Lord Maginnis of DRUMGLASS: speech in the Lords

malsancak


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Message Posted:
27/11/2009 20:05

"This speech was given last week and deserves to be spread around for people to read. The Lord is a passionate supporter of the Turkish Cypriot cause and deserves deep respect by anyone who has an interest in Northern Cyprus..."

Read the rest of Fevzi Hussein's article on http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com

littlejohn


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 02:20

Maginnis, like Taylor and Paisley preached sectarianism and kept the N Ireland "situation" going for years. I doubt very much the sincerity of his speech !!

Ossie


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 06:43

So 'littlejohn' do you not agree with Lord Maginnis's speech,did he not tell the truth? At last somebody has stood up within the portals of "free speech" and stated the facts. If you can honestly believe that after all that has gone on within Cyprus,what has been done to the Turkish Cypriots over the years is not true then Lord Maginnis's speech was not sincere.

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 07:42

Littlejohn is more used to justice dished out Sherwood Forest style, if you don't like it put an arrow through it, then take everything that is not his on the basis that the speared defenceless had too much in the first instance!



Richard

malsancak


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 09:17

"I doubt very much the sincerity of his speech"

There are very few prominent people keeping the plight of north Cyprus in the EU media; whether he is sincere or not has nothing to do with it, whether he is truthful is more important.

millzer


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 09:24

Message 5. ABSOLUTELY.

frontalman



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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 09:55

He's always sincere, even if he doesn't mean it!

malsancak


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 10:05

"He's always sincere, even if he doesn't mean it! "

yes, he's a veteran politician

Troodo


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 11:04

Is J.D. Bowers, the international authority and respected American professor of genocide studies at Northern Illinois University, correct when he openly confirms that Greek Cypriots and EOKA-B, under the leadership of Nikos Sampson, were guilty of the genocide of Turkish Cypriots within the 1963 United Nations definition of “genocide”? Did the Akritas and Ifestos 1974 plans not spell out the means and methodology for that genocide? Was Turkey justified in its intervention in 1974 that brought an end to the killings, when we had turned our backs on our treaty obligation?



Is this the same person that they refered to in the Observer last week, or was that another well respected independant obsever?



Troodo

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 11:47

1/ Sampson - thank GOD, wasn't 'leader' for long - and he DID NOT have the support of GCs in general - he deposed a elected leader and tried to kill him.

MANY more GCs died fighting each other than TCs murdered by EOKA-B thugs..



2/ Most TCs murdered were killed AFTER Turkey had invaded and were killing GCs in the 'peace movement' - that's not an excuse- but pointing out a REACTION ..



3/ The 'Peace Movement' was planned a long time before - it was NOT a reaction to the coup - it was the excuse needed.. and engineered 'outside of Cyprus..





Ken Maginnis is twisting historical fact. I'm ashamed of him.



YES.. the TCs shouldn't be 'isolated' any more - they did want to send the troops home and TRY to be part of a new state in the EU.



But:



GCs voted no - probably most of 'em because they were misled by their ex-President who promised a better deal - based on 'EU norms of Human Rights' ..



Let's face it. Will GCs ever get a better 'deal' than Annan, now ?

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 11:55

I think they should have grabbed the AP with both hands.

Troodo


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 11:55

So the Akritas plan was written in Sampson's time was it mm? You must live on another planet. As for the mass of GC's they just looked the other way. How sure are you that given a chance they would not do the same again?



I am sorry for the shame they must feel, but denial is not the answer.



Troodo.

malsancak


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 11:57

"Ken Maginnis is twisting historical fact"

Aaah, the old "read this book/website for the true historical fact" ploy. So who told you the correct historical facts M6? I actually want to know because Lord Ken stood up in the Lords and made his statement and followed it up by saying, "the Minister may not like it, but she will know that every word I have uttered is true. Otherwise, let her say so now."

Ballyboffin


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 11:59

Message 2 littlejohn.



How ignorant are you of the 'Politics' of Northern Ireland ? Ken Maginnis, John Taylor and Ian Paisley did not preach sectarianism. Their mission was to uphold the rights of Loyalists in Northern Ireland since the British government were giving more and more to the Nationalists and still are to this day, But for them and others like them Ireland would now be united against the wishes of the majority.



Bearing in mind that Lord Maginnis and Lord Kilclooney both own property in North Cyprus and have invested interest like all of us, we should all be grateful for the input that such high standing polititians are putting into the cause of the TRNC.

