Bar 11 Catolkoy

Joe Blob


Joined: 11/05/2008
Posts: 12

Message Posted:
11/05/2008 18:17

Only just joined, felt i needed to give the facts about the Elvis night in question, it was not 1 00 AM it was 12 30 the music wasnt that loud i was sat on the stage with friends ,it was an excellent night.I think the breeze was just in the wrong direction ,we live in Girne somtimes you hear certain bars somtimes you dont. Why dont you all get off your computors, and enjoy what you came here for, enjoy the beaches, the life etc. etc. And go to bar 11 , an incredible mix of Cypriots and Us, ( I will not use the word ex pat) in case it labels me as whinger.Why do you think you can come here and dictate to people,we are guests (very lucky ones )When the teacher from the GAU was moaning to the pupils about the noise from bar 11, she asked him why did you move to a holiday island sir? I think a reasonable question from a young child. You really are getting us a stinking reputation for moaning and whinging, you must have far too much time on your hands. Just get on with your lives mine was almost taken from me and my God does that change your outlook. The other option is go back to the UK and see how much youd have to moan about ,youd be on your laptops 24/7

gottheyips


Joined: 28/12/2007
Posts: 444

Message Posted:
11/05/2008 20:36

Well said Dougie.

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 12:17

Joe Blob,



I beg to differ about the first night, Friday 25th April. At 12.45am, on the 26th April I was watching a neighbour having words with the owner and "Elvis" announcing this was the final song. It was then some 30 minutes later that I posted my original complaint about the noise on this message board, whilst my neighbour wrote to complain about the noise on another message board.



"Why dont you all get off your computors, and enjoy what you came here for," I would love to. We moved to Catalkoy because it was quite and under developed. Long days by the pool, drinking Martinis, reading the the latest number one best seller, socialising with friends in the evening at pleasant drinking venues where conversation and laughter fill the air; what a dream. But that bubble burt for us when paying through the nose for basic items started to get out of reach. I never planned on getting a job again, and that living off the interest from the bank would be enough, but it wasn't. So as we still enjoyed the island we stayed on.



Now with Bar 11 on the doorstep, opening up because it could, getting a late licence because it could, and the neighbours having no say in it happening; then that just stinks. In the UK it just doesn't happen, and the rest of the civilised world. The local council is obliged by law to seek out the views of the neighbours before any licence is granted to any business. Here, no such law exists and, as far as I see, its how much you grease the palm of the local Muhtar that counts. If I wanted noise and racket then I would have gone to Lapta and Karsiyaka, or even stayed in the UK.



The TRNC wihes to be more European and introduces laws based on EU or UK law. Good for them. Let them just get some of these laws that protect the rights of the individual onto their statue books before it is to late and all the foreign cash cows have uped and left.



Nobody is "dictating" to the locals what to do, in fact it is the locals who dictate to us. There attitude to unreasonable behaviour is "go away, if you don't like it leave." What they don't realise is that they already have us and we should be looked after, for one day, when we have all returned to the UK, with their attitude there will be no more people here that they can take for granted and they will suffer as they have finally killed the fatted calf and times will be lean.



As for North Cyprus being a holiday island, then we must cater for the what the majority of its residents want. That I believe is peace and quiet and a restful time. If you want noise and racket then it is well catered for in Ayia Napa or Alsancak. Remember, the grey haired brigade and dual income no kids have the most disposible income, and that is what we need here; foreign money by the bucket load. We need to encourage these people and have rules and regulations in place to support them and ensure that they get the same fair treatment as locals. One rule for one and another rule for aliens, is not a good way to proceed.

Once you end up with mum, dad and 2 kids in tow on a budget of nothing, standards will slip here to that lowest common denominator, and we will be the next Ayia Napa or Costa Del Sol. North Cyprus is more than that, and needs to be, for those seeking a little sanctuary in the sun, so that its handle of "Jewel in the Mediterranean" cannot be tarnished forever.

tufty


Joined: 03/05/2008
Posts: 45

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 18:42

TC



You refer to the local Muhtar in your message are you trying to imply that honourable people are on the take again you have put somthing in black and white that could get you in serious trouble if somebody were to take your comments further



If i wanted complete and utter peace and tranquility i would NOT have bought a house within 10 miles of Girne as we have all seen in the uk once the urban sprawl starts it is impossible to say where it will stop and with it comes what 95% of the human race enjoys Bars and Resteraunts, I would go and live in the mountains or up the Karpaz then i would be able to read my best seller without distraction but maybe then the wildlife would cause a problem



We are Mum,Dad and 3 kids and only on a small budget (10% of what we were used to in the UK) and things do have to be sacrifised but we wouldnt change our situation as the quality of life far outwieghs any type of life in the UK

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 18:50

"We are Mum,Dad and 3 kids and only on a small budget (10% of what we were used to in the UK) and things do have to be sacrifised but we wouldnt change our situation as the quality of life far outwieghs any type of life in the UK"



Yes so are we we are not dead and like a good time let them that do not like any kind of social activity move to outer mongolia .lol

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 20:09

Hi All,



Ensdhrined in British law is the fact that if you meet all the criteria demanded of you within

that legal document, that you are then "ENTITLED TO THE QUIET ENJOYMENT OF THAT PROPERTY"



Now I enjoy a good night out with many beers, but I do not do it at the expense of other peace loving individuals. Timothy has made his case quietly and politely within the law, and as such deserves, at least courtesy and considerstion. Some of these postings disregard common courtesy, which in my opinion should be afforded to everyoned.



If you were in the same situation, with a young family, I am sure that YOU would put their wellbeing first.Please let this family enjoy the joys and beauty of the TRNC.



wynyardman

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 22:09

When I visited the Muhtar for a letter of residency, before handing over the document he asked me to "show my gratitude" for the service. I had no change, and thankfully at the time the largest note available was a 20,000,000 Lira note, but he gladly accepted it but refused to issue a receipt, saying "it really was not necassary." My neighbour had paid 10,000,000 Lira not 24 hours before and also had not got a receipt. I'm just glad that I don't need his services anymore, as no doubt 100YTL would go changeless too.



The same scenario happened when we imported our goods, but this time I ensured I had small enough notes.



After speaking with several locals I discovered that the Muhtar did the job as a hobby, a service to the community, a volunteer. When they found out how much I had paid they were astonished.



Every penny he gets goes into his pocket. No taxes are paid on it. If that's not CORRUPTION what is?



Muhtar's are an outdated Ottoman idea. A throw back to when times were different and they could weild power in the village. Even today, their permission needs to be sought for anyhting to happen within the village limits. With todays modern governments they should be kept more in keeping with a modern society.



So I assume tufty you are, so far, lucky in that your home hasn't been blighted by developments that have sprung up around you. One day you will be then you will understand our dilemma.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 22:24

Timothy,



How much was that in English? God help us!

I am really shocked. Am i naive?

I hope that the muktar of Esentepe isn't standing there with his hand out. By the time my villa is finished, he will have cramp in his wrist!

Even then at that point he will have to wait for my short arms to delve into my deep pockets.

I hope that his pension is paid up!

wynyardman

Joe Blob


Joined: 11/05/2008
Posts: 12

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 22:43

Hello T. C., a very constructive reply , but you sound very angry with the TRNC, almost as angry as I was with the UK. Inflation is a worldwide problem,I do not find basic essentials expensive, could you buy organic veg, salad, fruit, possibly the finest bread in the world in UK , like you can here, I think you would have a shock, if you went shopping there. We eat and drink very well on a low budget, Do you think greasing palms does not go on in the UK, every goverment in the world is corrupt, every council rips us off,and plenty of officials in GREAT BENEFITS, sorry spelt Britain wrong, I beleive they have it right here, look after your own first, Just look at whats happened in our country, what am I talking about we dont have a country anymore, this excuse for a goverment has seen to that. Dont you think that we should have been put first in what was our country I do. Interest Rates We get 17% before 8% tax is deducted from the interest only, some people have gone for 21% But thats pretty high risk stuff. Why do we want EU rules here,I for one dont, but i tell you what would be nice here Moms and Dads with 2 kids and to see the kids playing out like we could when we were young before England turned into the cespit of the world. I was in Bar 11 the other night the place that got us talking to each other, a lady left her handbag, guess what she came back 20 mins later and it was still hanging on the back of her chair, surely this sort of thing is important .

