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jimbo


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02/12/2009 20:37

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Just read that a ferry is going to run between isreal and famagusta that will bting 100,00 isrealie peoples to the north http://www.famagusta-gazette.com/default.asp?. I reckon this will be great for nc economy and also bring a more diverse north cyprus what do you all think



adagirl


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02/12/2009 20:43

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Well as a furniture business we are very happy and have indeed sold a few packages to the Isrealies - who I have to say are very cultured and polite - a pleasure to meet.



Coachie



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Do not expect to much.They have an inherent dislike of parting with their hard earned cash....



Mindy



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Maybe NC will become the new 'Sharm el Sheikh'



Coachie



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It does surprise me that as many as 10000 ayear coming to what is predominately a Muslim country.Wonder what the locals think about it???



adagirl


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Nothing to do with religion, they like the Island, the people and the food etc like we do!



newlad



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02/12/2009 21:24

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Good news in my opinion.The North needs an influx of tourists whatever their religion,

Paul.



Brinsley


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02/12/2009 21:27

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GAMBLING!



Richard



jimbo


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02/12/2009 21:28

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Coachie do i detect a tad of anti semitism from you, in my view the jews are wealth creaters who are responsible for some of the biggest and most successful bussinesses in the world



beno12



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02/12/2009 21:31

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The Ferrys is going to be a Casino its a idea from Cafer Curcafer this is where the sum of 300 million dollars profit comes from "The company hopes to make profits of 300 million dollars per year."



newlad



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02/12/2009 21:33

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Beno,

Have these trips already started,

Paul.



Magbs


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02/12/2009 21:40

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This story was already posted by malsancak



Headlines like this pop up every couple of years if not months. I do not think there is any real behind these news. Called my travel agent a week ago. He knew nothing about it. And the local press says nothing about it. Unfortunately, a 40 min flight to Larnaca is still the only option.



Magbs


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02/12/2009 21:42

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Re 6



Spot on, adagirl



Coachie, "Wonder what the locals think about it". Based on my last visit I think the locals liked us.



newlad



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02/12/2009 21:50

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Maqbs,

Beg to differ on your post 12 and all the other negative posters on here,

Paul.



Dixie Normus


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02/12/2009 22:12

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If the Isrealies are looking at NC its a case of make a quick buck and p off, thease people are not in for the long term ,not to be trusted & ruthless in their dealings. land grabbing robbers beware.



D.N



beno12



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02/12/2009 22:26

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Paul.

Cafer Curcafer has been trying to get this business adventure of the ground for the last year or so credit loan from the Gov..which was turned down ,looks like hes found backers . Its not in Service but he hopes to get going early 2010 !!

Knowing him ..it will happen

The plan is to ferry isrealies back & forth so they can have a good gamble on the ferry take a few days break in his Hotel the Mimoza which is next to the Salamis Conti.

You may know gambling is not allowed in isreal ca 10 years back or so I used to see them the isrealies arriving via Ercan, in the Famagusta area just for a weekend of gambling they would say " we learn to use machine guns..but are not allowed to have fun & gamble"!!!

Big business...



elko2



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02/12/2009 22:37

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I will be very surprised if Cafer Gurcafer can pull this one. I will say no more.

ismet



parkview



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Re 5 and 15, I never realised there was so much anti - semitism on here, better a quality israeli than a cheap brit .The only people on this forum that always moan about the price of everything is the british. Cheap stereo typical rascism.!



Coachie



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02/12/2009 22:58

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Jimbo..no anti semitism at all.I was asking what the local Muslim population thought about it.Its not very long ago that I was accused of standing up for Israel over the Gaza War.They do have this thing with Muslims though,been going on for a long time now. My statement about them not liking to part with their money is donkeys years old.No I certainly do not dislike the Israeli nation at all,admire them sometimes for the way they stand up for their country...



beno12



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02/12/2009 23:01

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ismet

Time will tell !!!

I know he,s got many enemys ,the reasons many..many, as you know ismet ,say no more...your right there,ismet.

Chris



Brinsley


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02/12/2009 23:02

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Ismet

Absolutely correct, Talat is saving this little enterprise for himself after he gets ousted from office next April!



Richard



sporty


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aparently 7200 italians are coming next year too via an agreement with an italian travel company,its only a matter of time that NC will become a poular destination for many different countries,i think its a good thing personally,i just hope 10yrs time it wont be ruined like parts of spain etc.



DutchCrusader



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02/12/2009 23:16

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RE msg 15, Dixie Normus: (...) If the *Isrealies* are looking at NC its a case of make a quick buck and p off, thease people are not in for the long term ,not to be trusted & ruthless in their dealings. land grabbing robbers beware. D.N. (...)

