Wootton Bassett March

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 08:44

It's not going to happen - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/outrage-at-wootton-bassett-protest-1857756.html



Cooper

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 08:54

We shouldn't even be bringing our troops into Wootton Bassett, we should never have gone to war in the first place.

Baspinar Bob


Joined: 15/02/2008
Posts: 618

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 09:06

Common sense prevails, it's a pity it doesn't always on this forum.



Bob.

malsancak


Joined: 23/08/2009
Posts: 2874

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 09:10

Below is a good comment about how offensive islam4uk is but how protesting against the Afghan war is a valid act if done without insulting the dead. Apparently islam4uk's leader "is sending letters to the grieving families of fallen British soldiers, telling them he has "no sympathy whatsoever" for their plight, urging them instead to become Muslims to "save" themselves "from the hellfire". This group does not represent Islam, it is self-serving.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2010/jan/04/anjum-choudary-wootton-bassett

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 09:20

Lets hope that the families receiving the letters throw them in the bin and not resort to violence because make no mistake Anjem Choudary is trying to provoke.

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 11:17

Message 5,

Bang on, Choudary is just looking to muddy the waters to drum up support. Whether you believe the war to be right or wrong our boys just carry out their duty and risk their lives on a daily basis. Suprised Nick Griffin hasn't jumped on the bandwagon he wont be far away for sure.

sienna


Joined: 09/01/2009
Posts: 1627

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 11:53

Here here blackpoolfan it's just disgustingly disrespectful no matter how you look at it - Why we BRITS put up with all this crap from them all god knows !!! we bow down too much

TopTen


Joined: 15/04/2009
Posts: 1246

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 12:15

Totally agree with blackpoolfan the uk is sadly on the verge of civil unrest because there are too many people saying they have rights to march and disrespect Britains laws and its people. Any christian that dares to say anything about islamic way of life is threatened with all manner of retribution.

So the goverment should stand firm and say that anyone wishing to live in the uk should abide by the laws and respect the country they have chosen to live in if they are not prepared to do that then kick them out along whith all the bloody dogooders.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 16:46

topten ..Iwrote exactly the same on another thread,and low and behold the thread has gone,vanished into thin air.That is twice it has happened to me,must be the way I tell em...

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 18:46

Topten - they are not allowed to do that - there is the big book of EU rules that stops them governing for the country but makes them give freedom for all.



I had thought that civil unrest has been on the cards for the past 10 years, but now I think it will just slide on past, there are not enough people left in the UK (UK born people that is) who could cause unrest. I honestly think it has gone too far now and that the UK is just going to change into one huge multi-national city, split into sub divisions of race, creed and color that will eventually war against each other for the right to rule. Another forty years and it will all be over and done with - won't be there, will have snuffed it by then.

decanddyl


Joined: 17/01/2009
Posts: 792

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 20:56

Waddo, is that not a bit of an over statement"there are not enough people left in the UK (UK born people that is) who could cause unrest." What there is not enough of is people who really care what happens in their community and have the ostrich syndrome.

karakum5c



Joined: 18/03/2008
Posts: 1021

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 22:39

We should encourage as many of these nutters as we can to march there !



They should be allowed to march through the town straight to the airport !



Where they should be handcuffed, stripped of their British nationality and passport then put on a plane !



Lastly when the plane arrives over the tribal areas between Pakistan/Afghanistan they should be chucked out the plane---

----with a parachute attached of course, we are civilised unlike the Taliban they idolise !!!!!!

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 22:51

There was an article in the newspapers today referring to seven muslim protestors who appeared in court accused of screaming insults at soldiers during a homecoming parade. The men refused to stand for the judge claiming that it was ' a grave and cardinal sin to show anyone other than Allah respect'



A compromise was reached whereby the seven muslims would enter the court AFTER the judge had entered the court.



Why do we let these people get away with it? We show respect in their country, why can't they show respect in ours?

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 23:11

Sorry no 1

Have to take issue with your mess 13 last sentence, its not so many months ago that brits were running round naked at a mosque here - is that showing respect ??



