british woman with turkish men

cypruschauffer


Joined: 26/09/2007
Posts: 116


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 05:45

i have noticed alot of british woman with turkish men here in cyprus.but what about the other way around,i have not seen any,does anyone have an answer for this?

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 177


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 06:38

Shirley Valentine.

Kantara



Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 192


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 07:14

I know one british man married with a cypriot lady and two Germans...

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 1568


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 07:45

hi kantara , poligamy still goes on then !!

Pools



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Posts: 111


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 07:45

i am a filipino and happily married with a cypriot man

Jo Valentine



Joined: 10/02/2008
Posts: 136


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 07:56

Hi Simbas

Nice one....

Good to have you back on form/forum.

You've still got your Email address hidden - I'd love to hear from you.

Cheers

Jo Valentine

(only related to Shirley in my dreams.......)

valentineremovals@hotmail.com

Kantara



Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 192


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 08:54

Hi Simbas...



off course!.....

simbas



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Posts: 1568


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 09:42

hi jo , i am considering coming out of the closet , i hid it after a certain someone was not behaving in a gentlemany way , hope all is well with you , i will re-launch myself soon

regards , pat

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 381


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 12:19

This is an interesting subject. When in England I noticed that many Jamaican men married really blonde British ladies and the same thing went for Turkish Cypriot men but examples the other way round were very few. Now I see a similar trend in Cyprus, north and south. I think the same thing happens with German and Scandinavian ladies but not say Spanish or Italian ladies.



This must be a very good and interesting question for sociologists and perhaps a good survey with penetrating qustions will reveal the real reason. I would hazard a guess:



Ladies from the more developed countries may prefer men from the less developed countries like Asia or Africa or Mediterranean countries simply because the men from these countries give a feeling of being more "manly" i.e. less refined and likely to act with more animal instincts. Perhaps this is the reason why these ladies are attracted to these men despite the dangers of marrying someone from a different culture.



Gosh, let us have your theories. Am I being too philosophical? I must say this is not my strong point

ismet

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 355


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 13:12

TC lads' chatup line.



"Have you any Turkish in you?



Would you like some?"



Lem :lol:

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 177


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 14:42

It's obvious - English women, of all ages, are know as being easy. This isn't me saying they are easy, I'm just saying what is generally believed to be the case.

Women from more conservative, less free countries/societies are know for being the opposite. Thats why you don't see young Cypriot girls going out with old English blokes (who would?)

Besides, girls can get a bloke anytime, the opposite is rarely the case.

lesleyd



Joined: 05/06/2007
Posts: 145


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 14:49

What a sexist comment that was, so if a woman says yes she is easy but if a man says yes what is he??.

Lemtich



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Posts: 355


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 15:09

Normal!



Lem

jock1


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Message Posted:
12/05/2008 15:12

Human !!!!

hattikins


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Message Posted:
12/05/2008 15:19

dreaming !!!

jock1


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Posts: 663


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 15:23

hoping !!!!!!!

wackyjim



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Posts: 421


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 15:41

Pissed!!!!!

lesleyd



Joined: 05/06/2007
Posts: 145


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 15:51

Very good answers guys...lol but I also think that TRNCVaughan remark could also be classed as a Racist remark, as an English woman myself I can asure TRNCVaughan that I sure aint no easy pickup and never have been and I am sure that quite a number of other English women will feel the same I think his remark is very insulting.

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 355


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 15:57

Are English women a race?



Don't know about that, Brits abroad do tend to have a certain reputation for drinking and procreation. That s why I avoid Ayia Napa like the plague!



Lem

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 1568


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 15:59

hi elko , i married a very well educated african 36 yrs ago , he comes from a well educated well established african family , so i have to disagree with the statement , less refined , he is very sophisticated and learned , being a doctor and a chartered director , which he has just sucessfully completed , i sometimes wonder what attracted us to each other , we are complete opposites he likes classical music ,theatre and debate , i like rock , the pictures and gossiping i am not a great brain { as some of my posts can verify } so i have to assume it was my ravishing good looks and dynamic personality that he could'nt resist , all jokes aside i feel very privilaged and lucky to find him we have had a long and very happy marriage , animal instincts ? can you be more precise ,

good luck with your survey , simbas

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 1568


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 16:21

hi trncvaughn , english women being easy ,what a derogatory remark , did you marry an english lady ? i wonder !!!{ i'm not english i'm welsh but i'm assuming you are referring to british women } very basic remarks , then to qualify it with , " this is'nt me saying they are easy " is a cop out ! , carry on with statements like this and you will not be very popular !!!!

