OMG , Jenson - *I'm* getting nervous

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
18/10/2009 10:06

Do F1 fans think Bernie Ecclestone has a button to make cars undrivable - to make a Championship more 'interesting' ?



Or is our Jenson feeling the pressure?!



Looks like 10 points for Rubens this weekend and Jenson scoring nought..



The final race will probably start with just 4 points between 'em ..



Will Jenson 'deserve' to win ?



Do you care ? ;)

rigsby


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Message Posted:
18/10/2009 10:47

I like Jenson,BUT i want Rubens to do it,he has always been the bridesmaid and he deserves to be the champ.Jenson moaning again yesterday,tyres,track,weather,Rubens same car went out and got pole !!

come_on_aylin


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Message Posted:
18/10/2009 11:06

Did he go out at the same time?

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
18/10/2009 11:11

Hi Rigsby..



I'm NOT sure Jenson is to totally to blame..



Ross Brawn - team boss : "The lack of balance which Jenson experienced on his set of wet tyres was unexpected and proved costly as we believed it was possible to get through without using intermediates which proved with hindsight to be the wrong strategy."



May be not all setup info is getting through?! - I REALLY don't see JB being CONSISTENTLY 2 secs a lap off RB's pace .. in the SAME car... albeit with different setups ..



Agree with you re RB eserving to win.. bt he chose to be the bridesmaid.. he could have gone to another team .. JB stayed with Honda ( OK the money was good!) and these gus have been HIS team for YEARS..



Could Ross Brawn consider keeping RB and 'dumping' Jenson for Rosberg, if Jenson doesn't win the Championship ! ?

AlexF065


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Message Posted:
18/10/2009 11:41

I dont think Button is that good a driver he got a good advantage at the start due to Ross Brawn and technology

All the big boys tried to complain but Brawn had interpreted things correctly and they all had to play catch up but as soon as they all caught up Jenson has looked like an also ran

come_on_aylin


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Message Posted:
18/10/2009 11:44

How did Jenson have a better car than Rubens? Surely they have the same technology etc.

Turtle


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Message Posted:
18/10/2009 12:32

I am a little disapointed with Jenson over the last 2 seasons.

There always seems to be some excuse for his poor showing and inconsistency there just seems no passion there, just look at Vittell when he came in the man was so annoyed he started throwing 25 grand steering wheels about not that that will win him the race but just watch him fight this afternoon.



Good luck to Rubens he drove well I thought.

kavenkoy


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Message Posted:
18/10/2009 12:47

is this a football post ?who does jenson play for then ,lol



kav

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
18/10/2009 14:28

In the first part of the season the car had features that suited Jenson's driving style more.. he is the smoothest driver in F1 and brakes late and during the first part of a corner...



So Button drives a lot like Alain Prost



Rubin's style is now suited to the new brake compound they use. He doesn't continue to slow the car down as he enters a corner.



Rubin's is STILL better at setting up a car, but his setup doesn't suit Jenson's



Yesterday in Q2 Jenson's car was running wide at the front - understeer - Rubens wasn't..



what I DON'T understand is WHY Jenson wasn't called in -to change to the intermediate - ( not quite so wet - tyre )



We saw some great wet specialists Hamilton/ Vettel and Button go out .. I'm hoping it is hotter and bone dry as I believe you'll see a lot of the guy,s from the back come through - if they aren't taken out .



If it is dampish my crazy tip is to watch out for Sutil.. he's FAST, and if he can concentrate he might surprise..

sloan



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Message Posted:
18/10/2009 21:18

Great news, though. I was at Silverstone this year and a little disappointed in his performance. Have got a dog called Mr Jenson Button, but we do tend to call him Bobo.

pilgrim



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Message Posted:
18/10/2009 21:32

He's done it, great drive

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
18/10/2009 21:41

I reckon that the best drive of the day was Lewis.

That guy is going to be around winning podium places a lot longer than anyone else that is driving F1 at the moment.

I know some may think that this is nothing to do with the TRNC but just for you Mark I watched it on Dopi TV inside my Villa in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

AJ

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/10/2009 00:30

Dear AJ



You PAID to watch what you can get for FREE in "TRNC" ... ? ))



You think hitting poor old Rubens, causing him to have a puncture, is a 'good drive'.. For sure Lewis is going to be champion (again) - as is Vettel



Let's not forget that Lewis drives for a team with huge resources and Brawn looked like they were finished three weeks before the beginning of the season - shoe-horned in a Merc engine - had to let hundreds of folk go - AND ( I THINK) became the first team to win in the maiden season..

AlexF065


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Message Posted:
19/10/2009 04:10

Well he won

I am glad as he is British but to be honest I agree with some others it going to be Hamilton that will win the drivers championship again.

Ayrton Senna was and will always be my favorite.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/10/2009 16:37

Well Lewis is five years younger and SHOULD have more opportunity - but Jenson is VERY fit and as long as he has a great car, I'd wager he is still more mature than Lewis, and more capable of knowing how to win - may be not as entertaining ..



