Litter, Litter, Litter !

BigMart


Joined: 26/02/2009
Posts: 423

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 17:28

I've just taken the dogs out after the 'Slaughter any living creature you can day' seems to have finished and where they have stopped for a picnic there are Coke cans, beer bottles, plastic bags full of rubbish where there was none yesterday.



What is wrong with these people, are they blind ? stupid ? can someone please enlighten me.



Please Nurseaweful, don't try and say it's tourists this time.

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 17:31

Its not finished yet! Well not here anyway.



As for the litter, I dont think they give a s..t?



Tootie

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 17:37

They are more than stupid, tootie is so right they dont give a s********

I watched a guy from my balcony today he went into the shop opposite came out with a large bottle of water, drank the whole of it down then just threw the empty bottle on the floor, idiot well I called him more than that

ars****le

boerboel


Joined: 02/05/2009
Posts: 290

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 18:13

Welcome to the TRNC..

Mindy



Joined: 27/10/2008
Posts: 1210

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 18:14

Well the mainland turks tend to get blamed for the litter dropping but it just doesn't ring true as the hunting brigade can't all be mainlanders. Can they? One would think pride of the environment would be priority seeing as the TRNC is only 30 years or so old.

Queen180


Joined: 13/04/2009
Posts: 399

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 20:34

I live on a communal site and the maintenance company do a good job cutting back the shrubs/hedges in the gardens. Then they throw it over the wall in the field at the side for everyone to see. To add to that we had a new pump fitted and as the guy walked off and said goodbye he lobbed the empty box in the field also. What are they like!

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 21:21

Hi all,



We have recently had 21 new apartments built on our complex, all the cardboard, polystyrene and plastic wrapping off the kitchen appliances has been dumped in the hedge and the ravine behind the block.

I would like Medview Homes to come and clear it, as they were responsible for this build. They are all as bad as each other and there is builders rubble down every ravine I have seen in the TRNC. I thought there was a new law to stop this kind of thing happening? I am naming and shaming Medview Homes in the hope they will come back and do something about it.



The butlers wife

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 21:31

I love it when you have workmen in to put in a new appliance you ask if they can take the old one away they say no problem, then when you go out its dumped on the corner

wanderer


Joined: 05/02/2009
Posts: 1653

Message Posted:
25/10/2009 22:39

Monday the bins get emptied we go for a walk just before dark the settee is still there beside the bin

Tuesday we go for a walk someone has made a nice man out of tights etc and dressed him in suit hat shirt etc drawn a face

He is sat there reading Saturdays Cyprus Today the following morning the nice scarecrow has gone but the settee remains. So does the tyre tree the mattress plant along in the other field the armchair bush

A couple of weeks ago had 10 days in Turkey litter free drive from Antalya to Izmir Cannakale Istanbul

Education and policy from the top London used to be a tip with graffiti I now find it a very tidy city it can be changed with a will and facilities provided

catalkoykid


Joined: 15/02/2009
Posts: 1190

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 08:40

A couple of our neighbours in Arapkoy threw their garden waste onto the common land part yesterday and they are brits...probably to mean to drive to the bins that are everywhere after all it would have cost all of two bits, sorry dont know what the bits are called. Bloody disgraceful.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 08:53

i'm fed up with moaning about the bleedin litter....



The illegal dumping opp the power station is now of Biblical proportions....

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 09:28

'Accumulate and desecrate!' seems to be the Cypriot motto.

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 09:33

We live by the side of one of the ravines, a lady on the other side is always throwing rubbish in there, crossing the road from her bin to do so. I mentioned it to one of our neighbours, a policeman, the response was a smile and a shrug of the shoulders, how can they not see what they are doing to this beautiful place.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 10:25

mess 13 -- Ah the "Cypriot Shrug" - nothing like it to wind me up....



When the tourists stop coming and the Brits sell up because of the shit tip litter situation, perhaps they will see the error of their ways....

BigMart


Joined: 26/02/2009
Posts: 423

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 10:57

Nick,



thats about the only thing you've ever said that I agree with, keep it up.



Nice to see a posting when your imaginary friends aren't mentioned.

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 12:26

If you dont like litter and rubbish dumping all over the place, you should go back home,nobody forced you to invest and live here.

As the tourists are only here a short time ,its none of their business either.The same applies ,nobody twisted their arms and forced them to come.

Its a young country, so you cant expect people to learn not to drop litter overnight.

