buying close to army base

mountbatten


Joined: 12/04/2008
Posts: 102

Message Posted:
25/05/2008 21:14

Could someone please give any advice on buying close to a army base,i have heard that it would be hard to get permission to buy

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
25/05/2008 21:22

Its a real no no..........unless you want to throw money down the drain. Speak to HBPG.

mountbatten


Joined: 12/04/2008
Posts: 102

Message Posted:
26/05/2008 11:26

So if you have no chance of permission to buy near the army,what guarantee have you got when buying anywhere

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
26/05/2008 11:35

Hi mountbatten,



None.......You have to wait half a lifetime to find out!



wynyardman

rosie123


Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
26/05/2008 12:19

Hello Wyn,i am now asking myself is it all worth it,i think i would end up being a bag of nerves,wondering will i get permission to buy,will the talks be in the souths favour,plus all the other bits you read,i am in no doubt there are also good bits,but it does seem a lot to put yourself through

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
26/05/2008 12:28

hi guys

this law has been in force and implemented from turkish mainland property law that no foreign buyes can purchase near a army base, most good developers will have a thing called a haritta plan which shows the whole plan of the development aswell as its surrondings and this will show you if their is any bases located in the vicinty

most reputable developers will never build new projects near to a army base because they know that most of their sales are to foreigners, your best rule of thumb is when cosidering buying look around to see if their are any other foreign people living in the area and ask them if they have their ruhsat and kocan (licence to live and deeds) if they have then you will have no problem in that area

hope this helps

ukturk

Littlenige



Joined: 24/12/2006
Posts: 3594

Message Posted:
26/05/2008 12:46

" Could someone please give any advice on buying close to a army base,i have heard that it would be hard to get permission to buy "





DON'T

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
26/05/2008 12:46

Hi rosie123,



It is the system in the TRNC and it seems to work OK in most cases. Remember we are the guests! ukturk has explained the basis.



We bought almost 2 years ago. We should have taken posession in March 08. We seem to be still 6 months off. Even with all the builder delays we still have no sign of our PTP.



Guess its the way of life in The TRNC, but it is still a beautiful country, populated by very nice

(in most cases) friendly peoples.



We paid our money and made our choice!



wyn

rosie123


Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
26/05/2008 13:36

Hello Wyn,so god forbid,if you were not granted ptp,would that mean you have lost your money,can people not get ptp and then pay

Rosie

mountbatten


Joined: 12/04/2008
Posts: 102

Message Posted:
26/05/2008 13:58

Ukturk,there are other english people living there,in fact the first house we went to look at was owned by a english man who died,we were sent there by Ian Smith estate agents,but never got to see the property,it has since been bought by a english couple,i have been in touch with ian smith and the hbpg,ian smith said no problem as long as it is 400 metres from the army security zone,hbpg have informed me that the law states that the estate agent must do a search on where the property is as regards the army base and permission to buy,i was very impressed with hbpg

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
26/05/2008 15:38

rosie123,



I suppose, I would have to sell it on!



That is the way things are over there. I have never considered it to be a real problem!



Eternally optomistic!



wyn

ukturk



Joined: 01/09/2007
Posts: 1974

Message Posted:
26/05/2008 15:59

hi mountbatten

thats good as long as these people have got their deeds then this means they have passed the army search so 100% if you buy a property on the same block you will not be refused, yes its true the search is carried out by the agent on behalf of the customer, im not sure about the exact meter it has to be away from the base but like i said its better to be safe than sorry and not buy a place anywhere close to a army base just for peace of mind



wyn you should not worry as long as you have bought a place where there are other foreign people you wont have a problem but my two best sentances that describe cyprus is 'never say never' and 'always expect the unexpected' take them onboard and nothing will ever shock or surprise you!!!! LOL

regards

ukturk

rosie123


Joined: 26/05/2008
Posts: 70

Message Posted:
26/05/2008 16:20

Wyn,we were led too believe by someone on this forum (with the best of intentions )that if you do not get your permission too buy,that the deeds stay with the seller,and it will not be yours to sell on.

