Disability Living Allowance

dopey


Joined: 02/11/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 20:38

Has anyone who has moved to Northern Cyprus been able to transfer their Disability Living Allowance which they received in UK

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 20:41

Please tell me that this is a wind-up!

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 20:46

I dont think it is somehow Jeannie.

Tx

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 20:48

Tara - no, I don't think it is either.



J

x

TheSaints



Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 1369

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 20:51

Just nip to the DHSS office in Girne and while you are there claim your mobility allowance and cold weather payment.....

satranc


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 20:51

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/disabledpeople/financialsupport/dg_10011731 Please see "Your Circumstances" at the bottom of this page................

everon


Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 956

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 21:08

my flaber is gasted x

dopey


Joined: 02/11/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 21:10

Hi



Sorry you think this is a wind-up, it is genuine, it was just that I read about transferring old age pensions to Cyprus I didn't know if other benefits were transferred as well

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 21:24

Probably transferrable if your Polish ,Albanian, Kosavon, or similar, But if you've been a good hard working legal taxpaying Brit,



Then you probably won't have much chance.

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 21:27

In a word. NO.

Going abroad to live or visit

If you are going to live abroad permanently you cannot usually get Disability Living Allowance.



If you move to another country in the European Economic Area (EEA) or Switzerland and you already receive Disability Living Allowance, you may continue to get it under certain circumstances.



If your visit abroad is temporary, you may continue to get Disability Living Allowance if:



your absence from Great Britain does not last more than 26 weeks (this includes going on holiday)

your absence is only to get medical treatment for a condition which began before leaving Great Britain



A big sigh of relief from all UK taxpayers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ballyboffin


Joined: 25/08/2007
Posts: 903

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 21:33

Hi dopey,



Sorry about the sarky comments that you have recieved by your question. I appreciate what you are saying but unless you have an address in the UK and live there for 6 months each year you will be disallowed which I do not think is fair at all.



One problem you would have is though, if you have lived outside the UK for 3 months you may not be entitled to NHS care if you return and need treatment.



Tread carefully.

lovingcyprus


Joined: 02/03/2007
Posts: 1272

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 22:30

You will probably be able to claim Job seekers allowance

Agnes


Joined: 11/04/2009
Posts: 81

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 22:39

If you can't or won't answer the question

It would be nice if you could keep your sarcastic comments to yourselves

This forum I thought was in place for information and to help each other

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 22:45

Ballyboffin. I am serious in what I have said.... A big sigh of relief from UK tax payers. 26 weeks is far too long IMO.



I am not sorry about the sarky comments that have been received by your question dopey. Have you researched the rules on DLA? Are you having a fooking laugh?



There are just too many scroungers on the UK economy and I for one, who has read the rules, by the UK government to stop our tax being utilised by people who dont deserve it, agree with them.



So now you know those rules abide by them and if you want to live in TRNC, dont scam the UK and their law abiding/tax paying citizens.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 23:00

Agnes - sorry we have offended you. But, for God's sake. Asking whether Disability Living Allowance was 'transferable' I thought, quite honestly, was a joke.



Obviously not.



And if you don't like sarcasm, you are on the wrong BB.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 23:00

Tara.. I have just been told I am holier than thou for writing something along the same lines on another thread,so put your flak jacket on girl and wait for the broadsides to follow..

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 23:02

Coachie I am ready.

Believe me I am ready. x

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 23:03

Dopey..At your age you should not be getting DLA anyhow,so why ask about it..

dopey


Joined: 02/11/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 23:41

I have got really upset about the remarks just asking a simple question, for a start I am not a scrounger I have worked hard all my life and never asked for handouts, my doctor has advised me to move to a warmer climate for medical reasons and I was told that in Southern Cyprus Disability Living Allowance was transferable, so it was a simple question if it was transferably in the North, and I have faced a lot of sarcasm, as for saying at my age I should not be receiving the benefit for a start you do not know my age, which incidentaly is 66.

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
30/12/2009 23:41

As far as I am aware you are not allowed to spend more than 4 weeks out of the UK and continue to claim DLA.

taraspring


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 571

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 00:05

I have printed the rules. You are allowed to stay out of the UK for 26 weeks.

Enjoy yourself.

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 00:07

You have however to inform the DWP if you intend to be out of the UK for more than 4 weeks.

satranc


Joined: 04/04/2009
Posts: 92

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 00:09

Hi Brenda, the link I sent you in Msg 6 gives detailed information on your legitimate question by clicking on "Disability Living Allowance -Your Circumstances" first of all and then clicking on "Taking Disability Benefits to other European Countries."



Although, the TRNC is not included in this list, you will see that under certain circumstances it is possible to transfer disability benefits from the UK to other warm climates including for example the RoC which is an EU member state.



You can discuss your particular circumstances with the "Exportability Team" at the DWP and there is a link to this team also further down th page which gives their contact details.



It's all there Brenda, just follow the links and you will get a definitive answer of what may be possible and whether, given your particular circumstances and National Insurance contributions record, you are eligible.



Good luck

dopey


Joined: 02/11/2009
Posts: 18

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 00:15

Hi Santranc



Thank you for that I will download it and find out what I can do.



