How many Greek soldiers on Cyprus

Mr Vince


Joined: 24/07/2008
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Message Posted:
09/12/2009 12:51

A friend of mine who lives in the South lives next door to a Greek mainland soldier. He has assured her that there are very few Greek soldiers on Cyprus. Does anyone know how many a few are?

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
09/12/2009 13:00

The Cyprus National Guard has about 10,000 Greek Cypriot soldiers but many of its senior officers are from Greece, apart from 1,250 Greek troops stationed in the south.

Rodzilla


Joined: 22/10/2009
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Message Posted:
09/12/2009 13:34

We should call in Rambo 10,000 thats nothing we could take the whole island haha

insider


Joined: 16/11/2009
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Message Posted:
09/12/2009 15:22

According to information given by General G.A.C. Hughes , United Nations force (UNFICYP), on 21.01.2009 :



Greek Cypriot national army: 12,500

Greek army (ELDYK) 1200-1500

Greek Cypriot Reserved army 60,000 (reserved: they keep guns and ammunitions at home)



Turkish Cypriot national army 3,000

Turkish army 21,000 (not 40,000 as Greek Cypriot government insists)

mamachina


Joined: 22/11/2008
Posts: 730

Message Posted:
09/12/2009 15:33

Lets hope the ones with guns and ammunition at home - under the bed - keep them there!

Mr Vince


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Message Posted:
09/12/2009 16:14

60,000 armed Southern Cypriots. Why the hell are they allowed to keep weapons and amunition at home if they are reservists? I would be quite concerned if the Turkish army marched out of Cyprus leaving the door open to 60,000 fully armed and trained Southern Cypriots.

andre 514


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
09/12/2009 23:59

I can't see north cyprus lasting out the day if turkey really left



on the other hand turkey has stated again and again

they would never abandon cyprus "just to get into the eu"

and contrary to some opinion south of the 'line, I believe them



also the steady increase in turkish population in the north

will make it prohibitively difficult for turkey to leave,

more likely the north may be oblidged to become a turkish province



as regards the military balance,

nato turkey has a huge and combat-experienced armed forces

nuff said

bootneck



Joined: 23/06/2008
Posts: 242

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 09:58

I have to say 60,000 keep Weapons at home surely the EU and Un would not condone this?



Neil

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
10/12/2009 09:59

I didn't think there were any laws in the south that allowed you to keep a gun!

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
10/12/2009 10:13

Laws and Cyrus is a bit of an oxymoron seeing as they make them up as they go along lol

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
10/12/2009 10:17

I stand corrected:



http://www.police.gov.cy/police/police.nsf/All/311A194944EB1C5BC22574430049F239?OpenDocument

bootneck



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Posts: 242

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 11:20

Sorry cannot beleive the UN and EU would allow this 60,000 weapons in the hands of part timers its like giving candy to a baby!!

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
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Message Posted:
10/12/2009 12:00

I do believe the Swiss Army reservists keep their weapons and ammo at home. I also understand that they have a high suicide rate using these weapons and that the government/Army is thinking of taking the weapons into armories.

bootneck



Joined: 23/06/2008
Posts: 242

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 13:33

That would certainly make a lot of sense!!

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
17/12/2009 13:01

Dear Andre_514



re msg 7



>> I can't see north cyprus lasting out the day if turkey really left<<



Interesting that TR is the only member of the current security council to think that a UN presence is no longer required !!!



http://www0.un.org/News/Press/docs/2009/sc9815.doc.htm



As for the number of GR / TR troops



*I* reckon 1200 mainland Greeks and 35-40 mainland TR Troops - that's based on various NATO / UN estimates.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
18/12/2009 16:42

According to a GC on NCFP:

"GC reservists are actually 88,000 odd, and the National Guard is 12,000 odd, and the reason they keep their weapons and gear at home is to save precious time if they ever need to mobilize.

Every able-bodied male between the ages of 20 and 60, is a former soldier turned reservist, who can transform into a soldier in about 10 minutes and report to his company ready for action.

The RoC has learned its lesson from the mistakes of 1974 when stockpiles of weapons were looted and lost during the 74 coup, thereby rendering the country defenseless during Turkey’s invasion and advance."

http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com/wp-admin/post.php?action=edit&post=2020

malsancak


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Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
18/12/2009 17:13

So if the green line goes and Turkish troops return home?

Tasgirl


Joined: 31/12/2008
Posts: 100

Message Posted:
18/12/2009 19:08

Greece sent 20.000 troops to Cyprus, long before the Turkish Army arrived, check out this BBC baised news report

http://news.bbc,co.uk/1/shared/spthi/europe/04/cyprus/htmlin

Many stayed

rowlo



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Posts: 4796

Message Posted:
18/12/2009 20:12

msg16 if turkey had invaded , in the meaning of the word , invade , then surely we would,nt have a divided island , ie ,no body would speak greek ,no signs would be in greek , their would be for example ,no greeks ,turkey never invaded , it intervened to stop greek massacare of turks ,there was no mistakes made by greeks in 74 over weapons they had them all , but using them against women and kids was easier than using them against the turkish army , especially when the so called motherland also turned its back on them , turkey made a big mistake , they should have invaded , and today we would have no cyprus problem .

insider


Joined: 16/11/2009
Posts: 36

Message Posted:
19/12/2009 01:47

6m,

[*I* reckon 1200 mainland Greeks and 35-40 mainland TR Troops - that's based on various NATO / UN estimates.]



you don't have to reckon, ..... its UNFICYP says 21,000 mainland TR Troops not as 35-40 as you wish to believe.

Tenakoutou



Joined: 27/07/2009
Posts: 4110

Message Posted:
19/12/2009 10:29

The RoC has no air force to speak of.



And what use are their few Israeli built tanks, running around on the the Mesaoria Plain?



Even if every last Turkish soldier left tomorrow, the GC's wouldn't dare to attack with their ground force. They would run, like rabbits, as soon as they glimpsed the first Turkish jet in their airspace!

Aussie


Joined: 17/06/2007
Posts: 657

Message Posted:
19/12/2009 10:30

6M



The UN presence never secured a genuine peace before the Turkish intervention/ invasion and in the absence of Turkish troops or at least their backing would likely provide little protection now. Their presence is largely a waste of money and diverting of troops to countries where they are actually needed and could serve a useful purpose.



Aussie