Rosie

rtddci


Joined: 29/12/2007
Posts: 842

Message Posted:
26/05/2008 18:55

I have fallen foul of the too near an army base rule and been refused permission to purchase. It means that i will not pay my final instalment to the builder nor (at present anyway) will I pay final purchase taxes to the government. To say that I feel racially discriminated against by the TRNC government is an understatement. I wonder how many of them have UK passports and would like to be treated in the same way in the UK?

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
26/05/2008 19:47

Rosie, you can sell it on. Indeed that is what most people have to do if they don't get PTP.The other alternative is to try to get PTP in a family members name but from what I have heard all this does is delays the process because the reason for refusal will remain the same. But you don't have the legal title deeds so as far as TRNC legal system is concerned you don't officially own it. The builders name will still be on the the title deeds. It is all to do with the law stating that you should have PTP before agreeing to purchase.

Hope this explains. Rtddci has experienced this so would be the best person to answer your concerns. Martin what are your options now?



Sue

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
26/05/2008 21:45

rosie123,



If you have registered your property with the DLO (after paying your stamp duty, your interest

is noted on the deeds.) This means that the builder cannot do anything with that property.

The builder cannot mortgage, pledge or place any encumberance on those deeds. This provides security to you why you try to sell on.



Hopes this helps.



wyn

rtddci


Joined: 29/12/2007
Posts: 842

Message Posted:
26/05/2008 21:51

Sue

Wyn is quite right re registering the contract. One of the positive moves by the TRNC to assist non TC buyers for which I'm grateful. One ends up in a limbo land basically. Yes I could sell on but only to a TC who doesn't need PTP. I will sit tight basically as I like my apartment and I feel very safe being so close to an army camp! Also reinforces what a complete farce the PTP process is.

Martin

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
26/05/2008 22:12

How did Gary Robb get his permission to purchase?

rtddci


Joined: 29/12/2007
Posts: 842

Message Posted:
26/05/2008 22:24

and his residents permit?

mountbatten


Joined: 12/04/2008
Posts: 102

Message Posted:
27/05/2008 11:52

my post 19 states 400 metres,it should state 500 metres

McSteviet



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1089

Message Posted:
27/05/2008 14:24

Mountbatten,



Is that as the crow flys to the perimeter fence?



MC

mountbatten


Joined: 12/04/2008
Posts: 102

Message Posted:
27/05/2008 16:53

Hello,mcsteviet,i presume so,no doubt if it suits them it will be 600 metres next week and no pine trees under 6 inches,i have no problem with there rules,i can understand the reasons behind it as regards security,it would just be nice to be told yes or no as regards permission to buy in say weeks,rather then two years,the other thing that seems odd,no matter where you go there seems to be a military presence,i am getting tired of it all now,i get no response from my advocate,the emails were flowing before i parted with my £1400,now that it has been paid,nothing .

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
27/05/2008 19:02

Mountbatten who is your advocate?

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
27/05/2008 19:39

Mcsteviot,



Strange question!

I have never seen crows in NC. The way they treat wild life, presumably they would get shot!



wyn

Linus


Joined: 04/05/2008
Posts: 281

Message Posted:
27/05/2008 19:47

It has been pointed out that if you can't get your PTP you can still sell the property. Am I missing something here? If it becomes common knowledge that the government is not issuing PTP to buyers on a particular development then who would want to buy it as they to would be redused PTP

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
27/05/2008 19:57

Linus,



NC residents ( or family or friends) or, you can rent it to anyone. (spies included)



Crazy!



wyn

Linus


Joined: 04/05/2008
Posts: 281

Message Posted:
27/05/2008 20:01

Wyn



Understand now . Thanks. Like you say it is crazy



Linus

mountbatten


Joined: 12/04/2008
Posts: 102

Message Posted:
27/05/2008 20:42

Hello Bradus,Peyman Erginel,that came from the recommendation site of lawyers on the Britsh High Commissioner list

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
27/05/2008 21:38

The trouble would be that if you could only sell to a Turkish Cypriot, they may well not be prepared to pay the same as foreign buyers. Wages are low in TRNC so most of the prices are outside the range of the Turkish population. Except for the wagesof the builders, estate agents and advocates..... but they will most likely have built their own des res.