Lincsman



Joined: 02/04/2008
Posts: 117

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 22:45

To Timothy Cadman did I miss something? In your earlier posting you compared Alsancak to Ayia Napa surely they are not comparable

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 22:52

Hi Joe Blob,



Very nice, constructive posting on behalf of the TRNC.



Why then do you wish to see this idyll spoilt by what can only be described as antisocial behavoir!



Time for a reality check.!



wyn

Joe Blob


Joined: 11/05/2008
Posts: 12

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 00:38

Yes Wynyardman, on behalf of the TRNC because thats where we have chosen to live, I wish I could wake up tomorrow with Cypriot blood runnining through my viens and a TRNC passport, Have you heard the saying WHEN IN ROME -----------------etc try integrating,and leave your expat ideas where they belong, in the Ar----le 0f a country that we have left behind. Why are you people here? This is not England (THANK GOD) May be you should move back there tell them your seeking asylum because you are being tortured by music and Karaoke singers , and rising prices, they will probably give you a free house and a voucher for a car, and a free landline, and income support for all your family and go to the local Asda and see them all in there with their shopping vouchers, probably coming out of the taxes and VAT over a million pound of mine that i have paid into the system in th last 25 years and am still contributing in excess of £100K per year and i cant even claim incapacity benefit that i am entitled to, because i spend more than 6 months away from the UK, sorry my friend i dont need a reality check I had one thats why i came here, But ill tell you one thing ,I think a few of you need a check up from the neck up, Do you not realise this is the TRNC, its not England Why dont you just try to enjoy your life here and make the most of what you have here.

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 00:53

Your serve John,

Regards,

Paul.

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 07:51

The UK is not the easy land of "dreams come true". Half a million of the 1 million recent immigrants have returned to their home countries, not because they've filled their pockets but because they couldn't survive.



At least in the UK there is social security to help you survive. Here if you can't afford to live there is no help. For the past 3 years I've paid my Social Security and Taxes of 150YTL a month and so has my employer paid their part. What benefit can I get, nothing until I'm 65 then I can claim a pension which will be a pittance. No work, no income, there's nothing the local government wants to do here. It's a case of "go back to where you were born, let them help you." At least being a UK Citizen I will always have the right to return and seek help and recieve it.



Joe, you said you hope that the TRNC doesn't bring in EU rules. Well one day they want to be members of that great club, sitting along side the South or in there own right. EU rules of Hygiene in Business, Fuel Regulations and Dispensing of, Road Markings are already enforced, no doubt with many others that I am unaware of.



Organic food is available here and at very good prices compared to those in the UK. But it comes at a cost, continuous availability. I enjoy Jacket Potatoes. For the next few weeks I'm unlikely to get any of reasonable size to enjoy. When EU regulations on Food Quality arrive then the rejects that we have will cease and prices will rocket. The EU is on its way, when I'm not sure but it will arrive.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 09:25

hi timothy , surely you thoroughly researched all the points you have stated , before you made the informed choice of moving there , its a big decision moving all your family ,its a different country and lives are lived in a different way , we must all except the differences with grace , after all we are guests in their country , on the finance side , no doubt you allowed for inflation ect if not why not , from your post you sound so negative , but if you are happy to stay there as you say you are , then you need to be a bit more positive or you will only make yourself and your family miserable , and what does it matter about the size of potatoes , at least you have food that you can eat , there are people in this world who are starving ,

have a good day , simbas

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 09:44

newlab,



See billybob posting, "This board is getting very bitter"



I rest my case.



wynyardman

Murales


Joined: 15/01/2008
Posts: 6

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 09:48

Hi TC, If you are working and paying all of your taxes, you are entitled free health care from the nationbal hospital for you and your family, and discounted medecines. Also in the event that you loose your job, you could also claim unemployment benefit. (Civilised enough for you??)

Before a licence is issued for a bar, a notice must be put in the local cafe or Supermarket. If anyone has objections they must tell the local council. Maybe you never saw this notice?

AndyP



Joined: 18/04/2008
Posts: 517

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 10:01

Got points made by Joe Blob messages 9 and 12.



Cant add anymore to that other than go back if you are not happy. No one is holding a gun to your head. Well not yet but the locals might one day if you upset them enough. Believe me, I know an english guy that was over here and upset a few people by moaning about houses. Lets put it this way, he and his family had to leave very quickly. Say no more.



Remember this is their country not ours. Blend in.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 10:11

Hi Joe Blob,



We chose the TRNC for the sheer beauty of the place, the wild flowers, the culture. We bought a villa at Esentepe because it was an uncommercialised part of this beautiful coastline.



I am a UK citizen, I also pay substantial amounts of tax, and have done so for many years. I have NEVER been a beneficiary of The Social Security System in the UK I like many despair at the Government currently in power, but I value my democratic vote when the time comes, I shall exercise it.



Now then the point at issue. I supported Timothys right to have "the quiet enjoyment of his property" For his children to have a good nights sleep, and for he and his family to enjoy the

true beauty of the TRNC. Loud music into the early hours is pollution, hence the fact it is

regulated. If the neighbours views were not taken into account, then it is not a fair and democratic process.



I feel that if we took a vote on this board as to why people come to live or holiday in the TRNC, it would be overwhelmingly in favour of the points I listed above.



wynyardman

Murales


Joined: 15/01/2008
Posts: 6

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 10:22

wynyardman, all of of points that you have stated are valid and very true. However, the TRNC is a democractic society, and the point that I was trying to make earlier was that there are rules and regulations about licences and if BAR 11 has got a licence the local community would have been advised by the means of a notice been placed in a public place for (I think) a 14 day period. This would of ensured any objections from the local community been heard at the local council. And the licence proposal accepted or declined.

Joe Blob


Joined: 11/05/2008
Posts: 12

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 10:33

Tim, try having two smaller jacket potatoes, Ihave seen large spuds this week in several supermarkets and veg stores,and you refer to the rejects that we have here ! I dont know where you live or shop but you must be on adifferent island to us and all of the other dozens of well fed people here, Why should we be entitled to claim from TRNC , system, I dont know where you came from in the UK but it must have been some tranquil paradise, I have friends here, from places in Devon and Cornwall where life used to be different, and they tell me that now it as totally changed and thats why they are here. I must say, and this is not meant with any disrespect whatsoever, but I dont think you want to be here, didnt you have any idea what to expect before you came, Most of us have also paid lots of funds into the UK system, is there still going to be a pension pot left when we get to retiement age, anyway at least ive got you off Bar 11 for a few days, Yes Turkey will probably eventually join the EU and that will be the start of the rot , We could be on this subject forever, and get nowhere, As I said earlier with all due respect any of you who are so dissatisfied with life here should try to get back to the UK, Otherwise accept that you are in another country ,try to adjust and go with the flow,

tufty


Joined: 03/05/2008
Posts: 45

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 10:37

I am very pleased there is no social secutity on this part of the island can you imagine what might happen if there was the rest of the world would hear about it and it would be like the UK full of immigrants looking for a free house and a weekly hand out then we would have somthing to complain about



TC i got a letter from the muhtar yesterday to renew my residency and i gave him a crisp 20ytl note the stamps he used to authenticate the document were 5ytl i have always been a great beleiver in giving drinks to people who help me in life he ended up with 15 ytl which would equate to 2 nice bottles of Angora wine, without these people we could not live on this island good luck to them

It is possible to make goergeous jacket spuds with small potatoes its all in the cooking

Kitty1


Joined: 15/03/2007
Posts: 683

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 11:09

I am not getting involved in the nitty-gritty of this thread, but I will say one thing...in TC's defence, I also lived very close to Bar 11 when it was being built and when it was opening. I never saw any such notice in the local supermarkets and so would have no idea that such licence was being sought. We actually lived at the end of the development quite near Hz Omer Turbesi there and we could frequently hear the Fez, so I am sure we would now be having similar issues with Bar 11 were we still living there.



