Are we not allowed to discuss KAR now

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 10:08

KAR is a highly emotive subject which is a TRNC problem yet it seems it is now not open for discussion, lol why am I not surprised.

TinLondon


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 10:30

Sorry... please excuse my ignorance but what is KAR?

PaulW



Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 651

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 10:34

Kyrenia Animal Rescue



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TinLondon


Joined: 20/07/2009
Posts: 171

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 10:35

Thanks, Paul!

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 12:26

Go to the AGM and there you should be able to see the accounts. Unfortunately my wife a former shop manager was told by the head of KAR to warn me not to attend as I would have been ejected, because I had prevuiously asked why a ballot at the shop was kept secret from the staff and they would not reveal the votes cast. TRNC democracy in action?

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 12:30

Quarmby I know how much this must pain you to write as you were a great supporter of KAR when I first started posting, it is because of your postings that I truly hope others will see KAR for what it is.

Secrectcove


Joined: 06/12/2009
Posts: 59

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 12:33

Quarmby



I am told the ballot was not only secret but the result was dubious to say the least.

Quarmby


Joined: 15/09/2008
Posts: 975

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 12:42

Secretcove



I totally agree with you, they, KAR, are a registered charity and I would presume all their business should be open to public scrutiny.

Secrectcove


Joined: 06/12/2009
Posts: 59

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 13:02

'' all their business should be open to public scrutiny '' Including Ballots

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 13:03

Good job they are not involved in equine support otherwise accusations of 'horse trading' would be slung at them!



Richard

fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 13:06

Here we go again.



The KAR bashers are at it again. KAR are not perfect but I think that it is a unfair to describe them as a TRNC 'problem'. As I have said before, if people think that they can do a better job then get off your backsides and try to make a difference. Very easy to talk the talk, much harder to walk the walk.



As for the forum not being open for discussions about KAR, I think that people might just be fed up of having the same debate with no new ideas being brought to the table.



Just my opinion



Paul

Secrectcove


Joined: 06/12/2009
Posts: 59

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 13:20

fiendishpaul



Are you saying accounts and ballots should be secret and not be open and above board ?

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 13:36

All posts with insinuations, accusations and "I am told ... dubious to say the least" are malicious and show a sad village mentality. Facts, please.

henrik



Joined: 01/10/2009
Posts: 314

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 14:02

there is not only KAR but also BARK - near Tatlısu.. info for those who think about donating to animal rescues...

and anyone who wants to help ME and my environment, can make a donation to ME (Bank details per mail) and I will take care of it..

seriously, there is a project in Karşıyaka, which supplies renewable energy to schools, AGD Solar has finished a small installation in Karşıyaka Primary school, its called the Marry Whitton Project, its funded through monies donated by Marry Whitton who passed away.. http://kibsolar.com/content/eng/references.html

Animals are cute but not everything

Happy livings..

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 14:11

All of these issues have been discussed previously and any questions should be taken up directly with KARS. KARS will not enter into debate on this board so it is pointless of the pro/anti KARS members entering into a another slanging match.

AJ

puppylover



Joined: 05/05/2008
Posts: 1427

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 14:21

AJ



The voice of reason.....well done.

cyprusjoker


Joined: 29/08/2009
Posts: 1107

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 14:33

Urikar kar kar kar kar.!!

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 14:36

If there are issues that need to be addressed why aren't the people who are raising these issues on here, asking KAR to explain? After all KAR would know the answers.



So, to those people why aren't you doing that?

catalkoykid


Joined: 15/02/2009
Posts: 1190

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 14:44

i think half the island must be on back handers the way they close ranks when kar is mentioned its should stand for



KAR KEEP ANIMALS RACKET LOL

denizen



Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 388

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 14:54

msg 11: how does a person join the board of KAR? Are they elected by vote or by invitation from other board members? Never given it much thought before, just donated when asked, now wondering what/who, my money is supporting.



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fiendishpaul


Joined: 18/05/2008
Posts: 1720

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 15:00

Secretcove



I understand that KAR do publish their accounts and they are available to members of KAR. I also gather that the accounts are made available at their AGM. Just because they do not publish their accounts to all and sundry does not mean that there is anything to hide - alas, people chose to see it that way.



As for secret ballots, I have no knowledge of any taking place but then again I have nothing to do with the shop where the alleged secret ballot took place.



Finally, I agree with AJ. Nothing will get sorted on the forum, just the same bouys will be gone around again and again and again.........



Paul

puppylover



Joined: 05/05/2008
Posts: 1427

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 16:13

For those that are supporters/interested in KAR, if you go to their web page and click on the latest AGM minutes....item 4 gives an insight into where the money goes.



If you are influenced by the certain anti KAR members on this board, just remember.....no donations.....no KAR.....who will this affect?



And some people call themselves animal lovers!

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 16:14

Denizen I cant answer your questions regarding joining the board, but where does your money go, now that is the 64000 dollar question.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 16:26

puppylover we dont just call ourselves animal lovers, we are, KAR are a business, they are not in this because they love animals.



Anyone who genuinely loves animals would end the suffering of lots of them and certainly would not turn them out on the streets to be abused and killed.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 16:28

Here we go again.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 16:29

This thread is now closed. Reason: Thread was addressed and no need for further posts.

the2ofus


Joined: 13/02/2008
Posts: 637

Message Posted:
10/12/2009 16:36

I would like to know whether those that seem to have an ongoing problem with the way KAR is run, and repeatedly post their concerns and allegations (real or otherwise) on this forum, attended the KAR AGM this year and put their concerns and allegations (real or otherwise) to the KAR Committee ?

If not why not ?