Maths is no talent

charb


Joined: 17/03/2009
Posts: 188

Message Posted:
22/10/2009 01:16

... everyone can learn how to do maths. It's just that one needs more effort and assistance compared to the others, which is not a shame. If your child needs such an assistance, please call on 0533 848 6485. I am a maths teacher with 10+ experience on teaching secondary school and GCSE Maths with loads of extra material. Fees for a 1,5-hour-session for private and group tutoring are as follows;

*** 1to1 => 90 TL

*** group of 2 => 60 TL per student

*** group of 3-4 => 45 TL per student

Reductions will be available if more than one session per week is required.

professoregit


Joined: 30/08/2008
Posts: 381

Message Posted:
22/10/2009 08:13

I think £37.00 for an hour and a half session is expensive. £24.00 per hour in Northern Cyprus!

I don't think the president gets that. Especially when most parents over here are struggling to

pay the already exhorbitant fees for so called private schooling. I was paying half this for similar

session at GAU last year for 1 to 1. Good luck though. I wish you well.

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
22/10/2009 10:00

msg. 2,

Such comments are useful and should be noted but at the end of the day it is a matter of supply and demand and also the quality of service is very important. I am a firm believer in a liberal economy with freedom to choose i.e. for service provider and service consumer.

ismet

charb


Joined: 17/03/2009
Posts: 188

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 01:23

msg 2: I have been teaching in North Cyprus for 8 years, and my price is one of the fairest ones, to be honest. Teachers here ask for at least 300 TL for 6 hours a month (1,5 hours per week) and they don't let students share the cost, they collect the ame amount from each student. And the groups are crowded; starting from 10 to 30.

In GAU, I don't know whom you were studying with, and can not argue the quality of the service, but just wondered; whether (s)he was a teacher or a student?

About the "private schooling", I may agree with you about the level of quality. But, again, the prices are fair, compared to Turkey or the UK.

But, hey, thanks for your reply anyway.

Oleander


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 01:29

Seems fair enough to me. Quality of the service on offer should be the main priority. Otherwise, even if found elsewhere cheaper, you could end up paying more due to the AMOUNT of tuition needed to reach required standard in whatever subject it is you are hoping to achieve.

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 01:44

I think a slide rule adjustment is needed here, not wanting to take the equations out of this fractional matter!



Richard

Oleander


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 01:57

Very droll! Haaaa!

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 08:17

I think a lot of children would benefit from one to one teaching, worth paying if a child needs that extra help

professoregit


Joined: 30/08/2008
Posts: 381

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 08:47

The GAU Teacher providing the addition tuition was the head of maths in the high school, whom I am led to believe is highly respected in the teaching community. Also, a teacher recently new from England with 20 years teaching experience with IGCSE and A-Level expertise. I understand the Maths teacher at Sunny Lane also takes classes at the Black Olive Cafe at a similar rate.



Going by what you said in your first para, not wishing to sound sarcastic but if the classes are full at that rate (10 students = 3000tl for 6 hours work per month, 20 students 6000tl), It has to be the best paying profession on the island!



With regards to the cost of schooling, yes, we agree, there is crevace between private schooling the in UK and that of Northern Cyprus in terms of quality. Private schools here are on a par with average state schools in the UK. You get what you pay for. One or two are improving which is good, some are not.



Best of luck to you, see you around in your Porsche.

AlexF065


Joined: 07/09/2009
Posts: 271

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 10:03

I think you might see a vast improvement if the times tables were once again taught by rote

I think I was one of the last yrs to be taught that way and i can still remember my tables



To me the times tables are the foundation of maths and we all know what happens to a house with no foundation

Treesy


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 406

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 17:56

professoregit



Just to put the record straight - the maths teacher from SunnyLane does NOT teach classes at the Black Olive Cafe.



T

charb


Joined: 17/03/2009
Posts: 188

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 16:04

Msg 9: professoregit

I don't argue about the teacher you mentioned and his way of pricing his service. That's fine. What I say is, my prices are not expensive, because I let students share the price. Moreover, to me, 5 is a crowd. And what I have heard yesterday: a well-known ELT teachers who prepares students to IELTS, TOEFL and IGCSE English has the following conditions: 29 students in a group (I don't know why not 30?), and each paying 600 TL per month for a total of 6 hours of tutoring a month. This teacher works in a state school, and she's free after 2 pm, except mondays. If she gets two groups a day in Tue, Wed, Thu, and Fri, assuming she's off in the weekend, she has 8 groups of 29 students, each paying 600 TL per month, which is; 600 x 29 x 8 = 139 200 TL per MONTH. If you are curious enough, calculate the yearly turnover; multiply the number by 8 months, starting from Sep to May. If she only has one single group, then she earns that number in a year. Well?..

charb


Joined: 17/03/2009
Posts: 188

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 16:05

Msg 10: AlexF065:

I agree with you. I have a student in 7th grade that can not promptly say the result of, say, 4 x 6, for example.

professoregit


Joined: 30/08/2008
Posts: 381

Message Posted:
27/10/2009 15:49

In reply to message 12.



Okay, I did the sums on paper and it came to 1,113,000tl for 8 months. Nice little earner! I also checked using my calculator and it confers. Could I be in line for a Gold Star? Or on the other hand possibly detention for speaking in class? Also, you say this lady is employed by the state, my understanding is, and correct me if I'm wrong, but is it not agaimst the law to have a second job when working for the state? (refer you to Cyprus Today article, October 21 edition). Whats the point of working for the state if you can make mega bucks privately anyway. No need to join the picket line any more. Best of luck in your endeavours.

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
27/10/2009 16:05

"What's the point of working for the state ..."

To get that all important pension after 15 years I would imagine.

keithcaley



Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2521

Message Posted:
27/10/2009 18:38

professoregit,

A large number of schools (and perhaps 'teaching centres' as well!) are privately owned and run, so if the person works for one of those, no harm done.

I assume that as a maths teacher he is perfectly capable of calculating the extent of his tax liability, and the consequences of not satisfying same...

charb


Joined: 17/03/2009
Posts: 188

Message Posted:
28/10/2009 11:53

It is against the law to run your own job while working for the government for sure. But who cares? There is almost no inspection on this matter. An average teacher makes 10 000 TL in a month from his / her private groups. The salary from his/her government work is for the bills. The 10K is for a brand new car, a villa, a vacation to who knows where, etc. Have you ever visited any state school? Have you seen the cars parked? Have you noticed how brand new the cars are and how old-looking and about-to-collapse the building is?

So, anyone interested in a TESOL course? I am serious, you can be a certified teacher in a short while. And you are native speaker! People would run to your private English courses...

AlexF065


Joined: 07/09/2009
Posts: 271

Message Posted:
28/10/2009 17:10

I am about to start one the problem i have is I have to learn Turkish first I assume

charb


Joined: 17/03/2009
Posts: 188

Message Posted:
28/10/2009 17:11

no need... start teaching English instead. Same conditions apply.