Capital is no longer British, says BNP leader

LondonCypriot


Joined: 15/12/2008
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 17:41

.........from a city that had been "ethnically cleansed" and was "no longer British".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/23/bnp-nick-griffin-question-time?CMP=AFCYAH

lapta29


Joined: 09/10/2009
Posts: 88

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 17:55

QUITE TRUE no other capital in the world has been more ethically cleansed than London .....



It is a national disgrase

lapta29


Joined: 09/10/2009
Posts: 88

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 17:56

QUITE TRUE no other capital in the world has been more ethically cleansed than London .....



It is a national disgrace

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 18:08

Bring in the National Front.

lapta29


Joined: 09/10/2009
Posts: 88

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 18:11

or the socialist workers party....ooops new labour are in !!

TopTen


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Posts: 1246

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 18:19

It is true I and my wife took our two grandsons to visit London to see the sights but primarily to ride the eye,

on arriving by train stepping outside Kings Cross we tried to get info from people on the street as to what bus we needed to get to the eye they totally blanked us never ackowledging that they had even heard us. On arriving back home I relating this to friends who they said probably could not understand you they would be foreign as no English people live in London

Snaefell



Joined: 07/06/2009
Posts: 266

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 18:28

Too true. I was born in Hammersmith and last time I visited after 30 years away, I could not recognise it as the London I remembered. At least 99 per cent were speaking a foreign language.

hattikins


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Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 18:50

Message 5

There are still some decent Labour supporters you know.

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 18:56

The whole country is no longer British!

Unfortunatley if the indigenous white population dares to complain or make comment we are accused of being racist.

Its too late, far too late.

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 20:43

Hi Tony,



My sentiments as well. I live in West London and when I am out shopping, if you hear anyone else speaking english you are lucky. It has gone to far and it is far to late.







The butlers wife

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 21:10

Msg 8. Coachie??

When we were in Ozankoy in September sitting in Liaisons having a drink at lunchtime, three young men came in and sat near a table where there were 10 brits sat, one of the men shouted out "there are more Londoners in here than there are in London".

Hatty


Joined: 13/07/2008
Posts: 260

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 21:51

When you say "British" do you actually mean English because we are not allowed to be English. Ok if you are Welsh, Irish or Scottish but not English

AlexF065


Joined: 07/09/2009
Posts: 271

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 22:28

They Reckon in 3 more years Birmingham will be the first "Black" city

well from what i know they already own alum rock, satley, the greater part of washwood heath, most of bordsley, lozells,handsworth, smethwick, most of perry bar now getting into parts of great bar

it is said they are even getting into the "wood" which i find very hard to belive.



"black" seems to have been used to denote a skin colour not white so this means carribean & asian decent

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
23/10/2009 22:58

" why dont they eat cake?"



The intellectual ruling class in the UK are completely out of touch with the ordinary man and woman.



The BNP spout racism mixed with things ordinary people feel to be true or more importantly know to be true.



The ruling class must reconect with the population of this country or the racists will take advantage of the void left and exploit it to advance their hatred and filth.

TheStonedCrow


Joined: 27/06/2009
Posts: 96

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 00:25

Stop complaining



There is no UK it is now "Europe" thats where you live, if you don't live there what does it matter.



I don't give a dam or don't care what happens in/or to the UK.



TSC

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 00:29

I think you will find that wales scotland and my own Ireland have more than thier share. On my last trip to wales wherby Im used to bi lingual welsh and english Tescos now had Polish. I havent been back to Limerick for 6 years but Im told its totaly polish. The newspapers etc are in polish. I agree in enterprise but not when it takes away commities. The EU if it works or not how many brits and Irish would you see in thier countries, Thier govs must have it so right x

beno12



Joined: 03/04/2009
Posts: 124

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 00:50

.from a city that had been "ethnically cleansed" and was "no longer British"



My god everybody still asleep,you could see it back in the"70s" this was going to happen..