I now live on a very quiet area of Catalkoy in a house we recently purchased. Me and my husband both work full time, and enjoy going out for to eat, drink, be entertained as much as the next person. But we bought our property because we also greatly value peace and tranquility...we would be gutted if something happened near us to spoil that.



Perhaps it is time that we stop arguing this particular point and accept the fact that different folks value different things. That's what makes the human race unique. I think it is fair to say that for the most part, we all love this country and our reasons for loving it would be many and varied. Sadly this island has seen enough arguing, fighting and dissent to last a lifetime, so please can't we at least have a discussion about something without it turning into a full-scale war of words?



That's all I'm saying. Thanks folks.

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 13:06

To all,



I have never asked, or demanded, that Bar 11 should be closed or never been built in the first place.



My only arguement with them is the time that their entertainment goes on till. We were not consulted on any stage about their entertainment licence. There were no notices pinned to telegraph poles, no notices pushed through our door or stuck in our letter box, or notices appearing in the local shops and supermarkets.



When we bought we were aware of The Fez and we even asked them about their music policy. Their policy was/is Fridays and Saturdays until 11.15pm at the latest, usually 11pm. On occassions they have extra "party nights" during the week, but once again any entertainment would be finished by 11.15pm and the bar would close at midnight. This we were happy with and bought our home. They have kept their word, and as such, frequent The Fez on warm summer evenings for a late dinner and some entertainment.



2 years after we moved into our villa Bar 11 starts to be built. OK, no problem. It's good to get some infastructure into an area that can be used by the local populous. They had a party on opening day with lots of loud music, but it was 2pm when it started and was over by 8pm. I was at work so missed most of it but did used to frequent it to watch sport on the telly and socialise with other neighbours there.



Then on Friday 25th April 2008, over 500 metres away we could plainly hear the top songs of Elvis waffting on the breeze, and a deep thud, thud, thud of the backing track. I had to be up at 7am to goto work. I know if I don't get the sleep I need I'm not my bright cheery self, and in a Customer Facing job, that is really not a good way to keep your job.



By midnight 30, some 1 hour 15 minutes after the entertainment had started, I heard my neighbours car start. I knew where he was going and decided to follow on. He was in full flow when I arrived and before I could park up he was back in his car and on his way home.



I must admit that this weekend just gone has shown a marked improvement in the sound level. Maybe the speakers on the stage have been turned, or the volume lowered but for me, and my neighbour, we were able to goto bed at 11pm and sleep, thus everyone is much happier. Maybe Bar 11 do have a conscious after all. Now if they keep it up then for me, at least, the matter is closed.

bazilbrush


Joined: 29/03/2008
Posts: 404

Message Posted:
14/05/2008 21:01

TC Quote ; [If I wanted noise and racket then I would have gone to Lapta and Karsiyaka, or even stayed in the UK.]



Where does the loud music happen in Lapta or especially Karsiyaka, which has only one bar and is a much quiter area than Catalkoy , as I have not heard it yet. Lapta has the most strictest Belediye in Northern Cyprus and no bars carry on after 12 midnight. Alsancak has 2 clubs at the moment which do run late in the summer months but these clubs have been around a while and so you know what your buying into in this area. You must have some form of entertainment otherwise tourists get bored and for some maybe their only holiday for the year. Once this island did have a lot of older people as tourists ,but things are changing and many younger people are arriving for holidays and purchasing here now. You cant stop progress unfortunately.

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
08/06/2008 15:21

Just signed up for these forums, a lot of my customers have been telling me about the posts so i thought i would take a look, some nice ones and some i would like to put the record straight, bar11 has cost me in excess of £300,000 to achieve i had resteraunts and cafes back in the UK and have been involed in this industry for some 35 years when i started this project it was my intention to provide a place that has something for every age form a baby to a pensioner customers tell me that i have achieved my goal. I take complaints very seriously and recently we have had a few about the noise levels so i investigated them personally i will not do anything illegal and obtain all the correct licences and abide by the countries regulations i have a live music licence for Wednesday Friday and Saturday until midnight and the volume is monitered not only from inside the bar but also the surrouding area on on 2 occasions a chap came into the bar demandind we close the bar when asked where he lived he replied a little higher up the roas from the Fez myself and 2 members of staff invited him to take a walk back towards his home so we could listen to the noise levels and guess what once we had crossed the main road all we could hear was traffic noise, looking at the size of this guy his walk was not wasted as he looked like he could do with plenty of exersize. we do get regular visits from the police due to peoples complaints and after they have checked the licence and monitered the noise levels they go away quite happy, because i value my customers greatly i have purchased a 16 seater minibus to provide a pickup and dropoff service this sevice is being used by many customers i hate the thought of somebody losing there licence or worse because they have been drinking alchohol supplied by me so it is the least i can do to ensure they get home safely now on to lighter things we are showing every euro 2008 match in the gardens on the big screen, we show every F1 race as our music man is a big fan, Wednesday nights we have live Turkish music, Thursday is BINGO and we have 5600ytl up for grabs, Friday is karaoke and Saturday is Live Brits night, we have a very succesful darts team 2 pool teams playing on Tuesdays and a 7 a side foot ball team, Monday is a pool knockout competition with all welcome Sunday is my favorite day where we all chill out and recharge our batteries with a good old Sunday lunch We are forming a golf society and have got some fantastic rates from Korinium any body wishing to join please call the number below ohh i nearly forgot we also have an internet cafe offering all the usual services including cheap world wide phone call should anybody wish to complain or book meals or parties please call on 05428845050 or call in and see us at the bar you will be more than welcome and i must say thank you to all our customers for your support



Reg

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
12/06/2008 21:04

Tonight at bar 11 Bingo with 4600ytl in prise money Friday Karaoke come and join in the fun Saturday live on stage Funky Monkey eveybody more than welcome

rcroton


Joined: 05/06/2008
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
13/06/2008 09:00

Reg,



that sounds great will all this be going on over summer? I live up at the top of Catalkoy past the dedeman olive tree. Have to bring my darts and take a few people on!!



Good idea about the minibus



Rich

Barrovian1



Joined: 16/11/2007
Posts: 95

Message Posted:
13/06/2008 12:30

Hi Reg

Regarding your "good old Sunday lunch". How about you use fresh veg, instead of the tinned variety.



Bob.

Hot Hornet


Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 343

Message Posted:
13/06/2008 12:52

thanks for the 'ad' - least I know which nights not to bother with "Friday is karaoke and Saturday is Live Brits night"!!!!

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
13/06/2008 13:06

Whats thursdays ?



Dead donkey night.

Hot Hornet


Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 343

Message Posted:
13/06/2008 13:29

what you upset about now? as before, be careful what you write.

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
13/06/2008 13:38

Rich



You will be most welcome we are not just a summer bar we are open 365 days a year from 11am we are having a web site constructed which will enable us to keep evertbody up to date with forth coming events i will post the address on this board once it is finished



Lots of people at last nights bingo all trying to win the snowball prize of 3000ytl it is still in my pocket next week we are at 43 numbers congrats to the people who won last night 1600ytl was won by our customers



Karaoke tonight come and join in the fun and give us a song



Hope to see you soon

Reg

old dog


Joined: 16/05/2008
Posts: 4

Message Posted:
13/06/2008 13:45

Sitting at home listening to the bingo. Only 2 problems 1). I don't like bingo.