simbas

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 381


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 19:54

Simbas,

First of all there are always exceptions. Secondly, I stated what I perceived, not necessarrily the truth and that is why I would be interested in a proper survey to find out the truth if possible. As for animal instincts, we must remember that our ancestors are monkeys. With the advance of civilisation and development, mankind began to refine his/her behaviour but this can differ from person to person. Different races may have different peculiarities and different traits in general although there can be great variance between individuals. The animal instinct in us is the one that causes us to behave more like animals. Such behaviour shows itself specially during a war between lifelong enemies i.e. during wars between Greeks and Turks, wars between Japanese and Chinese, Serbs and Kosovians etc. This is what I meant by animal instincts.

ismet

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 1405


Message Posted:
12/05/2008 20:06

Some very brave postings on this thread. Being a happily married man of some 40 years, I am told that I cannot comment on the subject.



While the wife is not listening, I am inclined to agree with wackyjim.



wynyardman

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 177


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 07:41

I repeat - I didn't say it was true that english women are easy, and I didn't say I agreed with it. I said there is a general belief, and it seems particularly among mediterranean men. I can't imagine how they got the idea.



What you have here is the Toy Boy - Sugar Daddy effect.



There are lads out there who get what they want from older, unattached women. The woman gets what she wants from the arrangement. As long as no-one gets hurt, everyones a winner.



Haven't you ever wondered what young girls see in 65 year old rock stars? It can't be to do with maturity as I have never heard of a supermodel going out with a 65 year old lorry driver.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 1568


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 08:19

hi trnc vaughan , i beg you parden if i misinterpreted your post { it would'nt be the first time } however maybe i worded it wrongly what i meant to say in a round about way , was , it was a shame you felt you had to repeat such a remark especially as you don't agree with it , { i'm trying to be diplomatic here , am i succeeding ? } money, money, money , i would assume that young men and women go for older successfull counterparts and the lifestyle that it brings , now i am not saying for one moment that it is right or wrong , but some would say its for the security and peace of mind that money brings , that these liasions are founded on , but it does'nt mean to say that all these people are easy , thats just my thought be it right or wrong !

have a good day , simbas

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 355


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 08:28

From the Mrs Merton Show when interviewing Debbie McGee married to a man 20 years older than her.



"What first attracted you to short, balding, millionaire Paul Daniels?" she asked?



I rest my case.



Lem

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 177


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 11:10

Hi Simbas,



Now you are putting words in my mouth.

When I said " I didn't say it was true that english women are easy, and I didn't say I agreed with it" I also didn't say that it wasn't true or that I disagreed with it either.



To "Money, money, money" I would add "sex, sex, sex". One, the other or both is what makes the world go round.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 1568


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 11:35

forgive me vaughan , if you think i'm putting words into your mouth { which ones are you talking of ? } am i being a bit vague here , your original words were" this is'nt me saying they are easy its just generally known to be the case ", i said it was a shame that you had to repeat remarks like this ,what are you saying then ?

regards , simbas

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 177


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 12:35

In your post No.25 you said "especially as you don't agree with it". I never said I didn't agree with it. Didn't say I did agree with it either though.

What I think is for me to know and for you to speculate about.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 361


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 13:00

Here we go again!!!!!



Would like to comment further but the spoken word is a lot better than the typed, as it is so easy to mis understand and get it wrong. Could be putting yourself in line to be considered rascist.



Tto be honest the original question is something I consider to be stupid and baiting others to get involved. (in my opinion and no reply's please)



Step back Simbas, it's not worth it, (enjoyed the chat)



Tiggy.



PS. when I an over in June, I would be more that honoured t o chat to the ladies from this beautifu Island!

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 1568


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 13:39

hi tiggy , will do

regards , pat

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1888


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 14:35

hi guys

now im gonna put a lot of people straight on this cos i experiance this all the time here in turkey!!!!!

first of all its sad to say but its true british women have a bit of a bad reputation in holiday resorts for the pure fact them aswell as men from the u.k go on holiday to have a good time and if thats including having a holiday fling then so be it they are old enough to make their own descisions

now the turkish mentality because most of them come from the villages to the holiday resorts all they see in the winter are female goats and donkeys they get all excited when they see a women and if one or two are having holiday flings they automatically think that all the women are the same which is wrong but thats how they think!!!!! (village mentality)

one thing that does surprise me but does not shock me is the amount of women of the mature age that are in relationships over here with a turkish man that are young enough to be their grandson, some know what they are getting in to either it be for money or just love!!!! if its love i will explain why this is because most turkish men get mothered for a long time and are in touch with their femine side because of this thats why they know what to say to a women either young or old

