No luck for the Irish

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 00:37

For a while there I thought IRL had a chance to be at the party next year.. they were winning 1-0 in France..



but it wasn't to be.. in extra time the French broke Irish Hearts..





OK, I thought at least I could cheer Russia - with Gus in charge.. Ooops.. they threw away a 2-0 lead at home - Slovenia scored a vital away goal, there, and LOST 1-0 in Slovenia tonight..



Just to make you all 'happy' Ukraine - having drew in Athens and gained the upper hand, LOST 0-1 .. so GREECE qualified.. :o

Lilli



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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 00:42

Hiya Mark will we worry after all we came second. You know what we are like. There will always be a next time. Anyway sad xxxxxxxxx Vita OK

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 00:45

Hi Lilli.. Veta's getting better everyday.. thx for asking



She HATES football and couldn't care if Russia went out ! )



I was watch Russian TV and she was watching UK TV tonight :o

eager


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 01:25

How can any team feel that they deserve to win if they have to resort to blatent cheating....time for the 3rd eye to be used as in other sports. T. Henry.....can you live with it ?

henrik



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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 02:25

the french goal was a "gods-hand" goal.. I cant believe that the refs did not see the double handplay of Thiery Henry.. I thought he was a fair player till today, but you always learn better.. sorry for the irish.. hope france gets kicked out without scoring one goal..

taraspring


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 02:28

Glad to see you are back posting Mark, and regards to Veta - get better very very soon. x

smithy


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 07:03

Hi Mark

Good to see you back on board, hope all is well

Sheila

japeal



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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 07:08

Yet another reason to hate the froggies, let's boycott carrefor, and send in the taliban to cause havoc on a cheating nation

sylvie


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 09:58

japeal,



we used to say english were fair play it seems that's it not true anymore - i don't care at all about football but the comment is wrong -

sylvie


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 10:00

don't worry france was very lucky to win - they won't go far with such a trainer!!!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 10:25

re 5 Hi Hendrik !



To be fair to Henry .. I told the official - ' it was hand ball' and he was told you are not the referee ...



France probably should have had a penalty, earlier when Anelka was probably fouled by Give, the Irish Goalkeeper...



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/8367418.stm

Naas26


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 14:29

Henry cheated by handling the ball TWICE not to mention it should have been off side for the first ball put in. Nothing will happen of course as FIFA want as many big countries in the finals for increased revenue. They changed the play-offs from an open draw to a seeded draw so all the big teams would not be drawn against each other and now because of Platini nothing will be done about the blatant cheating.



With regards to Anelka another cheater because replay's clearly show no contact was made and the he clearly dived.



A down but not beaten Irishman

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 16:14

Simply not good enough, but a grea teffort from a small nation.



Should have qualified in the group stage.

ilovecyprus


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 16:48

Unlucky you Irish, better luck next time.



What a shame that Henry has tarnished his clean reputation. He is arguably the greatest foriegn player to grace the British shores but last night he let himself down. Most players woud never dream of handling the ball in that situation. It would not be on their radar. I am reminded of last season when the Russian Arshavin got bought down in the penalty area playing for Arseanl against Portsmouth.. The ref gave a penalty but Arshavin argued to say he was not fouled. Thats sportmanship. Arshavin sent out the right message to youngsters and other players.

Fifa should ban Henry for a substantial number of games but as Nass26 has said they wont.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 16:50

Henry should be ostracized.

ilovecyprus


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 16:50

ps I still haven't forgiven the Irish for previously nicking our best players - Paul Mcgrath and Andy Townsend .

A still disgruntled Englishman

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 16:50

..shame we won't be seeing Arshavin on the world stage, either :(

HAPPY FEET


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 16:51

Mark I thought you were Milwall







The Ref was a disgrace no more drinking french beer and wine for me (second thoughts) !

ilovecyprus


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 16:52

too right MM, he really is a great player. Can't understand nobody competing with Arsenal for his signature.

Mind you Arshavin would not have come to the UK if he knew what his tax bill was going to be. Turns out he probably would have made more money in Russia

ilovecyprus


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 16:53

msge 18



I cant cope with all the heartache Wayne

japeal



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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 17:09

After all the changes Platini has been vying for by Fifa for fair play, honesty of players to stop diving etc, how does he honestly feel about his home country openly cheating and now benefiting from their disgusting performance.