Troodo


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 12:52

Unfortunatly, most GC's are iliterate on their own history before 74. Historical fact does not fit the agenda, so they are not taught in their schools. It is becoming that way in the UK.



Troodo.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 13:52

Hey BallyB! re msg 14



perhaps YOU can answer my question :



Neither 'honourable' gentlemen seem to want to answer this...



Are 'their' properties / land actually THEIRS? .. You see I don't think it's correct for non-Cyps to 'lecture' on *right*/ truth if they can't / won't even answer a straight question.



BTW, I think *I* can safely speak about N.I Politics - if 'our Ken' is British and HMG does not recognise the 'TRNC', then when is he going to respect 'our' policy .. ?



>>But for them and others like them Ireland would now be united against the wishes of the majority. <<



He was a strong supporter of the Good Friday Agreement - which meant that IF / WHEN(?) The nationalist community vote to make N.I part of Eire - would you respect that ?!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 13:59

re 12/15 Troodo



>>Unfortunatly, most GC's are iliterate on their own history before 74. Historical fact does not fit the agenda, so they are not taught in their schools. It is becoming that way in the UK. <<



I accept point 1, what evidence do you have for point 2



>>So the Akritas plan was written in Sampson's time was it mm? You must live on another planet. As for the mass of GC's they just looked the other way. How sure are you that given a chance they would not do the same again? <<



The 'other' A-Plan is a product of the sixties and if you check you'll find Sampson's brief flirtation with 'power' came 11/12 years later ..



How do you explain the FACT that so many GCs were killed while 'looking the other way' ?

malsancak


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 14:19

msg 16, "Are 'their' properties / land actually THEIRS? .. You see I don't think it's correct for non-Cyps to 'lecture' on *right*/ truth if they can't / won't even answer a straight question."

I am in possession of my property and have exchanged cash for title deeds. I've answered your "straight" question so can I lecture you now M6, or are you going to lecture me on the philosophy of ownership?

Troodo


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 14:40

It has been observed repeatedly that when it comes to 63-74 GC teachers skip this part, or at best skim over it, and start at 74.



As for the rest MM, I think you are being deliberatly obtuce.



Troodo.

Ballyboffin


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 14:40

Message 16



Hey yourself MM ya-boy-ye, bout ye ?



Perhaps the honourable gentlemen have their own reasons for not answering the question. I know that Ken owns property in Ozankoy which was mostly TC pre-74. I would imagine that he would have been astute enough to purchase only that 'Safe' title and I'm sure that he would certainly have recieved PTP and deeds on the property since he bought it before the TRNC government 'changed the goalposts'.



John I know, owns several properties so there could be a question mark over some of them, though they are in the Harbour and Turkish Quarter areas. He also has had them for a long time.



If you want my theory on why they will not answer, maybe they don't want to come accross as 'I'm alright Jack' merchants if they do have deeds on Pre-74 land, or even more likely don't want petitions from the poor sods who don't and are unlikely in the present TRNC government to get them.

malsancak


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 14:47

There is a very old joke about a rambler crossing a grouse moor when the owner comes up to him and tells him to get orf his land.



"Your land? Where did you get it from?"

"From my father the Seventeenth Duke, and he got it from his father, the Sixteenth Duke."

"And what about right back at the beginning, how did the first Duke get it?"

"He fought for it."

"Seems fair enough to me, how about if I fight you for it now?"

Ballyboffin


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 14:49

continued from message 20.



We were lucky enough to recieve our Pre-74 deeds more that 3 years ago along with another British neighbour but after that they seem to have 'shut the gate' and 3 other British neighbours have been refused PTP. Our Turkish and Cypriot neighbours had their deeds within 6 months of buying the property.



Your last question. would I respect a United Ireland ? I think that there is a much chance of that as a United Cyprus.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 15:51

Bally how ar ye. John Taylors properties are 3 in Ozenkoy and one in the harbour. All older turkish houses.See you soon xx

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 16:49

Hmm



it seems our John has only declared interest in *one* property

http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/members/expenses/register.htm#k



I expect he has companies that 'own' the others ! ;)



re 22 BallyB



Did you you know - that at present demographic rates - by 2070 - us 'Loyalist's will have been out-bred in NI ?;)



May be ' our 'John and Ken knew something we didn't !



re 19 Troodo



'Obtuce?'.. no *I* answered *your* Qs .. !