now on the other hand their are women out here that are older and have got money honestly think that this young turkish boy does love them either its too much sun or to much drink gets to their head cos as soon as they have gone they are on to the next victim i mean love



this leads me on to a story i have got a customer that i help a lot she is 70 years old but she dont look it she is very wealthy and a widow she has been coming to turkey for many years and for the last 2 years she has been with this turkish boy from a village in the north he is 21, she would buy him this and that, so one day me being curious and of course i speak my mind had to

ask her i said dont you think this boy is after just one thing because in his right mind he should be going after girls his own age, you know what she said to me she said ill buy him anything he wants because all my friends are jealous i stood there with a puzzled look and asked why is that then she answered me saying cos every night i get good sex and my friends cant stand it cos they are not getting any!!!! what could i say to that other than good luck to her cos she is going in to it with her eyes wide open

so as long as they know what they are doing good luck to them but the other percentage who dont i say to them open your eyes you would not give your money away freely in the u.k or wherever you come from so why do it where there is a bit of sun and sea for these people sorry to say i have no sympathey

warm regards

ukturk

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 381


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 15:45

ukturk,

It is easy to judge people but people and their requirements are not all the same. So it seems that this 70 yo lady is very active sexually even at her age and she uses her money for that kind of satisfaction.



Many many years ago the Sunday Times had conducted a survey about the sexual habbits of people and had statistics about the number of times couples had sex in a week for various age groups. There was this milkman who would do it every night and also once during lunch time and he considered himself normal!!!



The paper had classed people into ten groups from 1 to 10 depending on their sexual activity and had commented that if a lady from group 10 married a man from group 1, then it was inevitable that this lady would have extramarital affair. Of course now people mostly get to know each other better before marrying so it should reduce such occurences.

ismet

rtddci


Joined: 29/12/2007
Posts: 486


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 15:58

When this subject was discussed before someone suggested that what the young male was after was marriage, money and a UK passport.

Gooses


Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 57


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 16:58

Why anyone would want to move to the UK is beyond me! Now if I could secure a turkish passport to escape UK well.................... that could be a factor to answer your original post Cypruschauffer

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 1405


Message Posted:
13/05/2008 17:25

Hi All,



I am with Tiggy on this one! This posting, as is the one on black men and Turkish women are

not in my opinion suitable subjects for discussion on a general open forum. Answers are bound to have racialist undertones, and the questions(if well thought out in the first place are bound to be devisive) The questions are invasive, and are very much of a personal nature



Many people have responded but I would suggest...."fools rush in, where wise men fear to tread"



wynyardman

cypruschauffer


Joined: 26/09/2007
Posts: 116


Message Posted:
16/05/2008 06:25

interesting topic,i dont know of any british men with turkish women.i have seen turkish men with british women.i bet there must be many turkish ladys here without a partner!!!

ilovemydogs



Joined: 20/04/2008
Posts: 334


Message Posted:
16/05/2008 06:57

this reminds me of a friend of mine, a few years back she met a turkish man on holiday and came back engaged. we were all gob smacked and all thaught , he wants a passport. but , she was genuinally in LOVE. a few months later we all went on holiday with her to meet him, wery handsome we thaught, but she couldn't see what we could. he was not very attentive and was all over the place talking to everyone but her. but no she wouldn't listen she was convinced he loved her. at that time these young men had a reputation of just wanting the passport, and seeing him convinced me this is what he wanted. anyway to cut the story short , she went on her own a couple more times but a nice english lady who lived there opened her eyes for her. telling her that he had 2 german fiances and another english one on the go. that opened her eyes at last.

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 381


Message Posted:
16/05/2008 07:30

You should all listen to your mums and never speak to strangers

ismet

MCSTEVIET



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Posts: 695


Message Posted:
16/05/2008 12:37

What an interesting post, but I have no opinion either way..sorry



MC

roachie


Joined: 25/04/2008
Posts: 7


Message Posted:
16/05/2008 19:19

I live in Turkey and have a Turkish girlfriend. SOme of my friends also do. It is my opinion ( and its only sn opinion so don't slate me for it) is that many educated, intelligent, modern thinking women in Turkey are keen to go out with a N. European man as they perceive us as treating them better than Turkish men. As for Turkish men and foreign women I am afraid that (again this is my opinion) that they regard Western women as simply good for an easy lay before settling down with a Turkish woman. It seems to suit both parties so I suppose thats fair enough. The British embassy in Istanbul makes interesting reading. It posts all the British / Turkish marriages and almost without exception when an english man marries a Turkish women the couple are similar in age and educational / professional background. When it is an English woman and a Turkish man it is generally the case that the woman is much older and wealthier than the man. I hope this doesn't offend to many people, it is merely an observation.