Fed up with this whinging, remember "when in Rome, litter as the Romans do"

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 13:07

Oh dear Oh dear



with an attitude like that, you have not got a clue have you? Leaving saturday , can't wait.

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 13:21

Quarmby



Oh dear Oh dear.



Please read my post again,and see the real message.

BigMart


Joined: 26/02/2009
Posts: 423

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 13:49

girne 29,



With a attitude like yours God help this country. if you like to live surrounded by filth, that is your choice, I don't.



As for chooseing to live here, I spend all my pension and more here every month so I think I am quite entitled to voice my oppinion.

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 14:11

Hi girne29,



I get your real message, you don't want us in the TRNC. So can you tell me what will happen to all the new shops and businesses that have been opened by your relatives and friends, to milk us Brits of our hard earned cash when we go home? I think you need to take a reality check grumpy old man and get your act together, stop being so damn lazy and clean up your mess.



The butlers wife

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 14:19

mess 16 - invest ! - an investment is an asset you can sell mate - don't see much selling happening...

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 16:23

Sorry Folks



You didnt get it.



I was stating the arguments that are thrown in my face when I come out with anything like that.Thats why I said read my message again!!

I was being ironic.

Anyone who knows my posts from the past ,know that I lean the other way and hate the remarks like that ,excusing the litter amongst other things ,by telling us all to buggeroff home.



I was not showing what I feel but rather second guessing the form that defense of the mess will take.



Apologies for trying to be clever and failing.



To clarify.what I think is.

Do NOT ,justify litter by saying its a young country .Doesnt take 30 years to learn

Do NOT take tourists for granted and think litter has no effect on return visitors.Its probably the No 1 complaint from visitors.

Do NOT ignore the objections of people like myself who have invested here, if you want us to stay and others to come.

And lastly do NOT throw litter as the Romans do,If I wander into a pig sty it doesnt mean I have to a

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 16:27

act like one.

Hope this clarifies matters,

Bad enough to be attacked by the 3Monkeys brigade,without being attacked by people I agree with!

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 1958

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 16:32

Hi girne29,



Let me be the first to apologise to you, but you did sound so serious and with attitude as well!! Teach you to to be careful in future.







The butlers wife

Corbo



Joined: 13/09/2009
Posts: 627

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 16:37

This is a rubbish thread..Boom Boom.

BigMart


Joined: 26/02/2009
Posts: 423

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 16:48

girne 29,



please accept my appologies. I'm sorry i missed your point.

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 19:33

Bigmart

No a pology necessary, my fault.



As for the litter I've been banging on for years.Just gets depressing.

Its not even the dumping,thats bad enough,of building material,.But what is worse is where the facilities are at hand and still people chose to drop litter.Like leaving beer bottles under a seat in the town centre when there is bin feet away.Totally unnecessary, one would think its almost done out of spite.

Its dead easy really people drop litter because they can. If pride in your environment wont do it then fear of penalty will have to.Cant even keep an environmental area like Turtle Beach litter free.Its no excuse even when the bins are full and left unemptied. When we were children ,as a family we were taught to collect all our litter when at a picnic and putting it in a bag ,either take home or until found a bin.Suppose education will eventually turn things round ,like when had a similar though not so bad problem in the UK.

Queen180


Joined: 13/04/2009
Posts: 399

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 22:23

Ive walked past a house 3 times now and they have left their garbage outside their gate on the pavement. There is a waste disposal bin about 10 metres away - how lazy is that!

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 22:28

as my old uncle Percy used to say "they'll learn..."

GreenArmy


Joined: 26/10/2009
Posts: 31

Message Posted:
26/10/2009 23:41

Hi ............... I'm new on here. Living in Larnaca but often visit the north.

The litter problem is just the same in the south.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
27/10/2009 00:49

I think you are all being racist. It is obviously part of the rich local culture to enrich the environment by sharing your rubbish with others. It's a form of recyling. As they say 'one mans (I mean ' persons' of course) sh.. rubbish is anothers gold' or something like that. We should embrace diversity and celebrate the local culture & customs by simply throwing our rubbish any where we can see the locals gathering to show our willingness to integrate.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
27/10/2009 01:55

Hector - couldn't agree with you more, except for the fact that I don't, at present, adhere to the locals' way of life (i.e. litter throwing). But, hey, you're never too old to learn.



