Snowball, Poppy and Princess Diamond in deadly danger

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 08:03

(Text and pics uploaded on request - Hans Doeleman)



"People in our area have threatened to poison/shoot our beloved family pets. We need to find homes for them urgently. It is heartbreaking but the alternative is that they will be murdered. So: "Snowball, Poppy and Princess Diamond need homes or risk being murdered"."



Please contact Mel if you can help: 0533 855 5659 or mail: melaniepartington@hotmail.com (Pogle).

Pictures here: http://is.gd/4WOat and here: http://is.gd/4WOfD

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 08:35

Sorry but if they are Mel's pets, why are they being threatened?

smithy


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 08:49

They cant just threaten to kill them, something must be done what has Mel done about it

Pogle


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 09:46

The neighbours have been teasing Snowball over our garden wall when we are out, especially the local children. We have asked them not to but they persist. Snowball is obviously very frustrated and barks at them. The garden is secure for Snowball but on a few occasions he has got out as we are opening the gate and goes for a run about and barks at the neighbours who have been teasing him. Poppy and Princess Diamond have been accused of shoe theft and an allegation of a hen attack ( we have offered to pay for any loss/damage). All the neighbours seem to be on the bandwaggon now making compensation claims, the price of a chicken has risen from 10TL cooked in Starling Market to 15TL live in Baspinar, seems Poppy has a penchant for Nike Air Trainers....

The mob have advised, in the presence of the police that if any of the dogs are seen outside our property they will be shot. I am also afraid that the neighbours may throw poisoned meat over our wall when we are not here.

dozza67


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 09:58

Shame on these people, telling lies to get money/goods out of you. They should hang their heads. I hope you find a solution soon.

daisy dukes


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 10:04

Can't you 'dog proof' the garden...a small expense if it saves them....



DD

Pogle


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 10:35

Daisy, due to the size of the garden it would cost in excess of £1000 to raise all the perimeter walls/ add railings/fencing.

Tinkie


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 14:32

Any luck Pogle? I have my fingers crossed that your beautiful dogs get rehomed quickly. x

Pogle


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 19:18

No luck today Tinkie, but only day one I guess.

daisy dukes


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 19:37

Although it's not ideal, but can you tie them up for a while, at least far enough way from a nasty neighbour, until you find a solution



DD

matula


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 19:51

Between garden sheds and threats against animals Baspinar must be a hell of a place to live in! Hope all goes well with your pets.

Pogle


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Message Posted:
17/11/2009 21:25

Matula, Baspinar is not bad on good day, the scenery here is lovely - you could almost be somewhere else...!

Thank you Daisy for your suggestion, this was of course our first action after the mob visits of last night.

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 07:14

dont have pets if you cant look after them im supprised that dutch with all his big talk and threatening attitude on here cant deal with this on his own all talk and no trousers springs to mind put the animals out of thier misery instead of making them someone elses problem

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 07:50

I have an easy solution, just put them inside your house, that way they are safe.

Hippo


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 07:58

I would like to hear the neighbours side of the story before commenting.

Tinkie


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 08:26

The latest responses on this board are typical of the type of crap I have come to expect from many people here. Quite obviously an animal loving person like Mel ( see some of her previous posts before you judge) who will desperately try to find a new home for their animals rather than see them poisoned or shot by their neighbours, would have done everything they possibly could to salvage the situation before this last resort.



Racoonchic, why even bother posting if you cant help? Put them out of their misery before making them someone elses problem??? Lovely...what empathy and charity you have shown. I only hope that someone would be as kind to you if there was an imminent threat of the animals that you love being poisoned, a slow and painful death.



Mel, I really hope that someone can help you very soon to rehome these beautiful dogs...take heart that not everyone is as harsh as this and some lovely people came forward to help whilst I was trying to rehome Flossie.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 08:57

RE msg 13, racoonchic: (...) dutch with all his big talk and threatening attitude on here cant deal with this on his own all talk and no trousers springs to mind (...)

=> Ah! "racoonchic" thinks he can have another minute of glory attacking the Dutchman again. Well, you've never been my favourite intellectual, but this time you've proven yourself a malicious fool. I'm afraid I have to shout to you: THEY ARE NOT *MY* DOGS, STUPID. Read the very first line in the very first post of this thread.