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 17:02

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Sounds like the after blast echo from my fired bazooka!



Richard

Ballyboffin


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 19:07

Message 23.



How are you Liz ?

I didn't want to say where Lord Kilclooney's other properties were hence I said Turkish Quarter. Living in Co.Down with Lord Dunleath as our closest neighbour as well, I didn't want anyone to think I was a social climber or snob if I'd mentioned Ozankoy hmmmmm !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





AS IF ! Ha ha.



Mark. I think that John's other houses are in his children's names.



BTW. It was said many years ago that we were going to be out-numbered by our Nationalist neighbours. I'll get in trouble if I say anymore on that subject.



Seriously though, only the hard line Nationalist would vote to join the R.O I. I think most are quite happy to have the benefits that the British government so kindly give them. Bear in mind too that this side they can still call for their 'Human Rights' and call it sectarianism when things don't go the way they want.



xxxx

paddywack


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 19:32

Msg 2

If you had lived in N Ireland during the bad times, you would not talk such c**p.

Checkmate


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 20:25

How true Ballyboffin message 26. They know where there bread is buttered.....unfortunatley!!!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 21:04

Dear BallyB



re msg 26



I don't know if you noticed, but I wouldn't call SF the moderate party, and it is now the biggest party - by % votes rec'd in N.I.



Sorry, I've had the 'snip' - can't help ....



BTW.. I'm looking forward to the fist person who asks if Veta is a Prod or a Catholic ... How WOULD one describe Russian Orthodox ;D ?

paddywack


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 21:22

Middle of the road

Ballyboffin


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 21:46

Yo Mark,



I wouldn't call Sein Fein moderate either, I could think of a few other names to give them.



How about their leaders ? Now instead of 'Tiocfaidh Ar La' It is now 'Tiocfaidh Armani' and don't they look good on the salaries and expenses provided by the British taxpayers and a Crown they won't recognise.



BTW ........ I'm not gonna ask if Veta is a Prod or a Mick. I don't care. You of all people know that it was never ever about religion.



xxx

paddywack


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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 22:05

Probably the biggest turf war ever.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
28/11/2009 22:49

Bally and six ms just watched the Michael Collins movie opened my eyes. Paddy you are right. I beleive the UK keep them the north for the votes now. Alll of my life I wanted to see a united Ireland but now realise it could never be.Im still proud to be irish but realistic to see both points. The EU has kept the south we have llost ouirt souls and sold ouit. UK has the North. However at the end of the day we are all still OIRISH. Bally waiting for my ulster fry xxxx

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
29/11/2009 15:36

Dear Lilli



if you think the British govt WANT to keep N.I. - when 'we' cost the UK tax payer TWICE as much as an Englishman !!! ...

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
29/11/2009 17:06

Ballybigot more like.



Ian Parsley said "NEVER".......then he realised that he had to sit down and talk to the real owners of Ireland..the Irish and not the scottish that were introduced to the Island after partition.



2070....The Irish would have been the majority years ago only for they had to leave THERE OWN land to be able to make a living. Your lords and ballyboffin likes are hopefully soon to be a thing of the past.



Hopefully ther next time you go on a marching season with your "Orange Del Monte" sashes hanging around your scrags....why not do it for charity and make some money for the less better off.



Sorry all...I went off Topic. Lord McGinnis speaks with forked tongue as msg 2 has indicated.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
29/11/2009 17:17

Hiya Mark hope Vita is well now. I agree NI cost a lot but it does keep them in power. I suppose thats the same as all the ethnic groups since they can claim and get homes alll over Uk xxx

Ballyboffin


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Message Posted:
29/11/2009 18:04

MESSAGE 35



Tiggy,



What right do you have to call me a bigot ?



Please do tell me YOUR experiences of 'life' in Northern Ireland during the 'Troubles'



How many friends have you lost in IRA bombs ? And how many times have you personally been caught up in one?



I and many others on here would like to know before you post your vitriolic comments.

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
29/11/2009 20:31

Read your one sided blue nosed comments on nearly all of your above messages. what the british allowed the other side in the North to have etc !! It,s a good job your kind of breed are dying out.



Walking around London in the 70's was no joke not knowning if the next car you walked past was going to blow up in your face. I have family in the North so please do not go down that road. My grandfathers land was taken in the early 1900's and has never been returned.....some Lord/Earl may be living on it now with a bent Kockan/title deed!



