The Legal System In North Cyprus Is INHUMANE !

Aga Buyers A G


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Message Posted:
11/12/2009 21:19

Below is an email passed to us by an AGA victim who has asked us to make it as public as possible. We have removed all of the private details of this victim, but it is becoming more .......



http://latchfords.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!AED4FE7679CA3C33!2229.entry



ABAG

dozza67


Joined: 11/07/2008
Posts: 607

Message Posted:
11/12/2009 21:36

It's hard to believe that they are being forced to fly out to Cyprus so near to Christmas. What about those that have to work? What about their children expecting their parents/grandparents to spend Christmas with them. They wouldn't have done this over Bayram. It's absolutely disgusting.

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
11/12/2009 21:47

Afraid to say it does appear quite deliberate. However that is not to say that a case in UK would not be called with similar short notice.



For the ABAG Ladies, would this have any link to the fact that Mr Robb's legal team has resigned according to CT? Is there a probability in that case that the people will get here to find the case adjourned or whatever?

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
11/12/2009 21:48

I know you will think this is harsh and for that I am sorry, but do you really think that a Court in any country in the world should have to consider the nationality of the plaintiff, what their religious beliefs may or may not be, their family arrangements, etc, etc, etc. I'm sorry but it is not "absolutely disgusting". If the courts are in session and your case is due to be heard then I'm afraid you have to make yourself available. Unfortunately, it is one of the downsides of initiating a lawsuit in a foreign country.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
11/12/2009 22:17

joandjelly, I don't think you quite get the point. Robb can't appear and that seems acceptable but if the plaintiffs can't appear the case is cancelled! The case had been moved from 4th December to fit in with Robb, it doesn't matter that the plaintiffs had come over. They could keep doing this until one-by-one the plaintiff's cases are cancelled because they ran out of money and couldn't afford the fares and accommodation. Does that sound like justice to you?

Aga Buyers A G


Joined: 04/10/2007
Posts: 488

Message Posted:
11/12/2009 22:35

The bigger problem will arise if we find out (and we do expect to) that in excess of 100 AGA cases are to be heard over Christmas - do they really expect every AGA Victim that has a legal case against AGA to travel to the TRNC over Christmas, we are not talking only one case - this is just an example on the blog of an email received by 1 AGA Victim, we expect to receive more of this type of email over the next few days



All victims should contact their lawyers immediately to find out what their personal position is



ABAG

Aga Buyers A G


Joined: 04/10/2007
Posts: 488

Message Posted:
11/12/2009 22:37

We have been told that the judges are sick to the back teeth of these cases and that all AGA cases are to be pushed through before the end of 2009, our source is normally very reliable !!!



ABAG

Aga Buyers A G


Joined: 04/10/2007
Posts: 488

Message Posted:
11/12/2009 22:43

cyprusishome



Yes, absolutely the case. we are just awaiting confirmation on a few more facts and then we will post a blog on the subject with other emails that we have now been sent regarding extra costs being asked for from the lawyers covering valuations etc.......



ABAG

Mr Vince


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 696

Message Posted:
11/12/2009 22:48

I have answered this on another entry but if anyone is stuck without accomodation then at a push I can accomodate 6

Earlybird


Joined: 28/04/2009
Posts: 816

Message Posted:
11/12/2009 22:56

Mr Vince you are a star, I should imagine it will be difficult enough for those involved to get flights. I won't be here so couldn't offer but would have liked to have helped.

pjnxi



Joined: 12/02/2009
Posts: 167

Message Posted:
11/12/2009 23:07

4 bed in Esentepe on offer pjnxi

joandjelly


Joined: 24/02/2008
Posts: 2953

Message Posted:
11/12/2009 23:11

Malsancak my comment was a general one regarding how courts operate. I do not know the full background to this case, how would I? I know it is an emotive subject but unfortunately the reality of being involved in a court case in a foreign country is that you will be expected to appear in court as and when the court sees fit.

Aga Buyers A G


Joined: 04/10/2007
Posts: 488

Message Posted:
11/12/2009 23:25

you are all so bloody amazing and generous people !!!!!! We are in the early stages at the moment and as soon as we have more news we may be in a position to know exactly which route to follow



Once again amazing



Thank you



ABAG and we are sure for and on behalf of many AGA Victims

Aga Buyers A G


Joined: 04/10/2007
Posts: 488

Message Posted:
11/12/2009 23:46

What can I say,



Only,



Thank you all so much, your kindness really means a lot, some of us can't understand where they are coming from, after 6 years of hell, this is what they now dish out to Aga Victims, gave Robb his Kimlik Card, allowed him to do anything he wanted, at our expense, now they along with Robb have taken our money and abandon us, what corruption within!!