P.S. Reactions like racoonchic's make me sometimes wonder why I bother to try to help - but I won't be silenced by people like him.

simbas



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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 09:04

Don't mind people like racoonchic Hans . At least you are helping ! what is he doing ? just trying to ridicule people for having a heart and trying to do something positive to help

Don't stop Hans ! you're worth your weight in gold , Pat

Lilli



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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 09:10

Hans you keep up the good work. You do so much and without letting people know. Let the sad people have thier say, it keeps the cause on top xxxTrying to think of a way around all this for Mel, also Trudy and me with the little fellow who walked in today x

Pogle


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 09:28

Thank you to all of you who have been supportive. All options have been explored regarding keeping the dogs safe, all require some sort of restraint/confinement. In my opinion that is no life for a dog and I am hoping to find them a place where they can be safe and have some freedom.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 09:33

Don't give up, Pogle! Sometimes it takes more than a day - but often a solution is found! bttt

adagirl


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 09:43

If you cannot keep them indoors, why not make them a chain link "run" in the garden, away from your boundary walls and only allow full access to the garden when you are at home? Its pretty cheap per meter as are the angle iron stakes that you attach it to. My dog is kept indoors while I am at work even though the garden is dog proof, simply because I don't want anyone to have "access" to him while I am not there. If he does bark at anyone nearby I immediately call him indoors. Perhaps its a training issue?



As for the chickens, a hen that kept by villagers is usually an egg layer, hence it will be more expensive than a cooked one at the supermarket, as they have lost a source of income!!

Cont.....

adagirl


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 09:45

To threaten with shooting is normal if the dogs are killing livestock (they do in the UK too), but teasing and threatening poison is not!! I would keep them shut in until the hoo-ha dies down and only let them out under strict supervision. Outline your action plan to the neighbours, the dogs will soon get used to it, and you can then keep your pets.

daisy dukes


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 12:42

Jolly good idea adagirl....this is exactly the kind of solution that would work superbly!! I also think a they should offer an enormous piece of humble pie with an explanation as to what they will do. Happy neighbours will prevail once again....hopefully.



DD

rigsby


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 12:59

Perhaps muzzles until you can sort the problem out? I have witnessed the result of poison and it was very distressing.

adagirl


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 13:52

Please keep your dogs with you, believe me they are very adaptable and would rather be you than possibly split up - 1 dog is hard to re-home let alone 3. With regards freedom, a good excerise with you every day would be ok. If your dogs are a nuisance (which - escaping and barking at people and possibly killing livestock) they seem to be - then this will also make people think twice about re-homing. Dogs are not small humans - they will be fine kept indoors or in an enclosed area (a pen). Or is it that you cannot cope with them?

Pogle


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 15:28

Adagirl, thank you for your advice on dogcare/neighbourhood issues, some of which I find rather patronising. I am not a complete cretin, I know the neighbours have every right to be upset about our dogs chasing their chickens and lifting their slippers. We had no idea anyone had chickens running loose in our neighbourhood. The owner of the chickens has now apologised to us for his outburst and no charge was made. We are talking about a 4 month old puppy and a small Cyprus terrier here, not a pack of savage man eating wolves. Anyone who has met "Poppy" will know she is a very sweet dog and these visitations stating her deviant behaviour were a surprise to us. Regarding the barking,hey dogs bark, just like the other 50 neighbourhood barking/howling dogs. I am asking for a secure and loving home for the dogs, they can be separated, judging by your comments we are totally unfit as owners anyway.

Pogle


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 15:39

con'td

Just to be clear:

Poppy was a rescue dog, we found on the street, she was 2 weeks from giving birth. We rehomed all the puppies, which was not easy. Snowball was also facing a sticky end when we took him on. We also have 4 cats.



With all respect, you do not understand the local politics of this area and who we are dealing with.



We do not want to chain our dogs up all day, we want them to have secure homes out of danger. If you can help us with this I would be grateful.

daisy dukes


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 16:43

Pogle, i do not think that adagirl was being patronising at all, i believe that she was merely trying to offer up some solutions, which i thought were very reasonable. I understand chaining dogs up all day is not the best idea, but the chainlink pen she suggested was. This way they can still stretch their legs and combining that with a lovely long walk (on the leash) should suffice until you find someone to take them, or maybe to improve on the dog proofing of the garden at a later stage. These were merely (good) suggestions and i do not think any meaness was meant by it,



DD

adagirl


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 16:49

I certainly did not mean to be patronising - I was merely trying to help you with suggestions as to how to keep your dogs! Many dog lovers seem to have this idea that keeping a dog confined is cruel. In my opinion it is not, especially if it helps to keep the dog (and others around him) safe. If it is your preference to see your dogs go, rather than have them confined when they are alone on the property, then it is your choice. I sincerely hope that you can re-home them.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 17:07

Ladies, shall we concentrate on the rehoming of two dogs?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 17:24

Ah! Msg 31, that makes you think, eh? Two dogs or three dogs? Read the thread from start to finish - no more "ideas and suggestions" - do you know someone who wants a lovely dog?

