Children left to starve

Mindy



Joined: 27/10/2008
Posts: 1210

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 15:35

I have just been reading a News Story on my Yahoo page about a young mother of 22 years old, she left her 4 Kids under 4 years of age to go drinking and snorting cocaine.She went out one night and didnt return until 10.30pm the next night. The 4 year old girl had tried to make a feed for the 3 month old baby by putting a chair up to the cupboards, she tried to find food for her and siblings. The 1 year old was laying in a urine soaked cot with soiled nappy and no blankets covered in vomit.My heart bleeds for these poor mites. Luckily for now they are safe, they are in care. The mother is allowed supervised access.

Sterilze her I say.

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 15:41

As well as sterilizing her, put her in a room to soak in her own vomit/urine and with NO food let her starve to death even that would be too good, wicked Bastard, or leave her in a room full of Mothers

Why should she be allowed ever to see her children again, there are plenty of women out there ready to give love to them, I hope to god the state dont let them go back to her.

everon


Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 956

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 15:55

pure evil !!!!!!!!

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 15:57

At the age if 22 with 4 kids. How have they survuved so long if this is her treatment of them. Was social services looking at this family. They do not deserve kids. My heart is heavy for these little ones x.

Mindy



Joined: 27/10/2008
Posts: 1210

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 15:58

Smithy

Think we know the answer to that. They will be returned to her as despite everything she has done wrong the Social Services will nearly always re-unite the children with their parent/parents. Yes it will be a long expensive operation regarding access, supervision and the like and even if we do not agree with their decision it will go ahead.

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 16:10

I know Mindy they will send them back and they will be superivised but for how long, then when the Mother leaves them to go and get another fix, what they waiting for one of the poor little mites to die

another baby P

Smity



Joined: 14/09/2009
Posts: 826

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 19:11

With anyn look she will OD or get drunk and fall in tye canel.

Fingers crossed

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 19:23

smity was you drunk when you typed that )

parkview



Joined: 12/03/2009
Posts: 1123

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 19:35

Smithy I have to agree, she should be sterilized, it breaks my heart when I know of so many couples that can't have children and would make wonderful parents. Life just isan't fair!

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 20:04

I wonder where the father or fathers of these children were, they shoulder no responsubility? As the saying goes ' it takes two'

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 20:11

she was probably so high at the time of conception she doesn't even know herself who the father's were

Geejay


Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 475

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 21:35

This incident is a comment on the social failings of our society and the failings of social services. No doubt the children will now be brought up by the state.

However the views expressed by 'mindy' and 'smithy' borders on fascism......sterilisation ?...starve to death ? Your views are no better than the BNP's.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 00:01

All I hope is that these children have good grandparents.. Drugs and men and a young life of 22. Its not a good mix. However if she has given birth she must hold some responsibility to care for her children. If its one dad or 4 dads who may not even know or care. She gave birth. I agree some poor women cannot concieve and this highlights that x

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 00:59

The kids will be put in care. The mother willbe put on a rehabilitation programme. The mother will plead for her human rights and eventually get the kids back. One of the kids will be subjected to abuse in the future by the mother.



It's the UK way.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 01:09

Bill Im just reading a book about all this. I find it so sad. similat situation wherby the oldest child was in trouble from the age of 8 and at 15 put in a detion cebtre and hung himself because the mother always got them back even though social services asked for thier removal. It clogs up the courts it seems. They have rargets to meet . The story says that the social wsorkers become complacant and clock watchers until retirement as they know what ever theyu say will not be heard. So I guess we will hear more Baby P stories xxxxxxx

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 01:59

people are quick to knock social workers and have a go when they nothing other than what you read. Very little is ever said of the good work that has been done because it doesn't sell papers. Sometimes if you take kids from the home you are dammed if you don't you are dammed. Parental rights/ human rights weighs heavily in the parents favour its the law that needs to change to allow social workers to do their jobs. Believe me if anything positive came from the Baby P tradgedy it is that more resource has been put into child protection the government have been forced to provide more finance to allow these poor children to find loving adoptive/ foster parents and never to be put at risk again.............

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 06:25

I say just shoot her, she is not fit for purpose

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 07:25

Having read everyone's comments, and in NO way do I condone what this woman did. But she is an addict and like an alcoholic is ill. We don't know the full extent of this girls problem but if she was so desperate for a fix that she forgot her children then she is heavily into drugs. The pushers, dealers and suppliers of this world have to be dealt with severely before this kind of thing is ever going to stop. Life should mean life for these people as they are murderers. Also the UK government needs to stop feeding these people Methadone year after year as it is not a cure it is another addiction albeit cheaper than many of these peoples drug of choice.

We don't know this girls history but chances are she comes from a family of addicts these people are more to be pitied than scorned and until someone stops taking the softly softly approach the problem is never going to go away. Show addicts videos of others dying in terrible pain with sores from the needles etc.. Shock them!

mixie


Joined: 16/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 11:08

Message 16..Blackpool fan..I quite agree.

Those who work in child protection are constantly slammed for their failings. Most of my best friends are child protection SWS and I know the hours they put in, the number of cases they have and the lack of resources made available to them.I also know they can have sleepless nights worrying about a child or children....not because they haven't done their job but because they feel that the child may be at risk but they haven't got concrete evidence to remove or because they have asked their management for a placement and they are told that there are no available foster placements!!!

If we get back to grass rooots..the mother had these children, they are her responsibility. Failing that the extended family should have been more actively involved and protected the children. Also what about the community? Social Workers generally mop up all the shit, do their best and into the bargain get slated for it.

M

adagirl


Joined: 01/06/2009
Posts: 371

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 11:42

Mixie - I agree about the extended family comment, but the sad thing nowadays is that there aren't that many around now!! How many of us here have left grandchildren in the Uk (me for starters)? Maybe that young Mother had simply had no support, what she did was terribly, terribly wrong but who knows what her state of mind was? I agree with Nurseawful, she is ill and needs help.

mixie


Joined: 16/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 12:03

I agree too, she needs help and she will get help but how long do the children have to wait?

Their childhood is running away from them and we take the risk of letting their whole childhood being put on hold til mum gets her act together.My experience is that despite support, many drug addicts simply fall back into using as soon as they are "out" again. A drug users chances are substantially bettered if they are rehoused to an area which is distant enough from where they used to get drugs and in a supportive community...that said there is still no guarantee that she will pull through and be able to care for the children.Another factor is this, when I started working in this area(18 years ago) there was a general sense of shame and a realisation that a drugs lifestyle was incompatible to bringing up kids. With this there was a greater success rate as they had insight...times have now changed and many drug addicts think a drugs lifestyle is the norm and cannot see the issues.

m