=> If the *British* are looking at NC its a case of make a quick buck and p off, these people are not in for the long term, not to be trusted & ruthless in their dealings. land grabbing robbers beware". DC

The difference is one word - but the word of your choice makes it a racist remark, Dixie. Read again.



beno12



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02/12/2009 23:17

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Offshore Casino.. Tax Free !!!!



marcosthechef



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02/12/2009 23:28

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The only problem i see about this venture is as follows; If they are going to make 300million $ £ euro shekals, wotever, surely by the time the Israelies get here, there gonna all be skint, coz they have gambled it all away, on the way ?? Am i wrong ??



beno12



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02/12/2009 23:39

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True, they use the Hotels just to sleep then its back on the ferry to play...

They used to do this when they took a flight to Ercan for a 3 day Casino trip booked the Hotel Rooms but never used the rooms spent days in the Casino...



mmmmmm



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03/12/2009 04:07

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First it was the British, then the Russians and now the Israelis .....



bridie


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For those of us who have put some time in here and experienced the bad performance of the Israelis in the early nineties , ie , unpaid taxi fares, unpaid restaurant bills, unpaid boat trips, food throwing at evening meals in some of the Hotels, attempting to strip the belly dancer at the Olive Tree Hotel in Catalkoy, and urinating in the swimming pool.

Having seen this "holier than thou" attitude, and being on the receiving end of their arrogance, I think some how this won't happen.

They were stopped coming here, and the aircraft carrying them were turned back to Istanbul.

Yes, there are many wealthy business men, but they hang on to their money, they are not going to give it away here.

I also met some very nice educated Israelis who were ashamed to speak Hebrew, and only spoke Spanish or English here.

As Ismet says, "we will wait and see".



Coachie



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03/12/2009 18:32

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Parkview..How do you make my statement "anti-semetism".I was enquiring what the local Muslim Population will think about it. If you think my question was bad read MSG28.......



julian


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Hi,

I travel one vito and its like you are in your home,he got every thikng in hi vitto Dvd Player,Leather Seats, Small Refergerator with full of drinks, n Small Tabels next tiem try this and the driver also speak good english ,if you wanna contact him go to this web site info@northcyprustaxiservice.com



Thank You



MarkVPiazza


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03/12/2009 18:40

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I think the Israelis and TCs have a lot in common.



I'm sure they will enjoy the island, as well as a bit of gambling



Mark



parkview



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Hi Coachie, actually my mistake as it was message 3 not 5 that I thought was out of order using type casting in such a negative way. I have many muslim friends here and to be honest most of them prefer the israelis to the brits. Also there is a massive jewish contigent living in Istanbul and has been for many years, there is no problem there either. The jewish and muslim culture are more alike than any other religion I know. Some of my best customers are Israeli and I have found them b



parkview



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Some of my best customers are Israeli and I they had no problem with them "parting with their money"



JohhnyLee


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03/12/2009 19:31

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I find it very bad to type cast any race or group, Our first next door neighbours in TRNC are from Israel, wonderful family, They work hard and the my friend holds a very skilled position in one of the quality building companies here, and at the age of 8 their son was described by his teacher whom we happened to meet, as a mathematical genius.



A really lovley family.



Ballyboffin


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The Irish & Scots would come if CTA would re-start flights from Belfast & Glasgow !



Magbs


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Coachie,



Personally, I find nothing insulting in your question (msg 5). It only proves you don't really know them. No problem, you are invited to enjoy a glass of superb Mt. Carmel wine over here



As for your "statement about them not liking to part with their money"… well, I have no idea what it's based on, definitely not on statistics of israeli expenditures on travel abroad.



magbs, Israel.



Magbs


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Bridie,



That's a real shame. I can easily imagine this, unfortunately, because I have seen similar things in other places. I am sorry to hear that class of people was attracted by NC casinos. Yes, I am aware of the existence of those lower class social misfits, very small in quantity but quite noisy. You may meet them at some low cost Turkish or Bulgarian all-inclusives. They are an embarrassment to their families and the nation.

Nevertheless, in my many travels overseas, the few Israelis who behaved badly were the sort of people we would not have had anything to do with at home either, and to throw mud at the whole population is pure prejudice.



The problem is that nobody remembers the tourists who are polite and civilized. It's always going to be the obnoxious ones who stand out in people's minds, and as far as the normative Israelis are concerned they can hardly be distinguished at all.



Maz


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03/12/2009 20:20

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Haven't you read that the Israeli's are investing big money in propertyhere! They have taken over from where the Brits left off (literally). So, it figures it is a right move to come over by ferry from Haifa. London contacts seem to believe it will happen, but they are also expecitng a lot of GC opposition.



I have asked my travel agent for a ticket for the maiden voyage, which is supposed to be in January or February and a 650 passenger ship has already been purchased (so they say).



So, for all of us - wait and see.



As for me, some of my best friends have been, are and probably always be, Jewish! Can';t wait to sail away and meet them instead of the hassle of going to Larnaca.



Final comment to those who have written about some of the representatives of the Israeli nation, as my dear old mother used to say 'There is good and bad in every race.' And I hate to say that some of them are British. Ooops.



Ballyboffin


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Might be wrong here ( Admit I am sometimes !!!!!!!!!! ) BUT wasn't it Israeli money that built the Artemis Hotel and apt.complex at Bafra ?



MarieB.



Totaly agree with your final comment. xxx



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