solicitors

BckBlue


Joined: 23/05/2008
Posts: 6


Message Posted:
23/05/2008 14:23

Can anyone reccomend a solicitor for buying in North Cyprus i am looking at the Thalassa resort. thanks in advance.

kavenkoy



Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 300


Message Posted:
23/05/2008 14:41

hi bckblue



where is thalassa resort ?



lots of advocates in n.c try to get one totally seperate from any developer or agents .



aint the cheapest but she done very good job so far and have got what we paid for etc etc .



could recommend her if she was your way ?



kav

BckBlue


Joined: 23/05/2008
Posts: 6


Message Posted:
23/05/2008 18:57

North Cyprus Bafra, Naomi Mehmit has been mentioned as a solicitor does any know of or used this firm?

kavenkoy



Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 300


Message Posted:
23/05/2008 19:05

ermmheard that one when i was looking around as well ,didnt use them so cant advise either way



kav

the butler


Joined: 22/06/2007
Posts: 197


Message Posted:
23/05/2008 19:37

Hi BckBlue,



Yes we used Naomi Mehmet, very good lawyer but expensive. I would try Cenk Boyer, he doesn't work for developers only for purchasers and he is in Girne.



The butlers wife

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 571


Message Posted:
23/05/2008 22:01

Simple answer, never trust any member of the law profession. That means anywhere in the world!



You may receive recommendations here but you will also here stories with opposite viewpoints of all.



You must go to an advocat with a list of questions you want answering and if you are not happy go elswhere.



There is one already mentioned here that started with excellent recomendations and then on the grapevine we here they were involved in shady dealings. So what do you do?? Afraid it has got to be "gut instinct"

andysue


Joined: 12/11/2007
Posts: 148


Message Posted:
23/05/2008 22:11

we are useing naomi memhet and partners who are based in kyrenia. im happy with them to date , they are dealing with our purchase at sweetwaterbay we have had several meetings with them during the course of our purchase and im happy i chose them. but they are expensive . regards andrew

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 1459


Message Posted:
24/05/2008 06:53

Joke.....



What do you call 2 advocates on the bottom of Kyrenia harbour?...........



















a good start!



wynyardman

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 1119


Message Posted:
24/05/2008 14:00

i will nominate 1 ............manure the killer

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 700


Message Posted:
24/05/2008 18:29

Hakki onen, first class, Famagusta.onenlaw@kktc.net

Linus


Joined: 04/05/2008
Posts: 47


Message Posted:
24/05/2008 21:27

I used Naomi Mehmet and no complaints so far. Contracts signed and registered within 7 /8 weeks after buying property. as already stated she is about the most expensive because of her good reputation

Aussie


Joined: 17/06/2007
Posts: 143


Message Posted:
24/05/2008 21:46

I use Cenk Boyer, who as the butler wife said above doesn't work for developers but only for purchasers and he is in Girne near the Colony Hotel.



I found him good to deal with and unlike a lot of advocates I have heard about didn't try to profiteer over the recent contract stamping and registration process by charging exhorbitant extra charges



I orginally got his name from the HBPG



Aussie

sjw1979


Joined: 09/04/2007
Posts: 154


Message Posted:
25/05/2008 09:36

I also use CENK BOYLER, top guy, will do anything for you. If you need his email I will send you it

ajney


Joined: 30/04/2008
Posts: 35


Message Posted:
25/05/2008 09:38

Excuse my ignorance what is the HPBG please

watty


Joined: 04/04/2008
Posts: 68


Message Posted:
25/05/2008 09:43

I have used Naomi Mehmet and found them to be very good. they may be more expensive than others but as in all things you only get what you pay for cheap ain't all ways the best option.

lovelife


Joined: 07/07/2007
Posts: 180


Message Posted:
25/05/2008 09:48

Ajney



HBPG is the home buyers pressure group

email is http://www.hbpg-trnc.net

Valuable source of info.



LL

Aga Buyers A G


Joined: 04/10/2007
Posts: 74


Message Posted:
25/05/2008 09:56

Just remember



There are NO solicitors in the TRNC, just Advocates



ABAG

xxxxxxx

gillken


Joined: 25/05/2008
Posts: 62


Message Posted:
02/06/2008 23:08

Hi has anyone used this firm and this particular solicitor. Irem Mustafa Söker H&A Law Firm, was told he practiced in uk as barrister in crimminal law, bizzare he is now doing convayencing in TRNC, have asked for confirmation of qualifications, fallen on death ears.

I am wanting to buy Green Hills Villas in Tatisulu, but am getting increasingly put off. The developer has told me the road is private to the villas, seems wrong information. He now states road will be tarmaced by government next year, does this happen how can he prove this or am I expected to take his word for it??

Told verbally by developer would pay no more than £1000 for services to villa. Contract states now £1500!

Solicitor wants £1000 up front.

There are other little things that make me feel edgy, am I being paroniod?

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 1459


Message Posted:
02/06/2008 23:25

gillken,



No you are not! Your gut instinct is spot on!

