Is it time to name and shame

jacko


Joined: 20/11/2007
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 13:03

There seems to be so many problems for xpats living in North Cyprus maybe it is time to name and shame these people so that other who are considering coming here to live know who to deal with and those not to deal with

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 13:10

jacko I agree with you 100%

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 13:17

jacko. I think we have to be very careful here, naming and shaming on an open forum. It's one thing saying that 'the egg's were runny' or the 'efe's has gone up to 4ytl' and another thing naming and shaming.

jacko


Joined: 20/11/2007
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 13:26

i agree with what you say slightly no1 doyen, maybe the beer price increases but how many people on the forum have disclosed names of restaraunts, shippers or estate agents maybe it is time that we had a list of places not to recommend. As we all know there seems to be no rules for xpats it changes on a daily basis and yet the government keep the locals sweet and allow them to get away with all sorts. maybe just maybe someone local on the forum is also fed up with the way us expats are treated and can tell us the legalities of this post. In the meantime nothing is stopping us from producing a no go place from where we felt we had a bad experience.

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 14:44

The system that ebay uses seems to work!

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 15:10

Why bother 2naming and shaming 2anyone?If I dont like where I live,I simply "bugger off".

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 15:35

Message 6

Is that your answer to everything !

People do not want to *bugger off*, they just want to be treated fairly in the country many have made their home, why should we have to pay extra for things because we are not TC, in UK everyone pays the same, why not here. Is that all we are seen as, money cows, bleed em dry fodder, well just think on, it is those same people who are treated so badly that put the money into shops/restaurants/business that employ local residents, how many of those businesses do you think would fold if we all *buggered off*.

Perhaps we should have a list of places that give bad/unfair service, maybe then when they are short of customers they may actually welcome the ex pat community instead of treating them like idiots. Perhaps you would like to go to the pool company that I went to and ask for one of the plastic corners for the swimming pool grid, I bet you wouldn't be quoted £60 !!!!!! Is there any wonder people want to name and shame.

Mindy



Joined: 27/10/2008
Posts: 1210

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 15:38

Hattikins

Pool corners are 14 euro each at SIBA

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 17:35

TO ALL:

Perhaps you should start "naming and shaming" with the ones that came over under false impressions (early retiriment!!!) but working illegaly.



As for"in UK everyone pays the same"...I dont think so...



I should know after having my own bussinesses in UK for 20+ years.



As for pool corners... I did ask to OFFSETSAN for their price while ago and they were 11 euros each.



I find doing a bit of window shopping rather helpful.Regardless what part of the world.



ps.I remember paying £300+ for chese salad for two in Theatreland.Is that cheap or what?????

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 17:38

.."I remember paying £300+ for chese salad for two in Theatreland.Is that cheap or what????? "



yorgozlu. How big were the plates? )

Mindy



Joined: 27/10/2008
Posts: 1210

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 17:40

More fool you for paying it. Did the cheese come from the moon.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 18:03

re msg 10

No1;

The plates were huge with not much in them.



re msg11

Mindy;

"Did the cheese come from the moon"

No,they were English cheese, as I only like plain cheese.I decided on that after tasting some smelly French ones.They smelt and tasted like as if I had pair of socks on for a week and wrapped the cheese in them for another week.

Hope you find the info satisfying.

rocky


Joined: 17/10/2007
Posts: 1749

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 18:51

re mess 10 howabout naming the restuarant that charged that amount unless it is pure fabrication...of course it could have been an upmarket restaurant where you pay what the food is worth then it was probably good value and a restaurant well worth visiting..

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 18:55

£300 for two cheese salads, very upmarket, where was it, Buck House ?

Smity



Joined: 14/09/2009
Posts: 826

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 19:08

msg 10 You would have got better fed by eating the pound notes

jacko


Joined: 20/11/2007
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 19:12

joking aside should we not be helping those that are either living or looking to live here in cyprus isnt that what the forum is all about to give help and advice.....

parkview



Joined: 12/03/2009
Posts: 1123

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 19:38

Mssg 6, totally agree, so why don't half the immigrants in England that hate it so much Bugger off back home too!!! A

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 19:40

RE Msg 9.

£300+ . Where was this, pls name!



Also how many bottles of champagne did you have?



Tootie

jacko


Joined: 20/11/2007
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 19:45

parkview it is not a matter of hating cyprus this is our home we all chose to live here, but bad experiences should be circulated so that business people can hopefully make changes and get it right instead of just giving bad service or charging stupid prices after all they rely mostly on tourism and local people to keep them in business

parkview



Joined: 12/03/2009
Posts: 1123

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 19:49

jacko, I was being sarcastic to mssg 6! sorry if it got misunderstood!

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 19:54

mess 6 - and where would you be if all the Britts "buggered off "

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 19:58

Hattikins message 7 Well said.



We can like the overall package of living in TRNC and still be permitted to comment on ripoffs etc.

Imagine if TC living in London was ripped of by a taxi driver and complained to the licencing authority.

Back comes a letter telling him if he didnt like it then to bugger off back to NC. There would be hell to pay ,it would be front page news.



Maybe parkview has a point, Sauce for the Goose-----



Bugger off back home is something I imagine the BNP advocates.

scruff


Joined: 15/07/2008
Posts: 1070

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 20:28

I'm sure if more people (especially without kocans) could sell their houses here, then many would b*gger off.

At times when that remark is made, I get rather angry with people who make it. They must assume we are all rolling in it & can just afford to walk away. If everyone who has bought here had a Kocan then I suspect many Brits would have left. Also the reputation of the Island (North & South) in property matters can't help the selling situation.

