Is Scotland breaking up from the United Kingdom

LondonCypriot


Joined: 15/12/2008
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
29/11/2009 23:07

Is Scotland really in the process of becoming an Independent state?

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
29/11/2009 23:13

Have you just woken up from a dream, or nightmare??

Whats the punch line then?????



Lol.....

LondonCypriot


Joined: 15/12/2008
Posts: 426

Message Posted:
29/11/2009 23:26

Was watching the BBC and there was an headline where Scots are preparing for an referendum. Just want some clarifications thats all.

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
Posts: 2037

Message Posted:
29/11/2009 23:45

Ignore anything the BBC has to say...

Who their bullshite inflated bonuses?

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
30/11/2009 00:12

~SNP have not, so far, got enough support as only about 25% support a referendum and 20% in

favour of full independence. So we look like staying in the Union (for better or worse)

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
30/11/2009 00:25

Global warming---- rising sea levels causing massive flooding throughout England will be Scotlands saviour



It is the duty of every Scottish person to do their utmost to encourage Global warming !

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
30/11/2009 07:30

message 6 ....i for one would welcome getting rid of you lot ,lol



dodgey money,porridge,the S.P.L and square sausage i can live without



kav

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
30/11/2009 07:33

London Cyp

Wake up and smell the coffee

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
30/11/2009 07:40

Every map I have looked at has a 'cut along the dotted line' already in place. Its just that no one has had the guts to get their scissors out.

newscoop


Joined: 23/12/2007
Posts: 2197

Message Posted:
30/11/2009 08:23

Lousy bankers and politicians, porridge, haggis, and whisky I agree.



Square (Lorne) sausage, tattie scones, mutton pies, steak pies, tunnocks caramel wafers, snowballs, baps, and square bread, (see Lorne) Irn bru.



Heavenly!

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
30/11/2009 09:18

Ah the truth out's....................

BillBarnacle


Joined: 20/04/2009
Posts: 167

Message Posted:
30/11/2009 09:37

Never mind giving the sweaties a referendum we in England should just send them on their way together with their dodgy banks that we in England would no longer have to prop up with our money.



Scotland population 5 million.....................Taxpayers 300,000



The fact that they think they could manage on their own is laughable.

stevie-d



Joined: 13/07/2007
Posts: 1420

Message Posted:
30/11/2009 10:59

I wish I had a big bag full of that dogey money. As for the oil it belongs to Scotland ( what`s left of it )

stevie-d

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
30/11/2009 11:56

Save ourselves a fortune, SNP, robert the bruce, william wallace, crap football teams. Independance bring it on see how long they last, they will either run out of money or oil

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
30/11/2009 12:27

Ha ha, typical garbage sprouted out..never looking at both sides of the story only believing what they want to believe... i despair.

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
30/11/2009 13:25

I like Jocks and when brits backs are up against it in far flung countries the welsh and the jocks will be there standing tall with the english



thats why brits are great and everyone knocks us cos they dont know how we do it



ps when it comes to the world cup come on england

Mr Vince


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 696

Message Posted:
30/11/2009 15:23

Just remember that the Union was all about England wanting to join with us, not the other way about. Your old queen Lizzie the Dyke could or would not produce an heir or spare so your lot asked our King James VI to take on your scabby crown. Result King James I of UK



Kavenkoy. Square sausage is the food of the GODS

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
30/11/2009 15:34

mr vince,

Yeh look what happened she gave birth to Gordon Brown!!!! and look what that idiot scotsman has done..........

cyprusgiant


Joined: 08/07/2009
Posts: 467

Message Posted:
30/11/2009 16:36

Most of the productive oil & gas in the North Sea opposite Scotland are actually in the Norwegian Sector so it doesn't belong to Scotland or the UK as it's leased off the Norwegians by private companies (i.e BP Amoco, Philips etc) and the only input onshore is refinary & despatch. It's myth that's put around that the Scots would be rich with oil! The only oil that they are rich in is with deep fried mars bars....

