Why not get TESOL Courses?

charb


Joined: 17/03/2009
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Message Posted:
28/10/2009 12:16

Do you know how much an ELT teacher makes a month from private tutoring in TRNC? Here is the data, start calculating; 300 TL per student per month, (at least) 5 students in a group, 1,5 hours of tutoring per week... No, not miscalculated; 1500 TL per month per group.

So why not get a TESOL certificate and start private tutoring? You will be a certified teacher, and you already are a native speaker! What else can a parent ask for?

Please e-mail me if you are interested and need further details.

snydalecyps


Joined: 03/07/2008
Posts: 108

Message Posted:
28/10/2009 13:43

Hi, can you phone me on 0533 8445398 thanks I am interested

ClaireCat44



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Message Posted:
28/10/2009 14:53

You make it sound SO easy. I think you might have left some vital information out of your post! ie. payable tax? legality/work permit? finding the students in this economic climate? the cost of the original TEFL course (on the South)? experience? ... to mention a few!

charb


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Posts: 188

Message Posted:
28/10/2009 16:30

Msg 3 ClaireCat44:

Payable tax, legal / illegal => none. No one pays tax for private tutoring. Even the teachers on state schools do it without paying any tax, yet it's illegal for them. In my opinion, it's no problem as I have been doing it for years here in TRNC.

finding students => You can not imagine how much demand there is for English lessons, both students and adults. But, yes, people will not be queuing in front of your door. The best way is to invest in advertisement in KIBRIS newspaper, for example. You can start with one group and by time your reputation will be spread.

Another option is to start teaching full time in a private school here. You will earn less than private tutoring, but everyhting is legal and you won't have to worry about finding students.

Msg 2 snydalecyps: I will get back to you ASAP

charb


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Posts: 188

Message Posted:
28/10/2009 16:42

You may visit the following site for more info, as we are the representative of TEFL Cyprus. Please keep in mind that courses will be held in North Cyprus.

http://www.teflcyprus.com/

AlexF065


Joined: 07/09/2009
Posts: 271

Message Posted:
28/10/2009 17:40

I would be interested in a mix of private college and private tutoring would that be allowed?

Alex

charb


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Message Posted:
28/10/2009 18:34

If you don't do private tutoring to your own students, then probably yes.

AlexF065


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Message Posted:
28/10/2009 18:48

Are the majority of the private schools & students in the south?

or can one teach at a private school in the south and have private students from the north?

Cyprusactive


Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 128

Message Posted:
28/10/2009 21:29

Do you mean to say that a student would pay 300TL for 6 hours tuition, so that is 50TL for a 1,5 hour session? Is that realistic?

charb


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Posts: 188

Message Posted:
29/10/2009 02:21

AlexF065 I don't know about the south.

Cyprusactive, yes, students pay this amount. Is that realistic? I don't think so, but this is the market.

NatAless



Joined: 31/03/2009
Posts: 789

Message Posted:
29/10/2009 07:24

I used to know it as TEFOL= Teaching English as a foreign language & yes students to pay up to 60 tl for an hour, I know a Turkish teacher here that charges that for private one to one lessons!

As far as finding students for English, there must be a notice board at the GAU, plenty of foreign and mainland Turkish students there that need to brush up on their English as lessons are all in English, the main point everyone has missed out, is all the preparation & lesson planning that goes into teaching, I know as I used to teach in Italy when I lived there years ago, to businessmen in companies and private language schools too, as a native I did always get a higher wage that non native speakers but it's not the kind of job where you finish at 5pm & can go to the pub and forget all about it, this is the thing to remember!!!



Here I do some conversation lessons only for people who just want to practice speaking English but I do not charge anywhere near 50 tl an hour, if you charge a lower

NatAless



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Message Posted:
29/10/2009 07:25

(contd) rate you will get happy students that come regularily and dont cancel lessons as often and their expectations will also be lower so you dont need to use up so much free time lesson planning.

Natx

Pixie


Joined: 18/03/2009
Posts: 489

Message Posted:
29/10/2009 08:49

It is not as easy as you make out charb.I wish it were so.



Ive been in Cyprus for a year and I have been commuting to Istanbul once a week to teach my students because I was only able to find 5 students in Cyprus. I took out 5 big ads in the KIBRIS paper to which I had no reply.



