british woman with turkish men

cypruschauffer


Joined: 26/09/2007
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 07:45

i have noticed alot of british woman with turkish men here in cyprus.but what about the other way around,i have not seen any,does anyone have an answer for this?

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 08:38

Shirley Valentine.

Kantara


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 661

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 09:14

I know one british man married with a cypriot lady and two Germans...

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 09:45

hi kantara , poligamy still goes on then !!

Pools



Joined: 22/04/2008
Posts: 164

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 09:45

i am a filipino and happily married with a cypriot man

Jo Valentine


Joined: 10/02/2008
Posts: 508

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 09:56

Hi Simbas

Nice one....

Good to have you back on form/forum.

You've still got your Email address hidden - I'd love to hear from you.

Cheers

Jo Valentine

(only related to Shirley in my dreams.......)

valentineremovals@hotmail.com

Kantara


Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 661

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 10:54

Hi Simbas...



off course!.....

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 11:42

hi jo , i am considering coming out of the closet , i hid it after a certain someone was not behaving in a gentlemany way , hope all is well with you , i will re-launch myself soon

regards , pat

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 14:19

This is an interesting subject. When in England I noticed that many Jamaican men married really blonde British ladies and the same thing went for Turkish Cypriot men but examples the other way round were very few. Now I see a similar trend in Cyprus, north and south. I think the same thing happens with German and Scandinavian ladies but not say Spanish or Italian ladies.



This must be a very good and interesting question for sociologists and perhaps a good survey with penetrating qustions will reveal the real reason. I would hazard a guess:



Ladies from the more developed countries may prefer men from the less developed countries like Asia or Africa or Mediterranean countries simply because the men from these countries give a feeling of being more "manly" i.e. less refined and likely to act with more animal instincts. Perhaps this is the reason why these ladies are attracted to these men despite the dangers of marrying someone from a different culture.



Gosh, let us have your theories. Am I being too philosophical? I must say this is not my strong point

ismet

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 15:12

TC lads' chatup line.



"Have you any Turkish in you?



Would you like some?"



Lem :lol:

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 16:42

It's obvious - English women, of all ages, are know as being easy. This isn't me saying they are easy, I'm just saying what is generally believed to be the case.

Women from more conservative, less free countries/societies are know for being the opposite. Thats why you don't see young Cypriot girls going out with old English blokes (who would?)

Besides, girls can get a bloke anytime, the opposite is rarely the case.

lesleyd



Joined: 05/06/2007
Posts: 265

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 16:49

What a sexist comment that was, so if a woman says yes she is easy but if a man says yes what is he??.

Lemtich



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Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 17:09

Normal!



Lem

jock1



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Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 17:12

Human !!!!

hattikins


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Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 17:19

dreaming !!!

jock1



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Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 17:23

hoping !!!!!!!

wackyjim



Joined: 04/06/2007
Posts: 760

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 17:41

Pissed!!!!!

lesleyd



Joined: 05/06/2007
Posts: 265

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 17:51

Very good answers guys...lol but I also think that TRNCVaughan remark could also be classed as a Racist remark, as an English woman myself I can asure TRNCVaughan that I sure aint no easy pickup and never have been and I am sure that quite a number of other English women will feel the same I think his remark is very insulting.

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 17:57

Are English women a race?



Don't know about that, Brits abroad do tend to have a certain reputation for drinking and procreation. That s why I avoid Ayia Napa like the plague!



Lem

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 17:59

hi elko , i married a very well educated african 36 yrs ago , he comes from a well educated well established african family , so i have to disagree with the statement , less refined , he is very sophisticated and learned , being a doctor and a chartered director , which he has just sucessfully completed , i sometimes wonder what attracted us to each other , we are complete opposites he likes classical music ,theatre and debate , i like rock , the pictures and gossiping i am not a great brain { as some of my posts can verify } so i have to assume it was my ravishing good looks and dynamic personality that he could'nt resist , all jokes aside i feel very privilaged and lucky to find him we have had a long and very happy marriage , animal instincts ? can you be more precise ,

good luck with your survey , simbas

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 18:21

hi trncvaughn , english women being easy ,what a derogatory remark , did you marry an english lady ? i wonder !!!{ i'm not english i'm welsh but i'm assuming you are referring to british women } very basic remarks , then to qualify it with , " this is'nt me saying they are easy " is a cop out ! , carry on with statements like this and you will not be very popular !!!!

