recomendations for red wine - north or south cyprus

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
07/01/2010 19:04

trying to find a nice wine that isnt too acidic north or south

scoobydoo


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Message Posted:
07/01/2010 19:15

We have moved away from the Turkish wines as we find them too acidic. We now are drinking wine from Argentina, chile, spain and south africa, some of which are cheaper or similar price to the Turkish.



Erdeners and Supreme seem to have the most range.

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
07/01/2010 19:19

is it used to wash down the scooby snacks x

Vidal


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Message Posted:
07/01/2010 19:26

You could try 'TRIVENTO' malbec.



My other half swears by it....well I think thats what he's doing..I cant understand him after e few!

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
07/01/2010 19:30

If you like Red Wine there's none better than an Italian Amarone.

scoobydoo


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Message Posted:
07/01/2010 19:30

I love my scooby snacks but enjoy the wine to follow even better!

measey


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Message Posted:
07/01/2010 19:42

cant go wrong with spainish.

skybluesam


Joined: 24/12/2008
Posts: 447

Message Posted:
07/01/2010 20:55

Try the Chilean Santa Carolina brand, can be purchased in bottles or 3ltr wine boxes, Very gluggable! and good value too.

Nick

lucienne


Joined: 29/01/2009
Posts: 129

Message Posted:
07/01/2010 20:56

Have you tried Yakut, it's a bit like Shiraz?

Lilli



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Message Posted:
07/01/2010 21:06

bill or barolo. we sell lots of your favourite xxx Its also Guidos apart from Petrus

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
07/01/2010 21:08

Liz I love Barolo as well.

vee123


Joined: 15/04/2008
Posts: 393

Message Posted:
07/01/2010 21:45

mmmm, thought you had given up drinking????

eastendjoker


Joined: 24/04/2008
Posts: 166

Message Posted:
07/01/2010 21:55

A good New Zealand pinot noir takes alot of beating, not cheap but worth every penny !

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
07/01/2010 22:06

For a cheap acceptable quaffing 'vin table' try the organic shop near the two main schools in Girne. 10Lt draught red from SA at just over 50TL.



Richard

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
07/01/2010 22:10

"mmmm, thought you had given up drinking????"



Who?

Lilli



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Message Posted:
07/01/2010 22:12

Richard I was always told the cheaper the wine the bigger the headache because of all the chemicals. I hate turkish wines with a passion. Im spoilt I know but how can thhey bring wine in from turkey , sell to supermarkets then onto customers at the low prices. It has to be bottled , packed and sent here. Its full of chemicals. I know the wine you are talking about we used to sell it on draught. Its more than 13 per cent I think xxxxxxx

mrsgee


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Message Posted:
07/01/2010 23:56

A good chianti is always favourite...or, if you can get hold of Sicilian wines.....nero d'avola ....very good - love it, but all down to taste really (not a fan of Spanish or French... prefer Italian)....but, Yakut is very good.

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 00:51

hi mrsgee chianti is our best seller along with the good fav pino grigo. We stock most italian wines to buy in or out. this week we sold out of chianti superiore.

nostradamus


Joined: 15/04/2008
Posts: 557

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 07:33

Try Hur Deniz in Girne for a good range of Chilean and Argentinian wines. The Santa Carolina range of Chilean are particularly good. They also have Blossom Hill at very good prices - 8.45TL for Cabernet and Merlot recently.

Grinderman


Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 33

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 12:51

"Have you tried Yakut, it's a bit like Shiraz?" (9)



Actually it's more like drain cleanser. In some shops the wine comes with a free stomach-pump if you buy a case.



The Cape Wines shop next to Supreme in Catalkoy has a range of South African wines of all different prices from 5TL/bottle up to 55. And you can get his stuff at Bells and Hurdeniz too. Strongly recommended.

professoregit


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Posts: 381

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 12:58

Illeli do Simonsvlei - Cabernet Sauvignon and Shiraz, very good. Can also recommend Tirvento Pinot Noir also

sold in Illeli and Starling. Stonemason (Aus) Shiraz and Cabernet very good Ilelli, slightly more expensive but

worth it. Love red wines but they dont like me - the dreaded gout!

Bowman


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Posts: 256

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 13:12

Supreme have a great range of Jacobs Creek reds. Not the best Oz reds, but also not too expensive and well worth a quaff....Also the Kaya range of reds (also Supreme) are very good too!

TheScarlets



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Posts: 877

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 20:15

You can't beat a good bottle of Angora Red,

carollynne


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Posts: 128

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 22:46

I love Angora red, actually I love the white too

Pippie


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Message Posted:
09/01/2010 10:44

I love a glass of red with my evening meal and like you have found it difficult to find a good decent one. So, I lowered my standards but have been pleasantly surprised. Across lots of the big supermarkets - Erdener, Lemar, Tempo I've been seeing this red wine on special offer - Don Simon, half price now 3.95 (yes £1.50!!). It's a Spanish Tempranillo and I would say rivals Sheraz. A good full bodied, 12.5%, although not as smooth as the likes of Barolo, Chateauneuf or Cahors. But I don't feel as guilty of treating myself to a few bottles a week!!

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
09/01/2010 18:00

yes i have vee its purly for the record .........and if u believe that

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
09/01/2010 18:01

thanks chaps ill try them all just to be sure xx

elkiton



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Message Posted:
09/01/2010 19:44

Whilst it is down to every individual's taste, and I use Don Simon in tetrapaks for making gravy with, so call me a wine snob and get it over with if you will......There is certainly a big gulf in the quality / taste of wines out here. Whilst you can get stuff at 3-4tl a bottle, if you can stretch to 8-10tl then you can find some really nice wines. If like me, you would rather drink one bottle of excellent wine than 10 bottles of junk, Blossom Hill at 10tl or Kayala at 18tl should definitely be on the list.