Pogle


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 17:36

Thank you Hans for getting things back on track.

daisy dukes


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 19:40

No more suggestions????????? So do you just actually just want to be rid of your dogs, please be honest. Because as you have made up with the chicken man, and have been given suitable suggestions, it seems that there could be ways for you to keep your pets....



DD

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 19:43

Oh my god, ladies and chickens...

adagirl


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 19:58

Sorry Dutch, what is that meant to mean?????????? Someone wants to rehome their dogs because they cannot control them, they have been sent sensible, cost effective methods to keep them, I dont see what the problem is??? Sincere apologies to all the offended neighbours, keep the dogs from getting loose and running around barking at neighbours and killing chickens and isnt the problem solved without re-homing? All it takes is a little effort? I have to ask, as DD did - do they just want to get rid of their dogs?

adagirl


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 20:12

Would also say that "baby" the pedigree dog has been re-homed within a day! Stray dogs of no particular breed and that have a tendency for escape and trouble are going to be a lot harder to re-home. So I ask again, why not apologise to your neighbours and keep the dogs within your garden? It is possible if you really want to.

rdsteve


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 20:16

Hans

Can i just say how much respect i have for what you Lilli and Keith do for abandoned pets on here i think it is fantastic. You will always get the idiots who don't engage brain before opening Mouth.

Please take no notice and please keep up the good work for all the abandon animals out there and for Trudy who must be at her wits end what is going to happen to Scubi.

And no i have not met any of these 3 people but i feel they all deserve any praise they get for trying to rehome these animals Keep up the fantastic work.



Steve

adagirl


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Message Posted:
18/11/2009 23:08

Steve, who are these idiots you refer to? Those people that are trying to keep the dogs with the owners by any chance? If I were in a similar situation I would exhaust EVERY avenue and welcome EVERY suggestion before getting rid of my dog. All I have done is suggest affordable, sensible options to an almost impossible rehoming situation. What is wrong with confining these dogs within the garden? I dont understand ? Who has a garden big enough for three dogs to run loose - that will by admission try to escape and run at people barking and kill chickens??? I live next to a farm and my neighbours would be horrified and so would I, if my dog got out and barked at them and killed their livestock!!

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 00:07

RE msg 34: Daisy D, before you go on giving advise and suggestions. May I ask what happened with your idea to "foster dogs and cats"? A month here and a month there, wasn't that the basic set-up? Would have been a solution in this case - if only to calm everybody down.

The somewhat fanatical texts in this thread are disappointing and worrying.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 00:26

Dc i was there for the kaunch, Good ideas but I have carried it forward. ThANK YOU so much for photos but I need Dylans photo PLEASE x

rdsteve


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 05:10

Adagirl

Msg 13 i was refering to everyone else is trying to help.

Steve

negativenick


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 06:14

another thread invloving "Dutch" ending up as a slanging match...

Hippo


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 06:22

Pheraps the Sad Crusader should ask himself the question why?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 09:18

RE msg 43 & 44, NN & Hoppi: Welcome to this thread! How many dogs do you want to rehome, you say..? Great help, gentlemen!

daisy dukes


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 10:21

In reference to the 'Fostering System' I am still waiting on getting the website up and running...i don't know how to do it, but, i do have someone working on it. I don't see the point in starting something half cocked,, might as well do it properly, but sometimes due to circumstance, these things take time, which i did say before. Hope that clears it up for you Hans.





DD

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 18:31

mess 17 dutch i appologise for gettin it wrong but the first line of the thread does suggest the dogs are yours quote our beloved family pets and you are rude like it or not.....

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 18:39

Dc ignore both of them.



Hippo I will be cross with you again



NN leave DC alone or you will be in trouble with me!

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 19:07

RE msg 47, racoonchic: (...) but the first line of the thread does suggest the dogs are yours (...)

=> You still haven't got the picture. This is the (my) first line in the first message of this thread: (Text and pics uploaded on request - Hans Doeleman) Why you don't understand this is beyond me.