simbas

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 21:54

Simbas,

First of all there are always exceptions. Secondly, I stated what I perceived, not necessarrily the truth and that is why I would be interested in a proper survey to find out the truth if possible. As for animal instincts, we must remember that our ancestors are monkeys. With the advance of civilisation and development, mankind began to refine his/her behaviour but this can differ from person to person. Different races may have different peculiarities and different traits in general although there can be great variance between individuals. The animal instinct in us is the one that causes us to behave more like animals. Such behaviour shows itself specially during a war between lifelong enemies i.e. during wars between Greeks and Turks, wars between Japanese and Chinese, Serbs and Kosovians etc. This is what I meant by animal instincts.

ismet

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
12/05/2008 22:06

Some very brave postings on this thread. Being a happily married man of some 40 years, I am told that I cannot comment on the subject.



While the wife is not listening, I am inclined to agree with wackyjim.



wynyardman

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 09:41

I repeat - I didn't say it was true that english women are easy, and I didn't say I agreed with it. I said there is a general belief, and it seems particularly among mediterranean men. I can't imagine how they got the idea.



What you have here is the Toy Boy - Sugar Daddy effect.



There are lads out there who get what they want from older, unattached women. The woman gets what she wants from the arrangement. As long as no-one gets hurt, everyones a winner.



Haven't you ever wondered what young girls see in 65 year old rock stars? It can't be to do with maturity as I have never heard of a supermodel going out with a 65 year old lorry driver.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 10:19

hi trnc vaughan , i beg you parden if i misinterpreted your post { it would'nt be the first time } however maybe i worded it wrongly what i meant to say in a round about way , was , it was a shame you felt you had to repeat such a remark especially as you don't agree with it , { i'm trying to be diplomatic here , am i succeeding ? } money, money, money , i would assume that young men and women go for older successfull counterparts and the lifestyle that it brings , now i am not saying for one moment that it is right or wrong , but some would say its for the security and peace of mind that money brings , that these liasions are founded on , but it does'nt mean to say that all these people are easy , thats just my thought be it right or wrong !

have a good day , simbas

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 10:28

From the Mrs Merton Show when interviewing Debbie McGee married to a man 20 years older than her.



"What first attracted you to short, balding, millionaire Paul Daniels?" she asked?



I rest my case.



Lem

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 13:10

Hi Simbas,



Now you are putting words in my mouth.

When I said " I didn't say it was true that english women are easy, and I didn't say I agreed with it" I also didn't say that it wasn't true or that I disagreed with it either.



To "Money, money, money" I would add "sex, sex, sex". One, the other or both is what makes the world go round.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 13:35

forgive me vaughan , if you think i'm putting words into your mouth { which ones are you talking of ? } am i being a bit vague here , your original words were" this is'nt me saying they are easy its just generally known to be the case ", i said it was a shame that you had to repeat remarks like this ,what are you saying then ?

regards , simbas

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 14:35

In your post No.25 you said "especially as you don't agree with it". I never said I didn't agree with it. Didn't say I did agree with it either though.

What I think is for me to know and for you to speculate about.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 15:00

Here we go again!!!!!



Would like to comment further but the spoken word is a lot better than the typed, as it is so easy to mis understand and get it wrong. Could be putting yourself in line to be considered rascist.



Tto be honest the original question is something I consider to be stupid and baiting others to get involved. (in my opinion and no reply's please)



Step back Simbas, it's not worth it, (enjoyed the chat)



Tiggy.



PS. when I an over in June, I would be more that honoured t o chat to the ladies from this beautifu Island!

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 15:39

hi tiggy , will do

regards , pat

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 16:35

hi guys

now im gonna put a lot of people straight on this cos i experiance this all the time here in turkey!!!!!

first of all its sad to say but its true british women have a bit of a bad reputation in holiday resorts for the pure fact them aswell as men from the u.k go on holiday to have a good time and if thats including having a holiday fling then so be it they are old enough to make their own descisions

now the turkish mentality because most of them come from the villages to the holiday resorts all they see in the winter are female goats and donkeys they get all excited when they see a women and if one or two are having holiday flings they automatically think that all the women are the same which is wrong but thats how they think!!!!! (village mentality)

one thing that does surprise me but does not shock me is the amount of women of the mature age that are in relationships over here with a turkish man that are young enough to be their grandson, some know what they are getting in to either it be for money or just love!!!! if its love i will explain why this is because most turkish men get mothered for a long time and are in touch with their femine side because of this thats why they know what to say to a women either young or old