2). I live 3kms from Bar 11 so why can I hear It? Oh I think it's just finished - peace. Really looking forward to Fridays' Karaoke and Funkey Monkey on Saturday. DEEP JOY!!

JulieSmith


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 6

Message Posted:
13/06/2008 13:53

Reg.

Went there on Wednesday. NO ELVIS .NO LIVE ENGLISH MUSIC. There was a Turkish Male Singer. I asked someone at the Bar, were is ELVIS ( Gary Fisher )

he said we gave him the sack as he is shit. We replaced him with this Gay Singer. So if Wednesday is Gay Night please advertise it we were very disappointed with your false advertising.

Regarding this BINGO, could you please tell us how much you have donated to Duzkaya Football club or have you pocketed all the money.

Kitty1


Joined: 15/03/2007
Posts: 683

Message Posted:
13/06/2008 14:12

HH...Brit Night might not ordinarily appeal to you but this Saturday is Funky Monkey, and I know you are a fan - just thought I'd mention it xx

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
13/06/2008 18:17

Julie can you please tell me where you have seen the advert for elvis on a wednesday night we pay our advertising agent a lot of money to work on our behalf and if they have got it wrong i would like to no.

To put the record straight regarding bingo it is in fact run by Duzkaya Football club all we do is provide the venue the staff and promote it on there behalf we dont make any money from the bingo so maybe you should contact them and see if they will tell you how much they make

Who is Gary Fisher youre statement I asked someone at the Bar, were is ELVIS ( Gary Fisher )

he said we gave him the sack as he is shit. We replaced him with this Gay Singer.

To put the record straight we dont have a member of staff with this name so how could he say we gave him the sack



Reg

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
13/06/2008 20:55

Reg,



Julie never mentioned any of your staff members by name. One, of the many Elvis impersonators in the TRNC, is Gary Fisher. She was assuming that he was your Elvis on a Wednesday night.

"Gay Singer", is not the name of a person but a description of a style of person, ie the person who was entertaining on the night appeared to a camp, gay, Turkish person. What Julie was getting at is that, will Wednesday night become a night when homosexual (gay) people meet at your bar for an evenings entertainment, drawn by the entertainer who appears to be very gay, and not as in your earlier advertising stated at the end of April and beginning of May, saying that Elvis would be appearing.



So Julie's real question should be; the Elvis impersonator you had on a Wednesday night was he sacked for being shit, as she claims to have been told by one of your employees?

slimboyfat


Joined: 01/05/2008
Posts: 96

Message Posted:
13/06/2008 22:37

"Elvis" goes under the name of Danny Fisher which was a character played by Elvis in King Creole. Danny Fisher's real name is Danny Needham.

GayJohn


Joined: 13/06/2008
Posts: 2

Message Posted:
14/06/2008 11:00

This place sounds very exciting, were about is BAR 11, i be coming out at the begining of August with my adorable friends, specially looking forward to Wednesday Nights, meeting New friends and getting stuck in. It is the latest fashion in the U.K. for having Gay Bars, well done BAR 11 for bringing the craze over to North Cyprus.

Gay John

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
14/06/2008 22:53

Gay John,



Bar 11 is on the Girne to Catalkoy main road behind the Stop and Shop Supermarket.



By the way John, it is still illegal here to be gay or live a gay lifesytle. Imprisonment is an option the courts have discretion to use. Please don't flaunt yourself in a highly camp way as you may well rub the wrong person up the wrong way and you could find yourself in the Lefkosa Central Prison, and that is not a nice place to be by all accounts.

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
14/06/2008 23:55

Depends what turns you on, Lefkosa Central Prison is renowned for its M & S.



Also, why Bar 11, wot happened to the other 10?



Lem

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 03:52

Hi TC

I believe you returned to the UK how is the weather over there i take it you must be Julies spokesperson i now understand where Julie is coming from Gary Fisher should be Danny Fisher re the gay singer i would love to see somebody call him GAY to his face At bar 11 everybody is welcome (Gays Lesbian Straight Black White etc)

Hilltop



Joined: 28/04/2008
Posts: 636

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 07:20

Lem



When did the prison open an M&S? This could save my wife having to travel to the South for her knickers........Fantastic!!

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 09:49

danny fisher GAY yea ok I have read it all now IIf he's gay then I am a diplomatic tolerant slim handsome chap with no sence of humour !

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 10:13

is everything alright littlenige ?

regards , simbas

Chris


Joined: 26/03/2008
Posts: 454

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 10:21

This is one of the funniest threads I have read for ages!



Chris

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 10:25

you are very easy to please chris

regards , pat

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 13:25

TC



As you appear to be julies spokesperson can you ask her if she is a fluent turkish speaker as i only hav 1 member of staff who speaks english and that is very limited, the only other fluent english speaking person on the payroll is myself and it is not my policy to speak about peolpe i employ with customers maybe she dreamt she was talking with a member of staff.



Lemtech



Because we sponser Duzkaya foot ball team bar 11 was the obvious name as there are 11 players in a team maybe the next bar could be bar 7 as we sponser a 7 a side team or bar pool after our pool team or bar darts after the darts team what about bar rally car after our rally car i will let you know when we have decided

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 13:26

might call it the Gay Bar

Chris


Joined: 26/03/2008
Posts: 454

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 13:39

Hi Simbas

Thats always been my problem!!



LOL



Chris

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 13:43

oh , bless

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 16:36

Cheers Gov



Will try and drop in for a pint when I'm over with the family.



regards



Lem

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 16:43

Reg,



Yes I am happy back in the UK, away from your noisy bar. I've also noticed that since you opened 2 other properties in the vicinity to my old property have gone up for sale, one of which has sold.



The weather is ok, light showers one day, sun the next.



Within 4 weeks of returning to the UK I have 8MB Broadband Internet installed, Sky TV (without a 4 metre dish), earning 3 times what I was earning in the TRNC, driving a new car, having a huge range of foods available and spending the same amount here on food that I was in the TRNC (and the quality is a lot better). One other thing, everything is priced! Whether I am a UK Citizen or a foreigner we all pay the same, and do you know, when I tell people that there are places within the world where foreigners are fleeced for their money they are shocked, then even more when they find out just how close to Europe this type of fleecing takes place.



But if you think all I've appeared to do is run down the TRNC, then I leave you with this......I will return to the TRNC once I can retire and not have to work to survive and, after paying for a property, invest at least £150,000 in a bank account and live off the interest.

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 19:56

timothy,





we are very happy that you left north cyprus and wish you more rain, more taxes, and more of what you missed since you left - you do not respect the cypriots and their way of life, when you immigrate to a country you cannot take only the best you have to give as well to locals - money is not the only thing in life ! and who cared about your money except yourself to live on it into a country you seen to dislike so much -

Turtle


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 2669

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 20:10

Tim

You say we all pay the same in UK

I visited my brother in law in Blackpool the other week and we were in a pub and he bought the first round, it was my turn next and he said give me your money and i will get the beers in as you will pay "tourist prices" and he pays a lot less ?

We don,t all pay the same I can assure you.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 23:43

Turtle,



I think the trading standards and licensing board would be keen to visit this Blackpool bar.

gottheyips


Joined: 28/12/2007
Posts: 444

Message Posted:
16/06/2008 00:10

lived for many years in the Blackpool area, prices differed in many establishments favouring locals, this was standard practice never mind trading standards.

And has been going as long as Blackpool Rock.

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
16/06/2008 04:22

Sylvie,



Without money how do you live? Man cannot live by bread alone and school fees needed to be paid. I was under more stress in the TRNC than when I left the UK. Now I have disposible income, something that for 12 months we had not had in the TRNC.