The English sold- out fast buck---its the same old story ...not clever..now their grunting & groaning.

Oleander


Joined: 03/05/2009
Posts: 302

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 00:51

What a load of racist rubbish! If you've opted to leave the UK (for whatever reasons) why are you so bothered about what is going on in the UK?



It is just not true that more 'foreigners' live in the UK than Brits. I'd guess Cyprus actually has a larger percentage of foreigners living there than the UK does. Where I lived in the UK, before coming to Cyprus, there were hardly any.



But it is 'sensationalist' and good sport I suppose to spout such stuff.

beno12



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Posts: 124

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 01:44

Msg.18

Spot on there....

Brinsley


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Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 01:46

Give it back to the Romans!



Richard

TheStonedCrow


Joined: 27/06/2009
Posts: 96

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 01:53

Give it to anyone, as no one would buy it !!!



TSC

Oleander


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Posts: 302

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 01:57

And what have the Romans ever done for us?

Jeannie


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Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 02:02

Message 22 - well, there was the wheel. Oops, sorry, wasn't that the Greeks???? My history's not what it was.

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
24/10/2009 02:24

Well, if the Romans weren't straight at least they built straight roads!



Richard

Jeannie


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Message Posted:
24/10/2009 02:34

Mr B



And some of them still remain today (the roads, I mean, not the straight Romans)



JW

Coachie



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Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 21:46

Was watching tv this morning and they were interviewing people from Doncaster and this bloke said "The BNP are only saying what the other parties need to be saying but dare not."Lot of truth in that.biggest vote catcher there was,playing to the immigrants.Enoch Powell was dead right in the 60,s that is why Tories banned him .....

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
25/10/2009 05:43

Bloody hell I never thought I would agree with anything coachie said but there you have it ....I AGREE.

scoobydoo


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Message Posted:
25/10/2009 06:34

I worked for a few years in the Oldham area of Manchester which has a huge amount of Asians and I was shocked when I heard that ordinary white middle aged 'english' people were voting for BNP., they didn't seem the type.



This was after the riots in the late 1990's, I was still working there and was absolutely horrified when I went to drive down a particular road in Oldham only to have to turn around because it was blocked by asians and there were large white sheets hanging from the big blue and white road signs saying 'Whites enter if you dare'. The police, apparently, could do nothing but watch and make sure there was no further trouble!



Most of the 'english' that voted for BNP didn't want them to rule the country but they just wanted BNP to have enough votes to make the other parties sit up and take notice that everyday people are fed up with the way the country is being run, hardly surprising if you are subjected to what I was seeing on an everyday basis in your home country.

deecyprus4


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Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 06:47

I think you are absolutely correct scoobydo, the BNP will never form a government but they will become large enough to bring about some kind of change and that is needed.

scoobydoo


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Posts: 2434

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 06:59

I can only say, lets hope so!!

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 11:03

Nice to see people having the backbone to say what they really feel about the way London and a lot of other towns and cities have been taken over. Mr Griffin by now should have woken up the wan@ers we have in Parliament to what the people of this Island really want and not to become 2nd class citizens in their own country.

Garythegeezer


Joined: 05/02/2007
Posts: 102

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 11:18

I have three daughters and have urged them all to learn a foreign language and move abroad because the

UK that I knew and loved has gone and can never return. Why is it that the UK has attracted more than its fair share of militant Muslims yet I come here to TRNC and meet local Muslims that are nothing like the militants back in the UK?



I do not wish to tar every UK Muslim with the same brush but we do seem to have a large share of extremists.



Before anyone starts accusing me of being racist my long standing best friend is a Muslim and also God father to one of my girls.



Regards

Gary

LondonCypriot


Joined: 15/12/2008
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 11:45

.....the BNP will never form a government ,,,,,,,,,



How do you really know this is the case, 5 - 15 years time down the road.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 12:02

It was stated on the box this morning that 22% of the British(not English)population would give consideration to voting for the BNP.What does that tell you??