The simple fact is the market is cornered by the teachers who are charging 300 tl+ per month and doing the big groups. Also other teachers from state schools form their own groups. Its virtually impossible for an outsider to get students. If you do get students its from word of mouth or family and friends- and there is no way you will be eraning even a fraction of the money thats been thrown around on here.People are only willing to send their kids to popular teachers.



Im earning 150 tl per hour in Istanbul+all my expenses including plane ticket, am a native speaker of English and a graduate of the best university in Istanbul, but that counts for zilch here.

Pixie


Joined: 18/03/2009
Posts: 489

Message Posted:
29/10/2009 08:52

Its not so easy to round up the students, especially if you don't have teaching experience.



But I'm certainly interested in doing courses and workshops, but I don't have the expectation that with a one month certificate I can get dozens of students. It simply doesnt work that way.

ajaney


Joined: 24/12/2008
Posts: 199

Message Posted:
29/10/2009 10:42

Re message 5. Have looked at the website and see that the course on website is based in Limassol. You are saying the course is in North Cyprus - whereabouts does it take place?

siggyyyy


Joined: 04/09/2009
Posts: 179

Message Posted:
29/10/2009 14:23

What does TESOL stand for. I only know what TEFOL stands for. Are they the same course and with the same

recognition.

ClaireCat44



Joined: 17/09/2008
Posts: 739

Message Posted:
29/10/2009 14:52

I taught English in istanbul for 8 years and I am in my eighth year of teaching here in North Cyprus so I have a fair understanding of the system! I work in Lefkosa and also have private students but I would like to make the point that it is not as easy as claimed in message one. However, if anyone does decide to take up teaching, I wish them the best. We are always looking for qualified native teachers.

finchy


Joined: 08/04/2008
Posts: 86

Message Posted:
29/10/2009 15:00

My wife is currently in TRNC so I'm glad she hasn't got access to the internet to see this topic, as any opportunity to be in the TRNC full time then she would jump at the chance.



She is fully qualified TEFL and used to take evening classes at Oldham college to students from all over the world. She's now a Science teacher/head of year at a school in Manchester so hasn't got the time for TEFL.



From what I recall, the TEFL course that she took was very demanding and much longer than the 20hours stated at some places.



The problem is 'Teaching skills', you either have them or you don't.

settledhere


Joined: 29/01/2008
Posts: 245

Message Posted:
29/10/2009 19:52

Just to let you know there are Cambridge ESOL courses for Teachers at Argun Asikoglu Dershanesi ltd in Girne. The number to call for detais is 0392 815 94 52 or fax 0392 815 94 53. The next course starts 14th of November and runs every saturday untill May 2010.

charb


Joined: 17/03/2009
Posts: 188

Message Posted:
01/11/2009 03:54

Pixie: Are you employed here? If not, are you interested in teaching general english courses to adults in Nicosia?

Pixie


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Posts: 489

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 08:40

Argun Asikoglu is charging 2500 euros for a celtyl course. Its part time on a saturday for 6 months. Anyone know of something cheaper? It seems a bit pricey to me.

spanna


Joined: 12/01/2009
Posts: 544

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 15:04

TESOL simply stands for Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages. There are numerous abbreviations, all which mean much the same thing. I am a qualified TESOL/TEFL teacher and also a fully UK qualified teacher with an M(Ed) and numerous years experience in both mainstream and special Education in the UK. Additionally, I have TEFL experience both here and in South East Asia, and even then, as others have suggested, getting work here isn't as straight forward as it is made to appear.



I would strongly advise against teaching without a work permit in NC, particularly if you have assets here. Illegal workers, if discovered, are not treated kindly! It only takes one person with a grudge to make life pretty complicated!



The full TEFL certificate, as Finchy stated, is exceptionally demanding and I have to say, IMHO, I think anything less than the 6 week full time option is going to provide you with little preparation or resources needed for real teaching.

Pixie


Joined: 18/03/2009
Posts: 489

Message Posted:
13/07/2010 15:34

I agree with Finchy,

on the other hand I find that most teachers attending these courses are looking for a workshop where they get to hone their skills and also get a certificate along with it. The celtyl alone is not enough to get a job in any market, in most countries a university diploma and celta are enough, but in cyprus you need a pgce.

I am interested in doing the celtyl but the price seems expensive. Does anyone else know of any courses on the turkish or greek side that are cheaper?