Bar 11 Catolkoy

Joe Blob


Joined: 11/05/2008
Posts: 12


Message Posted:
11/05/2008 16:17

Only just joined, felt i needed to give the facts about the Elvis night in question, it was not 1 00 AM it was 12 30 the music wasnt that loud i was sat on the stage with friends ,it was an excellent night.I think the breeze was just in the wrong direction ,we live in Girne somtimes you hear certain bars somtimes you dont. Why dont you all get off your computors, and enjoy what you came here for, enjoy the beaches, the life etc. etc. And go to bar 11 , an incredible mix of Cypriots and Us, ( I will not use the word ex pat) in case it labels me as whinger.Why do you think you can come here and dictate to people,we are guests (very lucky ones )When the teacher from the GAU was moaning to the pupils about the noise from bar 11, she asked him why did you move to a holiday island sir? I think a reasonable question from a young child. You really are getting us a stinking reputation for moaning and whinging, you must have far too much time on your hands. Just get on with your lives mine was almost taken from me and my God does that change your outlook. The other option is go back to the UK and see how much youd have to moan about ,youd be on your laptops 24/7

gottheyips


Joined: 28/12/2007
Posts: 164


Message Posted:
11/05/2008 18:36

Well said Dougie.

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 349


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 10:17

Joe Blob,



I beg to differ about the first night, Friday 25th April. At 12.45am, on the 26th April I was watching a neighbour having words with the owner and "Elvis" announcing this was the final song. It was then some 30 minutes later that I posted my original complaint about the noise on this message board, whilst my neighbour wrote to complain about the noise on another message board.



"Why dont you all get off your computors, and enjoy what you came here for," I would love to. We moved to Catalkoy because it was quite and under developed. Long days by the pool, drinking Martinis, reading the the latest number one best seller, socialising with friends in the evening at pleasant drinking venues where conversation and laughter fill the air; what a dream. But that bubble burt for us when paying through the nose for basic items started to get out of reach. I never planned on getting a job again, and that living off the interest from the bank would be enough, but it wasn't. So as we still enjoyed the island we stayed on.



Now with Bar 11 on the doorstep, opening up because it could, getting a late licence because it could, and the neighbours having no say in it happening; then that just stinks. In the UK it just doesn't happen, and the rest of the civilised world. The local council is obliged by law to seek out the views of the neighbours before any licence is granted to any business. Here, no such law exists and, as far as I see, its how much you grease the palm of the local Muhtar that counts. If I wanted noise and racket then I would have gone to Lapta and Karsiyaka, or even stayed in the UK.



The TRNC wihes to be more European and introduces laws based on EU or UK law. Good for them. Let them just get some of these laws that protect the rights of the individual onto their statue books before it is to late and all the foreign cash cows have uped and left.



Nobody is "dictating" to the locals what to do, in fact it is the locals who dictate to us. There attitude to unreasonable behaviour is "go away, if you don't like it leave." What they don't realise is that they already have us and we should be looked after, for one day, when we have all returned to the UK, with their attitude there will be no more people here that they can take for granted and they will suffer as they have finally killed the fatted calf and times will be lean.



As for North Cyprus being a holiday island, then we must cater for the what the majority of its residents want. That I believe is peace and quiet and a restful time. If you want noise and racket then it is well catered for in Ayia Napa or Alsancak. Remember, the grey haired brigade and dual income no kids have the most disposible income, and that is what we need here; foreign money by the bucket load. We need to encourage these people and have rules and regulations in place to support them and ensure that they get the same fair treatment as locals. One rule for one and another rule for aliens, is not a good way to proceed.

Once you end up with mum, dad and 2 kids in tow on a budget of nothing, standards will slip here to that lowest common denominator, and we will be the next Ayia Napa or Costa Del Sol. North Cyprus is more than that, and needs to be, for those seeking a little sanctuary in the sun, so that its handle of "Jewel in the Mediterranean" cannot be tarnished forever.

tufty


Joined: 03/05/2008
Posts: 28


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 16:42

TC



You refer to the local Muhtar in your message are you trying to imply that honourable people are on the take again you have put somthing in black and white that could get you in serious trouble if somebody were to take your comments further