Coachie



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Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 12:05

DC4..Had to go back and read your reply TWICE.Careful now some one might want to take your temperature and check you blood pressure lol...

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 14:41

LondonCypriot

Correct



In 1928 Hitler had 12 seats, 5 years later 288 seats.



Gained power by playing on the fears of the population,who felt neglected by a weak and corrupt Weimar govt,at a time when due to hyper inflation ,the ordinary family had suffered extreme hardship.That same level of hardship was not matched by the establishment.Hitler was seen as anti establishment.



Our politicians should take note. Be carefull how far you go in allowing greed and corruption by yourselfs ,the establishment and banking system.



You have allowed our thrift in pensions and savings to be destroyed ,at the same time rewarding yourselfs and your banker friends that caused the destruction, obscene expenses and bonus rewards for failure.



You have stifled debate under PC, on things such as ,immigration,unemployment / cheap labour,the attempt by others to impose their religious beliefs on us,legal system that protects those that would destroy us and/or our culture from deportation.

Corbo



Joined: 13/09/2009
Posts: 627

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 14:46

girne29..your points about the politicians and the banking system are correct..and further economic downturns are on the cards along with the potential for hyper inflation..and with rising unemployment and some structural breakdown the cocktail looks potentially very hazardous.

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 14:52

msge 36



Excellent posting girne. You have really grasped the issues. All of the issues you menton are creating incredible tension in the populas.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 15:28

Why don't the protestors who where outside the BBC move to the Houses of Parliament, after all it is the government that has caused all the unrest in this Country at present.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 15:28

Girne 29..good post,especially about germany..I know things are bad here and may even get worse and the BNP may get some seats in Parliament,but they would have to change an awful lot in their policy for the whole of the British people to allow them that sort of power.

I do not believe that they have awarded themselves anymore than any government has over the years,and I really do think they are trying to crack down on the banking bonus system.I too believe it is grossly obscene to see some of the figures being stated on TV.Lets hope he succeeds,it will certainly restore confidence in people,me included.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 15:36

Coachie. Too late to crack down on the bank bonuses our money has already been earmarked for January payouts.

Coachie



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Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 15:55

Woodspeckie..I know I am a bit slow at times,but could you elaborate on "our money has been earmarked for January pay outs" some of the banks I have seen on tv who are paying these vast amounts are not even british.I do not see how our money could be used there.Most of the banks who were bailed out have very nearly paid back the amounts to the treasury,and will come under the agreed banking agreement by the G20.I would still like to hear what you mean!!!!

Woodspeckie


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Message Posted:
25/10/2009 16:15

I will look up the article I read and will report back.

girne 29


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Message Posted:
25/10/2009 17:01

Coachie



Only one bank that I know of has paid back anything worthwhile -LLoyds, £2.3 billion.The payback does not mean they are in the black.



Only £997 billion pounds to go!!!!



The bonuses to be paid to British Bankers in ,as Woodspeckie mentions January , will be £6 biillion .



The g20 agreement doesnt come into force until next year, and only says that bonuses shall be linked to profits.Hold on is that not what got us into this trouble.!! They will have to put back bonuses if they make a loss.Yeah right!



from the Independant

"Royal Bank of Scotland, which has received £20bn of public money and fired 15,000 staff since the start of the recession, aims to pay £4bn-£5bn in bonuses. Goldman Sachs, which has benefited from US government support, will pay its staff worldwide up to £14bn in bonuses, averaging around £400,000 for each of its 5,500 London staff.





As in germany, you get enough people with little money and no work ,reading the above. Then watch out!

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 17:25

girns29. Thanks, I knew I wasn't dreaming when I said about the bonuses and yes it did say £6 billion but I didn't quote the figure as I wasn't as sure about that as I was about the article we seem both to have read.