Thanks again



Brenda

TheSaints



Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 1369

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 00:15

Hi Brenda



Sorry about the sarcasm it was meant to be light hearted and not intended to offend.

I hope you find the information you require.



Mike

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 00:22

You can bring your elderly parents from Pakistan or India for instance as soon as they arrive claim DLA on their behalf. Its a wonderful country we all live in.





Before anyone says you cant, i was involved in this process we all used to have a great laugh when yet another claimant walked through the door with their son or daughter not speaking a word of english and not having paid a peny in taxes without even a British passport.



If their claim was rejected it was almost always won on appeal.

Ossie


Joined: 19/01/2008
Posts: 311

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 03:11

The font of all knowledge ie Coachie has got it wrong,age has nothing to do with DLA. Reading his many comments over the passed year is enough to want us all to claim DLA.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 03:38

Please, please, tell me that I am hallucinating..............................please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Where the hell have I gone wrong?



Apart from some maternity benefit (which I got because I'd always paid "full stamp") I've never had a bloody ha'penny from the State.



So, who's the bloody mug then?



J

tonykyte


Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 270

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 10:04

Not sure if you are entitled to Incapacity Living Allowance but this is paid when you live in North Cyprus, not sure at what age this stops

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 10:50

I still pay a large amount of Tax and Vat to the UK system, and over the years have paid well over a million pound in VAT and taxes.



I am English (can I still say English) or is not politicly correct. But I am not entitle to NHS treatment, or other benefits if needed.



From another very hardworking british taxpayer.

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 11:13

If you apply for DLA before the age of 65 , then it carries on .

Simbas

loulouis


Joined: 13/12/2009
Posts: 234

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 11:27

Dopey your not that Dopey are you! DLa Dopeys lush allowance ! Peoples front never suprise me ! From an English taxpayer. I suggest if you cant afford to live in NC please stay at home.

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 11:41

JohhnyLee



You are allowed to say you are Scottish, Welsh or Irish but dont think you are allowed to say you are English anymore

Ballyboffin


Joined: 25/08/2007
Posts: 903

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 12:16

I really cannot believe the attitude that some of you have about dopey's question. tara, you seem to have a very strong opinion on this. Why shouldn't someone who has paid tax all their lives be allowed to spend 26 weeks out of the UK, after all what difference would it make whether they claimed ther allowance in the UK or elsewhere ? After all if the powers that be have decided that someone is entitled to benefits it shouldn't matter where they are. Think about the foreigners who work in the UK and can claim family allowance for their children who live in their own countries.



And anyway if someone decides to live abroad then they are not 'A Drain' on the NHS in the UK.

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 17:55

Ballyboffin you are soooooo right, if we live abroad we are far less of a drain on many things than if we lived in UK full time, simple example,



we can not run off to the doctors or casualty dept. for anything, we will not be using emergency services etc. for wich we have probably helped to pay for most of our lives. etc. etc.



If some one is genuinley on DLA or similar why shouldn,t they live out of the UK. The chances are that they will be healthier, so therefore not visiting Uk doctors etc.



Saves money (makes sense)



The real reason I would imagine is because big brother cannot watch us out here.

Agnes


Joined: 11/04/2009
Posts: 81

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 18:20

Well said msg 34 & 35

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 20:44

Ossie ..the font of all knowledge is not wrong.DLA ends when you reach 65 and are drawing the state pension.Mobility allowance carries on whatever age,but sometimes people get confused between DLA and Mobility Allowance.I was on DLA for short while but when I drew my pension it stopped.I asked why and was told "we do not pay both". My cousin who is totally disabled lost his DLA and his wife lost her carers allowance once they reached 65.



Simbas.. sorry.have to disagree with you on this one my dear...



Ballyboffin/Johnnylee..DLA means you are not able to work in this country and therefore you cannot pay taxeIt does not mean we have to subsidise your living in a foreign country.

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 21:30

Coachie this link says Simbas is correct - http://www.helptheaged.org.uk/en-gb/AdviceSupport/FinancialAdvice/HelpClaimingBenefits/Disability/as_disability_160106_2.htm



Cooper

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
31/12/2009 21:34

To all concerned in this discussion it appears that my answers were incorrect. You can apparently claim your DLA if you live permantently in an EEA country,but having looked on the DWP web site the list of countries where this applies does not mention either Turkey or TRNC,so I would think you would have to discuss this with DLA. It does say you can get all your DLA if you are only leaving for 26 weeks and are returning to the UK.I have sent ant E-Mil to the DWP aking for clarification ,so I will post their reply,should they reply to my request.In t6he meantime I apologise to all for my errors...It appears I was getting mixed up with Incapacity Benefit and DLA...

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
02/01/2010 19:17

Coachie I suggest you read my message 30 It's more likley that I am subsidising you.



Like I said I take nothing from the UK system. But have done and still do put an awful lot into it.



I employ several people and still pay Taxes and V.A.T.