If i wanted complete and utter peace and tranquility i would NOT have bought a house within 10 miles of Girne as we have all seen in the uk once the urban sprawl starts it is impossible to say where it will stop and with it comes what 95% of the human race enjoys Bars and Resteraunts, I would go and live in the mountains or up the Karpaz then i would be able to read my best seller without distraction but maybe then the wildlife would cause a problem



We are Mum,Dad and 3 kids and only on a small budget (10% of what we were used to in the UK) and things do have to be sacrifised but we wouldnt change our situation as the quality of life far outwieghs any type of life in the UK

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 1094


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 16:50

"We are Mum,Dad and 3 kids and only on a small budget (10% of what we were used to in the UK) and things do have to be sacrifised but we wouldnt change our situation as the quality of life far outwieghs any type of life in the UK"



Yes so are we we are not dead and like a good time let them that do not like any kind of social activity move to outer mongolia .lol

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 1405


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 18:09

Hi All,



Ensdhrined in British law is the fact that if you meet all the criteria demanded of you within

that legal document, that you are then "ENTITLED TO THE QUIET ENJOYMENT OF THAT PROPERTY"



Now I enjoy a good night out with many beers, but I do not do it at the expense of other peace loving individuals. Timothy has made his case quietly and politely within the law, and as such deserves, at least courtesy and considerstion. Some of these postings disregard common courtesy, which in my opinion should be afforded to everyoned.



If you were in the same situation, with a young family, I am sure that YOU would put their wellbeing first.Please let this family enjoy the joys and beauty of the TRNC.



wynyardman

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 349


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 20:09

When I visited the Muhtar for a letter of residency, before handing over the document he asked me to "show my gratitude" for the service. I had no change, and thankfully at the time the largest note available was a 20,000,000 Lira note, but he gladly accepted it but refused to issue a receipt, saying "it really was not necassary." My neighbour had paid 10,000,000 Lira not 24 hours before and also had not got a receipt. I'm just glad that I don't need his services anymore, as no doubt 100YTL would go changeless too.



The same scenario happened when we imported our goods, but this time I ensured I had small enough notes.



After speaking with several locals I discovered that the Muhtar did the job as a hobby, a service to the community, a volunteer. When they found out how much I had paid they were astonished.



Every penny he gets goes into his pocket. No taxes are paid on it. If that's not CORRUPTION what is?



Muhtar's are an outdated Ottoman idea. A throw back to when times were different and they could weild power in the village. Even today, their permission needs to be sought for anyhting to happen within the village limits. With todays modern governments they should be kept more in keeping with a modern society.



So I assume tufty you are, so far, lucky in that your home hasn't been blighted by developments that have sprung up around you. One day you will be then you will understand our dilemma.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 1405


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 20:24

Timothy,



How much was that in English? God help us!

I am really shocked. Am i naive?

I hope that the muktar of Esentepe isn't standing there with his hand out. By the time my villa is finished, he will have cramp in his wrist!

Even then at that point he will have to wait for my short arms to delve into my deep pockets.

I hope that his pension is paid up!

wynyardman

Joe Blob


Joined: 11/05/2008
Posts: 12


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 20:43

Hello T. C., a very constructive reply , but you sound very angry with the TRNC, almost as angry as I was with the UK. Inflation is a worldwide problem,I do not find basic essentials expensive, could you buy organic veg, salad, fruit, possibly the finest bread in the world in UK , like you can here, I think you would have a shock, if you went shopping there. We eat and drink very well on a low budget, Do you think greasing palms does not go on in the UK, every goverment in the world is corrupt, every council rips us off,and plenty of officials in GREAT BENEFITS, sorry spelt Britain wrong, I beleive they have it right here, look after your own first, Just look at whats happened in our country, what am I talking about we dont have a country anymore, this excuse for a goverment has seen to that. Dont you think that we should have been put first in what was our country I do. Interest Rates We get 17% before 8% tax is deducted from the interest only, some people have gone for 21% But thats pretty high risk stuff. Why do we want EU rules here,I for one dont, but i tell you what would be nice here Moms and Dads with 2 kids and to see the kids playing out like we could when we were young before England turned into the cespit of the world. I was in Bar 11 the other night the place that got us talking to each other, a lady left her handbag, guess what she came back 20 mins later and it was still hanging on the back of her chair, surely this sort of thing is important .