Best advice. Follow STRICTLY the advise on HPBG website. They are the best, and do not charge for their help. They are also the most knowledgeable.

Do not forget.....CAVEAT EMPTOR.



wynyardman

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 206


Message Posted:
02/06/2008 23:46

Hi BcKBlue, I have heard Naomi Mehmet is good from several people. I have personally used Dervis Akter in Girne, He is Old Skool and His Son Bugra is very good. Very friendly very professional and used to be on the Bench in Istanbul. Tel number +90 392 815 1097 (They speak very good English) Please mention my name Neale if you call them...They will look after you and average conveyencing fee is £1000.



Good luck and regards



Nunu1 (Neale)

cocos


Joined: 04/04/2008
Posts: 35


Message Posted:
03/06/2008 07:51

I agree with wyniardman - the more these estate agents and cowboy builders realise we won't be fooled anymore the less likely they may be to try and scam us. There's much more information on the web these days for potental buyers to see. We can all ask questions now! Go with your gut!

joandjelly



Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 318


Message Posted:
03/06/2008 10:06

For all the people who think NM is good because she charges a lot of money I would ask if your sale is complete and you have your deeds. Has she assisted with any dispute resolution, successfully sued in court, etc. Please don't get me wrong, I haven't used this firm and don't know anybody who has but unfortunately, none of us can truly recommend if we are still in the process of buying which is one of the reasons why I do not recommend my advocate although I have no real complaints.



Re Irem Mustafa Söker at H&A, my friend has recently instructed him in the purchase of her apartment. He is a young man who has worked in London and has perfect English. So far so good, he explained fully what service he will provide and has confirmed this in writing. The firm has 3 partners, Hasan Hasipoglu, Oguzhan Hasipoglu and Mustafa Akbilen. You can find out more about their background from their website http://www.lawyercyprus.com/index.html. None of them are quoted as having been a barrister in the UK.



My advice would be to visit a prospective advocate and ask some questions. As Cyprusishome has said I think gut instinct plays a big part.

Chris



Joined: 26/03/2008
Posts: 437


Message Posted:
03/06/2008 13:32

Gillian

I have e-mailed you

Chris

RoyMcKeown


Joined: 02/06/2008
Posts: 3


Message Posted:
03/06/2008 17:09

Bugra Akter (already recommended above) speaks excellent English and is one of the few solicitors I have come across that comes up with proactrive suggestions.



Also, I tried to buy a house (supposed to be 'pre '74) he did a seach and stoped me from buying it. Imagine - a TRNC solicitor doing searches - whatever next!



Reasonable fees too.

Roy

Turtle



Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 214


Message Posted:
03/06/2008 18:53

I think the legal system is so poor in NC that most Advocates have no real clout and really do have to bounce along with no real success.

The builders do as they like and the Law Firms can,t really do anything about it........sadly.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 1459


Message Posted:
03/06/2008 18:55

Turtle,



It doesnt stop them demanding their fees!



wyn

Turtle



Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 214


Message Posted:
03/06/2008 19:31

Yes wyn, and we are daft enough to pay em

Chris



Joined: 26/03/2008
Posts: 437


Message Posted:
03/06/2008 19:57

The problem is you do not realise you have no redress with the builders until you have paid the fees, and the solicitors do not tell you the contract is not worth the paper it is written on.

My builder has just threatened to pull out of my contract, keep twenty thousand pounds of my money, try and pay me back the rest if he manages to sell the property, all because he didnt read the contract, even though it was explained to him in Turkish, he understood enough to sign every page and take the first 3 payments!

Chris

Boredhousewife



Joined: 15/03/2007
Posts: 883


Message Posted:
03/06/2008 20:10

We use Naomi Mehmet and have been pleased so far.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 1459


Message Posted:
03/06/2008 20:21

Chris,



We hear this same modus operandi so often.



It appears almost endemic in the coulture.



wyn

georgiegirl


Joined: 15/06/2008
Posts: 5


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 20:47

hi ,we have just reserved an apartment in thalassa and need a lawyer, savills have put the name of munir akil forward has anyone dealt with him, or should i be looking for a lawyer not reccomended by savills

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 1569


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 20:49

hi georgiegirl , welcome to the forum , there's a lot of infomation on lawyers see above posts

regards , simbas

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 751


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 21:15

Georgiegirl, you should be looking for an independent advocate. Do a search on the above named solicitor and you may hear some things you don't like. Seek advice from HBPG.

MCSTEVIET



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 696


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 21:21

I concur with Bradus, we made the same enquiries last year and didn't then use him



MC

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 751


Message Posted:
15/06/2008 23:38

For some unknown reason this advocate seems to be continually recommended by a well know estate agent despite being linked to some very shadey deals. Says alot about the estate agent as well as the advocate.

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 571


Message Posted:
16/06/2008 06:26

Bradus,



IMHO, if an avocat is recommended by an estate agent keep as far away as possible.

