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spondoolics


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02/11/2009 16:02

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Lots inuendo ref Lawers being crooks, allied with builders remortgaging, not illegal in a lot of countries. Nothing as yet proven - as far as corrupt lawyers concerned. To save me travelling back and forth during build of my new villa and construction of a second as an investment I have gave my Lawer P of A to buy and sell. I take people on face value, maybe a weakness of mine, and not what appears on forums like this. It seems to me a lot of axes to grind. I appreciate there are genuine problems with lots of gossip thrown in. He seems genuine and highly thought of by lots of people I talked to. If someone with a lot more experience than me regarding TRNC Law can posotively advise I have made a mistake with P of A, without the rumour machine kicking in. I welcome comments. I understand that those lucky enough to have Kocan and registered properties in Property Office are more or less safe.

Not withstanding the legal pit falls with property disputes both sides of the divide. Orams etc



Molly


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02/11/2009 16:08

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You don't mention who you have given POA to - that can make the world of difference!!



Mindy



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02/11/2009 16:17

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Spondoolics said she has given POA to her lawyer.



Molly


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02/11/2009 16:49

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You missed the point - there are good ones and some who would sell their grandmother.



karakum5c



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02/11/2009 17:12

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If your lawyer is a crook they dont need a POA to give you a good rogering do they !



newlad



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02/11/2009 17:22

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http://www.buy-cyprus-property.co.uk/articles/certification-of-a-power-of-attorney.php



This may be useful,

Paul.



Tenakoutou



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02/11/2009 18:41

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Spondoolics/Msg 1:



Has this trustworthy 'lawyer' suggested you put your properties in his trust fund, too?!



Brinsley


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02/11/2009 19:00

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'TRUST fund'?! You are joking, I hope? More like a BMW fund!



Richard



spondoolics


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02/11/2009 19:10

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Newlad, Many thanks. A very usefull down load, and after reading it a few times I have to say all the directions viz a viz certification was carried out. Thanks for your reply.



Tenakatou/Karakum5c: Sounds like you had a misfortune along on the way. why else the sarcasm. If so, I understand your comments.



Mindy: For the record. I am male. Single and unlike the modern idiom, never found my feminine side. Possible why no one will have me.



Molly: Didn,t dare say who it is. After reading the replies from the keyboard doom and gloom merchants I would be hitting the bottle. As I have previously said, my choice, my cock up, the buck stops here.



Good Luck to all ref Kocans, parcelisation, regestration etc.



Within 18 months TRNC will be the place to be.



Bill



newlad



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02/11/2009 20:00

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No probs Bill, i admire your optimism,

Paul.



nastacia


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02/11/2009 23:27

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http://www.buy-cyprus-property.co.uk/articles/certification-of-a-power-of-attorney.php



This link is for the ROC and not TRNC



spondoolics


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03/11/2009 16:14

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As ROC and TRNC are both deemed to be in the EU, I have to assume that Laws concerning POA are equal. And the Registration as laid down in the ROC download was carried out as written, am happy. Incidentally, hate repeating my self, ROC does not exist and TRNC has as much right to title as ROC has to its title.



Quote:"Although the Republic of Cyprus as described in the 1959 agreements is no longer there, Greek Cypriots continue to enjoy this title and international recognition while the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, a fully democratic government representing Turkish Cypriots, still suffers under an unfair political and economic blockade."



Not stiring things up, just stating a fact.



Geejay


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03/11/2009 18:11

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spondoolics,

It's quite normal to give a POA to your lawyer when buying property, as long as it's limited to that purchase/sale. How else can you manage the legalities from a distance ?

However don't kid yourself. Lawyers here do not recognise that they have a duty of care. Nor do they believe that they should volunteer information. You have to ask the right questions.

Your assumption is incorrect. The laws in the ROC and TRNC are not the same. Although both are in the EC the aquis communitaire has been suspended here. The TRNC government does not accept the EC views for any laws that it makes !



Geejay


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03/11/2009 18:53

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spondoolics,

It doesn't matter what you believe, assume, think as "facts" or where you obtained that "quote". The real fact is that only the ROC is recognised by the UN and EC. That includes the north. To them the TRNC government itself is illegal. Only the (communistic) government in the south is recognised.

It may seem unfair or illogical but that is the fact of the matter. Even the two MEP places allocated for Turkish Cypriots are filled by Greek Cypriots.



Aga Buyers A G


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Message Posted:
03/11/2009 19:00

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what an appropriate posting eh Richard.....lolol



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Tenakoutou



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03/11/2009 19:04

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Hey, Spondoolics - not one scrap of sarcasm intended, I assure you.



spondoolics


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03/11/2009 19:39

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Geejay, We seem to agree that a POA is required when procedures are carried out remotely. Protocol 10 of the Aquis was suspended because ROC would not be legaly responsible for actions in the North outside their jurisdiction. I accept that had to be done. However, when they deemed the time was right to reinvest in Protocol 10 they wasted no time in having it reinstated to their advantage, again, you cannot blame them for doing so. This caused a divide between peoples and governments to grow, to no ones advantage. The only people who gained from it are the divisionists, rife on both sides. As for Lawer Duty of Care, both sides of the divide are bad as each other. I spent some time in RoC on holiday and visiting friends, lots of horror stories their. I would state without question on Cyprus you need to do a lot of research and investigation before committing yourself North or South. Not only Cyprus. Spain, Portugal, Turkey, France - everywhere. And be prepared for possible consequences.



scruff


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Message Posted:
03/11/2009 19:52

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re. message 1

You seem to have already made up your mind about POA. I'm wondering, therefore, why you asked the original question?



spondoolics


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Message Posted:
04/11/2009 13:58

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scruff: New at this game, POA, Lawers, Agents, Builders etc. You are quite right, I had come to my own decisions, with consequences good or bad. I also acknowledge that forum dwellers have some good, concise and neutral advise gained through experience. Others have had a bad time of it all, going by past and current input. It,s a fool who thinks he knows it all and has nothing to learn. The majority of members use the forum for what it is, a tool to hopefuly assistant those seeking advice.



Tenakoutou: Not intended as a personal comment. So many people disappointed with TRNC ongoing problems, mistakenly assumed you were one of them. Hope all going well for you.



Bill



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