Lincsman


Joined: 02/04/2008
Posts: 48


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 20:45

To Timothy Cadman did I miss something? In your earlier posting you compared Alsancak to Ayia Napa surely they are not comparable

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 1405


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 20:52

Hi Joe Blob,



Very nice, constructive posting on behalf of the TRNC.



Why then do you wish to see this idyll spoilt by what can only be described as antisocial behavoir!



Time for a reality check.!



wyn

Joe Blob


Joined: 11/05/2008
Posts: 12


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 22:38

Yes Wynyardman, on behalf of the TRNC because thats where we have chosen to live, I wish I could wake up tomorrow with Cypriot blood runnining through my viens and a TRNC passport, Have you heard the saying WHEN IN ROME -----------------etc try integrating,and leave your expat ideas where they belong, in the Ar----le 0f a country that we have left behind. Why are you people here? This is not England (THANK GOD) May be you should move back there tell them your seeking asylum because you are being tortured by music and Karaoke singers , and rising prices, they will probably give you a free house and a voucher for a car, and a free landline, and income support for all your family and go to the local Asda and see them all in there with their shopping vouchers, probably coming out of the taxes and VAT over a million pound of mine that i have paid into the system in th last 25 years and am still contributing in excess of £100K per year and i cant even claim incapacity benefit that i am entitled to, because i spend more than 6 months away from the UK, sorry my friend i dont need a reality check I had one thats why i came here, But ill tell you one thing ,I think a few of you need a check up from the neck up, Do you not realise this is the TRNC, its not England Why dont you just try to enjoy your life here and make the most of what you have here.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 655


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 22:53

Your serve John,

Regards,

Paul.

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 349


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 05:51

The UK is not the easy land of "dreams come true". Half a million of the 1 million recent immigrants have returned to their home countries, not because they've filled their pockets but because they couldn't survive.



At least in the UK there is social security to help you survive. Here if you can't afford to live there is no help. For the past 3 years I've paid my Social Security and Taxes of 150YTL a month and so has my employer paid their part. What benefit can I get, nothing until I'm 65 then I can claim a pension which will be a pittance. No work, no income, there's nothing the local government wants to do here. It's a case of "go back to where you were born, let them help you." At least being a UK Citizen I will always have the right to return and seek help and recieve it.



Joe, you said you hope that the TRNC doesn't bring in EU rules. Well one day they want to be members of that great club, sitting along side the South or in there own right. EU rules of Hygiene in Business, Fuel Regulations and Dispensing of, Road Markings are already enforced, no doubt with many others that I am unaware of.



Organic food is available here and at very good prices compared to those in the UK. But it comes at a cost, continuous availability. I enjoy Jacket Potatoes. For the next few weeks I'm unlikely to get any of reasonable size to enjoy. When EU regulations on Food Quality arrive then the rejects that we have will cease and prices will rocket. The EU is on its way, when I'm not sure but it will arrive.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 1568


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 07:25

hi timothy , surely you thoroughly researched all the points you have stated , before you made the informed choice of moving there , its a big decision moving all your family ,its a different country and lives are lived in a different way , we must all except the differences with grace , after all we are guests in their country , on the finance side , no doubt you allowed for inflation ect if not why not , from your post you sound so negative , but if you are happy to stay there as you say you are , then you need to be a bit more positive or you will only make yourself and your family miserable , and what does it matter about the size of potatoes , at least you have food that you can eat , there are people in this world who are starving ,

have a good day , simbas

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 1405


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 07:44

newlab,



See billybob posting, "This board is getting very bitter"



I rest my case.



wynyardman

Murales


Joined: 15/01/2008
Posts: 8


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 07:48

Hi TC, If you are working and paying all of your taxes, you are entitled free health care from the nationbal hospital for you and your family, and discounted medecines. Also in the event that you loose your job, you could also claim unemployment benefit. (Civilised enough for you??)

Before a licence is issued for a bar, a notice must be put in the local cafe or Supermarket. If anyone has objections they must tell the local council. Maybe you never saw this notice?

AndyP



Joined: 18/04/2008
Posts: 87


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 08:01

Got points made by Joe Blob messages 9 and 12.



Cant add anymore to that other than go back if you are not happy. No one is holding a gun to your head. Well not yet but the locals might one day if you upset them enough. Believe me, I know an english guy that was over here and upset a few people by moaning about houses. Lets put it this way, he and his family had to leave very quickly. Say no more.