I know it was Henry not all of the team, but as a selected representative of his country, in effect an embassador for his country in their sport, the French FA should openly apologise for what went on.



Blame it on the Ref? Yes, but it was the player that CHEATED.



Never want him back in the Premier League just got rid of the Diver Ronaldo, do not now need a 'Volleyball' player in our game.

HAPPY FEET


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 17:10

You working in Staines mate ?

nareik


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 17:10

I am absolutely disgusted with the result but the Irish team can hold their heads high because they totally outplayed a hugely talented (on paper) French team. Even though I am so disappointed about not going to South Africa, I don't blame Henri. The whole game of football is rife with cheating, from diving, feigning injury, claiming corners or throw ins to try and fool the officials. If it was Ireland that had scored a "cheated" goal I'm fairly sure that we would have taken it - and not offered to replay the game. FIFA should now look at how Rugby deals with these issues and follow suit. Already there are cameras at all these matches; it's a very short step for a 4th official to view contentious situations and adjudicate with a degree of certainty. And they could also take on board Rugby's respect for the referee which would stop very quickly the practice of groups of players intimidating referees.

I wish France good fortune in South Africa.

HAPPY FEET


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 17:11

Robbie Keane has never dived in a game has he ?

ROBnJO


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 17:16

Ireland have now officially requested a rematch!



Be interesting if they get it.



Rob

ilovecyprus


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 17:24

msge 23



Talking of Rugby did anyone see the bloke last night who won 250,000 for kicking a drop kick on to the crossbar. Whats the chances of that happening. Lucky boy.



msge 25



thats interesting, puts Fifa in a bind, especially Platinini. I bet his cursing his luck.



msge 22



No mate, meant to be in Manchester today with your b2b guys but they blew out

ilovecyprus


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 17:25

ps



he did so, kicked the kick with just his socks on

ROBnJO


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 17:35

ILC



Rumour is that Saracens didn't bother paying the £10k insurance premium!



They thought the odds were 1000/1.





OOPS!



Rob

HAPPY FEET


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 17:45

It wasn't a proper rugby drop kick , but the boy did good !!

BillBarnacle


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 19:15

Watching sky news even the Irish Premier is now whining about the result and stamping his little feet demanding a re match.



Perhaps we can have a re match on the Lisbon Treaty following the Irish referendum.

nareik


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 19:33

Billbarnacle,



Whatever about the Irish feeling hard done by today after the ref's bad decision. I sincerely hope that we don't whinge and moan about it 23 years later as the English do about Maradona's Hand of God!

BillBarnacle


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 19:56

nareik



That is clearly a very different issue.We had a valid complaint as Maradona's handball was deliberate unlike Henry's which was merely an accident.

ROBnJO


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 20:11

BillBarnacle



Henri clearly handballed TWICE within seconds during the goal and has admitted so.



Accident????

BillBarnacle


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 20:17

ROBnJO



Henri can hardly be held responsible if the ball accidently bounced onto his hand twice.



................ and he has said sorry

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 20:33

re 19 .. he must have lousy tax advisers ?!

sylvie


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Message Posted:
19/11/2009 21:04

i just heard on tv that thierry henry's fault hasn't been seen by the referee , he is the responsable , it happen in many other sport before we have the slowing replay - it is becoming a state affair - now they have a doubt about the integrity of that referee !!!



all that make me laugh because there are so much terrible events in the world we should worry about !!!

HAPPY FEET


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 15:23

Lets be honest, if this had happened to England the Iriish would be P***** themselves with laughter!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 15:46

Dear Happy Feet..



re msg 37



*I* wasn't when Maradonna did it to you guys... CHEATING is CHEATING and should be abhorred- not matter what the nationality involved

ROBnJO


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 16:09

No rematch then!



So FIFA are saying cheating in sport is OK as long as the ref doesn't see it, even when the player has admitted cheating.



Hmmmmm.



At least in Cricket there is the '3rd' Umpire, who can look at video evidence at the time of the questioned incident and give an immediate decision. Same with Rugby and other sports.



Football doesn't suffer from a 'lack' of video evidence available immediately.



Perhaps they should stop all the Drug tests as well and let cheating prevail, but only in football.





p.s. I see Henri has just stated he would prefer a rematch. If their isn't one, he will always be remembered as 'Le Main De France'. I don't think he will enjoy that.

HAPPY FEET


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 16:20

mmmmmm



Think you should read this >Roy Keane has lambasted the Republic of Ireland's attempts to get their controversial World Cup play-off match against France replayed.