I just have to hope that the short sighted Builders, Estate Agents & Lawyers wake up one day & realise that their market has totally dried up & there will never again be any repeat business.

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 00:57

"I just have to hope that the short sighted Builders, Estate Agents & Lawyers wake up one day & realise that their market has totally dried up & there will never again be any repeat business."



Maybe the advice to "bugger off" should be given to some of the above.That would do more to address the lack of confidence in property sector and help the economy of the TRNC , than blaming people who merely complain about not getting what they paid for.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 01:13

What was that story when a lot of us were kids?



"The goose that killed the golden egg"



May not be too accurate, as it's Friday and has been a very, very long week and I am a couple of brandies and coffees down!



J

TheStonedCrow


Joined: 27/06/2009
Posts: 96

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 01:14

I'm not Bu****ing off cos I like it here and don't have a problem with the laws, restraunts, markets, bars, beaches, butcers, candle stick makers and b***er all else.



TSC

Oleander


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 01:24

What sort of advice is it to tell people who complain about, or don't like (anything at all) to just 'bugger off'?



Yes, everyone CAN vote with their feet, wherever they live. But that's not the way to get things changed. And if things are not satisfactory, or fair and equitable, and need changing, where would the world be now if everyone who perceived a problem just 'buggered off'?

TheStonedCrow


Joined: 27/06/2009
Posts: 96

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 01:29

I'm still not bug***ing off, but I must say I agree with yorgozlu if you think it is that bad here then BU**ER off



TSC

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 07:38

Well I love it here the people, the weather, the food. Have had very few problems with estate agent, builder, solicitor biggest problem was that at first I expected everything to be done yesterday. It ain't ever going to happen here. Now that I know that its easy.

Just wish the residency office would get it right then all would be plain sailing. (nearly)

Rottolover



Joined: 21/06/2009
Posts: 519

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 11:16

Oleander, I like your posts and respect your views, but here is one of mine...



Yes, if things are not right, fair or equitable and need changing, one should bring the problem to the appropriate attention. In other words, complain.



But it seems to a lot of non-British people that British people do this significantly more than others feel necessary. In Australia the "whinging Pom" epithet is well-known, for it seems to many Australians that British people are simply not happy unless they have something to complain about. It seems almost to be inherent in the British psyche, a kind of national passtime.



But I tend to agree that any inoffensive avatar would do little damage to Izzet's community aspirations.

petez


Joined: 04/12/2008
Posts: 560

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 12:45

Re msge19



Jacko, I agree with you but you are assuming the opinions people share will be based on the truth

and not negative comments from a competitor or an unlucky/ fussy customer. Peoples businesses and livelyhoods can be easily destroyed by hear'say.



I agree the ebay system of reviewing is very good in that way, but you can only leave reviews on something you have been proven to deal with and part money for. Any other systems are open to abuse.

jacko


Joined: 20/11/2007
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 12:58

Petez i totally agree with what you are saying i put this post on purely to see if people continually to use this forum to moan. It seems no matter what post is entered for advice there is always someone who posts a snide remark and then the actual post question gets forgotten whilst members and non members have their little banter. no matter what country we all choose to live in nothing is perfect so why cant this forum start ac ting like a community and help and advice others instead of having little digs at one another. There is enough room on the forum to post good advice as well as light hearted humour.

petez


Joined: 04/12/2008
Posts: 560

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 13:32

Hi Jacko... very true..

Together with Naomi Memhet I have spent a lot of time producing information on legal problems in Northern Cyprus.

Everytime we share a link, there is always someone willing to make snide comments.



We had a forum on our website, but until i work out how to stop people abusing it, it is closed for the time being.

Cyprus44 is about as good as you're gonna get..

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 19:37

Rottolover

I''d say Americans complain more than the British ,matter of fact Americans think we are too soft when it comes to bad service,for fear of making a scene.



British do complain a lot .But just wonder if those who dont like Brits complaining, really mean that ,or do they just mean dont complain about anything in the TRNC.

Some of the threads with the most posts have been those moaning about UK and EU.



How about the thread about us in the UK being a nation of scroungers,dont seem to remember anyone who said that, being invited to bugger off or stay away permanently from the UK.



Now what would be the reaction if we substituded UK with NC in that thread.

Geejay


Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 475

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 21:01

Absolutuly agree oleander. If you don't complain then nothing changes and 'wrongs' don't get 'righted'.

Because of circumstances beyond it's control and the isolations that it has suffered, this country has fallen behind the general standards of the EU.

IF agreement on unification is reached then it has a lot of catching up to do and this will produce 'culture shock'.Better to establish better standards now voluntarily rather than enforcement later on !

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 22:43

Complaining=Whinging???

I think not!!!



You get something,and its not wright,you complain to the person,company...directly...Now,thats complaining.

You dont and start talking about it and telling others....Well,in my books thats nothing other than WHINGING.

And,all the while you have that attitude,you'll have me standing up to you,regardless what part of the world.





NOW,how about "GET A LIFE" and get on with it,or else.......well need I say it again?

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 00:13

spot on yorgozlu ,i stopped counting the amount of times people ask this question ,is it time to name and shame ,

it is a question right ,well how about you stop asking the question and name these people ,so they can reply.



By not doing so ,yorgozlu is correct ,you are whinging.so have the courage .....name and shame, stop threatening

and you may get somewhere.



musin



long live the kktc

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 00:35

msg 32 yorgozlu and Musim you have summed it up xxx

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 01:21

Petez



I have asked, posed questions through your 'link' in the past, none of which have been given the common courtesy of a reply! Need I say more?!



Richard