Another Labour masterstroke

donga


Joined: 01/04/2009
Posts: 272

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 11:04

when will labour be tried for treason to the UK.............................



http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Ex-Government-Adviser-Andrew-Neather-Says-Mass-Immigration-To-UK-Was-Deliberate/Article/200910415414170?lpos=Politics_First_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15414170_Ex-Government_Adviser_Andrew_Neather_Says_Mass_Immigration_To_UK_Was_Deliberate_

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 11:18

Never and wouldnt vote for them, whoever puts them in power deserves what they give out,

They look after themselves, me I'm Tory

donga


Joined: 01/04/2009
Posts: 272

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 11:27

My biggest problem is that the people that we vote in to serve us ( labour & the tories mostly) don't actually serve us at all.



When are we consulted or asked to vote for anything concerning the UK ?? It never happens. We are rail-roaded down a path that everyone I talk to doesn't want to go.

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 11:45

Its called democracy whats the alternative a strictly come dancing /x-factor phone poll on every issue to be decided.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 13:39

Karakum5c...Well said...

donga


Joined: 01/04/2009
Posts: 272

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 14:04

"Its a democracy"..........................





wake up mate

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 14:11

Time to address the inbalance by moving many more elements of decision making away from centralised government to decentralised communities encouraging local participation and involvement. Give the power back to the people.

Doesn't' help when we have even more centralised power moving to Europe thus creating even more alienation and disenchantment at a very local level.



Big decisions should go to a national vote. In Switzerland if 100,000 peope dont agree with a centralised decision, the whole population is then asked to vote on that topic . Now this seems allot closer to real democracy to me rather than the democracy peddled by our political parties, which is really authoratarism wrapped up under the banner of democracy.



Also this disease (ideology) of relativism (which Labour has caught badly) has to be purged out of the system.

Suffolk



Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 222

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 15:33

What everyone seems to forget nowadays is that all 'new breed' politicians are 'career' politicians - so it doesn't matter what party they stand for - they are all tarred with the same brush - as we have learnt in recent months re the expenses scandal - they just want to feather their own nests!

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 16:06

msge 8



Agree, they are all careerists. This just mirrors most of our society. He who has the most toys is the winner in todays game. We have been bred to become individualists with little sense of community.



From the ashes we need a new breed of leaders to evolve, those who are systemic in their understanding, selfless, eloquent, functional, egoless, brave perhaps even ruthless.

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 16:16

donga



"When are we consulted or asked to vote" you asked........... at the elections !

AlexF065


Joined: 07/09/2009
Posts: 271

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 16:57

Manifesto === pack of vote grabbing LIES

dizzycows


Joined: 12/05/2009
Posts: 2736

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 17:18

ilovecyprus, what you say is so right, with most of our policies now comming out of Europe, our MP's are not leaders, more like follow my leader! (game)Niether is there really anyone there at the moment that inspires me to think that we will be led out of this recession. I am a tory but would like to see them with a bit more fire in their belly......

donga


Joined: 01/04/2009
Posts: 272

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 18:40

hey John W.......................................



were we asked about whether to we wanted to sign the Lisbon treaty ??? No



were we asked about immigration ?? No





Labour or Conservative ?? wow what a choice





The government are there to serve us but they don't & you think cos you voted at an election you have a say. Wake up mate

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 18:45

Anybody who paid attention to what has happened with previous labour governments, who listened to what this lot were saying and looked to see what sort of people they were should net be surprised at the outcome when they were voted in.

JohnW


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 601

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 18:52

What is truly astonishing about their immigration policy is that the people it did the most damage to were their own base constituency, the "working classes". Makes no sense at all.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 19:18

The only UK politician that I ever had any respect for in my time was Paddy Ashdown.

AJ

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
24/10/2009 19:30

People are told to read manifesto's to decide who to vote for................what a joke.



As already said they were scared to death to go for a referendum on the Lisbon treaty and they promised they would give us the vote, they should be tried for whatever law says they can not lie and cheat the British public.



They should resign NOW