with to lie too the world,that are your intentions are they not ,after all



why else would you write in several languages that cyprus is greek.



LONG LIVE THE KKTC



musin

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 01:26

I just think its so sad they can go to these lenghts to use sport as a medium to declare thier intensions. Sport is for all not polotics. Was there much trouble there xxxx

sporty


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Posts: 685

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 01:56

i think the trouble will start when talat meets christophias again,i bet talat etc are pretty pissed off about it.

twaddle


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Posts: 245

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 09:42

When I watched CSKA Moscow V Besiktas I noticed several large banners saying "No to Racism" around the edge of the pitch. I then watch the next match in the same competition and see a banner saying "Cyprus is Greek". That sounds very much like racism to me. Is it not time that FIFA got involved and did something positive rather than stopping friendly matches in the TRNC??.

I also noticed last night that there were no Republic of Cyprus flags around the ground, but plenty of Greek flags!!

hattikins


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Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 09:43

Shows how prepared they are to discuss a * united* island, I just hope the rest of the world are watching their antics and see them for what they are. Cyprus has never been Greek and never will be.

cypwine


Joined: 09/05/2009
Posts: 177

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 09:57

Quite right Hattikins



Cyprus is not Greek niether is it Turkish... It is Just Cyprus an EU country, with a few obstacles in the way.

hattikins


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Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 10:10

Yes Cypwine, the main obstacle being that Southern Cyprus want to dominate the island and reduce the Turkish Cypriots to second class citizens, they continually show thier contempt in which ever way they can and seemingly the EU are happy to go along with that.

To use a sporting event for political gains is unacceptable and shows exactly what their stance is on the island of Cyprus.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 10:29

I've been trying to get hold of clear images of these banners, the SkySports images were fuzzy and official images only show the tops of the banners. Anyone got images for http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com? A lot of interest is being shown in the article on NCFP, about 100 visitors so far this morning. In my eyes, Cyprus is Greek is harking back to the events leading up to the 1974 attempted coup by the Greeks in Cyprus and to ALLOW these banners to be displayed shows elements in the GC government who want to provoke a violent reaction from TCs and from Turkey.

Mal

ustwo


Joined: 08/12/2008
Posts: 67

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 10:36

Because I felt so annoyed about the fact that UEAFA allowed this this advertising,I have written to them at

info@uefa.com expressing my feelings ,politely .Perhaps some of you could do the same.

Lambousa Gordon


Joined: 03/11/2007
Posts: 1992

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 10:47

Re msg 1



Interesting. I'd have thought that Southern Cypriots might also complain about being labelled "Greek" given they make so much of being a sovereign country.

DutchCrusader



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Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 10:56

In the name of Richard the Lionheart I reclaim his property, the island of Cyprus (conquered in May/June 1191), and cede the Northern part to the Cypriot Turks as a sovereign state. All problems solved.

malsancak


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Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 10:59

msg 24, ustwo said, "Because I felt so annoyed about the fact that UEAFA allowed this this advertising,I have written to them at info@uefa.com expressing my feelings ,politely .Perhaps some of you could do the same."

I shall do, I've been sent an image of the banner taken from SkySports and its now on http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com.

Mal

TRNCVaughan


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Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 11:14

Time for a petition?

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 11:18

Bring it on Vaughan!!

pinkchilli


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Posts: 689

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 11:19

ustwo.



Great idea. I have emailed as well. I also emailed the Sports Editor of the Cyprus Mail: leo@cyprus-mail.com.



Interesting article about EUFA banning Apoel, when they were told by the GC Government not to play against Besiktas of the Turkish League: http://www.chelseafc.com/page/TalkingPoints/0,,10268~50780,00.html

pinkchilli


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Posts: 689

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 11:20

Vaughan



Did you spell "Partition" incorrectly?

Woodspeckie


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Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 11:35

Read the cyprus-mail.com online, some interesting stories today. Talet visit their offices and a story about the talks.

emineden1


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Posts: 512

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 11:47

Sent an email to UEFA complaing about the banners. Wait with interest for any comments from them.

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 11:51

I've sent the email.

pinkchilli


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Posts: 689

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 11:57

This subject needs a lot more publicity.



I don't mind sending some details if anyone can think of who would be interested in receiving information.



Is it in any of the TC or TR papers? Are any TC's aware of last night?



Will Talat decide he does not want to "rock the boat"? If so, someone should rock his!

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 13:44

Dear Kibsolar,



The fine was haned down by the FIA to the track owners and the TR motor racing association as they had sent a list of who would present the trophies for approval .. at the last minute it was changed and Mr Talat was announced as "the President" of "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus"



As this is NOT an officially recognised state - ergo the "post/ title " was invalid, too ..



The fine was for changing the agree presenter, with out approval, AND the use of the terminology..



I appreciate you THINK it is similar, but it isn't outside Cyprus... :(

pinkchilli


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Posts: 689

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 13:48

Marky



Fair point. Well researched as usual.



