Nollaig shona duit agus Athbhliain faoi mhaise duit

Ailletoo


Joined: 24/01/2009
Posts: 1003

Message Posted:
24/12/2009 09:31

Nollaig shona duit agus Athbhliain faoi mhaise duit



Happy Christmas and a Prosperous New Year to you all... In Gailge.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
24/12/2009 09:41

Serious question: can people who speak "Gailge" (I thought it was "Gaelic"?) understand each other whether they are from Scotland, Republic of Ireland, Wales (and some parts of western France?)? Are there different accents in "Gailge"? Is the language taught at schools? Or is it a dying language?

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
24/12/2009 13:33

I understand that the 'Gaelic' language has various 'sub-families' that are spoken by the Irish,Scottish,Welsh and French.

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
24/12/2009 13:36

And Cornish (Not anymore)

johndp


Joined: 08/09/2009
Posts: 497

Message Posted:
24/12/2009 16:32

GHURRA MILE MATHA GUT

Brinsley


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 6858

Message Posted:
24/12/2009 16:36

In Cornwall, whether dialect, accent, or another language they need a good dose of RP as the inhabitants are totally incomprehensible!



Richard

Happy Hussar


Joined: 01/10/2008
Posts: 318

Message Posted:
24/12/2009 17:08

The 'not very' Christian Brothers spent near on ten years trying to beat Gaelic into me, without success! however I still remember the 'mucky bits'.

Now finding Turkche very difficult to pick up.



Mutlu Yillar

Tony

dublinderm


Joined: 26/09/2009
Posts: 538

Message Posted:
24/12/2009 17:11

The language Gaelige is spoken by about 30% of the population of Ireland.



The language is taught in all schools from the age of four (even to Polish, Lithuanian, and Nigerian kids) up to school leaving age of 18. About 10% of schools are "Gael Scoileanna" where everything is taught through Gaelige or Irish. All road signs are dual Irish/English except in areas known as "Gaeltacht" where only Gaelige is spoken or used in signage.



Most speakers of Irish (Gaelige) or Scots (Gallic) can make themselves understood to the other tradition, but Welsh (my mother's home language) is completely different.



English is almost universally spoken (800 years of occupation!) in all parts of ireland.



Nollaig Shona

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
24/12/2009 17:14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtccG--7muw





I see what you mean Brinsley,

Paul.

cyprusjoker


Joined: 29/08/2009
Posts: 1107

Message Posted:
24/12/2009 18:03

And i always thought gaelic was something lesbians did, you learn something everyday..

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
24/12/2009 18:53

My son goes to a Gaelic school just outside Glasgow where we stay and at the age of 10 is fluent in it. He only started learning English as a foreign language at 8 ( spelling/grammar ) and has now reached the same level recently of a child his age who has been learning only English from the age of 5. In the last 6 months they have started learning German and when he goes to the High school in 2 years time he will start learning French as well.



The reason the Scottish Government has been putting extra resources into Gaelic education is because they discovered by accident that children who had gone through the Gaelic education system were on the whole able to learn other languages much easier and successfully than their counterparts in the mainstream English education system. Scotland has an appalling record when it comes to other languages, hopefully this will change as 1,000s of children come through the Gaelic education system proficient in other languages.

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
24/12/2009 19:22

RE msg 11, karakum5c: How interesting! I wish your son much success learning foreign languages! He'll never be sorry - it's a big (cultural and commercial) advantage in later life.

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
25/12/2009 11:38

Nollaig Chridheil agus Bliadhna Mhath Ur! Merry Christmas and Good New Year! Scots Gaelic

Interesting Karakum. I have been learning Scots Gaelic for several years and I hear that Glasgow

school is the best in the city (from a non Gael). Every year I go to Saobhal Mor Ostaig, the Gaelic

college in Skye and it is amazing how many folk from other countries, Germany, Ireland and England

you meet there. There are said to be more people learning now than native speakers. I also sing

in a Gaelic choir and we have been quite successful at the National Mods last few years. (Sorry can't

do accents on this computer) We can understand Irish as it is from the same root, and there are

people in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, who also still speak it. We had a Dutch girl in our choir too, who

speaks several languages, and sang in Gaelic too.

mrcyprus


Joined: 26/06/2009
Posts: 270

Message Posted:
25/12/2009 11:49

He meant 'Gaeilge' which is Gaelic in the Irish Language...

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
25/12/2009 11:50

RE msg 13, phylray: Thank you for your answer! Another question: are there also news papers in Gaelic? Are books written and published in Gaelic today? I find it fascinating that such an old language not only survived but seems to have a revival also!

mrcyprus


Joined: 26/06/2009
Posts: 270

Message Posted:
25/12/2009 12:05

They do still publish papers in Gaelic, although not as popular nowadays.



Alot of the newspapers that are written in English, include a pullout newspaper written in Gaelic.



'Nuacht24' is a big online and printed newspaper; Their website.. http://andrumamornuacht.blogspot.com/

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
28/12/2009 02:01

There are many books published in Gaelic today, both for children and adults, and translations

of books in other languages. As Mrcyprus says newspapers, e.g. The Scotsman, which is Edinburgh

based, carries a full page of Gaelic on Sat. (which is why I get it then, and also for the excellent sudokus

and crosswords) There are also magazines, and if you see the new passports they have the front page

in the 3 languages of U.K English, Welsh and Gaelic. There is also Redio nan Gael (Gaelic programmes

which are broadcast daily) and of course, BBC Alba t.v. channel.

cyprusjoker


Joined: 29/08/2009
Posts: 1107

Message Posted:
28/12/2009 07:38

If the whole world spoke one language how much easier would life be, weather it be gaelic or whatever.!

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
28/12/2009 13:00

Yes, but we are so lucky that English has become the most International language so that

many people learn it. It would be a bit boring though, and the more languages you study

you realise they are all connected in some way. (Not that I'm any expert!)

Snaefell



Joined: 07/06/2009
Posts: 266

Message Posted:
28/12/2009 14:06

Nollick Ghennal as Blein Vie Noa



Merry Christmas and HappyNew Year - in Manx Gaelic. The Manx language is spoken as well as English in the Isle of Man. There is a Manx school on the island, all lessons are taught totally in Manx with no English spoken at all.

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
28/12/2009 20:18

Interesting Snaefell, first time I have actually seen it.

dublinderm


Joined: 26/09/2009
Posts: 538

Message Posted:
29/12/2009 08:33

Re Msg 20



Hey Snaefell,



While standing on the hill of Howth just north of Dublin City for the first time in over forty years, I got a clear view of the tops of the mountains on the Isle of Man. On most clear days you can see the Welsh (Snowdonian) Mountains but a view of IOM is exceeding rare - it only took me 45 years!



I must say you were looking very good.



All the best,



Dermot