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mikki09


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Message Posted:
30/11/2009 23:10

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I can't believe how expensive it is for electric here in Lapta.



orangekazzie



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30/11/2009 23:18

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Its not just Lapta. Electricity is very expensive all over the Island.



mikki09


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30/11/2009 23:20

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When I was in Karsiyaka they were less than half than what I am paying now. Do not understand that.



BillyB


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30/11/2009 23:31

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Oh go on rub it in. You lucky lucky b#stards, some people on here would give there right arm and generators away to have electric bill.



henrik



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30/11/2009 23:43

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The electric per kWh is nearly the same price as here in germany.. what I see is that in TRNC you use much more because of all the appliances, such as aircondition etc.. I pay in Berlin 15 euro cent per kWh and in TRNC its 34 kuruş.. = same.. Still cheap for TRNC if you consider that they are producing electricity in the most expensive means.. by burning fuel oil.. I think KıbTek pay ontop for each porduced kWh.. its about 5-8 kuruş which is subsidised by TRNC government, TR....



henrik



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30/11/2009 23:44

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BillyB: for the people who want to keep both arms and be free of future electric bills, consider: http://www.kibsolar.com



Maz


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01/12/2009 01:25

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Maybe this is a silly question, but if you are paying double in Lapta as opposed to Karsiyaka, is your house by any chance still paying at builders' rate? This can happen. It happened to us although the owners had been living here for five years. They had never had the electricity board in to inspect and approve, and then put the place on the domestic tarriff.



That is the only explanation I can offer. If not, is your meter faulty. Have a word with the electric compay - but nicely. Why? Cos they like a bit of charm, it works like oil on an engine.!



kenny b


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 01:49

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I have an appartment in Esentepe and we pay around 13 pence per unit on my Kibtek meter.

keep posting

keep smiling

Kenny



scruff


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 02:03

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message 1.



The rates are, as has been pointed out, the same thoughout the TRNC, so if you are paying more for the same no. of units, then you are on a different tariff to that in Karsiyaka.



re message 5.

Henrik, You are quoting 34 kurus per unit? It becomes progressively dearer in the TRNC the more units that you use. This is completely opposite to the pricing structure in the UK. Are things different in Germany? Also average incomes are far higher in UK & Germany. I know this is not relevant to the cost of producing 1 Kwh, but it is a fact.

The rates in the TRNC are 30 kurus each unit for first 250 units, 35 kurus for the next 250, 38 kurus for the next 250 & 50 kurus for any more over 750 units per month. Then plus a service charge 10% KDV (VAT).

The end result is that each unit actually costs 38/39 kurus per unit on a bill 500 units and over per month. This is approx 0.16 per unit & is much dearer than the current pricing in UK. How does this compare with Germany?



scruff


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01/12/2009 02:11

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Should have said plus a service charge & then plus KDV.

At the end of the day the cost of electricity in TRNC is a much larger percentage of monthly income than in UK. & probably that in Germany too?

This year I'm likely to spend 2875 TL (in excess of of 1,200). When I first moved to the TRNC. in 2002 my annual electricity bill was 930 TL - approx 400. Now that's 300% more, inflationary & not just down to oil prices.



deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 06:52

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Electricity here is ridiculously expensive, our bill is around 120 a month in summer reducing to about 80.



deecyprus4


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01/12/2009 06:56

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Gas central heating is the most expensive..400 a month, I except that I have my heating on a lot but no more than I would in the UK, so I think it is ludicrous, water in winter is cheap as we get it from the mains but summer we have to buy from water lorries and that is not cheap!



smithy


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01/12/2009 07:23

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I live in Girne and as Dee said my bills are around 360/400ytl in the Summer months going down in the winter which is so expensive



keithcaley



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01/12/2009 08:26

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Buider's rate for Electricity, as someone has already pointed out, is much more expensive - it's 90 Kuruş a unit, +standing charge +KDV - and that's a flat rate, it doesn't matter how much or how little you use.

Look at your electricity bill, and check what rate you are being charged at - if it says all units @ 90 Kuruş, then you're on Builder's rate - go to Kibtek and find out how to get off it! - You need the office upstairs, helpful bloke, speaks English.

If it starts off with 250 (or thereabouts) @ 30 Kuruş, 250@ 36 Kuruş, and so on, then you're on normal rates - so if the bill is very high, then either you're using a hell of a lot of electricity, or there's a fault, or someone else is using your electricity as well - It would pay you to check the serial number on YOUR electricity meter against the number quoted on the bill, and confirm that the 'start' and 'end' meter readings actually tally - it has been known for 'mistakes' to be made...



mikki09


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 09:35

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Thanks for all the replies.



JohhnyLee


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01/12/2009 10:36

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Message 4 you have a point. Electric is not expensive, you only realise that when you don,t have it, try living off generators for 10 months, When you cosider the investment that goes into producing electricity and keeping you supplied I think then you see it differently. But it really is only when you are forced to live with out it that this hits home.



I think we all take it for granted, If your bills are to high then you need to cut down, you can manage with out it 24/7.



And don,t be to disillusioned, energy bills in UK are also high, Looking forward to our first elec bill. Hopefully in the not to distant future.



(oh that,s after wev'e parted with a further 10 K) I remember the builder standing behind our plot saying yes no problem, just one post electric is right here,



Little did we know that Kibtec would prefer to come the long way and use 11 posts.



Pipie


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01/12/2009 11:20

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If you pay Kibtek to change name from builder to individual owner do you automaticly come off buiders electric tarrif ?



TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 11:33

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Whilst not defending Kib Tek, the high cost of electricity here, v. the UK, can be attributed to, amongst other things:

1. The small size of the market. 200,000 v. 68,000,000

2. The lack of competition. Kib Tek v. Dozens of competing suppliers

3. Public ownership of the supplier. Nationalised v. Privatised

4. Dependance on small scale generation without the option to "import" cheaper electricity. Small power stations v. Very large power stations in UK and imported Nuclear Powered electricity generation from France.



Until the Cyprus Problem is solved, the above conditions look set to remain.



tattlad


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 14:12

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It's still not as expensive as the UK.....



jinyx


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 18:20

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Just had an electric bill for 750tl for one month. On checking why, I found the immersion heater was on constantly.

This prompted me to check , and find where to cut down. Found there were fourteen old type bulbs around the place @ 100 watts each so swopped these for low energy brought over from the uk @ 50p each and using 10 watts each

result... , well time will tell but, the new ones, only use 10% of the old which should make quite a difference. Low energy lamps are quite expensive here, maybe a ploy to keep the coppers coming in for the electricity company!.



joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 18:36

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Keith re your message 14 the rate for builders electric is 0.79 for every unit + 10%.



keithcaley



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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 19:09

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Thanks for that - I WAS running on 'hearsay' and thought that I'd better err on the side of caution!



Brinsley


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 19:14

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Bills, Williams are all very expensive here, ask No1Doyen how much he charges!



Richard



Brinsley


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Message Posted:
01/12/2009 21:19

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Bill



No price on your head?!



Richard



No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
02/12/2009 09:24

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Quite right Richard. My charge out rate is very expensive - but then again my advice is priceless!



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