However, in your valued opinion, what, if you were head of UEFA, would you do? Hypothetically, of course.



I know you disapprove of last night, but is it being discussed in your "circles"?

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 18:42

i have e mailed uefa ,i have e mailed ada tv and i have spoken to a london based turkish



newspaper and have been told that they were well aware and that i was one of several thousand



who have expressed their anger.



musin

pinkchilli


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 689

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 18:44

Well done Musin.



I thought it was only us.



Please can you keep us informed.



Regards





PC

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 19:03

I've put a comment on the Daily Mail and the Independent and emailed the sports editor of the Guardian.

Mal

newscoop


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Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 20:48

So how come nobody whinged when Anorthosis did something similar last season?

cypwine


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Posts: 177

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 20:52

msg 40



Hope you have also told the above mentioned about the Turkish flags that are draped over Gc schools in the north and about the settlers living in Gc houses plus the expats living in houses on Gc land!!! but then again people with morals already know.



Cyprus is for Cypriots and yes the Tcs were and are even less now a minority on this island.



Before you ban me again AJ!! i quit from this expat forum as i am sick of all the small minded people that frequent it, and hope to god i never meet most of you on here!!!! enjoy your properties and dont forget to save for when compo is due to the legal owners of where you are illegal guests!!!!!!

henrik



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Message Posted:
01/10/2009 21:03

just had this reply from UEFA (Part 1):

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Message Posted:
01/10/2009 21:04

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Thank you Mr. Computer for your kind answer

hope that the papers show more attention..

natalie


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Message Posted:
01/10/2009 21:04

Cywine, you are obviously a very very sad frustrated person

natalie


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Message Posted:
01/10/2009 21:09

Cypwine, you must be a very very sad frustrated person, feel sorry for you.

Brinsley


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Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 21:25

Bye, bye Cypwine, just be sure in the knowledge that you will be forgotten.



R.I.P.



Richard

AlsancakJack



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Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 21:50

cypwine

Message 42

Oh please don't leave us, we have so much fun with your postings.

Take care

AJ

proger1



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Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 22:05

Maybe it's a EUFA mandate that you can voice your opinion any way you want this year although I think it would be the clubs to blame. Just caught this from another site, nothing to do with Cyprus but it amused me -



It's almost time for Celtic v Rapid Vienna and Fulham v Basle. I'm getting a banner update from Celtic Park: One says "Unforgiven"…. another says "1984-2009 - We still hate Rapid"… and one with the Rapid Vienna badge on it saying "Rapid Vienna - cheats, liars and conmen". Fair to say revenge is thick in the air.

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
01/10/2009 23:21

Dear PC



>> in your valued opinion, what, if you were head of UEFA, would you do? Hypothetically, of course. <<



I would know the rules and find out if they've broken one by allowing the "banners" .. *I* feel it is somewhat racist as Cyprus is for CYPRIOTS...!





>>I know you disapprove of last night, but is it being discussed in your "circles"?<<





This IS one of my circles.. ;)



But I'll try to explain! This might "help" ..



http://human-rights-archaeology.blogspot.com/2006/02/cyprus-fieldwork-apoel-ultras.html



Some time ago there was a near riot as a left wing Limas(s)ol team played this "right wing " team and flew a banner saying " 'thanks' for dividing Cyprus" ..



This is a hangover from the 74 coup attempt...



Cyprus politics is VERY complicated..

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
01/10/2009 23:22

I SHOULD add that ironically, the(now) more moderate rt of centre party DISY - has been MORE pro rapprochement and wanted a YES to Annan !!

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
02/10/2009 00:39

Mark I agree its all very complicated but should polotics play a part in sport x

AlexF065


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Posts: 271

Message Posted:
02/10/2009 01:29

I think Chelsea will batter Liverfool

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
02/10/2009 08:36

Dear Lilli



YES ( sometimes) .. banning South Africa, during the apartheid years ... what right... but claiming something that clearly ins't - and is inflammatory, NO..

hattikins


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Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
02/10/2009 09:14

Oh Cypwhine/Suzanne/Juliet

Surely you're not really leaving us, or is it just for a while until you can think of another name to use, bye bye dear friend, I guess we may meet again.

cyprusairsoft



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Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
02/10/2009 10:39

just sent my e mail off to eufa seem to remember some arsenal lad was allowed to show his tc cypriot flag at his home ground thats discrimination and racism as well.



as always greek c get away with murder

Tenakoutou



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Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
02/10/2009 10:49

'as always greek c get away with murder'...



And now we hear they're suing the UK government for not stopping them - because, of course, it wasn't their fault!

kavenkoy


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Message Posted:
02/10/2009 12:51

the reply from uefa ....after 2 emails ...anybody else get this ?



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TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
02/10/2009 12:56

Standard computer generated reply which satisfies QA. I also got this reply and hope that we may get a personal reply later.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
02/10/2009 13:04

Dear Tenakoutou



re 57



>>And now we hear they're suing the UK government for not stopping them - because, of course, it wasn't their fault!<<



Well, it wasn't - in the main.. do we blame all Germans / Austrians for Hitler ?