I feel it wouldn't take me too long to get into the swing of things. Who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks? Whilst at it (litter dispensation) I could possibly "Cyprify My Driving" - a knack that has long escaped me, but I do feel that, after 20 odd years of visiting the Island, I am, sort of, getting the hang of it now. I am up for embracing local culture and customs - indeed, I am all for it. So, as a bit of a novice, how do you suggest I start to integrate? Would you start by simply littering (I was brought up in a Keep Britain Tidy era) or should I ease myself into it a little easier? Would appreciate your comments.



Thanks.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
27/10/2009 10:56

Jeannie/Msg 32:



'Wherever you be in TRNC or RoC,



Cast your litter - conscience free,



And enjoy 'Polythene Island', as it's become to be known to be!'

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
27/10/2009 21:17

Jeannie - message 32 - you could start by giving a price for a job, taking a deposit, saying "I come back after 2 days", then disappearing. That should get you into the swing of things!

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
27/10/2009 21:55

Thanks for the tips, chaps. It's a little difficult to know where to start really, as there are endless possibilities. I suppose the litter is as good a way as any to start with. I am a smoker, so I suppose throwing fag ends out of the car window onto the tinder-dry, litter strewn verges would be good? I could possibly incorporate this with 'driving the NC way', i.e. eating a kebab whilst smoking a fag, mobile phone stuck to my face, gesturing wildly to my companion in the passenger seat, overtaking on blind bends and all the while having my right elbow stuck out of the window? Have I forgotten anything?



kaiserphil - I take your point on this. However, this may take a little longer to perfect. We have been reasonably fortunate in this regard (so far).



So much to learn, so little time



J

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
27/10/2009 21:59

You could practice your 'Cyprus shrug' or sit around drinking coffee & chatting to your colleagues during working hours or even better giving people that 'I don't understand English' whilst internally smiling & walking away.

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
27/10/2009 22:16

Jeanne



No fag ends,Fire!



Why not start with going into town at night and dropping just one or two bits of litter,unlikely anyone would see you and you are at least getting used to littering.

Over a period of time you can move onto daylight littering. I know you will feel uncomfortable at being seen but after a while you will get used to no one bothering and your subconscious will slowly take on board that it is normal practise. Once your brain accepts that ,it will be like a liberation and you can joyfully go for picnics and leave your mess for others to pick up.

When you order kitchen units tell the fitter to leave the old ones for you to dispose of, why give him the pleasure.You wont have far to go anyway, just to the end of your road or the field on the other side .



Almost forgot, when putting your rubbish into wheely bin, you must, and this is really important, leave the lids open so that as they near full, the cats and wind can strew the mess about.

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
27/10/2009 22:35

Jeannie. On the driving bit - if the car in front of you stops, give them a blast of your horn.

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
28/10/2009 00:19

How about going for a drive and then leave your dog(s) behind? Even better if it has or about to have puppies. Especially welcome in ex pat enclaves where such generosity is welcomed. This gives endless hours of fun for the said ex pats who love to form clubs (aka animal welfare).

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
28/10/2009 07:58

Message1

I was just pointing out that the Cypriots are not the only ones dropping litter.

Where do people put their rubbish if the refuse collectors don't or can't get down their street? They dump it where they can!

Yes the Cypriots are a nightmare with their dumping policy but until the government or the police start fining everyone for this there is no near solution.

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
28/10/2009 12:04

Jeannie, have you been practising your queue-jumping technique? Try it in the bank, or at a bar!

Queen180


Joined: 13/04/2009
Posts: 399

Message Posted:
28/10/2009 19:03

Jeannie - Mess 35 - certainly made me chuckle but you forgot to mention the shades and ghettoblaster!

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
28/10/2009 20:57

Hi all.

kaiserphil - no; unfortunately not, as am currently in UK and it tends not to go down too well here, but I suppose I could always make a start. I'll pop into the bank tomorrow for a 'trial run', after all, practice makes perfect.

Queen180 - glad you got a chuckle out of my observations. Something else I forgot to mention, but did post it on another thread, and that was drawing attention to the (lack of) use of INDICATORS! Yes, those little blinking lights on the front and rear of cars. I certainly advised that the use of these should be kept to an absolute minimum - keeps other drivers on their toes. I will be investing in a huge pair of wrap-around shades in time for my next visit and will definitely be looking into ghettoblasters - don't know how they slipped my mind, but, as I said, so much to learn



J

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
29/10/2009 00:34

You could find a cafe, preferably right next to the busiest, noisiest road in town and sit and watch people driving round in circles.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
29/10/2009 10:51

Hector - thanks for that, but I have already done this 'part'. That was the main reason I said about driving around with your right elbow hanging out of the window. All the males do it; Fascinating



J