now on the other hand their are women out here that are older and have got money honestly think that this young turkish boy does love them either its too much sun or to much drink gets to their head cos as soon as they have gone they are on to the next victim i mean love



this leads me on to a story i have got a customer that i help a lot she is 70 years old but she dont look it she is very wealthy and a widow she has been coming to turkey for many years and for the last 2 years she has been with this turkish boy from a village in the north he is 21, she would buy him this and that, so one day me being curious and of course i speak my mind had to

ask her i said dont you think this boy is after just one thing because in his right mind he should be going after girls his own age, you know what she said to me she said ill buy him anything he wants because all my friends are jealous i stood there with a puzzled look and asked why is that then she answered me saying cos every night i get good sex and my friends cant stand it cos they are not getting any!!!! what could i say to that other than good luck to her cos she is going in to it with her eyes wide open

so as long as they know what they are doing good luck to them but the other percentage who dont i say to them open your eyes you would not give your money away freely in the u.k or wherever you come from so why do it where there is a bit of sun and sea for these people sorry to say i have no sympathey

warm regards

ukturk

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 17:45

ukturk,

It is easy to judge people but people and their requirements are not all the same. So it seems that this 70 yo lady is very active sexually even at her age and she uses her money for that kind of satisfaction.



Many many years ago the Sunday Times had conducted a survey about the sexual habbits of people and had statistics about the number of times couples had sex in a week for various age groups. There was this milkman who would do it every night and also once during lunch time and he considered himself normal!!!



The paper had classed people into ten groups from 1 to 10 depending on their sexual activity and had commented that if a lady from group 10 married a man from group 1, then it was inevitable that this lady would have extramarital affair. Of course now people mostly get to know each other better before marrying so it should reduce such occurences.

ismet

rtddci


Joined: 29/12/2007
Posts: 842

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 17:58

When this subject was discussed before someone suggested that what the young male was after was marriage, money and a UK passport.

Gooses


Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 60

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 18:58

Why anyone would want to move to the UK is beyond me! Now if I could secure a turkish passport to escape UK well.................... that could be a factor to answer your original post Cypruschauffer

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
13/05/2008 19:25

Hi All,



I am with Tiggy on this one! This posting, as is the one on black men and Turkish women are

not in my opinion suitable subjects for discussion on a general open forum. Answers are bound to have racialist undertones, and the questions(if well thought out in the first place are bound to be devisive) The questions are invasive, and are very much of a personal nature



Many people have responded but I would suggest...."fools rush in, where wise men fear to tread"



wynyardman

cypruschauffer


Joined: 26/09/2007
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
16/05/2008 08:25

interesting topic,i dont know of any british men with turkish women.i have seen turkish men with british women.i bet there must be many turkish ladys here without a partner!!!

ilovemydogs



Joined: 20/04/2008
Posts: 514

Message Posted:
16/05/2008 08:57

this reminds me of a friend of mine, a few years back she met a turkish man on holiday and came back engaged. we were all gob smacked and all thaught , he wants a passport. but , she was genuinally in LOVE. a few months later we all went on holiday with her to meet him, wery handsome we thaught, but she couldn't see what we could. he was not very attentive and was all over the place talking to everyone but her. but no she wouldn't listen she was convinced he loved her. at that time these young men had a reputation of just wanting the passport, and seeing him convinced me this is what he wanted. anyway to cut the story short , she went on her own a couple more times but a nice english lady who lived there opened her eyes for her. telling her that he had 2 german fiances and another english one on the go. that opened her eyes at last.

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
16/05/2008 09:30

You should all listen to your mums and never speak to strangers

ismet

McSteviet



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Posts: 1089

Message Posted:
16/05/2008 14:37

What an interesting post, but I have no opinion either way..sorry



MC

roachie


Joined: 25/04/2008
Posts: 31

Message Posted:
16/05/2008 21:19

I live in Turkey and have a Turkish girlfriend. SOme of my friends also do. It is my opinion ( and its only sn opinion so don't slate me for it) is that many educated, intelligent, modern thinking women in Turkey are keen to go out with a N. European man as they perceive us as treating them better than Turkish men. As for Turkish men and foreign women I am afraid that (again this is my opinion) that they regard Western women as simply good for an easy lay before settling down with a Turkish woman. It seems to suit both parties so I suppose thats fair enough. The British embassy in Istanbul makes interesting reading. It posts all the British / Turkish marriages and almost without exception when an english man marries a Turkish women the couple are similar in age and educational / professional background. When it is an English woman and a Turkish man it is generally the case that the woman is much older and wealthier than the man. I hope this doesn't offend to many people, it is merely an observation.