I do not believe in the gun or the bomb. So please do not try and to put the IRA crap on me. The UVF,UDA, UFF were all saint s were they? that targeted mainly innocent civilians to slaughter. Paisley and his cronies were all linked to terrorists.



I bet you are a member of the orange lodge..... Marching in bowler hats and your umbrellas...what a joke!



Speak for your self and not for the alleged many others.



Roll on 2070,



slainte.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
29/11/2009 22:57

Dear Patrick



Suggest you go and lie down in a dark room.. I believe you might be waking up in a Proddie country ( mainland UK ) .. however do you manage ;D ?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Nationalist



..and I thought the days of narrow-mindedness was past !!



Chill, Dude..

Troodo


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Message Posted:
30/11/2009 00:17

Oh my god not the Irish thing again.

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
30/11/2009 00:20

Sorry Mmmmmm's



It goes to show that when two parts of the same Island divide over religion, it is hard to back down.



Like Cyprus it will never go away. And like the ROC, they will never admit to their past wrong doings.



Nuff said me thinks.



One day soon a RC may be king/Queen of this mainland!

Checkmate


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Message Posted:
30/11/2009 00:51

And i hope all those "Good Irish Priests" get well and truly what they deserve, lock them up on a wing, in jail, full of "beasts"!!!!

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
30/11/2009 01:02

checkmate.........don't you mean "Bad Irish priests/ vicars and padres"

Ballyboffin


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Message Posted:
30/11/2009 12:12

Precisely Mark,



Another preaching from an Irish pulpit but living in Britain. Living in London in the 70's ? I am sure that was just as scary as being in Belfast...... hmmm. Rats and sinking ships comes to mind, yet the likes of Tiggy still think that they have the right to spout their political beliefs.



As he quotes 'I do not believe in the gun or the bomb' Not many do but were not given a choice in the bad old days, how many died innocent victims of both for a cause that many still believe in. Even in these days of "PEACE " there are dissidents still murdering innocent soldiers and policemen.



BTW Tiggy, I am not a member of the Orange Lodge, not just because I am female. Even if I was male and wanted to, I wouldn't be allowed to because my mother was Roman Catholic.



As Mark says, lie down in a dark room and I'd suggest an ice-pack on your head.



Chill man.

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
30/11/2009 12:56

Sorry Marm,



I did not have the choice to be born in Ireland im afraid. As I said I have family in the North. I have been there,stayed there and seen it all first hand. My cousin joined the Army and was sent to Belfast in the Gas works/markets area and he told us some nice stories on how things were. You are also Irish living in Britain!!



I do not practise the religion I was christened into and do not hate any other religions. I only dislike people who spout their bigotry against people who were and is some cases still classed as 2nd in thier own country.



Lets end all this crap now as it will just go around in circles.



I will take your advise about the dark room........if you consider HRT



"NEVER" !!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
30/11/2009 18:09

Dear Tiggy re 45



1/ NO.. BallyB is British - if she chooses to be - and THAT is one VERY vital thing AGREEMENT casts in stone...



It was my advice about the dark room, and AFAIK HRT won't help me !



2/ I still think you need to 'chill' - as you sound like a GC who was born in London and confuses 'fiction' and fact..



As it has been said - religion -wasn't what ppl died for.. and Protestants were behind the initial call for home rule ;)



We all know about the 'acts' committed in the name of a 'cause' that weren't 'appropriate' - that's putting it mildly.. but you REALLY have got it wrong, here..



My ex-was a RC ( not a reason for the divorce ! ) - as is my best mate and I think you could agree you were a little 'naughty' with the 'bigot' label



It might be nice if you could appreciate that... and I apologise if some of my banter caused this ..

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
30/11/2009 19:26

Dear Mark,.... I was referring to Ballyboffin with the term "Marm" and not you. You jump in to quick at times.



I have in MY opinion got nothing wrong........I read the way this person was putting one side down and this is how we get entrenched in all this crap. According to one banned idiot on this forum I am a member of the BNP!



Let’s give this a rest eh.

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
30/11/2009 19:46

The Irish are just bad losers, north or south. They have asked FIFA for a special place to enter the World Cup soccer tournament because of the French game. They lost, deal with it!