In my 6 years in the TRNC I put into the local economy £220,000. I left with £150,000. A net loss of £70,000.



Now in the UK, I don't worry about not being able to feed myself and family or how I will pay for the electric after the kids left the Air Conditioning on all night so they could sleep. Our income didn't keep pace with the price hikes and Bar 11 put the icing on the cake when their "entertainment evenings" started at the end of April.

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
16/06/2008 11:47

TC



Reading your threads i dont think the under lying problem for leaving the TRNC was my bar you have obviously been contemplating this for some time i wish i could live on 11k per annum in the TRNC I still have a house in South London which only gets used about 2 months of the year and it costs me about 8k per year i dont envy you in the winter months when you have the central heating on to keep the kids warm i think over the next 12 months you will be in for a big shock and will realisethat the percentages are the same but you wont have the same weather and beuatiful surroundings

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
16/06/2008 12:17

I dont know yet the bar 11 we are coming soon but i will go with pleasure there and make my own opinion about it - i have lots of respect about people investing their money into a business it is very couragous now-a-day because time is hard everywhere - i am self-rmployed myself i know what it means !!!



to you TC ,



when you say you left 11K a year in UK don't forget to tell you put your money into high interest bank whick provide you a comfortable income -if i know how to calculate with the interests you spend 0 and you got the sunshine free !!! about aircond. we paid more for heating in europe and most probably where you live than for aircond - what about council tax ? when european people made the choice of moving to an other country there is always a financial interest of course, because money is necessary but it is not the only reason - in some posts i read that insecurity, weather and other way of life were important !!!

i wish i could stay in beautiful girne i would never deny such a place - if i start one day to think about it - i won't come anymore !!!

anyway i am sure cypriots wont miss you -

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
16/06/2008 12:23

TC,



how can you say it is illegal to be gay in cyprus, it is not !!! my husband tells me he never heard anything like that - show me the law article - there are gays, lesbians, black, jews,..... and no discrimination - less than in europe i can assure you -

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
16/06/2008 12:43

hi sylvie you are right , in 2006 northern cyprus was set to decriminalise homosexuality bringing it in line with the eu laws of human rights , before 2006 homosexuality was regarded as a crime against nature , not only in northern cyprus but most islamic countries ,

have a good day , simbas

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
16/06/2008 12:56

Blimey, I don't think anyone told the Turkish army about the gay ban.

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
16/06/2008 13:25

hello simbas,



ok for the law since 2006 but even before and i am talking about more than 30 years ago homosexualtity was regarded as a shame by the population and not a crime by law - my husband told me in every village and cities





gay men have never been prosecuted by law - it was tolerated - they were many of homosexuals - none of them have been arrested -

let's say in turkey - 30 - ''40 years ago the most popular singer named " zeki muren" has never been worried for his homosexality -



it is different in islamic countries - we mustn't forget that turkey is a laic country - i am saying everything is perfect in turkey but as less there is more tolerance than most of arabic countries - and still i do not want to generalize because my knowledge of islamic arabic countries is very poor !!

Skogsy


Joined: 15/05/2008
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
16/06/2008 13:42

What has all this homosexual stuff got to do with Bar 11?

Maybe start a new thread?

Skogsy

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
16/06/2008 13:47

hi sylvie , your husband probably knows best , as he lived in that community and experienced how life was then , i can only refer to what turkish friends have said on the subject , but i can say from experience , being a muslim myself ,and in my experience , especially amongst the elders of the community i have ties with , it is not tolerated and is illegal , but times are changing and as the younger generation matures one can only hope that their views on the subject matures too.

regards , simbas

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
16/06/2008 14:31

Until the 1st January 2009 Sodomy Laws still exist in the TRNC. Look down the list of countries, the TRNC is actually named. The last reported case od Sodomy Laws being involked was in 2001.



Citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_laws_of_the_world



It could have been done much earlier as they were talking about it in 2006.



Citation: http://365gay.com/Newscon06/10/102006cyprus.htm

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
16/06/2008 14:36

simbas,



when i said it was tolerated i don't mean according to the religion side but the law side - my husband is also muslim not practicing like lots of Ncypriots and most probably it depends of the people you mix with - the town they've been living in -even christian do not accept and tolerate but and happily not everything go through religion !!!!

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
16/06/2008 14:47

and that god for that

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
16/06/2008 14:55

simbas,



i keep laughing when i just realize that thoses posts started about the insult of TC against bar 11 !!! ANYWAY NICE TALKING TO YOU - by the way beautiful baby in your arms !!!!

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
16/06/2008 15:03

hi sylvie , thank you , she is very beautiful , her name is ruby and she was 1yr old last sat she is my one and only much adored grandchild , i shall stop there , as i am accused by my husband of boring people as i can't stop talking about her when i start ,

regards , simbas

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
16/06/2008 20:38

you are right to talk with love about your belonged ones - i am the same with my boys - we are expecting our first one " grand child"for the end of september - baby boy -

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
16/06/2008 21:02

congratulations sylvie , the immense joy they bring is mindblowing ,

regards , simbas

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
18/06/2008 19:50

Funky Monkey put on a good show on saturday thank you to all the people who came and enjoyed a great night. dont forget bingo thursday night 4600ytl up for grabs come and support the local football club Friday night is Karaoke night and we will also be showing Turkey v Croatia on the 8 foot screen our new childrens activity park is now open lots of fun for the kids talking of kids we have taken lots of bookings for kids parties and dates are running out dont be dissapointed call us regarding your bookings before it is too late



Sylvie

Look forward to meeting you and your gang make yourself known when you arrive and i will sort you out with a drink



Reg

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
18/06/2008 22:38

GOV,



thanks - if in july you still make karaoke night we will be coming - we are in girne mid july and my "tribue" is coming in august !!!



wish you all the best in your business,

rcroton


Joined: 05/06/2008
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 08:50

Reg,



By the way will you have the prem footy on in August? I have delayed my break so i can take the footy in on holiday while sinking a few beers. Not a footy hooligan by the way, will be there with my wife daughter and mother in law!



rich

bankadan


Joined: 14/12/2007
Posts: 979

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 10:25

Reg,

A regular visitor to your bar. We have family coming Saturday 21st for 2 weeks. Can you let me know what will be on at Bar 11 during this time.

Also a little in advance but from 9th July for 1 week (friends coming) if you know yet?



Cheers and see you soon

littleSarah


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 2

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 15:21

I live just passed BAR 11, and have noticed a big Decline of Customers at BAR 11 , this is either due to the very Loud Music or the rapid increase of food and drink prices, i now everything is going up in leaps & bounds here but if the Restaurant' s and Bar prices keep going up as they are, they will soon have No customers at all.



BAR 11 has recently significantly increased his prices & lost all his day time trade most of the time their is hardly any people in their.

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
23/06/2008 12:12

Sorry i havnt ben on the board since last Wednesday been busy at the bar and with other things



LittleSarah Looking at the time of your post a lot of people dont like to sit outside because of the heat and do in fact sit inside in the nice air conditioned enviroment, considering you think we have a big decline in customers something magical must be happening as our takings are going up by the week you rightly mention the fact that prices have gone up you will probably have noticed that the supermarkets have put the price of beer up this is due to a rise by the brewery and not by retailers, with regard to food prices some meals have gone up by 9% due to a rise in the cost of ingredients most normal people understand that this is happening world wide 90% of our meals are still the same price as they were last November and should stay the same for the rest of the summer.



bankadan Re your enquiry Wednesday Euro 2008 semi final Turkey v Germany on the 8 foot screen in the garden if it is anything like turkeys last game the place will be buzzing Thurday Euro 2008 semi final Russia v Spain and our famous bingo with 4600ytl up for grabs tickets go on sale at 8 pm Friday is Karaoke night due to the response we get people who come late dont always get a chance to sing as time runs out on us, we are negotiting with Carlsberg to put a promotional night on it may be this Saturday watch this space



rcrotton Wife and daughter sounds good dont no about the mother in law they usually cause all the problems lol we will be showing lots of prem football as we did last season hopefully we will have our 3rd system set up so we can show 3 different games Man United are always on due to the amount of Man U fans in the bar we also try to show The Gunners Chelsea Spurs Liverpool or Newcastle depending on demand who do you support



Dont forget those of you who are good honest people and dont drink and drive call us on 0542 884 5050 and we will come and pick you up and take you home when you are p____d



Hope to see you all soon

Reg

JulieSmith


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 6

Message Posted:
23/06/2008 21:49

Reg.