kazzybe


Joined: 04/04/2008
Posts: 21

Message Posted:
17/05/2008 10:28

I have to say it is quite offensive to be called an easy lay just because you are British! It is a sweeping generalisation

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
17/05/2008 11:03

hi kazzybe

i dont know why you shud be offended nobody is calling you a easy lay plus i would not think you would be sexually active at 12years old!!!! LOL LOL



ive been living in turkey aswell as cyprus for a very long time and have seen everything and what i said its not my thoughts but how the turkish men mentality is especially if they have come from the villiage (not modern thinking), because if a percentage come over for holiday flings thats down to them but at the end of the day the tukish men automatically think if i.e 60% are giving it up then the other 40% are also up for it which might not be the case



and im not be sexiest, men are exactly the same but when men come over to turkey or cyprus they are not sleeping with the locals (if they are a small percentage) they sleep with other tourists who are after holiday flings, where some women a percentage go with the locals so thats why the locals think generally all the women are up for it, which is wrong but sorry to say is the way!!!!

its not british women getting a bad name its most of the british youth getting a bad name just look at these club 18-30's and all these holiday programs showing kids drunk getting up to no good while they are on holiday!!!

i was young once and used to go on boys holidays but belive you me i would never think to act like that in public not alone on tv

regards

ukturk

libra


Joined: 01/06/2008
Posts: 9

Message Posted:
02/06/2008 19:49

lucky!!!

gottheyips


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Posts: 444

Message Posted:
02/06/2008 20:17

live and let live.

janjin



Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 488

Message Posted:
03/06/2008 00:34

A person's outlook can be so more important than thier age. My better half is older than me but has a brilliant outlook on life.

eager


Joined: 23/02/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
03/06/2008 00:49

Well said janlin, was at riverside village last year same time as you. had a few drinks with you and others too. Great couple you were, i know that you have both played rugby !!! Best of luck with your plans take care. Charles.

cypruschauffer


Joined: 26/09/2007
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
03/06/2008 07:25

it seems to me that the famaly of a turkish girl do not want them to marry a person that is not a muslim.thay dont seem to care if a cypriot man is with a british woman.

Zuhre


Joined: 25/05/2008
Posts: 72

Message Posted:
03/06/2008 11:36

Ladies don't give TRNCVaughan a hard time - he did not say anything we don't already know. Of course British women have a bad reputation abroad. It's a fact. I have three daughters, when I am in Cyprus the Turkish waiters are all over my 17 year old. Yes she is beautiful but let's face it, they would be all over her if she was pug ugly. Why? Because she is British, fair and blue eyed, they think she is easy. She is too young and inexperienced to understand what Turkish men are like. The crap they come out with ie., "when you go to bed at night look at the moon and know I will be thinking of you." Pull the other one! Of course a few choice words from me and they don't come near my daughter again. My nephew went to Mexico, pulled 10 girls in 10 nights. all British, all having boyfriends back in England. The girls are no worse than the boys, but it's acceptable for boys to behave like that. Why? It just is! So to summarise, why do british girls have a bad reputation when abroad? Because it's justified.

Hot Hornet


Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 343

Message Posted:
03/06/2008 12:16

Great post this one - very interesting reading - ukturk says it all in my opinion. As long as you have your eyes open then....... I had a Cypriot boyfriend for a year or so here, but in the end I just could not deal with the cultural differences, and attitude to family. Nothing wrong with it, I just couldn't deal with it - I am now trying to teach him that friendships can last even when a relationship can't. I just hope that there will be NO direct flights, having seen the state of some of the English girls coming into Larnaca!!!

Pools



Joined: 22/04/2008
Posts: 164

Message Posted:
03/06/2008 15:58

I am happily married with a turkish-cypriot man.We are happy together inspite of our culture and differences...we just learned how to compromised..understand each other...respect...and most of all love each other...

Hot Hornet


Joined: 03/06/2008
Posts: 343

Message Posted:
03/06/2008 16:46

thats nice to hear pools - hope you are happy for many years to come. X

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
03/06/2008 17:10

I totally agree with tiggy and wynyardman, why is the topic being discussed. I shudder to think what would be said if the question was asked about 2 men or 2 women being partners.



