What do you believe the outcome of the current Cyprus Talks will be?

malsancak


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Message Posted:
16/12/2009 13:41

"With the current Cyprus Talks expected to come to a close in early 2010 and with hopes that there will be a referendum on proposals agreed by the two leaders, NCFP would like your opinion on the outcome:"

Complete the Poll at http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com/2009/12/16/what-do-you-believe-the-outcome-will-be-of-the-current-cyprus-talks/

StGeorgeI


Joined: 27/08/2009
Posts: 973

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 13:46

I've voted - looks like an interesting poll this and I am intrigued to see the final results.

malsancak


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Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 16:05

I was thinking of repeating it again in 3 months time to see what the difference will be, if any.

negativenick


Joined: 10/11/2008
Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 16:09

Deadlock - as ever - TRNC can't bring anythng to the party that the South want/need...

malsancak


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Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 16:25

at the moment, with only 20 people voting, the majority believe a referendum will fail and Turkey will push for north Cyprus to be recognised internationally.

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 16:58

msg 4



nn tell everyone what you believe the greek cypriots want or need from us turkish cypriots ,



or maybe you think it all depends on the gc,s and they call all the shots,well that may of been the case

as we saw in the annan plan in 2004 ,when we were willing to give back more then we should of done

and even that was not enough for the greeks ,THEY WANT IT ALL ,,,so when you say the kktc cannot

bring anything to the party that the south want or need ,is more TOSH from you.



mal

there has only ever been one outcome ,the day the talks began they ended ,after all it takes two

to tango ,a little give and take ,something the gc,s will not do ,not now ,not ever.



the outcome of these talks will end up in the history books like the others as just another failure .

the kktc will keep going till someday ,and make no mistake will be internationally recognized .



musin



long live the kktc

negativenick


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Posts: 6023

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 17:02

musin - the TRNC needs the south more than the south needs the TRNC....

malsancak


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Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 17:05

some GCs are saying they will vote yes, whatever the plan is, because they believe this is the last chance for a settlement. I believe the TCs will not be as positive as in 2004 because they believe the north will gain international recognition if the referendum fails.

Seamus


Joined: 17/03/2008
Posts: 28

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 18:12

Having had a recent conversation with my friend Professor Nilgun Sarp - Its going to be long and uphill slog ( my interpretation )



Just think of the dramatic rise in living if it does happen -( Being Irish I should know!!)

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 18:18

Mal think Turkey will go all the way whatever it costs them to ensure the embargos are lifted and that trade will take place netween the member states. Then they will open thier ports.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 19:54

msg7



TRNC never needed the south and never will.It is in our blood (a thing most of you would know nothing about)



In fact,if you all got yourselves something to do,you'd live the things alone that are none of you lots concern.

But,than again,that might be something that is in your blood.(s**t steiring)



Have a nice day and enjoy your stay!!

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 20:58

msg 7



nick you make these bold statements about the tc,s and the north ,if you are going to make

them ,then please have the decency to explain,,,,,,,,the trnc needs the south more than the

south needs the trnc,,,,,,,,, what does that mean and when has the tc,s ever needed the gc,s

more,s the point what has the gc,s ever done for us.



let me tell you my friend ,we don,t need them and each passing year we need them less,let

them get their own house in order and not worry about us .



if they had their own way ,the british would go first followed by the mainlanders and everyone

in between including us tc,s.



have you not seen the writing on the wall ............cyprus is greek........... YEAH RIGHT.



we do not need the south in exactly the same way the south does not need us.



musin



long live the kktc

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 20:59

yorgozlu, we live here and without a vote all we can do is TALK about the things that will affect us. If you don't like us immigrants, why not just say so.

MUSIN M


Joined: 26/06/2008
Posts: 1352

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 21:11

mal



i think you misunderstood yorgouzlu ,i believe he is annoyed at the fact that people repeatedly

say that the tc,s need the gc,s and this is so not the case .



we have never needed the gc,s and when people repeat this time and time again it pisses you off

maybe we should start a new thread titled ,,,,what the gc,s did for the tc,s and see .



musin



long live the kktc

tattlad


Joined: 13/12/2008
Posts: 479

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 23:02

Yorgozlu, please dont tar all us Brits with the same brush, NN is definitley talking out of his Ar*e there, even I can see that Turkish Cyprus has never needed the GC's and never ever will, and I for one admire that fact, the fact that KKTC have never let sanctions led by the GC's bother them, and eventually the rest of the world will wake up and see the fiasco for what it really is.

andre 514


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Posts: 1163

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 23:10

it never ceases to amaze me how non-cypriots

try to claim they understand the feelings of the two communities

...and I'd include myself in that!



far better to listen to what they say instead:

"turkey will never give up its security guarantee" on the one hand

"we speak for the whole island" on the other hand



and guys...and guyesses:

are there talks really taking place?

yes there has been a pattern of high level meetings for the last sixteen months it is true

but there seems to have been little or no convergence on anything really important



and would you believe some on the forum even call this "negociations"?



wishful thinking, surely

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 23:21

I think both just want to go into the history books. Turkey and the TRNC will decide the outcome. We all have wishful thinking about what we would like. We know we are guests here even though many made this thier adopted home. To have a buisness or home here is getting hard as the TRNC want so much from you. If it was in the EU it may be easier. The two leaders try to do what. It is way beyond them. Turkey or the UN wil see to that. The UN said April next year. Turkey have to 21st Dec to conform to the sanctions imposed by the 27 states. Most of all they have but will not give up on the cyprus problem. Or indeed open thier ports until the 27 trade with us. Proud nation and they can afford to be. So I think its out of these 2s hands xxx

malsancak


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Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
17/12/2009 15:07

I don't believe that TCs need GCs, without them they've had relative peace for 25 years.

aripointer


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Posts: 189

Message Posted:
17/12/2009 15:34

Lilli



In the UK/EU there is too much red tape in your business. AP

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
17/12/2009 15:41

aripointer, I didn't think that it was all that easy to set up a business here. In the UK it takes very little for a resident there to set up the business although I agree that actually running it is a different matter

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
17/12/2009 23:32

msg 13;

malsancak;

"we live here and without a vote all we can do is TALK"



I rest my case.



"If you dont like immigrants,why not just say so."



You dont just "s**t steir" but also "talk s**t".Remember,I lived in another country for 20+years(UK).Bear that in mind next time.

There was only one answer for me if I ever complained about anything to do with UK..........and that was.....if you dont like it ,you can nuffing eff off to where you come from!!!



You can also bear that in mind before you open your *** to me .The world is one big circle,the point it starts is where it also ends up.(what goes round comes round)You thought me that saying.





Enjoy your stay,have nice time,and remember,2 is couple but 3 is crowd.But,got to give it to you,at least you had the b**ls to answer,unlike???



tattlad;

No offence was meant to you,or the likes of you and you should know that.

palacerclass


Joined: 19/11/2008
Posts: 109

Message Posted:
18/12/2009 01:10

Im trying to contact Pauline in respect of winning the court case.Please can you send me her email address.

My email address is mark@marsene.fsnet.co.uk . Thank you mark.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
18/12/2009 09:33

yorgozlu, thank you for that frank reply. I think you'll find that there was not only one answer if you didn't like what was happening in the UK, you could vote. It was the racists in the UK who were telling you to get back to where you came from and they are nasty people.