On 8/6/08. You posted a message saying i will not do anything illegal. How come last week you was employing an English Girl, which was a tourist and No way she had a work permit.

What about the Musicians you have employed through out the year, how many of them had work permits. ?. Please tell us.

I am still not happy the Day i turned up to watch Elvis and he was not there and you still advertising in the press that you have Elvis Every Wednesday.

As Adveretised in this weeks paper.

http://www.starint.net/pages/index.asp?ID=11



JulieSmith

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
24/06/2008 14:30

Julie



It is obvious to me that your command of the english language and therefore the meaning of words is very limited you obviously do not no the meaning of the word employ but to clarify this i have pasted to this an extract from the Collins English Dictionary 1 to engage or make use of the services of (a person) in return for money; hire



The young lady in question and her family are personal friends of mine and she asked could she help at the bar as she does not recieve any form of payment how can she be classed as an employee.



Re the musicians who have performed at the bar they are either citizens or are involved with companies and therefore are entitled to work in the TRNC in there own right maybe you should contact the individual performers and request they provide you with the information required



Re the advert i cancelled this advert some 2 weeks ago if they are still printing it i would like to thank them for the free publicity



Reg

tufty


Joined: 03/05/2008
Posts: 45

Message Posted:
24/06/2008 14:43

Julie



My 2 kids help at the bar my boy is 7 and my girl is 6 i get great pleasure in seeing them geting a great sense of achievment from the little tasks they undertake are you saying they both require work permits i cant think of a better way for a young child to learn about the reality of life I dont no whether you have kids if you havnt you dont no what you are missing.

The 2 postings you have put on this thread make me think you are a very sad person and should GET A LIFE and stop trying to put hard working people down



Maybe you should consult with your friend and advisor TC before you post your next message and stop yourself looking a bigger fool than you obviosly are



Tufty

rcroton


Joined: 05/06/2008
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
24/06/2008 16:32

I must say Julie, Still being unhappy over a cancelled peformance is a bit strong, these things happen from time to time, there are far more important things in life!



Reg looking forward to having a beer or 2 in your establishment very soon



Rich

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
24/06/2008 22:00

Tufty,



Your 6 and 7 year olds should not be carrying out any tasks that helps or promotes anothers business. Yes, you are sending them "out to work".

You are no better than the companies who use 3rd world people on US$1 a day, or less, to supply us westeners with our luxury goods, or cheap clothing from Primark or one of the supermarket chains.



By the way, any work, paid or unpaid, under taken by any none local in the TRNC requires a work permit.



It would also be interesting to find out if the insurance company of Bar 11 would pay out if there was an accident to one of them.



Once the TRNC joins the EU at least you won't be allowed to do "little tasks" until they are 12 years old and even then they will be limited and have specific hours of being allowed to work.



Don't let the rest of the real world bring your children up, you do it yourself. You teach them right from wrong. You teach them good from bad. For in the real world their impressonable minds will be found by those who wish to control them.

ttoli


Joined: 24/03/2007
Posts: 1172

Message Posted:
24/06/2008 22:27

TC You are bang out of order, offering others advice on bringing up their children.

You tried the lifestyle here and it didnt work for you, so you fled back to the UK, and delight in boasting of all the materialistic possesions which you now have, pity that you haven't got the weather or relaxed, laid back lifestyle.



Dont knock others that are making a go of it, No its not perfect here, there are faults but everytime that i hear of the rising crime in the UK it solidifies my decision to live here.



Tufty, Your kids will grow up learning to graft and not expect things handed to them on a plate and what a great boost to their social skills.



Reg, any chance of getting Draught Guinness?

sylvie


Joined: 12/03/2008
Posts: 1081

Message Posted:
25/06/2008 00:26

the income of TC wasn t high enough for him to stay - so he went back to work in uk - hope he never comes back because he doesn't like the locals and of course you cannot expect people to like him with such posts - TC enjoy uk as much as you can and don't bother anymore critizising people life all the time !!! this post do not need comment of yours

tufty


Joined: 03/05/2008
Posts: 45

Message Posted:
25/06/2008 01:28

TC

You really are a sad b if it makes you feel better i will put there pocket money up from 5k to 10k a year and ask the minister of employment if he will give them a special work permit to make them legal please come out of the dark ages life is to be enjoyed just because you made a complete and utter boll---s of yours the rest of us are getting on with it by the way my 2 year old is the childrens play area attendant

TimothyCadman


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 1040

Message Posted:
25/06/2008 11:27

Sylvie,



Glad you enjoy the explotation of children for profit.



ttoli,



Children don't need to learn social skills from working, they learn best through play with others of their own age.



Tufty,



Thankyou for your posts. The ministry for employment has been informed with all relevent information to this post. I really do hope that, as many do, you are out and out lying, or stretching the truth to an unbelievable extent.



Everyone remember, if you don't want everyone knowing your business DON'T post it on an internet board like this, as there is always someone who will take the higher moral ground to try and protect people who are being exploited.

pussycatuk


Joined: 26/11/2007
Posts: 315

Message Posted:
25/06/2008 11:37

i think thsi post is getting a little silly now. There must be important things that you all have to do other than slag each other off.



TC - in responding to all this you are giving Bar11 even more publicity and now even more people will go there just to see what its like. Your intention was to keep people away. I am afraid it looks like it will backfire on you.



I personally love Bar11 - I am on my own 6 months of the year as my husband works away and they made me very welcome and comfortable to be able to go there with just my daughter and not feel alone.



The bar staff and customers alike are great. Mixture of locals and us. This is what i came here for to experience some of their ways and lifes. Not complain at everything they do. I personally dont like some of the bars which only seem to be frequented by expats. Most seem very clicky and like i say i am on my own for a lot of the year so prefer to go where i am made feel very welcome which happens to be Bar11. I have since moved to Lapta and I still travel to go to Bar11. Reg's free taxi service takes me home on occasions which is even better. He looks after his customers and cares. Keep it up Reg.

lynnw


Joined: 02/06/2008
Posts: 43

Message Posted:
25/06/2008 12:03

tufty, can you contact me off the forum please.

you no who i am.

tufty


Joined: 03/05/2008
Posts: 45

Message Posted:
25/06/2008 13:05

TC



My partner and myself are in the very fortunate position to allow us to be with our children 24/7 and i never let my workload interfear with there upbringing and we do spend a lot of time at Bar11 at the childrens request and because of the facilities availableat the Bar i am able to sit in the garden with my lap top and internet phone and address any work issues while watching the children enjoying life (with other children of the same age)

I have never been to a place where childrens safety is of paramount importance to the owner of the business and what Reg has achieved is a credit to him and i personaly wish him all the best for the future

When i see my children watering the flowers taking fresh vegatables from the ground laying a table etc these are all simple tasks they would carry out in the home it is all part of the learning curve of life they are never asked to do these tasks they always ask if they can help how you can say this is Quote the explotation of children for profit Unquote if the world lived by your way of thinking i would not like to be a child as life would be so boring

rcroton


Joined: 05/06/2008
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
25/06/2008 13:20

TC,



reg must be over the moon over this publisity on this board, i know 6 to 10 people in Qatar who are now going to visit bar 11 after the rantings oy yourself. Reg things should be looking up for the summer!!! I and my family will for sure all be there over the summer.