Harold2555


Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 53


Message Posted:
16/06/2008 07:15

Arif Eissen in Famagusta speaks excellent English and has been very helpful. Likewise Tagmac Bilgehan in Famagusta

joandjelly



Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 318


Message Posted:
16/06/2008 08:18

I have read on other threads that people are putting a lot of faith in Savills because they assume they are a fine, upstanding company (which they may well be) and are therefore prepared to pay a premium because they are the agent. Bit silly on their behalf for obviously not doing their homework or was this particular advocate the one who was prepared to give them the biggest cut?? Makes you wonder.



I personally would not touch Savills with a bargepole for this reason.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 1569


Message Posted:
16/06/2008 09:12

will agree with harold2555 , arif tahir erisen we have used him , we have no complaints , very decent chap

regards , simbas

georgiegirl


Joined: 15/06/2008
Posts: 5


Message Posted:
17/06/2008 15:15

hi everyone

could some please send me Cenc Bowler email address

many thanks

pat

Britbabe


Joined: 29/08/2007
Posts: 4


Message Posted:
06/07/2008 14:12

The solicitor I am using is Mustsfa Guryel.

paragraph from their letter " Once appointed we shall assist you throughout the full legal process including first appointment and briefing, conveyancing, application to the ministry of internal affairs for permission to register the property in your name, assigning power of attorney, conveyance procedure and registering title in your name.

The estimated time to obtain permission to register the title in your name as a non-national is 12-16 months from the time the keys of the property are handed over. Our fees in full for the service outlined above are £800"



email: gulboy@guryellaw.com



Hope this helps



Les

Turtle



Joined: 28/05/2007
Posts: 214


Message Posted:
06/07/2008 14:23

Britbabe, We use Guryel law firm so far they have done what they said they would do, however they did charge me more than £800 (good for you).

The only problem is they simply do not keep you upto date, you have to pester them for any information.

SusanJ


Joined: 26/07/2008
Posts: 2


Message Posted:
26/07/2008 17:43

Hey there, would appreciate Cenk Boyer's e.mail. We are considering a purchase at Thalassa Beach resort and want un-biased advise.



happysslater@hotmail.com





Thanks

mitsi


Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 21


Message Posted:
14/08/2008 08:55

Don't buy here. Vote with your feet. Maybe then and only then will they get their act together. We will continue to rent until this time or move on.

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 730


Message Posted:
14/08/2008 09:48

We paid 1,200 to a solicitor who we thought was up to the job , normal checks we carried out , he was on list of solicitors we sourced on the net , outcome rubbish , hardly answers E-mails , always on holiday , in my opinion go on personal recomendations , but make sure its more than 2 or 3 . Hope this helps .

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 571


Message Posted:
14/08/2008 11:29

Old joke.



How do you tell when a solicitor is lying?



His lips are moving!!

kendo


Joined: 10/08/2008
Posts: 2


Message Posted:
16/08/2008 21:53

Hi Sara Jane



I see that you have Cenk Boyler's e mail and would be grateful if you would let me have it.



Many thanks



Ken

PIPIE


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 730


Message Posted:
16/08/2008 22:28

If i was buying today i would look for a solicitor to pay in stages .

bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 751


Message Posted:
16/08/2008 22:34

I would ask for written confrmation of what their services included.

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 700


Message Posted:
16/08/2008 22:45

would it actually make any difference if they write it down, probably not

bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 751


Message Posted:
16/08/2008 22:47

No, but if they do not abide by what you have agreed, you can take your buisness elewhere.

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 700


Message Posted:
16/08/2008 22:53

Like me, buy the time you relise perhaps things are not happening as you imagined you've been waiting a few years for ptp for pre74 title you were told was just a formality.

bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 751


Message Posted:
16/08/2008 23:12

Everyone is still told its a formality. We are only wise in hindsight!



Wish I had known about such forums when I was buying.

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 700


Message Posted:
16/08/2008 23:17

Sue, I did change solicitors but did'nt alter situation, think now perhaps I should have written contract, and included massive compensation if ptp was'nt granted with say 24months. Particularly as it reduces potential of resale, or in the event of leasehold substitution, obviously worth less than freehold. Wonder if it would have been a deal breaker. probably.

Nasist60


Joined: 06/03/2008
Posts: 31


Message Posted:
17/08/2008 22:54

Kendo



Cenk Bolayir's email address is:



cbolayir@lglconsulting.com



Tel: 00 90 392 815 0544

bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 751


Message Posted:
17/08/2008 23:17

Paul only thing we have in our contract regarding ptp is:



The purchaser shall apply for the grant of the necessary permission in accordance with the Immovable Property Acquisition. Should the permission be refused or at their discretion, the purchasers may nominate any other person to take title to the property.

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 700


Message Posted:
17/08/2008 23:28

We have similar cause, strange, perhaps they knew situation would arise, potential problem may have been common Knowledge within legal circles even then.

pilgrim



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 700


Message Posted:
17/08/2008 23:35

tpying error in last post, should read clause not cause

bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 751


Message Posted:
17/08/2008 23:40

The only likely people to nominate would be family members. Unlikely they would get ptp but hey look on the bright side, it would take another 5 years for refusal.