The Republic appealed to Fifa after their 2-1 aggregate defeat by France on the basis that the winning goal came after a blatant Thierry Henry handball.



But Ipswich boss Keane said: "They can complain all they want but France are going to the World Cup - get over it.



"France were there for the taking and Ireland didn't do it. Same old story." The Irishman, who made 65 appearances for the Republic as a player, continued: "If I'd been there in the dressing room after the game, I wouldn't be talking about the handball. I'd focus on why the defenders didn't clear it. They should've cleared it.



"I'd be more annoyed with my defenders and my goalkeeper than Thierry Henry. How can you let the ball bounce in your six-yard box? How can you let Thierry Henry get goal-side of you? If the ball goes into the six-yard

HAPPY FEET


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 16:21

box, where the hell is my goalkeeper?



"These are skills and lessons you learn as a schoolboy. "Ireland had their chances in the two games and they never took them. They had chances at Croke Park (in the first leg) and they had chances on Wednesday. "They didn't take them, but it's the usual FAI (Football Association of Ireland) reaction - 'we've been robbed, the honesty of the game...' It's rubbish."



And Keane pointed out that controversial decisions went Ireland's way in the qualifying campaign, not least a harsh penalty award against Georgia which helped them to clinch a 2-1 qualifying win in February.



"There was one match against Georgia where Ireland got a penalty and it was one of the worst decisions I've ever seen which changed the whole course of the game.

"I don't remember the FAI after the game saying we should give them a replay."

ilovecyprus


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 16:27

msge 39 robnjo



"I don't think he will enjoy that".



I think he might be just realising that this could seriously impact his sponsorship deals and life after football.

Jimmyboy63


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 17:37

You can not blame Tierry Henry for the ref not seeing the blatent hand ball



If it had been Robbie Keane at the other end who hand balled and Ireland scored do you think he would have ran to the ref and said i hand balled ref please do not let the goal stand........no chance!!!!



Unlucky for Ireland the ref did not see the hand ball so did not give the free kick and the goal stood



This happens regularly in football but this was highlighted because the stakes were so high.



As for Ireland asking for a rematch.....impossible!!!!



The only way forward is to use cameras as the do in Rugby

HAPPY FEET


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 17:45

Maybe Thierry Henry was getting his own back for Ireland giving us the Jedwards !!!!

HAPPY FEET


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 17:48

Wasn't long before this came out.



http://www.jeu-de-main.com/



use the mouse to score..

Naas26


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 19:22

Roy Keane is only trying to deflect from his poor management at Ipswich. The previous manager was sacked because they did not make the play offs and now they are struggling to get out of the relegation zone !!!!! who should be asking the questions. If you heard the interview he started to attack a journalist who's mobile phone went off in the middle of the press conference

Roy has a serious chip on his shoulder and it's getting bigger by the years. Whether we get a replay (which I doubt) the way Roy has gone on he has made even more enemies in Ireland he doesn't have many friends left as it is.

IMO Henry acted by instinct when he handled the ball but he should have owned up when it happened and not two days later. He was always a player I respected and feared (being a Liverpool supporter) his career will now be tarnished by this. What he needs to do is lead a vocal campaign for a re match which France would prob win as this will have united their team which they weren't.



Naas26

Naas26


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 19:26

Sorry for the rant

sylvie


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 20:08

as we say in france " jeu de main, jeu de vilain "

newlad



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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 20:20

As we say in England jammy b*******

Happy Hussar


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 20:31

As we say in Ireland cheating cnut.

AlexF065


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Message Posted:
20/11/2009 22:50

The Cheat Henry aside

How many chances to kill the game in normal time did Ireland have ???

If you include the match at croak park then it was at least 6 guilt edged chaces

Keane the spuds forward is NOT world class he is slow in comparrison to most international strikers, Duff is as his name suggests old crocked and duff.

I doubt the french will go very far they are an ageing team with a usless coach, But even if the match had gone to penalties i dont think Ireland would have won the French keeper was playing out of his skin

but it would have been a much better and fairer way to loose

cyprusairsoft



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Message Posted:
21/11/2009 14:48

nas roy will bring ipswich town round he is a good manager



i feel sorry for the irish as the brilliant henry has always been an excellent footballer and ambassador for france



its up to the supporters of all countries now to lambast him heckle and boo him and he might get the message even if the result cant be changed