Also dont know if you read the local Esentepe newspaper Jan issue its called Esentepm, theres an interesting article in it its highlighted on http://www.glencoecyprus.com north cyprus forum, you should read it, makes you think how many T/C are thinking like this now

decanddyl


Joined: 17/01/2009
Posts: 792

Message Posted:
05/01/2010 23:12

They should also have been charged with contempt of court.

I totally agree with message 13.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 00:31

andso do i. We have all been taught to respect that we are visitors with no rights what soever here. in uk they are automaically given our rights except we have to earn them. Why have they suddenly got more rights than any uk citizen who has worked all his or her s life. it seems unless we conform once we have given as lot of money, then we still have no rights. oh well it back to your villages here boys all be it in your hummers, they can plough a field We are out first opportunity we can xxxxxx

Lazy days


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 847

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 08:22

Theres a lot of people thinking the same now Liz

Geoff


Joined: 25/06/2008
Posts: 1370

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 09:58

I see on UK TV news this morning that the guy organising the anti-war march is on £25K a year benefits! That is £8K more take-home than a squaddie in Afgahnistan gets. Cream crackers!

Geoff

Famagusta

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 10:04

I heard that too Geoff. He also lives in a £350,000 house (allegedly). Somethings wrong somewhere.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 10:04

hi geoff happy new year to you both. this just beggers beleif doesnt it

TopTen


Joined: 15/04/2009
Posts: 1246

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 14:11

Msg 14 Lazydays

That is right what you have stated but most expats were and are dreadfully ashamed by these people we hope that TCs can appreciate that ,that is how most brits living here feel, disgusted at thier behaviour and want to distance ourselves from them.

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 14:26

All I can say is If i were in charge he would be on the first plane back to where his origins are. or have him charged with treason or something.A bullet in the head is to good for that bloke...No doubt i will be censured for my comments but i dont care...

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 15:03

Not from me you won't coachie.

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 16:13

very good point.



keith

minertor



Joined: 14/02/2009
Posts: 1238

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 16:43

msg 19, yeah, owned by a relative, aint life great in UK. It's people like Bakri and Choudary that will spoil it for the genuine asylum seekers.

I understand that they are coming soon. The genuine asylum seekers that is.



Tony

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 16:58

A lot of people slagged off the BNP not to long ago, it is situations such as these that makes them appealing to the voter. I for one am sick to death of all this crap as i fear i will become a minority in my own country. There is no way as a decent human being i could accept these twisted lunatics being allowed to walk through Britains streets to protest against our own soldiers that risk their life on a daily basis.

The question is simple how far does all this push you i.e. the immigrants, the proposed march, claiming all these benefits, and also the political correctness stuff.

Do we begin to hate muslims? and their beliefs ,do we become racist or do we ignore it and tolerate it..............

viper


Joined: 14/07/2008
Posts: 119

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 18:12

Msg 26



You are so right in your thinking and I have lots of pals that think the same .. I'm sick to the teeth of our politicians

pandering to these anarchist ba**:`ds that threaten the security of the UK,why some of the stupid politicians think 'Lions can lay down with sheep' God only knows!



Just a thought they should use bacon bits instead of grit for the roads in Wootton Bassett, that might help .........







viper

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 18:15

The trouble is - what can we do about it?



If you start talking about immigrants and Muslims you are branded a racist.

viper


Joined: 14/07/2008
Posts: 119

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 18:44

No 1



Think about this..

'The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office.'



That is why the UK in such a state.



viper

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 18:48

Viper. How true that is. What can we do about it? We need someone to lead us out of the wilderness and show us the way.

YeniTom


Joined: 29/12/2009
Posts: 198

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 20:33

To open the discussion a little. What would have happened if Choudary etc. had applied for permission to hold the demonstration and it had been given the ok?