No one as ver subsidised me in my life,



The term you use "Subsidising you living in a foriegn country" I detect a hint of sour grapes there, (terrible thing the green eyed monster)

TheSaints



Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 1369

Message Posted:
02/01/2010 21:24

JL



I too paid into the system for many years and took nothing at all out I am not entitled to NHS treatment or to a State Pension when I retire and I do not want or expect it, that was my choice when I decided to become an expat.



I do not think anyone living permenantly outside the UK should be able to get UK benefits paid to them except maybe the basic state pension minus the extras such as inclimate weather payments etc and that should only be paid if they moved after retirement.



Mike

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
02/01/2010 22:02

Jonnylee..Well if you live in the Uk and your business is here then you expect to pay taxes.No way have yuou subsidised me brother [paid my wack when I was working.I have no objections to you claiming anything as long as you hAVE A PERMANENT ADDRESS HERE IN THE uk.I am 15 yrs ahead of you as far as taxes are concernd and I doubt if you alone have paid the amount you have stated.Maybe your company has but you as an individual ,I doubt very much,unless you are a millionaire several times over.You are not alone when you say no one has subsidised you,there are thousands of others in the same category.People over their seem to think because they have paid a NI contribution and taxes for 45yrs it entitles them to every thing that is going.It may well do if you live here in the UK because you still pay taxes of some sort or another which goes to the upkeep of the NHS and NI pensions.Apart from their taxes on their pension they pay nothing else.Any taxes they pay support the TRNC economy..

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
02/01/2010 22:15

JohnnieLee..As for sour grapes you could not be farther from the truth.If iI was going to live in a foreign country I would make sure of several things before I went.The TRNC is not on my,I would like to live there list,to many problems with basic amenities,and the political,situation leaves a lot to be desired. There are people out there wondering whether they are going to have a home when they wake up in the morning. Dont have any of them problems here,so why should I be envious..



The Saints ..If as you say you paid into the system you will get a pension of msome sort based on how many payments you have maid...I believe if you were born before 1960 the number of yrs is reduced from 40yrs to 30yrs to qualify for a full pension...

chezzi


Joined: 12/03/2009
Posts: 162

Message Posted:
02/01/2010 22:29

Well I have to say I am really quite shocked at some of these comments, I wonder if everyone is "tarred" with the same brush here!



I would like to offer a different picture to all of you who have condemmed this question:



I have worked (hard) all my life and paid a LOT of TAX! but I also have a very disabled daughter (brain damage at birth) who gets the full DLA and everything else she is entitled too. This enables me to pay carers to look after her at home so that I can continue to work, pay my mortgage and give my other children a decent standard of "hopefully normal" living.

I would dearly LOVE to give up work and come and live in Cyprus, but becasuse of my daughter I cannot. Without her benefits, she will have no carers, her needs are 24/7, there are no facilities, ie day care places etc in Cyprus, there is no support system at all. I cannot even go and do a weekly shop with her on my own as I cannot push a trolly as well as a wheelchair! Without DLA I am trapped in the UK

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
02/01/2010 22:53

Chezzi..Get in touch with DWP on their website and you will find a link there where you can go to and discuss any thing that you want to do.I no our supermarkets have special trollies that fit on the front of wheelchairs,cant say I really saw any when I was in TRNC. Some of my comments were incorrect and I have apologised to all for them.I was confusing DLA with Incapacity Benefit.Your daughter will get her benefits for as long as need be.

Make sure you check out everything about any intended move to Cyprus.It is not always greener on the other side of the fence. Best of luck...

JohhnyLee


Joined: 25/04/2009
Posts: 2495

Message Posted:
04/01/2010 19:51

Coachie you doubt what I stated. As far as i am concerned my companys where started by me with my money, so any taxes etc. paid. I was paying. ( started with £1200 pounds in 84 and worked my b---s off. 15 hours a day was common place. at one time employed 75 people. Also had some sole traderships.

Unfotunatley I went down with a major heart viral infection, I was not expected to last that night, I was saved by my level of fitness at the time, (and diet)

If that hadn,t have hit me then yes I probably would have been a millionaire by now. ( but to me .Having my life means more than money.)

I was not well enough to run my Companys or deal with them any longer.

I still have major problems from that illness, I am medically entitled to various benefits, But because I choose to spend time in a more relaxed warmer climate, So I am not entitled,

But people can just arrive from god knows where and claim all sorts. Can you honestly tell me this stacks up.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
04/01/2010 22:44

Johhny lee..Like I said in one of my postings on this thread,I was mistaken about some deatils and I apologised to those concerned.If you employed 75 people then the taxes you mwere paying would have been in their names not yours,and the tax youpaid would be decided on what you paid yourself and what sort of profit you were taking out of the company,but never mind you paid your wack no doubt and if you were receiving DLA before you were 65 it appears that you can still be paid it if you live in an EEA country.This you have to discuss with DWP,but no doubt you are aware of these facts.Only EU citizens can arrive here and claim alsorts as you say,but a lot of these alsorts are paid because it is EU law not ours. There are over 460000 immigrants from nonEU countries who get next to nothing.A lot of these people from EU an non EU countries are going back from whence they came simply because they cannot afford to live here on the benefits they are getting.Lots of Polish people going home..