Get back to what this BB is about supply of information with a little bit of humour thrown in.



Sorry folks, IMHO this is not a topic for this BB.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 12:46

Elko: "perhaps a good survey with penetrating qustions"



Does it have to go as far as that?

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 14:44

Private Pike of Dad's Army: You can take part in the survey but better leave me out, I am in trouble as it is ;)

ismet

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 15:20

Interfaith marriages are great, but consideration of the children must be uppermost an your minds. When there are two religons in a family children are the ones who may get hurt the most and may get confused. Decisions would have to be made as to what faith the child is to be brought up in. Whether they go to the mosque, temple or church. If the parents are each following their own faith where do the children go? If they follow one parent there could be all sorts of problems.



Just my opinion.

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 17:03

Doyen,



The words of the great Frank Zappa may have some resonance here. "The best thing you can do for your children is keep them away from churches."

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 17:23

I liked his quote - "It is always advisable to be a loser if you cannot become a winner."

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 17:31

But his best one was: "Stupidity has a certain charm - ignorance does not”.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 18:02

This was Frank Zappa's quote regarding children and the church -Children are naïve -- they trust everyone. School is bad enough, but, if you put a child anywhere in the vicinity of a church, you're asking for trouble.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 18:09

And who lives their lives according to Frank Zappa?

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
24/09/2008 18:16

No one I know, thats for sure.

limony777


Joined: 12/09/2008
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
25/09/2008 12:33

It could be that it is more accepted for a man to marry out of his nationality but for a woman its harder for it to be accepted i guess. Maybe its expected of Turkish woman to marry Turkish but for men they dont get so much hassle i guess. This is all just a guess of course. I dont really think theres much to it other than theres more turkish men with a different nationality woman than there are woman with a different nationality man?!

kimosh


Joined: 09/08/2008
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
25/09/2008 12:55

mmmmmmmmmmmmm very interesting post this one have to say ..... i agree a lot of turkish young men are intersted in passport to england .... but that is not true in all cases ..... and hey have you seen the turkish ladies when they hit 50 omg ...... no wonder they look at the english ladies ....must be the med blood i guess ..... and to many bad commments about the english woman ... i know a few men that are not angels infact men are worse than the woman english i mean and the cypriot men are worse i would say 8 out of 10 cypriot men are sleeping about thats a high amount compared to whom ? if the cap fits wear it

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
25/09/2008 13:12

i would say 8 out of 10 cypriot men are sleeping about.



Sleeping about where?

kimosh


Joined: 09/08/2008
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
25/09/2008 13:18

hahahahahaha what ya want to know where they go lol .... ask one hey dont think they would be honest with ya

kimosh


Joined: 09/08/2008
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
25/09/2008 13:31

well at least i have woke you up today lol ....how boring everyone is living in the mist

Elliecy


Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 153

Message Posted:
25/09/2008 13:36

Not sure if this is right or not, but someone told me that it was ok for muslim men to marry someone who is non-muslim, but muslim women can't marry someone who isn't muslim, as apparently it is the male that carries the religion forward (or something like that)?! If that's correct, it could be the reason why you see a lot of Turkish men with English women, but not Turkish women with English men..?

PtePike



Joined: 20/05/2008
Posts: 2334

Message Posted:
25/09/2008 13:37

"if the cap fits wear it "



I'm all in favour of precautions but they're so damn small in Cyprus...

kimosh


Joined: 09/08/2008
Posts: 193

Message Posted:
25/09/2008 13:47

Elliecy ..... no religon doesnt come into it either way here ... you can get married either way

Elliecy


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Posts: 153

Message Posted:
25/09/2008 14:18

Oh well, I'll go with my second thought then - it all comes down to money!

Turbo


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Posts: 833

Message Posted:
25/09/2008 18:40

One of the reasons you don't see too many Turkish women with foreigners, is there upbringing.

The girls are brought up on a much stricter scale than the boys are, the girls do not get much freedom and the whole "namis" (Elko help me out here) not sure the English word for that is, maybe family "respect" and pure.

They have it pounded into their heads that hey have to marry a Muslim , preferably a TC. Usually chaperoned out and about, they are getting a lot more freedom today than they ever used.

The way they dress today, their grandmothers are turning in their graves.

There are the odd one or two that grew up in the UK that have moved out of that mould.