I look forward to seeing both of them in great cars and hot team mates next year.. I hope Rubens is retained by either Brawn or Williams for another year -as he knows how to setup a car and and *I'm* hoping he can finish second this year.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/10/2009 16:48

EDIT: re Jenson Button



>>more capable of knowing how to win<<

Win a championship .. scoring points consistently, I meant

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
19/10/2009 16:57

Well all in all it has been an interesting season.

Mark

Lewis is consistent and he will get better. If he has a good car to drive then he will drive it to his best ability.

I forgot where he started on the grid (maybe 17th) but he achieved a podium finish unlike Button that started further up the grid but never made the podium.

AJ

ROBnJO


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Message Posted:
19/10/2009 17:39

Lewis-V-Jenson?



Jenson is smoother and more 'car kind'.

He is also less prone to 'incidents' than Lewis, who still get's the odd 'red mist'!



Remember also that Lewis has had Kers.



Lewis actually had an easier drive through to 3rd due to a lot of others incidents or retirements. Jenson had quite a few hairy overtaking manoeuvres to make.



All in all though looking to be an interesting 2010 season. Frontrunners, Jenson, Lewis, Sebastian,... but what difference will it make when the driver changes are finalised? Some interesting ones out there.



Kubica, Alonso,.. and a few other potentials out there.



Possibly the most competitive line up we have seen for years!

Snaefell



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Message Posted:
19/10/2009 19:12

Jenson drove a fantastic race. I usually find F1 boring and hadn't watched a race for years, but that race was really good.

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
19/10/2009 19:17

Fantastic; Fights, smashes, fires!



Richard

Tootie


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Message Posted:
19/10/2009 19:21

Sao Paolo *I* think is always my favourite track in the F1 calender and is also the same for most of the drivers.

Montoya still holds the lap record.



Tootie

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
19/10/2009 22:01

ROBnJO

'Remember also that Lewis has had Kers'



Don't forget that KERS also provides a weight penalty and more importantly detracts from the aerodynamic stability of the car. So there are negatives and positives and it is how the team offset the differences that make the difference.

AJ

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/10/2009 22:28

re 17



AJ



>>I forgot where he started on the grid (maybe 17th) but he achieved a podium finish unlike Button that started further up the grid but never made the podium. <<



True, but IF you remember Hamilton's pit crew changed his strategy to take advantage of the safety car - which would bring great rewards later on - he didn't even understand WHY he was called in - and asked on the radio !



YES, Hamilton drove well, but it was his TEAMs decision that brought the extra places.. most of his passing was in the pits ;)

AlsancakJack



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Message Posted:
19/10/2009 22:35

Mark

With respect to your first post I think you would be surprised what teams can do with telemetry these days , not only can they receive important data from the cars but they can also control certain parameters of the car from the pit lane. I do not know how sophisticated it is now but many years ago before I got into the Oil & Gas industry I was working for a company (and another two after that) that were developing satellite telemetry systems for F1 racing car teams.

As you well know the KERS system can be controlled from the pit lane also other parameters such as engine revs, and a few other interesting parameters can be also.

Interesting technology. I wish I could get back into it again because it totally fascinates me.

AJ

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
20/10/2009 06:48

Dear AJ



F1 teams can do software updates/ resets to the car, from the UK, as it hurtles around in a race in Brazil !



I'm STILL wondering about the real reason Hamilton lost gears TWICE in Brazil last year....

ROBnJO


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Message Posted:
20/10/2009 14:44

AJ & Mark



A couple of months ago a client was telling me of his experiences with his Aston, fitted with telemetry.

It spluttered to a stop on the M4, a call to AM resulted in him being told to sit there, in neutral, touch nothing and leave it to them. 30 seconds later the engine fired up, on it's own, and off he went.



Weeks later his wife loaded the car at a supermarket, but after returning the trolley, had lost the security fob. After a call and some security questions, AM confirmed the car was in Tesco at xxx, and it unlocked for her.



There was me thinking my 'Smartnav' was clever!



Rob

cyprusjoker


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Message Posted:
20/10/2009 14:50

I thought this seasons F1 was the most boring to date.

li n lee


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Message Posted:
20/10/2009 23:46

I am the sad F1 fan yes Jenson deserved to win Christ wins in a season that more than Lewis did last season..

He wasnt the playboy the press made him out to be.

Bloody hell if I just got a drive in an F1 car cos I would be flashing it about.

The boy done good and he is a Brit.

Now weve held the title for 2 years running

Whether Lewis can take it back next season who knows.

Makes life in the Fez that bit more interesting on a Sunday anyway

cyprusairsoft



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Message Posted:
22/10/2009 18:15

jenson is a playboy like that other world champion we had james hunt



lewis is a proper racer

cyprusairsoft



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Message Posted:
22/10/2009 18:16

bring back the six wheeler that was quite something



remember this one mmmmm



http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelda/3668356165/

ROBnJO


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Message Posted:
22/10/2009 19:15

Jensons not a playboy, he's even selling his second hand old banger! In Autotrader this week.



Bugatti Veyron in Black, 1500miles on clock, £899,995,....









O.N.O.