Pat

ABAG

sporty


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 685

Message Posted:
12/12/2009 03:28

I feel so sorry for these people,but after 6yrs or so to have your say in a court?i'd be on the next plane,this is your chance to set the record straight whatever date it is! Good luck to you all.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
12/12/2009 06:25

joandjelly, so what is your opinion about the action of the court now that you do know the background of the case? Do you agree that it is inhuman?

Secrectcove


Joined: 06/12/2009
Posts: 59

Message Posted:
12/12/2009 06:50

There are some French journalists on the island doing a report on human rights in trnc , this could be one for them .

Aga Buyers A G


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Posts: 488

Message Posted:
12/12/2009 09:38

Secrectcove



Any chance of passing details to them or theirs to us ? We have appointmwnt with a journo at lunchtime today albeit by phone, but we are still aaaiting confirmation of how many this will affect



ABAG

Aga Buyers A G


Joined: 04/10/2007
Posts: 488

Message Posted:
12/12/2009 12:21

Any AGA Victims reading Cyp 44 , please try to make contact with your lawyer if you have a case outstanding against Gary Robb or AGA Developments -



ABAG

graycoul


Joined: 23/04/2009
Posts: 493

Message Posted:
12/12/2009 13:07

5 years now about time the goverment sorted this, its doing no good for them

and 240 familys that have lost there life savings.....

kaiserphil


Joined: 14/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
12/12/2009 18:57

This strikes me as a convenient way to get rid of the Aga victims without actually doing anything to improve their situation. Wonder if that is the true intention? An old cynic? Me?

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
12/12/2009 19:30

I think we should all spread the word. How about joining http://www.sagazone.co.uk and put it on the forums or start a blog?

Aga Buyers A G


Joined: 04/10/2007
Posts: 488

Message Posted:
12/12/2009 20:14

HECTOR



YES EVERYONE PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD - WE ARE BEGINNING TO WONDER IF ALL CASES NOT JUST AGA WILL GO IN THIS FASHION - SURE SEEMS LIKE AN EASY EAY OUT FOR THEM



ABAG

elkiton



Joined: 15/03/2009
Posts: 514

Message Posted:
12/12/2009 22:23

I support message #4 in their comments. Last year my case against the builder was due to come up before the court in December, sometime, and my lawyer advised me to standby to come at a couple of days notice if we secured a court date. I don't see why an ex-pat should expect the luxury of the legal system in a foreign country accommodating my holidays and personal arrangements, get real please.

Also on a personal note, I consider it would have been totally stupid of me not to have come and represented myself in the case to the judge, in person. This is not the sort of thing you "fire and forget", a case needs managing and that is the individuals responsibility alone.

And as for the message title, "The legal system etc etc... I consider that to be Inflammatory and totally unnecessary in this environment, it's just not the way you want it to be.

TonyE

Aga Buyers A G


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Message Posted:
12/12/2009 23:10

Tony E (elkiton) message 24, you should try to put yourself in some Aga Victims position having lost my husband through all the Aga rubbish, now many Aga Victims are very ill, both mentally & physically and I'm sure Tony E is a very strong man, The email that is posted on the blog is from a lady whose husband has recently suffered serious illness and is unable to fly., She has been given 12 days to get him to the TRNC to appear to court - not possible due to his health, also how will the airlines accomodate what could be over 50 families wanting to arrive in the TRNC so close to Xmas for court cases week beginning 22 Dec. To date this is the ONLY email that has been received - we dont know if more will be sent - but 22 Dec gets closer. Todate there are 5 deats on Stansted - Ercan 20th Dec - not enough Tony - any suggestions. Its not just 1 person it could be up to 200 !!!

Aga Buyers A G


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Posts: 488

Message Posted:
12/12/2009 23:13

and on a very personal note, this is the first Christmas without my husband and 6 years since our life savings went missing, and it is extremely difficult, but what is even more difficult to understand is why it has taken 6 years (for me) and until the 12th December 2009 from October 2003 to be told we may have to be there on the the week beginning 22th December, this Tin Pot Government/Legal System is very clever, they want to wash their very dirty hands as quietly as possible. You consider this to be Inflammatory - TonyE "you ain't seen nothing yet !"



Pat

ABAG



& Suz Input also

xxxxxx

Hector


Joined: 26/08/2008
Posts: 2352

Message Posted:
13/12/2009 00:47

A court in the Uk (& in most other countries I think) would give sufficient notice to all the parties of the trial date and ask for dates to avoid well in advance. No way would a court give less than a months notice. In these cases the process has been going on for years, why the sudden urgency?



How many times have I read on this forum of people who have finally got a judgement having had to turn up at court many many times only for the case to be adjourned because the defendent hasn't turned up or other such reason?