Than I wrote a text emailed to me by a board member and to make sure that everybody would understand it - I put the text between quotation marks. Why would I put my own text between quotation marks?!

Well, I know my antagonists on this and other boards and I'm flattered by their attention. However, my advise is to "to play the ball and not the man" as we say in Holland. Have a nice evening.

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 10:29

simbas that was nice of you to judge me well done as far as ridiculing people goes check your mates posts

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 18:23

Well!!!Like I said on the original thread.......Do not beleive everything that you hear???sorry,no smiley this time!

daisy dukes


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 18:30

hey yorgy!! Long time no hear!! are you back yet?? You've been missed!!





DD

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 18:42

msg 52:

DD;

Yes,I am back to put the world to wright.So watych out all!!

Tinkie


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 18:43

Yorgozlu, sorry but what are you getting at?

yorgozlu



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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 18:44

msg 53;

"typo" then again..........s**t happens

adagirl


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 19:23

Inteesting "banter" WHAT ABOUT THE DOGS?????????????

daisy dukes


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 19:47

I think we can safely say that (perhaps) due to some of your super solutions, the dogs are no longer in 'deadly danger'...i stand to be corrected...



DD

adagirl


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 22:43

I agree DD what is going on with the obviously unwanted dogs? I am worried about them???????????? Are they stll running amock? Are they contained? Are they poisoned? An update from such a post deserves an UPDATE? cOME ON CRUSADER I am very worried about these unwanted dogs....

adagirl


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 23:07

so? WHERE ARE THE DOGS? are they safe?

adagirl


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 23:30

I have always had a lot of respect for you DC but now I think you are a bit of a drama queen?????? Dogs threatened with murder? Come on a bit OTT?????????????? Cos nohing on an update yet?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 23:46

RE several msgs from adagirl: (...) I have always had a lot of respect for you DC but now I think you are a bit of a drama queen?????? Dogs threatened with murder? Come on a bit OTT?????????????? Cos nohing on an update yet? (...)

=> Dear adagirl. If you don't mind: I did a reading for mainly British expats on "medieval Kyrenia town" tonight, which kept me rather busy. Furthermore: on my way back I stopped at Guido's for a drink and was persuaded by Liz to make some pics about another dog needing to be rehomed. Watch this space tomorrow, I'm a bit tired now. AND PLEASE READ CAREFULLY NOW, ADAGIRL: THE DOGS IN THIS THREAD ARE NOT MY DOGS. REPEAT: *NOT* (**NOT**) MY DOGS. I tried to help someone with a problem. I have no obligation to keep you updated, do I? Why don't contact Mel mentioned in the first message: "Please contact Mel if you can help: 0533 855 5659 or mail: melaniepartington@hotmail.com (Pogle)." I really don't like the way you talk to me.

adagirl


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Message Posted:
21/11/2009 00:13

Oh DC I think that several people tried to help. BUT............. They seem to just want rid. cants Liz at Guiodos take them on? She is so lovely and caring and if the dogs are really in danger................

Pogle


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Message Posted:
21/11/2009 01:09

Adagirl/ DD Snowball is dead. That good enough for you?

boglefan



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Message Posted:
21/11/2009 02:36

Pogle, I am so so sorry. I am in Scotland but had hoped that a solution would have been found. Snowball was a beautiful dog. This should not have happened. Thinking of you.

To all the idiots (sorry if you were just trying to put this back to the top you are not included if that was the intention of your post). Pogle had a real problem and needed help he did not need the negative posts here and DC was doing his best to help and did not deserve the nasty personal insults put on this thread.

It has been put on many other threads 'IF YOU HAVE NOTHING POSITIVE TO SAY, JUST GO AWAY'!!!!!!!

Tinkie


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Message Posted:
21/11/2009 07:58

I think that it would be a very good idea if this thread was now closed. DD and Adagirl you 2 should be ashamed of yourselves, if you had ever read any of Pogles other posts you would have realised that she is an animal lover pure and simple. This post was about trying to rehome her dogs who were under a very real threat of being killed by the neighbours. Now that Snowball is dead perhaps its either of you 2 who might want to 'eat a huge piece of humble pie'... I thinks thats how you worded it isnt it DD?



Please would one of the admin close this thread asap.

simbas



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Message Posted:
21/11/2009 08:00

This thread is now closed.



Reason: Not specified. But in order to prevent the the author of this topic experiencing further heartache