Remember this is their country not ours. Blend in.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 1405


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 08:11

Hi Joe Blob,



We chose the TRNC for the sheer beauty of the place, the wild flowers, the culture. We bought a villa at Esentepe because it was an uncommercialised part of this beautiful coastline.



I am a UK citizen, I also pay substantial amounts of tax, and have done so for many years. I have NEVER been a beneficiary of The Social Security System in the UK I like many despair at the Government currently in power, but I value my democratic vote when the time comes, I shall exercise it.



Now then the point at issue. I supported Timothys right to have "the quiet enjoyment of his property" For his children to have a good nights sleep, and for he and his family to enjoy the

true beauty of the TRNC. Loud music into the early hours is pollution, hence the fact it is

regulated. If the neighbours views were not taken into account, then it is not a fair and democratic process.



I feel that if we took a vote on this board as to why people come to live or holiday in the TRNC, it would be overwhelmingly in favour of the points I listed above.



wynyardman

Murales


Joined: 15/01/2008
Posts: 8


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 08:22

wynyardman, all of of points that you have stated are valid and very true. However, the TRNC is a democractic society, and the point that I was trying to make earlier was that there are rules and regulations about licences and if BAR 11 has got a licence the local community would have been advised by the means of a notice been placed in a public place for (I think) a 14 day period. This would of ensured any objections from the local community been heard at the local council. And the licence proposal accepted or declined.

Joe Blob


Joined: 11/05/2008
Posts: 12


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 08:33

Tim, try having two smaller jacket potatoes, Ihave seen large spuds this week in several supermarkets and veg stores,and you refer to the rejects that we have here ! I dont know where you live or shop but you must be on adifferent island to us and all of the other dozens of well fed people here, Why should we be entitled to claim from TRNC , system, I dont know where you came from in the UK but it must have been some tranquil paradise, I have friends here, from places in Devon and Cornwall where life used to be different, and they tell me that now it as totally changed and thats why they are here. I must say, and this is not meant with any disrespect whatsoever, but I dont think you want to be here, didnt you have any idea what to expect before you came, Most of us have also paid lots of funds into the UK system, is there still going to be a pension pot left when we get to retiement age, anyway at least ive got you off Bar 11 for a few days, Yes Turkey will probably eventually join the EU and that will be the start of the rot , We could be on this subject forever, and get nowhere, As I said earlier with all due respect any of you who are so dissatisfied with life here should try to get back to the UK, Otherwise accept that you are in another country ,try to adjust and go with the flow,

tufty


Joined: 03/05/2008
Posts: 28


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 08:37

I am very pleased there is no social secutity on this part of the island can you imagine what might happen if there was the rest of the world would hear about it and it would be like the UK full of immigrants looking for a free house and a weekly hand out then we would have somthing to complain about



TC i got a letter from the muhtar yesterday to renew my residency and i gave him a crisp 20ytl note the stamps he used to authenticate the document were 5ytl i have always been a great beleiver in giving drinks to people who help me in life he ended up with 15 ytl which would equate to 2 nice bottles of Angora wine, without these people we could not live on this island good luck to them

It is possible to make goergeous jacket spuds with small potatoes its all in the cooking

Kitty1



Joined: 15/03/2007
Posts: 256


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 09:09

I am not getting involved in the nitty-gritty of this thread, but I will say one thing...in TC's defence, I also lived very close to Bar 11 when it was being built and when it was opening. I never saw any such notice in the local supermarkets and so would have no idea that such licence was being sought. We actually lived at the end of the development quite near Hz Omer Turbesi there and we could frequently hear the Fez, so I am sure we would now be having similar issues with Bar 11 were we still living there.



I now live on a very quiet area of Catalkoy in a house we recently purchased. Me and my husband both work full time, and enjoy going out for to eat, drink, be entertained as much as the next person. But we bought our property because we also greatly value peace and tranquility...we would be gutted if something happened near us to spoil that.



Perhaps it is time that we stop arguing this particular point and accept the fact that different folks value different things. That's what makes the human race unique. I think it is fair to say that for the most part, we all love this country and our reasons for loving it would be many and varied. Sadly this island has seen enough arguing, fighting and dissent to last a lifetime, so please can't we at least have a discussion about something without it turning into a full-scale war of words?



That's all I'm saying. Thanks folks.