Its easier to accept a foreign female into the family than a male.

dy1259


Joined: 10/08/2007
Posts: 357

Message Posted:
25/09/2008 18:55

Turbo,

It's not, TCs must marry a muslim, it was, must marry TC. TCs generally are not religious, so religion in my experience was irrelevant. In the UK, although the boys were allowed to go out with girls, marriage to anyone not TC was very much discouraged. However, many from my generation did marry English girls. The TC girls were not allowed out with boys. Though my parents were never strict about how I dressed, in my case jeans and t-shirts but mini-skirts and open tops were acceptable when I wore them. Same for my cousins.



I could be one of the few exceptions of my generation who married an English man (met my husband at work). Religion has never been a problem, neither us nor our families is religious. All my family (including extended family) regard my husband highly.



As you say, it's not quite so strict now both within and outside the TRNC.

Turbo


Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 833

Message Posted:
25/09/2008 19:04

Dy1259, I too have an English brother in law and a sister in law,,my sister grew up in UK, she is the only one never got treated badly by the husband. I am not saying TC men are abusers, just that the other sisters were not that lucky.



I stand corrected you are right, it is TC and not Muslim enforced.

Went through it myself but growing up England/America gives you a different freedom and Imarried an American, my older brother married an English girl. They all all loved dearly by the rest of the family..

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
25/09/2008 19:40

Roachie posted "The British embassy in Istanbul makes interesting reading. It posts all the British / Turkish marriages and almost without exception when an english man marries a Turkish women the couple are similar in age and educational / professional background. When it is an English woman and a Turkish man it is generally the case that the woman is much older and wealthier than the man."





My partner is half TC of a similar age, educational and professional background, and therefore I must be an exception!LOL

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
26/09/2008 11:18

Kay,

I thought he was wholly a TC, am I wrong? Wht is the other half, I am just a curious busy body

ismet

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
26/09/2008 23:38

Ismet. You are very nosey! LOL. English. I am not saying which half is which BTW

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
27/09/2008 01:45

When I lived/worked in Istanbul I knew a Turkish woman who was married to an American much older than herself. She was ex police, and told me that her

father was strong-minded enough to tell others that he approved it. Also, one

of my colleagues, English, managed to marry a Turkish girl. Her father watched him, and as his behaviour was correct for their culture (i.e. no sex

before marriage) he consented to the marriage. I must say he was no Adonis

but he was decent and honest. Prior importance for daughter's future.

scampy



Joined: 15/01/2008
Posts: 982

Message Posted:
27/09/2008 14:32

hi all

My experience of turkish men is they all lie and cheat they they have no respect for wemon what so ever

no1doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
27/09/2008 18:24

scampy, how many Turkish men have you been out with?

scampy



Joined: 15/01/2008
Posts: 982

Message Posted:
27/09/2008 18:43

not that many

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
27/09/2008 18:52

Well Scampy, please don,t tar them all with the same brush, you may have met some unpleasant ones but that can happen the world over, the majority of them that we have met are good, decent blokes.

scampy



Joined: 15/01/2008
Posts: 982

Message Posted:
27/09/2008 19:55

Hattikins

They all are till you start to get to know them intimatly

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
27/09/2008 20:47

what ! all of them ?????

scampy



Joined: 15/01/2008
Posts: 982

Message Posted:
27/09/2008 21:13

Hi Simbas

The ones I have been out with, dont get me wrong its still single figures

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
28/09/2008 01:42

No don't tar all with same brush. I loved a man in Istnanbul and

he was a real gentleman. Kind, considerate, and all that I would want

in any man. Plus he was tall, good-looking and..super. in every way.

I was lucky as I met him by accident, but don't despair, keep yourself strong

w26kay



Joined: 14/10/2007
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
28/09/2008 03:07

Well mine is gorgeous in every way, but perhaps I am just a lucky girl?



I am so sorry you have had problems scampy, but for sure they are not all the same. You get good and bad in every nationality.



I could say beware of Italians, I was married to one for 20 years but that would be wrong. because Italians on the whole are really nice, I just had a bad experience of just one.



Does one bad apple spoils the whole bunch? Actually....No.

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
28/09/2008 08:41

w26kay,



And it took you 20 years to find out?

Was he bad from the begining or was it being married for 20 years that made him that way?

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
28/09/2008 08:49

there is nothing wrong with having a toy boy, my wife says so !!