I also think you are going a little over the top, just an opinion



Rich

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
25/06/2008 14:05

Pussycatuk & Tufty



Thank you both for your nice comments



TC



Just to put the record straight i do not and never have exploited cheap labour every member of my staff is paid more than the minimum wage,being in business for over 40 years i have learnt that if you look after your staff their loyalty repays you in the long run maybe you should have called to the bar instead of criticising us i may have been able to provide you with a position that allowed you to remain on this beautiful island



ttoli

My staff and myself are always looking at ways to make our business more enjoyable for our customers and selling beer is a major part of it we are always looking at ways to introduce different products to the service we provide i couldnt agree more regarding draught guinness but i feel getting draught at this moment in time could be a bridge to far, we are looking at various types of tinned beers ( Boddingtons John Smiths Guinness Stones etc) and hopefully in the near future will be in a postion to serve many beers at the bar

We take customer satisfaction very seriously and are always open to your suggestions and it is very satisfying to hear customers views and we appreciate all your comments



For the footy fans we are having a party tonight and during the Turkey/Germany football match draft beer will be 2ytl a pint we look forward to seeing you all



Reg

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
25/06/2008 18:02

Comiing to bar 11 next week espreso coffee mornings with brunch freshly ground coffee with with nice cakes dont sit at home come and join great company in a relaxed atmosphere



Reg

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
25/06/2008 19:01

" Just to put the record straight i do not and never have exploited cheap labour every member of my staff is paid more than the minimum wage,being in business for over 40 years i have learnt that if you look after your staff their loyalty repays you in the long run."



Fntastic ethos well done as a reult of this I shall make a 40 min journey to try the bar well done .



A mangaer / owner are only as good as the staff they employ and the training they give them.



WELL DONE THE GOV.

gottheyips


Joined: 28/12/2007
Posts: 444

Message Posted:
26/06/2008 00:15

Well done Reg,

and an even bigger well done to TC your secret PR man.

Give that man a bonus !!! he is saving you a fortune in advertising.

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
26/06/2008 12:17

gottheyips



You think the same way as me all publicity is good providing we deal with any complaints in the correct manner and to the customers satisfaction



Littlenige



Thank you for your comments you are more than welcome to come and join us please introduce yourself when you arrive i like to get to no all the customers personally



Thank you to everybody who came to watch Turkey last night sadly the best team lost and the boys should be proud of there perfomance i thought it was going to be The Great Escape 3 but we all had a great night in the garden watching it on the big screen for any football addicts tonight we are showing Russia v Spain as well as playing our big money bingo with 4600ytl prize money up for grabs.



Our web site is nearing completion and will post the address when finished



Once again thanks to one and all

Reg

littleSarah


Joined: 19/06/2008
Posts: 2

Message Posted:
26/06/2008 12:41

Gottheyips

Are u sure, i think the opposite is happening, went pass there today, not even 1 car outside in the Car Park.



Reg.

The best way of Advertising is word of mouth here in Cyprus, and everyone has heard of the big punch ups that has happened at Bar 11, especially on your Opening Night.



Most my friends, will now not use this Bar as they are tired of the Sound of Loud Music playing, they are also complaing that the Kids are Out of Control, Screaming, Shouting, Swearing etc.



It looks like you made a wrong Decision in Naming this Bar, you should have called Screaming Kids House or Bar Punch up.



Little Sarah

pussycatuk


Joined: 26/11/2007
Posts: 315

Message Posted:
26/06/2008 12:44

littlenige, did you buy stumble Inn. Went there the other day and it was closed. thought it reopened on the 22nd.

Anyway, if you fancy a night along bar11, we could get reg's minibus to collect us as i am in lapto too.

pussycatuk


Joined: 26/11/2007
Posts: 315

Message Posted:
26/06/2008 12:48

sarah, if people are drinking and making use of reg's free taxi service then there would not be any cars. As for punch ups, screaming kids and swearing....I have been going since January and not seen any of that. You need to stop misinforming people and let everyone make their own minds up about the place

JulieSmith


Joined: 13/12/2007
Posts: 6

Message Posted:
26/06/2008 13:46

Finally found Elvis. He is Alive.

Danny Fisher will be performing at AL SHAHEEN tonight and Every Thursday, i have booked a table for 4 tonight. Anyone else coming , i buy you a drink.



Reg.

Ashraf told me if Elvis does not turn up, the Meals and Drinks will be on the house for us, he seems to be alright, not Greedy like other Bar Owners.



Bingo

The best Bingo in town now is at the Ozankoy Football Club in the Village, which is Every Tuesday, guaranted big prize money, and the club will not pocket the Snowball, they will donate it into the Ozankoy Football Club at end of Season.



Football

Best place to watch the Euro 2008 is the harbour, went their last Night, Massive Crowds and Great atmosphere.



JulieSmith

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
26/06/2008 14:21

pussycatuk



No i did not buy the stumble a guy called mick has ( geordie) a nice blokeit is closed on a monday.



Still have happy hours 12 - 3 everyday effes 2.5 for draught.



Yea think it would be a good idea to organise an outing to the darkside to bar 11 friday 25 yh or saturday the 26th ?

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
26/06/2008 14:38

I may well try the Bar 11 at some time in the near future.



Would prefer if Reg stopped using the forum as his advertising outlet for it. Word of mouth is the best way of promoting it, whether good or bad.



Reg please let me know when you get some decent lager on the pumps as tinned beer is only for home and alcoholic drinkers. Off forum response of course!



Boy Im thirsty now!

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
26/06/2008 17:17

littlesarah



Looking at the time of your post i guess you pased at around midday as stated in an earlier post we do not promote driving while under the influance may i suugest that instead of assuming because of the lack of cars around the bar we have no custom please call in i may buy you a drink

Last night there were not a lot of cars around most of our customers are very sensible and make use of our minibus last night we had a problem with glasses and we have a lot. and i would personally like to thank the customers who were serving other customers as our 6 members of staff couldnt cope with the demand we must be doing something right

As stated in a previous message the so called trouble makers were barred some 7 months ago

Re loud music its what our regulars enjoy its very difficult to please everybody but i wouldnt change what we are doing

Re kids a great rule in life if kids are happy mums and dads are happy and we have a lot of happy mums and dads



Juliesmith



iIreally hope you enjoy your meal tonight i am sure you will enjoy danny fisher he is a great entertainer i would love to join you but we will be too busy taking care of the football teams bingo customers who get every lira made from it and dont have to wait untill the end of the season they get it at the close of every thursday evening



Tiggy



As with a lot of bars Carlsberg and Efes are on draught

rcroton


Joined: 05/06/2008
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
26/06/2008 17:28

All this discussion is really making me want to be there now, unfortunetly not until August!! Julie you really should go down to my home town of Hull if you want to find a few good punch ups. Im sure bar 11 is much better than that!!

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
26/06/2008 17:46

rcroton



Where will you be staying when you are over



Reg

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
26/06/2008 20:41

do they not have draught jack daniels ???



Hey com on gov effes on draught ??

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
26/06/2008 20:56

Liittlenige



We do have jack daniels but you have no chance of being served with it as it is my favorite tipple and i would hate to run out second thoughts i will set you a drip feed up i will gladly share a bottle with you when you come and visit us



Reg

Esentepe


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1

Message Posted:
27/06/2008 01:45

Reg

I am thinking about using your Bus Service, could you please tell me if you Full insurance to Transport Customers to you Bar. I remember the time i used a Mini bus from One of the Restaurants in Bellapais, we got stopped by the Police as he did not have T Number plates (hopefully you have as if not this is a offence ) and so he was not insured to transport passengers, could you please let me now that you will be responsible for all liablities in case of a Accident - God forbid - before i use your service as i do not fancy getting locked up in a Cypriot Prison

Esentepe.

rcroton


Joined: 05/06/2008
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
27/06/2008 10:11

Gov,



I live in Catalkoy up past the olive tree at the top of the village, and counting down the days until i will be there!