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 349


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 11:06

To all,



I have never asked, or demanded, that Bar 11 should be closed or never been built in the first place.



My only arguement with them is the time that their entertainment goes on till. We were not consulted on any stage about their entertainment licence. There were no notices pinned to telegraph poles, no notices pushed through our door or stuck in our letter box, or notices appearing in the local shops and supermarkets.



When we bought we were aware of The Fez and we even asked them about their music policy. Their policy was/is Fridays and Saturdays until 11.15pm at the latest, usually 11pm. On occassions they have extra "party nights" during the week, but once again any entertainment would be finished by 11.15pm and the bar would close at midnight. This we were happy with and bought our home. They have kept their word, and as such, frequent The Fez on warm summer evenings for a late dinner and some entertainment.



2 years after we moved into our villa Bar 11 starts to be built. OK, no problem. It's good to get some infastructure into an area that can be used by the local populous. They had a party on opening day with lots of loud music, but it was 2pm when it started and was over by 8pm. I was at work so missed most of it but did used to frequent it to watch sport on the telly and socialise with other neighbours there.



Then on Friday 25th April 2008, over 500 metres away we could plainly hear the top songs of Elvis waffting on the breeze, and a deep thud, thud, thud of the backing track. I had to be up at 7am to goto work. I know if I don't get the sleep I need I'm not my bright cheery self, and in a Customer Facing job, that is really not a good way to keep your job.



By midnight 30, some 1 hour 15 minutes after the entertainment had started, I heard my neighbours car start. I knew where he was going and decided to follow on. He was in full flow when I arrived and before I could park up he was back in his car and on his way home.



I must admit that this weekend just gone has shown a marked improvement in the sound level. Maybe the speakers on the stage have been turned, or the volume lowered but for me, and my neighbour, we were able to goto bed at 11pm and sleep, thus everyone is much happier. Maybe Bar 11 do have a conscious after all. Now if they keep it up then for me, at least, the matter is closed.

bazilbrush


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 19


Message Posted:
14/05/2008 19:01

TC Quote ; [If I wanted noise and racket then I would have gone to Lapta and Karsiyaka, or even stayed in the UK.]



Where does the loud music happen in Lapta or especially Karsiyaka, which has only one bar and is a much quiter area than Catalkoy , as I have not heard it yet. Lapta has the most strictest Belediye in Northern Cyprus and no bars carry on after 12 midnight. Alsancak has 2 clubs at the moment which do run late in the summer months but these clubs have been around a while and so you know what your buying into in this area. You must have some form of entertainment otherwise tourists get bored and for some maybe their only holiday for the year. Once this island did have a lot of older people as tourists ,but things are changing and many younger people are arriving for holidays and purchasing here now. You cant stop progress unfortunately.

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22


Message Posted:
08/06/2008 13:21

Just signed up for these forums, a lot of my customers have been telling me about the posts so i thought i would take a look, some nice ones and some i would like to put the record straight, bar11 has cost me in excess of £300,000 to achieve i had resteraunts and cafes back in the UK and have been involed in this industry for some 35 years when i started this project it was my intention to provide a place that has something for every age form a baby to a pensioner customers tell me that i have achieved my goal. I take complaints very seriously and recently we have had a few about the noise levels so i investigated them personally i will not do anything illegal and obtain all the correct licences and abide by the countries regulations i have a live music licence for Wednesday Friday and Saturday until midnight and the volume is monitered not only from inside the bar but also the surrouding area on on 2 occasions a chap came into the bar demandind we close the bar when asked where he lived he replied a little higher up the roas from the Fez myself and 2 members of staff invited him to take a walk back towards his home so we could listen to the noise levels and guess what once we had crossed the main road all we could hear was traffic noise, looking at the size of this guy his walk was not wasted as he looked like he could do with plenty of exersize. we do get regular visits from the police due to peoples complaints and after they have checked the licence and monitered the noise levels they go away quite happy, because i value my customers greatly i have purchased a 16 seater minibus to provide a pickup and dropoff service this sevice is being used by many customers i hate the thought of somebody losing there licence or worse because they have been drinking alchohol supplied by me so it is the least i can do to ensure they get home safely now on to lighter things we are showing every euro 2008 match in the gardens on the big screen, we show every F1 race as our music man is a big fan, Wednesday nights we have live Turkish music, Thursday is BINGO and we have 5600ytl up for grabs, Friday is karaoke and Saturday is Live Brits night, we have a very succesful darts team 2 pool teams playing on Tuesdays and a 7 a side foot ball team, Monday is a pool knockout competition with all welcome Sunday is my favorite day where we all chill out and recharge our batteries with a good old Sunday lunch We are forming a golf society and have got some fantastic rates from Korinium any body wishing to join please call the number below ohh i nearly forgot we also have an internet cafe offering all the usual services including cheap world wide phone call should anybody wish to complain or book meals or parties please call on 05428845050 or call in and see us at the bar you will be more than welcome and i must say thank you to all our customers for your support