It's not a thought I relish and I certainly would not agree with it but I wonder what the reaction of normal British people would have been.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 20:38

Nothing would have happened. The BNP would have probably tried to organise a protest which would have been blocked by the Police and the Government.

viper


Joined: 14/07/2008
Posts: 119

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 21:07

Yeni

I think most people(indigenous British) are nearly at breaking strain with the whole disregard of the government as to peoples worries,fears and the uncertainty as to the future of the country and this episode is another erroneous mistake they are making as to peoples feelings and is pathing the way towards a facist upsurge in the country.



viper

Coachie



Joined: 29/07/2008
Posts: 2135

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 21:20

Viper ..you are all missing the point ,NO political party will stand up and say what is needed to be said because they are frightened of loosing their seats in an election.It is and will remain the biggest vote catcher for these parties if they are seen to be "helpful" to them..BNP excluded...

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 21:27

You are right what you say Coachie. However I can see what Viper is saying and there's a lot of truth in his words. We need a government to stand up and be counted.

viper


Joined: 14/07/2008
Posts: 119

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 21:29

Exactly Coachie



I refer to my msg 29







viper

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 21:30

I can envisage the BNP winning more seats at the next election. Before anyone asks - No, I will not be voting for them but many more will.

cooper


Joined: 23/10/2007
Posts: 3386

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 21:30

We'll have a long wait then )

viper


Joined: 14/07/2008
Posts: 119

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 21:32

I have just noticed I have become a 2 star General......





Happy days





viper

viper


Joined: 14/07/2008
Posts: 119

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 21:38

No1



Now 'speak the truth and shame the devil'



I have a feeling you might be a closet BNP supporter....me thinks????







viper

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 21:42

Bill - message 37. I agree: I, like you, will NOT be voting BNP, but I can certainly see the way the wind is blowing and I think a lot of voters will go that way. In a sense, I can understand why - wrightly or wrongly.



J

Blackpoolfan


Joined: 03/12/2008
Posts: 1568

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 22:01

I will stand as an MP, my manifesto is simple,

1/ If you want to come here fine as long as you have a skill or are prepared to work and support yourself and the British economy



2/ Respect our British values as we would respect yours, adopt the culture that you live within.



3/ practise your religion fine but respect others.



4/ Ban all forms of political correctness



5/ Bring back national service



Finally if you don't like it then p**s off back to your own country as we don't want you anyway as you will just be a drain on our already dwindling resources.

YeniTom


Joined: 29/12/2009
Posts: 198

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 22:05

I asked the question (Msg 31) because I believe that things WILL get worse and nothing will happen. I increasingly become frustrated that we Brits sit back and complain about 'things' but we really do nothing.



Quite what we do, I don't know. If we have a beef about the Govt we only get a chance to air our views at elections. Local elections count for nothing and we have to endure a useless Govt for years before we can have a say during which time they have screwed things up too badly for any real change after.



A short while ago I was watching a TV programme in the Midlands. An interviwer asked a group of immigrants if they agreed with the Irag / Afghan war. They said definitely Not. When asked what political party they would vote for, the answer was overwhelmingly Labour.



I wonder why???



Perhaps it is now too late to do anything!!

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 22:32

jeannie Bill viper I agree with all of you. Will the normasl brits do anything other than moan about the system. Of course the gov want them in. Same as they want norhtern Ireland . they get the votes cos these people have it so good. Educated at our expense to milk us ans steal our country. We sit back and let them sadly. Why we have no choice xx

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 22:33

Viper. I do not support the BNP!



Blackpoolfan. Let me know what constituency you are going to stand in and I'll buy a house there so that I can vote for you.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 22:44

Message 41 - please read "rightly" for "wrightly".



Apologies.



Jean

No1Doyen


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Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 22:45

Jean. No problem, it's alwright. )

Dixie Normus


Joined: 22/02/2008
Posts: 820

Message Posted:
06/01/2010 23:04

Although the majority of Brits are a pacient and polite bunch their comes a point when enough is enough, politicians can no longer be relied upon to steer our country on a course which the majority see as right. Civil unrest and a backlash against islam in the UK is a going to be the result of goverment inaction. The threats are already being made, the powder is being primed and no doubt if Choudray is allowed to push the faces of the british into the dirt the touchpaper will be ignited. A vote for the far right may not be seen by many as suitable, but as a protest vote against the present incompetants, can only make future goverments listen to the voice of the people.



D.N