Interesting article on Cyprus in Economist

katyhomeopath


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Message Posted:
19/12/2009 10:22

http://www.economist.com/world/europe/displayStory.cfm?story_id=15065921

girne 29


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Message Posted:
19/12/2009 14:19

katyhomeopath

thanks for that very interesting and analytical article.

elko2



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Message Posted:
19/12/2009 14:25

Good analysis.

ismet

flightholiday


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Message Posted:
19/12/2009 14:49

Ismet - I second your view on it.

laptarunner



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Message Posted:
19/12/2009 16:18

Very informative.

petez


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Message Posted:
19/12/2009 16:23

thanks for the link...

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
19/12/2009 16:25

I think the last paragraph says it all;



If these talks fail, another chance is unlikely to arise for years. Turkey’s EU hopes would be crushed. And Europe’s aspirations for a bigger role in the world would be dented: if it cannot solve a dispute in its own back yard, how can it do much elsewhere? The stakes in Cyprus in the next few weeks could hardly be higher.

winslow


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Message Posted:
19/12/2009 20:05

İ am sorry to say a lot of this article and others that are being written in the same vain recently are quite patronising to both sides. There seems to be only one alternative being pushed forward you must all reach agreement and all join the EU and live happilly ever after all and all with this undertone of blackmail. That if there is no agreement the four horseman of the apocalypse are going to ride in as in revelations destroy us all and take over. This is a foriegn perspective and unrelatable to the present consensus of the people on both sides as recents polls are showing. İ respect some of the arguments put forward and there are benefits. But we are two peoples and no matter however you try to gloss it over we cannot reside together. Two men from the same political background ‘do not a nation make’. There are alternatives there is not just this one way, one measure just this one final chance? Why are they not considering what the people want.

winslow


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Message Posted:
19/12/2009 20:06

con..

When people on this side voted against Talats government there was reason it was not just economics. There was a reason we voted 'hardline nationalists', and went right wing and that was simply that not everybody desires reunification and not everybody feels or cares about this sense of urgency on both sides and the Annan plan is still a sore point for both sides.

Other alternatives and views should be disucssed more openly within this context more publically. İ know im not the only one and it is not acceptable to portray those opposing it to be made out to be fighting democracy. True democracy is the will and desire of the majority of the people and not the desire of the few who want their aspirations to succeed for there own political and personal goals. The facts are simple and don’t need to be complicated any further thats how these problems started in the first place.

Moover321


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Message Posted:
19/12/2009 21:11

Good article though the comments by readers are just as illuminating (worth a read) - and probably closer to the realities on the ground!



The quibble I have with the Economist is their 'assumption' that in another referanda the TC would again vote "Yes"!



Somehow the memory of being 'shafted' by the EU in 2004 is still sharp and even with the economic decline I would not bet that the TC would necessarily vote 'Yes'



Once bitten, twice shy...?

pilgrim



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Message Posted:
19/12/2009 21:44

good article and good balanced responces, enjoyed reading thanks guys

Lilli



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Message Posted:
19/12/2009 21:53

Winslow you are so right in my opinion. Ireland springs to mind and God knows I lived through that. Its time to give peope what they want but Im told here by people in the know the talks are a formality its out of thier hands. This is for history the UN and other forces will forces thier hands. I know Turkey really do not want to give up on TRNC and are proud enough to walk away if they have to. They will not be blackmailed into any situation as they are strong enough to stand alone xx