Richard

Ballyboffin


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Message Posted:
30/11/2009 20:21

OMG



Tiggy Sir,

There is something I agree with you on. 'Give it a rest' And thanks the HRT works well you should give it a go.



By the way I was not putting one side down. I responded to littlejohn in message 2 where he said that Maginnis, Taylor and Paisley preached sectarianism, where in fact they supported the rights of the ( still) majority here.



My point is that like it or not the Nationalists have achieved all of the "10 Just Demands" they asked for back in the 70's and many more that were not so 'Just' and they got them by bomb and bullet.

I have never supported or agreed with any terrorist groups but you have to realise that the UVF, UDA UFF etc were only set up after the IRA started their terror campaign and I also condemn their dreadful actions during those terrible times.



BTW, I have a British Passport and an Irish Passport also I have a Singapore one as that was my birthplace.



Probably going to get more flak over that as well.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
30/11/2009 22:24

Dear BallyB



Aren't you 'going' for a 'TRNC' one , too ;)

paddywack


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Message Posted:
30/11/2009 22:48

Msg 48

Bad losers,those times were`nt a bit of a game,you should have ploughed a field with a .38 behind the sun visor or gone for a days fishing with a shotgun in the rodbag,if you did`nt see it ,don`t comment.

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
30/11/2009 22:54

Msg 51



No worries, I always carry my bazooka in dodgy Countries filled with dodgy people! Chip off the old block!



Richard

Ballyboffin


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 00:25

Hey mmmmmm,



You wee b-----,



Do you think I should ?



Might be a problem when I cross the BORDER though.......



Jeez boy, Keep up the fight and KEEP SMILIN'



Love to you and Veta xxxxxxxxxx

littlejohn


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 01:29

Born in co down in '48 !! 22 Years in forces!! Message 2 still stands - end of conversation !!!!

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 12:01

Mrs Cunningham,



I am sorry I called you a bigot, please accept my appology to you.



regards,



Patrick.

Ballyboffin


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 13:48

Thank you Patrick,



Apology accepted.



Maybe we can meet for a drink when we are in Cyprus to bury the hatchet ( Not literally !!!!!! )



There is one thing about the Irish, we fight with no-one else but our own.



Kind Regards



Patricia xxx

Ballyboffin


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 13:48

Thank you Patrick,



Apology accepted.



Maybe we can meet for a drink when we are in Cyprus to bury the hatchet ( Not literally !!!!!! )



There is one thing about the Irish, we fight with no-one else but our own.



Kind Regards



Patricia xxx

Ballyboffin


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 13:50

OOPS ! Posted that twice.

Tiggy


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 14:51

Thanks Patricia,



I think the dark room has been beneficial to me!!



A drink in the future would be a nice thing.



Patrick.

XX

dublinderm


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Message Posted:
02/12/2009 19:54

Does anyone else find it ironic that 'Lord' Drumglass leaps to the defence of the Turkish REPUBLIC of NC when he has spent his entire adult life trying to defend his community from the evils of the constitutional Republican system in Ireland?

Ballyboffin


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Message Posted:
07/12/2009 17:26

I didn't want to rake up this 'Old Chestnut' again, but dublinderm I don't understand what you are saying.



Ken Maginness does indeed defend TRNC and is fighting for it's recognition and rights for the TC's.



Wasn't he doing the same thing in N.I and for the Loyalist community ?



Peace xxx

paddywack


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Message Posted:
07/12/2009 17:29

Msg 61

Yes

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
07/12/2009 19:39

re 61



But in the case of N.Ireland it was a recognised part of the UK... BIG difference..

Ballyboffin


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Message Posted:
07/12/2009 22:04

Message 63.



Hey wee lad,



U tryin' to get my back up again ?



We all know that Northern Ireland IS a recognised part of BRITAIN/ UK ( Some of our population have NEVER condescended to admit that though )



( Your Granny AND mine never said that they were United Kingdom-ish )



Thing is, How many Provinces ARE RECOGNISED as IRELAND ???????



How long have we fought to keep ours British, SAME as the TC's are still fighting to have their own rights...



Direct flights, Export licenses ETC.... ETC....



xxx

MUSIN M


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Message Posted:
07/12/2009 22:51

6ms



why don,t you elaborate on your remark about countries being recognized ,if you are referring

to the kktc ,why, what is it that you have against the kktc .



get used to it .





musin



long live the kktc