Reg

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22


Message Posted:
12/06/2008 19:04

Tonight at bar 11 Bingo with 4600ytl in prise money Friday Karaoke come and join in the fun Saturday live on stage Funky Monkey eveybody more than welcome

rcroton


Joined: 05/06/2008
Posts: 53


Message Posted:
13/06/2008 07:00

Reg,



that sounds great will all this be going on over summer? I live up at the top of Catalkoy past the dedeman olive tree. Have to bring my darts and take a few people on!!



Good idea about the minibus



Rich

Barrovian1



Joined: 16/11/2007
Posts: 93


Message Posted:
13/06/2008 10:30

Hi Reg

Regarding your "good old Sunday lunch". How about you use fresh veg, instead of the tinned variety.



Bob.

Hot Hornet



Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 295


Message Posted:
13/06/2008 10:52

thanks for the 'ad' - least I know which nights not to bother with "Friday is karaoke and Saturday is Live Brits night"!!!!

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 1094


Message Posted:
13/06/2008 11:06

Whats thursdays ?



Dead donkey night.

Hot Hornet



Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 295


Message Posted:
13/06/2008 11:29

what you upset about now? as before, be careful what you write.

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22


Message Posted:
13/06/2008 11:38

Rich



You will be most welcome we are not just a summer bar we are open 365 days a year from 11am we are having a web site constructed which will enable us to keep evertbody up to date with forth coming events i will post the address on this board once it is finished



Lots of people at last nights bingo all trying to win the snowball prize of 3000ytl it is still in my pocket next week we are at 43 numbers congrats to the people who won last night 1600ytl was won by our customers



Karaoke tonight come and join in the fun and give us a song



Hope to see you soon

Reg

old dog


Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 4


Message Posted:
13/06/2008 11:45

Sitting at home listening to the bingo. Only 2 problems 1). I don't like bingo.

2). I live 3kms from Bar 11 so why can I hear It? Oh I think it's just finished - peace. Really looking forward to Fridays' Karaoke and Funkey Monkey on Saturday. DEEP JOY!!

JulieSmith


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 6


Message Posted:
13/06/2008 11:53

Reg.

Went there on Wednesday. NO ELVIS .NO LIVE ENGLISH MUSIC. There was a Turkish Male Singer. I asked someone at the Bar, were is ELVIS ( Gary Fisher )

he said we gave him the sack as he is shit. We replaced him with this Gay Singer. So if Wednesday is Gay Night please advertise it we were very disappointed with your false advertising.

Regarding this BINGO, could you please tell us how much you have donated to Duzkaya Football club or have you pocketed all the money.

Kitty1



Joined: 15/03/2007
Posts: 256


Message Posted:
13/06/2008 12:12

HH...Brit Night might not ordinarily appeal to you but this Saturday is Funky Monkey, and I know you are a fan - just thought I'd mention it xx

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22


Message Posted:
13/06/2008 16:17

Julie can you please tell me where you have seen the advert for elvis on a wednesday night we pay our advertising agent a lot of money to work on our behalf and if they have got it wrong i would like to no.

To put the record straight regarding bingo it is in fact run by Duzkaya Football club all we do is provide the venue the staff and promote it on there behalf we dont make any money from the bingo so maybe you should contact them and see if they will tell you how much they make

Who is Gary Fisher youre statement I asked someone at the Bar, were is ELVIS ( Gary Fisher )

he said we gave him the sack as he is shit. We replaced him with this Gay Singer.

To put the record straight we dont have a member of staff with this name so how could he say we gave him the sack



Reg

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 349


Message Posted:
13/06/2008 18:55

Reg,



Julie never mentioned any of your staff members by name. One, of the many Elvis impersonators in the TRNC, is Gary Fisher. She was assuming that he was your Elvis on a Wednesday night.