..and Britain DID stir things up between TCs and GCs and COULD have stopped the TR invasion fleet..

pinkchilli


Joined: 30/11/2008
Posts: 689

Message Posted:
02/10/2009 13:17

It's MY topic.



So back to "Cyprus IS GREEK! It's official, it was on Sky TV"



No going off subject, unless it's me.

Tenakoutou



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Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
02/10/2009 13:24

6M's:



The majority voted for Makarios, his creed and his cohorts - that's Democracy!



You can't ask for a refund at the Turf Accountant just because you bet on the wrong nag!



'Agent Provocateurs' of the World unite!

MUSIN M


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Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
02/10/2009 15:25

ok

let,s not sway too far from pinkchilli,s post ,let,s look at this simply and clearly and not complicate

matters ,as some people are trying too achieve .



the facts are simple ,the first time a high profile game comes along televised for the rest of the world

to view ,and what do we get ............cyprus is greek....................



this and this alone is what is being discussed ,so if anyone can come up with an excuse ,or someone can

exonerate the banners ,please post their views .



otherwise ,do not post .



cypwine



if you are a cypriot like me ,then you and i know that too continue to reach for unification is a pipe dream.







musin





long live the kktc

Tenakoutou



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Message Posted:
02/10/2009 15:46

The waving of Greece's national flag at any event by GC's always vastly outnumbers the RoC flags waved - the same at this match.



What does this tell everyone - that they still want 'Enosis' (union with Greece) ?



Who wants unification? - I came to TRNC to get away from the EOKA chanting egoist so & so's!

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
03/10/2009 12:06

ANY Cypriot that thinks that all of Cyprus is Greek or tiny part of it will be exclusively Turkish are BOTH delusional.



It's THAT simple...



There won't be "reunification" a la 1960 constitution - and GCs need to realise that.. esp.. APOEL supporters who laud the banner ad..



However, those who think that one part of the island will stay exclusively 'Turkish' are just as naive..

tulik


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Posts: 220

Message Posted:
03/10/2009 12:43

So mmmmmm, there won't be reunification and no part of the island will stay exclusively Turkish. How do you think it will go?

Tenakoutou



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Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
03/10/2009 13:25

On the front page of 'Cyprus Weekly': RoC's 'Peace Parade', very proudly exhibiting their pathetic arsenal of vehicles and weaponry - all acquired from non EU sources - undoubtedly with EU loan money.



Come on, Bruxelles, now you've heard that Christofias has no intention of agreeing to unification, for goodness sake suspend RoC's EU membership and freeze further loans.



To the UN, the RoC's message is crystal clear - even more so since the 'Cyprus is Greek' banner incident - pull out now!



Why should EU taxpayers keep on funding either UNFICYP, or these intransigent GC bigots?



Let them 'row their own boat'!

MUSIN M


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Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
03/10/2009 14:16

mark



msg 65



do you actually read your own posts ,since your post makes no sense.



i have heard of people sitting on the fence ,nevertheless your msg 65 gives it a new meaning .





musin



long live the kktc

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
03/10/2009 15:52

Hi Musin



re msg 68



My post in 65 make ( perfect sense) ...a bi-zonal solution of autonomous regions as part of a federated Republic, will not / cannot - forever- exclude any ethnicity from settling.



re 66 tulik... I think the compromise HAS to be along the very lines GCs rejected in 2004 OR ... a change of 'attitude' in practical terms - if not political terms - towards TCs



re 67



I'm sorry, but no matter how many tanks the GCs have- they have NO air cover.. so practically this is all 'show'..



The money [for the latest tanks ] should have been spent on healthcare.. but it is hard to 'explain' to a 'bigot' who was forced from THEIR home - whether they were pro rapprochement- or not not to buy defensive kit when their is an army of a third country - just the t'other side of the green line..



BOTH sides need to cut down..

canyavuz


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Posts: 363

Message Posted:
03/10/2009 16:17

mark.......

I see you're still spreading your biased opinions on this forum.

I thought you would have joined a GC forum by now......which would make more sense

pinkchilli


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Posts: 689

Message Posted:
03/10/2009 19:01

Canyavuz.



I think Marky has made recent comments that are a lot less biased than they have been.



Some comments are actually pro-TC.



Three of his sentences in post number 69 are negative towards GC's.

pinkchilli


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Posts: 689

Message Posted:
03/10/2009 19:06

I haven't read every article in this weeks Cyprus Star, nor Cyprus Today, but I'm a little dissappointed there was no mention of the banners.



Nothing on the Cyprus Mail's on-line edition either.



Both my emails to UEFA came back with the Delivery Staus Notification: DELAY, then Delivery Staus Notification: FAILURE!

mmmmmm



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Posts: 8398

Message Posted:
03/10/2009 22:09

Dear Canyavuz



re msg 70



>>I see you're still spreading your biased opinions on this forum. <<



Hoping one day you will back up your contention...