jacko99


Joined: 26/06/2009
Posts: 52

Message Posted:
01/12/2009 01:38

i am no scot but surely there is more than 300,000 taxpayers in scotland everyone pays some sought of tax wheather indirect or no,it is not vat alcahol fuel tabbaco car you name it, probably kids pay some sought of tax it on vid games.pensioners even over and above there state pension if they have a supplemtry one , and the oil and gas has bought a lot of royalties in last 35 years, and some say there is still a trillion quids worth there ,but they would not have been able to support rbs, hbos, dumfermaline bs ,and prevent liquidation and collapse of uk banking system it is not fair to imply scotland has been a burden to england we need them as much as they need this, however i think that if scotland went independant without oil it would not be able to service it share of national debt epecially with liabilities of rbs hbos dunfermaline with the prospect of it turning even sourer than it is allready is judge by there shares ,in the past if had all oil royalties no tax in scotland

jacko99


Joined: 26/06/2009
Posts: 52

Message Posted:
01/12/2009 02:21

GIANT BS everyone knows royalties paid to uk but oil piped to scotland in uk and i doubt hey would have piped some of oil to berwick so england got royalties even what is left of american oil comps in venezuela do not pipe back to yankyland they land it in venez and pay royalties to chavez it is a fact if we wanted oil we would have had to pay royalties to scots and they would have been rich, i really do think some of you people out there are racists bigots and surprised you are living in foriegn country and another thing we have some of our best solders come from scotland what fighters and warriors just show them braveheart and they fight anywhere mind you i still think we would have had a better footy team if were uk team with likes of ryan giggs an some of other scots players and we woul have had george best , now lets grow up and stop all this spitefull crap about scotland and how it is drain on resourses,and rubbish about mars bars its offensive

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
01/12/2009 13:21

Well said Jacko99...........................

Dixie Normus


Joined: 22/02/2008
Posts: 820

Message Posted:
01/12/2009 13:51

Hope Scotland get independance and Wales should have it aswell, the brits have been subing these hangers on for far to long, good ridance to the midgy infested wetlands.



D.N

tattlad


Joined: 13/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
01/12/2009 14:03

Too right DN it will save England a fortune getting rid of them.......

cyprusairsoft



Joined: 22/06/2009
Posts: 2066

Message Posted:
01/12/2009 14:52

oer missus love they neighbour

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
01/12/2009 15:01

Arguments for Scottish Independence.

Britishness is dying. Scotland has its own parliament, its own laws and legal system. National feeling and self-confidence are high. It is time to take the next step.

Semi-independence is unsatisfactory. Fiscal powers and economic control remain at Westminster. Independence will allow Scotland to cut business taxes (like Ireland) to promote economic growth.

Other small countries like Norway and the Republic of Ireland are more successful and more dynamic. An independent Scotland will have the tools to match them.

Independence would give Scotland clout where it matters: a seat at the UN and in the EU Council of Ministers. Scottish interests, eg. fisheries and agriculture, are poorly served in Brussels by UK ministers.

Relations between Scots and English are deteriorating. Independence would free Scotland from dependency and England from resentment. An amicable no-faults divorce is better than a bickering marriage.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
01/12/2009 15:02

Arguments against Independence

The Union has served both countries well for 300 years. Devolution is a young experiment, and it is too soon to judge it.

There is a gap between public spending in Scotland (£40bn) and revenue raised there (£27bn). A Scottish government would have to choose between higher taxes and cuts in public services.

Scotland has more influence in Brussels as part of the UK than it could have as an independent state.

The integrated British economy is more capable than an independent Scotland would be of meeting the challenges of globalisation. Likewise, having independent defence and security structures would overstrain Scotland's resources.

Scots should recognise that devolution has put England at a disadvantage, and should press for reforms to the way Westminster works. Satisfying English grievances would put the marriage back on an even keel. Divorce is unnecessary and would be painful.

walkerscott


Joined: 13/08/2009
Posts: 901

Message Posted:
01/12/2009 15:12

If the English can't even be recognised, then there is no hope for Scotland getting independence!

Scotland could not afford the bill for security and defence alone.



The English in England haven't even got a First Minister or their own house to debate issues in. The Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish peoples should be pleased they have what they have got and stop moaning!



An "Englishman" with the name of Scott