"Gay Singer", is not the name of a person but a description of a style of person, ie the person who was entertaining on the night appeared to a camp, gay, Turkish person. What Julie was getting at is that, will Wednesday night become a night when homosexual (gay) people meet at your bar for an evenings entertainment, drawn by the entertainer who appears to be very gay, and not as in your earlier advertising stated at the end of April and beginning of May, saying that Elvis would be appearing.



So Julie's real question should be; the Elvis impersonator you had on a Wednesday night was he sacked for being shit, as she claims to have been told by one of your employees?

slimboyfat


Joined: 01/05/2008
Posts: 26


Message Posted:
13/06/2008 20:37

"Elvis" goes under the name of Danny Fisher which was a character played by Elvis in King Creole. Danny Fisher's real name is Danny Needham.

GayJohn


Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2


Message Posted:
14/06/2008 09:00

This place sounds very exciting, were about is BAR 11, i be coming out at the begining of August with my adorable friends, specially looking forward to Wednesday Nights, meeting New friends and getting stuck in. It is the latest fashion in the U.K. for having Gay Bars, well done BAR 11 for bringing the craze over to North Cyprus.

Gay John

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 349


Message Posted:
14/06/2008 20:53

Gay John,



Bar 11 is on the Girne to Catalkoy main road behind the Stop and Shop Supermarket.



By the way John, it is still illegal here to be gay or live a gay lifesytle. Imprisonment is an option the courts have discretion to use. Please don't flaunt yourself in a highly camp way as you may well rub the wrong person up the wrong way and you could find yourself in the Lefkosa Central Prison, and that is not a nice place to be by all accounts.

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 355


Message Posted:
14/06/2008 21:55

Depends what turns you on, Lefkosa Central Prison is renowned for its M & S.



Also, why Bar 11, wot happened to the other 10?



Lem

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 01:52

Hi TC

I believe you returned to the UK how is the weather over there i take it you must be Julies spokesperson i now understand where Julie is coming from Gary Fisher should be Danny Fisher re the gay singer i would love to see somebody call him GAY to his face At bar 11 everybody is welcome (Gays Lesbian Straight Black White etc)

Hilltop



Joined: 28/04/2008
Posts: 195


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 05:20

Lem



When did the prison open an M&S? This could save my wife having to travel to the South for her knickers........Fantastic!!

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 1094


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 07:49

danny fisher GAY yea ok I have read it all now IIf he's gay then I am a diplomatic tolerant slim handsome chap with no sence of humour !

simbas



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Posts: 1568


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 08:13

is everything alright littlenige ?

regards , simbas

Chris



Joined: 26/03/2008
Posts: 437


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 08:21

This is one of the funniest threads I have read for ages!



Chris

simbas



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Posts: 1568


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 08:25

you are very easy to please chris

regards , pat

The Gov


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Posts: 22


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 11:25

TC



As you appear to be julies spokesperson can you ask her if she is a fluent turkish speaker as i only hav 1 member of staff who speaks english and that is very limited, the only other fluent english speaking person on the payroll is myself and it is not my policy to speak about peolpe i employ with customers maybe she dreamt she was talking with a member of staff.



Lemtech



Because we sponser Duzkaya foot ball team bar 11 was the obvious name as there are 11 players in a team maybe the next bar could be bar 7 as we sponser a 7 a side team or bar pool after our pool team or bar darts after the darts team what about bar rally car after our rally car i will let you know when we have decided

The Gov


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Message Posted:
15/06/2008 11:26

might call it the Gay Bar

Chris



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Posts: 437


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 11:39

Hi Simbas

Thats always been my problem!!



LOL



Chris

simbas



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Message Posted:
15/06/2008 11:43

oh , bless

Lemtich



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Posts: 355


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 14:36

Cheers Gov



Will try and drop in for a pint when I'm over with the family.



regards



Lem

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 349


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 14:43

Reg,



Yes I am happy back in the UK, away from your noisy bar. I've also noticed that since you opened 2 other properties in the vicinity to my old property have gone up for sale, one of which has sold.



The weather is ok, light showers one day, sun the next.