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 17:28

44 Cont



Coachie, When get on the bus does the driver ask you for a fiver because he got you from a-b on time safely.



Does the bin man get £20,000 a year of a bonus if he empties the bins he is supposed to.



Does the nurse get £1000 of a bonus every 100 patients she sees in and out of a hospital ward.



Who are these people who demand bribes on top of their wages to encourage them to do there job,when if I dont do my job I am sacked



Who are these people that make a worse job of handling our money than a drunken gambler,then tell me that I need to pay them backhanders or I will lose their "talent" abroad.



Who are these MP's that tell me that the only reason I complain about their corruption is because I am jealous of their big house.



Who tell me I can get by on £60 jobseekers or £120 pension a week, but they need £400 a week for food paid by taxpayer.



Who dont pay capital gains on flipping profits, but demand benifit cheats are jailed.





Who will tap the an

ROBnJO


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 18:53

girne29



We all know what a massive hole of debt the UK is in.



What we need is fiscal revenue, £Billions of it.



Who can, or is. starting to provide it?



How long would it take Nurses or Binmen to pay £B's in taxes? Decades.



How long for Finance/Banking workers? Months.



Remember that from next year any banker who ge's a £10m bonus will be paying £5m tax into the Exchequer.



I agree with Coachie, these are the guys who can get us the Tax Revenue we desperately need.



You are not right about the Banks not repaying their Debts, Northern Rock, for example, have been instructed to lend more money rather than repaying their Government Loans as they had been repaying them faster than anticipated.



Many Banks accepted no Government assistance, yet are making excellent profits and paying appropriate Taxes.



Love 'em or hate 'em,.... they are the the only sector capable of reducing UK debt!



Rob

Coachie



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Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 18:59

Girne29..when I came out of the RAF in 65 the first job I had was with Laurence and Scott electromotors dointhe instrumentation panels for our early nuclear subs and I was on bonus then,and have had other jobs over the last 40 years where bonus payments were the norm.Its not something new and employees do not normally want it because of the vast difference in your wages when there is no bonus to be earned.It is always the employer who wants to implement bonus systems which encourages people not to work any harder,but to start cutting corners to improve there wages.My company was classic example,we did not want there bonus system but once we started to earn more than they anticipated they wanted to move the goal posts to tryand reduce what they were paying.In banking it appears that you get a bonus whether you are good or bad by the sounds of it.Like a group payment as compared to an individual payment.Doctors get a sort of bonus on the number of patients they treat in a week....

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 19:05

cont..ours is even open on Sat.morning.They stopped that 25 yrs ago.



What I want to know is,who is going to stop it.???If Cameron tries, the old guard in the Tory party will have out quicker than you can clap your hands.If the Libs get in(questionable) they would probably do something,what I dont know, but he talks hard their leader.!!We shall see in April...In the meantime just keep yelling,maybe just maybe some one might hear you...

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 20:50

Robnjo



What we need is fiscal revenue, £Billions of it.

Who can, or is. starting to provide it?

The taxpayer has and is doing it.



How long would it take Nurses or Binmen to pay £B's in taxes? Decades.

Pay £5m bonus for doing there job correctly and it would take them exactly the same time.





Remember that from next year any banker who ge's a £10m bonus will be paying £5m tax into the Exchequer.

Give me £10m bonus for going to my work ,and I will do better I promise I will pay £9m tax.



You are not right about the Banks not repaying their Debts,

How much did I give them ?how much are they paying back? Will take 20 years.



they are the the only sector capable of reducing UK debt!

They caused it!!! so God help us

after their greed caused the financial crash, Govt debt went up by nearly double to cover them.