kazzybe


Joined: 04/04/2008
Posts: 10


Message Posted:
17/05/2008 08:28

I have to say it is quite offensive to be called an easy lay just because you are British! It is a sweeping generalisation

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1888


Message Posted:
17/05/2008 09:03

hi kazzybe

i dont know why you shud be offended nobody is calling you a easy lay plus i would not think you would be sexually active at 12years old!!!! LOL LOL



ive been living in turkey aswell as cyprus for a very long time and have seen everything and what i said its not my thoughts but how the turkish men mentality is especially if they have come from the villiage (not modern thinking), because if a percentage come over for holiday flings thats down to them but at the end of the day the tukish men automatically think if i.e 60% are giving it up then the other 40% are also up for it which might not be the case



and im not be sexiest, men are exactly the same but when men come over to turkey or cyprus they are not sleeping with the locals (if they are a small percentage) they sleep with other tourists who are after holiday flings, where some women a percentage go with the locals so thats why the locals think generally all the women are up for it, which is wrong but sorry to say is the way!!!!

its not british women getting a bad name its most of the british youth getting a bad name just look at these club 18-30's and all these holiday programs showing kids drunk getting up to no good while they are on holiday!!!

i was young once and used to go on boys holidays but belive you me i would never think to act like that in public not alone on tv

regards

ukturk

libra


Joined: 01/06/2008
Posts: 9


Message Posted:
02/06/2008 17:49

lucky!!!

gottheyips


Joined: 28/12/2007
Posts: 164


Message Posted:
02/06/2008 18:17

live and let live.

janjin



Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 36


Message Posted:
02/06/2008 22:34

A person's outlook can be so more important than thier age. My better half is older than me but has a brilliant outlook on life.

eager


Joined: 23/02/2007
Posts: 83


Message Posted:
02/06/2008 22:49

Well said janlin, was at riverside village last year same time as you. had a few drinks with you and others too. Great couple you were, i know that you have both played rugby !!! Best of luck with your plans take care. Charles.

cypruschauffer


Joined: 26/09/2007
Posts: 116


Message Posted:
03/06/2008 05:25

it seems to me that the famaly of a turkish girl do not want them to marry a person that is not a muslim.thay dont seem to care if a cypriot man is with a british woman.

Zuhre


Joined: 25/05/2008
Posts: 70


Message Posted:
03/06/2008 09:36

Ladies don't give TRNCVaughan a hard time - he did not say anything we don't already know. Of course British women have a bad reputation abroad. It's a fact. I have three daughters, when I am in Cyprus the Turkish waiters are all over my 17 year old. Yes she is beautiful but let's face it, they would be all over her if she was pug ugly. Why? Because she is British, fair and blue eyed, they think she is easy. She is too young and inexperienced to understand what Turkish men are like. The crap they come out with ie., "when you go to bed at night look at the moon and know I will be thinking of you." Pull the other one! Of course a few choice words from me and they don't come near my daughter again. My nephew went to Mexico, pulled 10 girls in 10 nights. all British, all having boyfriends back in England. The girls are no worse than the boys, but it's acceptable for boys to behave like that. Why? It just is! So to summarise, why do british girls have a bad reputation when abroad? Because it's justified.

Hot Hornet



Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 295


Message Posted:
03/06/2008 10:16

Great post this one - very interesting reading - ukturk says it all in my opinion. As long as you have your eyes open then....... I had a Cypriot boyfriend for a year or so here, but in the end I just could not deal with the cultural differences, and attitude to family. Nothing wrong with it, I just couldn't deal with it - I am now trying to teach him that friendships can last even when a relationship can't. I just hope that there will be NO direct flights, having seen the state of some of the English girls coming into Larnaca!!!

Pools



Joined: 22/04/2008
Posts: 111


Message Posted:
03/06/2008 13:58

I am happily married with a turkish-cypriot man.We are happy together inspite of our culture and differences...we just learned how to compromised..understand each other...respect...and most of all love each other...

Hot Hornet



Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 295


Message Posted:
03/06/2008 14:46

thats nice to hear pools - hope you are happy for many years to come. X

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 563


Message Posted:
03/06/2008 15:10

I totally agree with tiggy and wynyardman, why is the topic being discussed. I shudder to think what would be said if the question was asked about 2 men or 2 women being partners.



Get back to what this BB is about supply of information with a little bit of humour thrown in.



Sorry folks, IMHO this is not a topic for this BB.