Within 4 weeks of returning to the UK I have 8MB Broadband Internet installed, Sky TV (without a 4 metre dish), earning 3 times what I was earning in the TRNC, driving a new car, having a huge range of foods available and spending the same amount here on food that I was in the TRNC (and the quality is a lot better). One other thing, everything is priced! Whether I am a UK Citizen or a foreigner we all pay the same, and do you know, when I tell people that there are places within the world where foreigners are fleeced for their money they are shocked, then even more when they find out just how close to Europe this type of fleecing takes place.



But if you think all I've appeared to do is run down the TRNC, then I leave you with this......I will return to the TRNC once I can retire and not have to work to survive and, after paying for a property, invest at least £150,000 in a bank account and live off the interest.

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 221


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 17:56

timothy,





we are very happy that you left north cyprus and wish you more rain, more taxes, and more of what you missed since you left - you do not respect the cypriots and their way of life, when you immigrate to a country you cannot take only the best you have to give as well to locals - money is not the only thing in life ! and who cared about your money except yourself to live on it into a country you seen to dislike so much -

Turtle



Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 210


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 18:10

Tim

You say we all pay the same in UK

I visited my brother in law in Blackpool the other week and we were in a pub and he bought the first round, it was my turn next and he said give me your money and i will get the beers in as you will pay "tourist prices" and he pays a lot less ?

We don,t all pay the same I can assure you.

PtePike


Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 698


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 21:43

Turtle,



I think the trading standards and licensing board would be keen to visit this Blackpool bar.

gottheyips


Joined: 28/12/2007
Posts: 164


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 22:10

lived for many years in the Blackpool area, prices differed in many establishments favouring locals, this was standard practice never mind trading standards.

And has been going as long as Blackpool Rock.

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 349


Message Posted:
16/06/2008 02:22

Sylvie,



Without money how do you live? Man cannot live by bread alone and school fees needed to be paid. I was under more stress in the TRNC than when I left the UK. Now I have disposible income, something that for 12 months we had not had in the TRNC.



In my 6 years in the TRNC I put into the local economy £220,000. I left with £150,000. A net loss of £70,000.



Now in the UK, I don't worry about not being able to feed myself and family or how I will pay for the electric after the kids left the Air Conditioning on all night so they could sleep. Our income didn't keep pace with the price hikes and Bar 11 put the icing on the cake when their "entertainment evenings" started at the end of April.

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22


Message Posted:
16/06/2008 09:47

TC



Reading your threads i dont think the under lying problem for leaving the TRNC was my bar you have obviously been contemplating this for some time i wish i could live on 11k per annum in the TRNC I still have a house in South London which only gets used about 2 months of the year and it costs me about 8k per year i dont envy you in the winter months when you have the central heating on to keep the kids warm i think over the next 12 months you will be in for a big shock and will realisethat the percentages are the same but you wont have the same weather and beuatiful surroundings

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 221


Message Posted:
16/06/2008 10:17

I dont know yet the bar 11 we are coming soon but i will go with pleasure there and make my own opinion about it - i have lots of respect about people investing their money into a business it is very couragous now-a-day because time is hard everywhere - i am self-rmployed myself i know what it means !!!



to you TC ,



when you say you left 11K a year in UK don't forget to tell you put your money into high interest bank whick provide you a comfortable income -if i know how to calculate with the interests you spend 0 and you got the sunshine free !!! about aircond. we paid more for heating in europe and most probably where you live than for aircond - what about council tax ? when european people made the choice of moving to an other country there is always a financial interest of course, because money is necessary but it is not the only reason - in some posts i read that insecurity, weather and other way of life were important !!!

i wish i could stay in beautiful girne i would never deny such a place - if i start one day to think about it - i won't come anymore !!!

anyway i am sure cypriots wont miss you -

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 221


Message Posted:
16/06/2008 10:23

TC,



how can you say it is illegal to be gay in cyprus, it is not !!! my husband tells me he never heard anything like that - show me the law article - there are gays, lesbians, black, jews,..... and no discrimination - less than in europe i can assure you -

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 1568


Message Posted:
16/06/2008 10:43

hi sylvie you are right , in 2006 northern cyprus was set to decriminalise homosexuality bringing it in line with the eu laws of human rights , before 2006 homosexuality was regarded as a crime against nature , not only in northern cyprus but most islamic countries ,

have a good day , simbas

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