My kids will have to reduce the d

Coachie



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Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 21:36

Girne29..The bonus culture has been around a long time in all sorts of jobs,but nobody says anything till they see what bankers are getting.The trade unions fought for years to abolish bonus systems for a better hourly rate,but did not have a great deal of success i am afraid.You dangle big enough carrots and there is always some donkey who will want to eat it. I can remember when the Utility Companies were government owned the CEO,s were on about 75k ayear and always moaned they could not do any better in performance.The moment they were privatised their salaries trebled and "we have no problems meeting performance" was their reply.It has not improved any since and we are paying through the nose for all our Utilities. Bankers are no different,put them on a fixed salary and see what sort of replies you get.Some of them will have heart attacks if that happened.What I want to know is who decides what the "market rate" for these jobs.???

gooligan


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Posts: 1591

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 22:28

girne 29,msg 46-Excellent post.



Coachie,msg 49-old Labour would have stopped it,new labour just followed the policies of the Tories and still are.Boom and Bust.

Moover321


Joined: 11/04/2009
Posts: 649

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 23:12

Here we go again! Some racist biggots just can't stop themselves from ranting and raving about how this has changed and how that has changed!



Just take a look at yourselves in the mirror and ask - am I the same person I was 20, 30, 40 or 50 years ago? Obviously not!



So why expect the world and one of its best capital cities to be the same?



The deabte, if one can call it that - is simply absurd!



Read the BNP postings on NG and the BNP on the BBC if you want some real information on what the BNP and its ilk really stand for!



As for those who live in the TRNC - and still drone on about 'home' and how it has changed...just ask yourself what you are doing in the TRNC and if you have the right to be here - should not others from other cultures and of other colour have the right to be in London?



Obviously too difficult a question for some on this forum!

girne 29


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Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 23:20

Coachie

I think we are in some sort of agreement. I detest the whole bonus culture.We can if we want give rewards for doing a job well done but then that should apply to everyone. All to often the bonus culture means the big boys tell the wee boys to work harder yet they reap they rewards.



The bonus, salary, perks system works like this tho in a broader sense.

Bill is a non executive director for Acme voting on the remuneration of its CEO Jim. Bill will vote vote Yes because next week ,Jim who happens to be a non exec director of Bamy,will vote on the remuneration of Bill the CEO of Barmy.



The City appears in some cases to be like a casino where if you win you get to take the money home but if you lose you ask the cleaning and catering staff to chip in and cover your losses.



Its the same with cheap foreign labour ,people genuinly feel threatened, but the reason it doesnt get addressed is that it mainly affects people on low incomes.

girne 29


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Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 23:44

54 cont

If a million eastern european Doctors Lawyers Accountants suddenly came in ,then you can bet the concerns would be addressed.









Nobody is saying we have a problem but at least let people discuss their fears without being called racist or anti european.



Again let people discuss the problem with religious fanatics and the laws of the land without being called rascists.



At the moment these and other problems are not addressed by an establishment that to many seem far too occupied with their own self interests. That and politcal correctness will force people to turn to alternatives that will initially appear to take heed of their fears but will actually ,once in power ,take heed of no ones.

Moover321


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Posts: 649

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 08:42

A racist by any other name is still a racist - period!

Coachie



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Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 18:30

Girne29..Master Cameron and Master Osbourne are calling on The govrnment and the FSA to limit the bankers bonus to £2000 per head. Sounds good but in reality that aint going to happen.To quote one commentator "political posturing " on behalf of the Tory party.Rather strange attitude to adopt from a party who started the" Service" culture under Mrs Thatcher.She was the bankers sweatheart..As the Indians used to say in the western films "White man speak with forked tongue"..

ROBnJO


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Posts: 1289

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 19:20

Coachie



I believe their idea is to limit 'cash' bonuses to £2k.



Other bonuses, even if £5M+, will be time delayed and restricted to Shares, Stock Options , etc.



I still agree with you though,.. it ain't gonna happen!



Rob

Coachie



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Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 21:06

ROBnJo..True.It was cash bonuses and the rest in shares,which I suppose is a little better,because if they dont perform their stock market value will fall...but what is to stop them selling those shares atthe market rate when they receive them.I suppose they could put a time limit on the resale...