The Forgotten Fourth Fortress

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 20:54

"My map shows the location of the Forgotten Fourth Fortress, which was probably built as a watch tower..."

Read more at http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com/2009/12/16/the-forgotten-fourth-fortress/

Jetski


Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 584

Message Posted:
16/12/2009 23:23

Hans - a track seems to exist on the Kitchener map between Kozankoy (Larnaca ti Lapithou) and the 'fortress' - or am I mistaken?



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carollynne


Joined: 19/11/2009
Posts: 128

Message Posted:
17/12/2009 07:36

Really enjoyed reading that, thank you, I thought the only castle we hadn't "done" was Buffavento (which is on our list when the weather gets better)



Carollynne

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
18/12/2009 10:41

RE msg 2, Jetski: (...) Hans - a track seems to exist on the Kitchener map between Kozankoy (Larnaca ti Lapithou) and the 'fortress' - or am I mistaken? (...)

=> Sorry for my late reply - yesterday I had no Internet connection. Your remark gave me reason to study the Kitchener map again. In one way you are right: there seems to be (or: seems to have existed) a path leading to the fortress. I.e. to the area where the fortress is located. BUT! In this case there is a reason to doubt the accuracy of Mr. Kitchener and his assistants (around 1880). He (they) never found the fortress. It's not on his map, at least not on my copy of the original map. The location of the fortress may have been added to K's map later, but I have not yet found proof of it. Only the British architect George Jeffery (1918) vaguely mentions "a fortress", but he mistakenly locates it in the mountains near Karaman (Karmi). He cannot have been near or in the fortress!

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
18/12/2009 10:44

Continued from msg 4: Jetski, do you have a copy of Lord Kitchener's map WITH the "Forgotten Fourth Fortress" in the right location? If so, I'd love to see it!

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
18/12/2009 11:19

RE msg 3, carollynne: (...) Really enjoyed reading that, thank you, I thought the only castle we hadn't "done" was Buffavento (which is on our list when the weather gets better) (...)

=> Carollynne, you should put more castles on your list of "to do castles"! Gastria castle (an old Templars fortification with a violent and interesting history), Sigouris Castle (one of the many spellings in medieval documentation) and there's more... The remains of fortified houses (only the Lusignan kings had the right to own castles - the nobles were only allowed fortified houses. The kings didn't trust their servants one little bit!)... Anyway, you gave me a good idea: I'll write an illustrated lecture for the "Medieval Cyprus Fellowship" about lesser known (remains of) castles and fortified houses and the noble families who lived there for centuries.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
18/12/2009 11:57

For carollynne (and others if interested): More about Gastria Castle: http://www.allcrusades.com/CASTLES_COUNTRIES/castles_cyprus_overview-3.html

More about Sigouri(s) Castle: http://www.allcrusades.com/CASTLES_COUNTRIES/castles_cyprus_overview-3a.html

carollynne


Joined: 19/11/2009
Posts: 128

Message Posted:
18/12/2009 14:22

Thank you very much, better get in training for the spring ;-)



Carollynne

carollynne


Joined: 19/11/2009
Posts: 128

Message Posted:
18/12/2009 14:44

Forgot to say Hans, great website, thanks again. Don't have to go too far to visit the village of Kiti as I live there lol