Rich

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 01:26

Esentepe



As i said in an earlier post we do everything by the book all our vehicles are fully insured whether you are you are in a car or our minibus hope this puts your mind at ease



Donkey



Sorry not the same Reg



Rich



Give us a call if you want collecting



Reg

ishmail


Joined: 27/06/2008
Posts: 91

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 08:22

first post but dont it make u sick 2 hear things like TIM cad moaning on an on on on

he gone back 2 england may he be happy there he is no loss 2 us here an that mad bored woman who wants 2 save us all as well from changing our countrie maybe she shoud stay there as well, its our countrie now dont make me mad telling us whot we can and cant do her





your posts are becoming verbally aggressive and are being moderated if necessary they will be deleted please take heed .

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 08:57

ishmail , tim has gone , why is it such an issue for you ? and to make such derogatory remarks about any one person is not acceptable ,

simbas

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 11:42

Hey dudes chill out, have aneffes or 4 enjoy the sun sea and sand, all this teterone .................



Cill babes nd dudes.



Life is to short enjoy today as if it were your last.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 12:09

i don't think you are hitting the buttons hard enough littlenige ,

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 12:16

think you may be right simbas new keyboard may be needed.



Lol

tufty


Joined: 03/05/2008
Posts: 45

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 12:18

Ishmail



Nice comments i cannot understand why people come to this beautiful island and moan, being expats we must understand we are the foreigners and should live by the rules of our chosen residence.

Whats On


Joined: 28/06/2008
Posts: 4

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 14:35

Hi All,



The fabulous Anna MacArthur will perform live with her new band Samone.



They will be performing at Bar 11 Catalkoy, tonight Friday the 28th of June 2008 @ 9pm



Do yourself a favour and come down to see these guys perform, you will not be disappointed.



See you there

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
28/06/2008 15:35

typo think you measn saturday !!



Lol AND I THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY ME

Fudge


Joined: 30/06/2008
Posts: 2

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 09:34

Reg - Does Bar 11 have a website by any chance?

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 10:52

Fudge

Our website is in the process of being finished and should be up and running early next week



Reg

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 11:54

Called in at bar 11 on my way to ercan last night, not my sort of place it is very much a young persons place, kitchen and toilets were very clean 5 ytl for a bottle of effes ( a bit steep for me) a double jd 8 ttl thats ok but 2 ytl for a splash of sprite ( again a bit steep for me )



I can see why the young people like it I can see / hear also see why there is a problem with the neighbours.



A caring owner would do his best to minimise noise poloution to the local neighbourhood, good neighbours would also ralise the venu has to enertain the Young crowd.



COMPROMISE would seem to be the BUZZ word here.



Here endeth the lesson according to littlenige

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 14:27

Littlenige,



read your message of your visit to Bar11 with interest, did you get to share a bottle of Jack Daniels as advertised in message 109!!!



Looks like TC's concerns of noise have been confirmed. Th Gov seemed to put across that it was just a whinging overweight neighbour. If the boot was on the other foot I wonder if Reg would have liked to have been disturbed by music blaring out from a bar away in the distance. (I can comment on this as I have worked in noise pollution for the last 17 years and have just finished a shift weekend)



I have nothing against bar 11, but it is obviously a magnet for the young and good luck to them as they have to have some where to socialise etc. Usual trick of high prices for mainly people who do not earn high wages. pump the music up and it attracts people who think "hey that place sounds busy"



As reg stated he has put £300,000 in to his buisness and good luck to him. I have learned one thing in the job that I do is that a lot of publican/owners when approched use every excuse they can to try and justify loud music, bad behaviour/ children running around unsupervised and all the other bad practise etc that go on. Staff are the main one's to suffer over long periods of high amplified souind, this does lead to damage to hearing (FACT) so H&S has to be an issue here. Complain and see if you have a job afterwards!



Will now not be making the trip to Bar 11 myself as my days of pulling birds and loud music (whether I wanted it or not) are over!!



So gov, think of the neighbours, drop the prices for the teens and I hope you have success in your bar.



Cheers,



Tiggy.

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 15:13

Tiggy,



I did not make my self know just popped in to suss out the place and have a nosey.



I am glad I did not make a special trip, as I am no old fogey and can party with the best of em, to me it is an aya napa style twenty somthings bar.



"Will now not be making the trip to Bar 11 myself as my days of pulling birds and loud music (whether I wanted it or not) are over!! "



As are mine but window shopping can be fun.......................



Lol

Funinthesun


Joined: 17/03/2008
Posts: 48

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 16:32

Just out of interest, further up here we were told that Saturday night was Live Brits Night (or something like that). If Anna wasn't playing, who was? I assume Anna was cancelled because another act had been booked for the 28th. If of course there was no entertainment planned for that night then people expecting Live Brits night would have been disappointed.

lovelife


Joined: 07/07/2007
Posts: 231

Message Posted:
30/06/2008 21:01

Tiggy, Littlenige



There's many a good tune played on an old fiddle!!!!



LL

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
01/07/2008 01:55

Nige, don't they have drink driving laws in TRNC? Effes and Jack Daniels and a trip to Ercan. Not a good combination eh?

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
01/07/2008 10:30

W26kay you said



"Nige, don't they have drink driving laws in TRNC? Effes and Jack Daniels and a trip to Ercan. Not a good combination eh? "



I did not partake please re read mes 124 & 126



I commented on the price of 2 drinks I would partake of should I be in a position to.



Indeed there was an offer to take people home after a night out there I was being curious and popped in I did not make my self know and did not buy anything, I did have a good look round and from what I saw it was very clean and well staffed.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
01/07/2008 12:45

Thanks Lovelife

I had better tune myself up then!

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
01/07/2008 15:54

"Called in at bar 11 on my way to ercan last night, not my sort of place it is very much a young persons place, kitchen and toilets were very clean 5 ytl for a bottle of effes ( a bit steep for me) a double jd 8 ttl thats ok but 2 ytl for a splash of sprite ( again a bit steep for me ) "



I'm so glad you clarified that. It is so ambiguously worded!

Did you ask the barman the price, or, (unlike the UK) is there a tariff up on the wall?

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
01/07/2008 16:35

The prices are on the wall in several places, that in it's self is a change here.

The Gov


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 22

Message Posted:
06/07/2008 21:05

Hi All



Re 2ytl a splash we used to give the mixer free but as in all walks of life some people abuse freebies and would get a double in a tall glass and expect you to make it into a long drink which would take half a tin we encourage people to buy a tin at 3ytl and mix there own

Thanks to all our customers who have been over the last week we have had some great nights our bingo on thursday was the best yet 80 tickets sold with another 35 people drinking and eating, it is going from strength to strength and Duzkaya sport club are doing very well out of it with most winners donating a percentage of there winnings

This coming week the snowball is 46 numbers and hopefully a lucky punter will walk away with the 3000ytl prize



Hope to see you soon

Reg

blondegirl


Joined: 06/07/2008
Posts: 1

Message Posted:
07/07/2008 00:01

If you are looking for a Bar with a bit of class try Escape or Ice Bar. Entrance is free.

blondegirl

SAFFI


Joined: 01/07/2008
Posts: 342

Message Posted:
07/07/2008 08:09

or go south to ayia napa

rcroton


Joined: 05/06/2008
Posts: 192

Message Posted:
07/07/2008 08:11

Your joking ayia napa, like blackpool with sun that place!!!