TonyE

scoobydoo


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Message Posted:
09/01/2010 19:57

Some that we are drinking at the mo are:



Don Luciano, Spanish (in case you couldn't guess from the name) at 5.95 TL from Supreme, Erdeners, Lemar, Hurdeniz



Premio, Chile at 9.95/10 TL - we like both the red and the white from Supreme, Erdeners and Hurdeniz



Simonsvlei, South African, at 8.95 TL from Cape Wines warehouse



Santo Carolina about 12.50 TL (depending where you buy it from) from Supreme, Erdeners and Hurdeniz



These may be in other shops but these are the ones i shop in.

Clarissa2


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 19:59

Dear Elkiton,

When I lived in the USA, only poor students who can not afford anything better would drink Blossom Hill. So much for "wine snob"!

elkiton



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Posts: 514

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 22:28

Wow Clarissa2, what rattled your cage so well, the Tetrapack comment, or making gravy from Don Simon?

That's the joy of this board, you have to be thick skinned to risk a posting here most days.



My point entirely and thank you for supporting me on the Blossom Hill line. In the Uk no self respecting wine quaffer would ever consider the likes of the stuff we drink out here, some of it has to be chilled to the point of freezing the tongue, and others have to have 7up added to make it taste 1/2 respectable, is that any way to treat a decent wine?



Nah, the real wine snobs will be sitting back with a decanter of good stuff and laughing at our attempts to be sophisticated...but my advice that Kayla is quite a fair wine for the price still stands, which is the purpose of the thread.



By the way, I missed your recommendation....other than not to drink Blossom Hill.....it was??

Tony

eastendjoker


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Message Posted:
09/01/2010 22:49

what is that n.cyprus red like ? cant remember what it is called but is quite expensive ! st hillarion ! thats it !

Grinderman


Joined: 11/08/2009
Posts: 33

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 11:06

I have attended wine-tastings at the St Hilarion winery. He is a serious wine-maker, and has clearly spent a great deal of money on stainless steel equipment. Unfortunately the only wine I have seen on sale to the general public is the 2005 Cabernet-Shiraz which is barely drinkable in my opinion, and expensive at TL26.50. You can buy something really good for that money. But if you want to try it, it's available at Cape Wines in Catalkoy.

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 11:44

Lilli that is a very sweeping statement about Turkish wines whilst i wholeheartedly agree with you over some of the cheaper varieties you should try some from Bozcaada and others from Cappadocia they are far superior to the Italian plonk.

With the exception of course of Barolo which i love with a passion.



Try Melencik a very good red.

swannee7


Joined: 21/08/2009
Posts: 394

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 19:08

Hippo & Lilli : Why have you omitted Valpolicella from the list? A lovely, smooth & 'quaffable' vino rosso (and possibly a wee bit cheaper than Barolo? )



South of the border and still with reds, the no-nonsense Keo Claret was a sure-fire winner but with the Euro having pushed prices OTT, it may get overlooked.

Lilli



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Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 19:24

Thank you Hippo aLWAYS LIKE TO BR EDUCATED sorry this key v=board has a mind of its own Hipps i will try to intoduce them. As you know we are an italian restaurant and as such we stock barolo chiant5e amerome etc. which sell very well as do the whites. However we do stocj Angora as I find its the best of the turkish wines. Now I will take your suggestion on board and I thank you. Swanne We always have Valpol. Hips you aRE always welcome to share a GLASS or thre of our barolo anytime xxxxxxxxxx EDo you know today sunday lunch our biggest seller was Amarone. Bill your fav xxxxxxx

Suffolk



Joined: 31/08/2008
Posts: 222

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 19:39

We like Yakut and Angora red, another very good option is Simonay (South African Red /also do White/sweet/dry) a 5ltr box costs 35TL in Bell foods. Ideal if you have company or drink less than a bottle or two, keeps for several weeks once opened!



Unfortunately some bar/restaurants do not have any experience or knowledge of wines and you can get charged 5 or 6 tl for a superb wine or vinegar!!

Jovial_John


Joined: 31/01/2009
Posts: 1024

Message Posted:
11/01/2010 10:31

RE Message 21

I agree with your positive comments on Simonsvlei but you omitted the best of their range - Pinotage, again about 9.5tl and available at Bells, Cape Wines, Hur Deniz et al. This is exclusively a South African wine, full bodied and quite smooth for Cyprus. It improves for standing open for a couple of hours. I think many people avoid it because it is not a generally recognised name like Cabernet or Shiraz - give it a try.

Clarissa2


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Posts: 1476

Message Posted:
11/01/2010 10:51

RE: Msg31



Dear Mr polite, you wrote 'what rattled your cage?'.

May I ask you where did you learn such a wonderful and polite way of conversing with people especially ladies whom you have never met ? Surely not in your professional role as a 'business troubleshooter'. The topic was about wine recommendation for racoonchic. And other people kindly wrote about their favourite wines. Instead of just writing your recommendation you have chosen to mock Pippie on her taste for Don Simon whilst pretending to be a wine connoisseur. When I travel I always try and buy local wine, so here I find red Angora quite palatable. But it was mentioned several times in this thread above.



When working in Ankara I was often served a Turkish juicy rounded red the name of which escapes me but there was a large 'W' on the label. I have not seen it here, perhaps I should look in Lefkosa. If I find it here you will be the first to know.



Clarissa

guidosp1


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Message Posted:
11/01/2010 11:24

Turkish winemakers used to have just two recipes; one for white wine and one for red. No account was taken for different temperatures, weather, or any of the many other factors which affect grapes and winemaking. Tasting was carried out sporadically; some of the wineries' owners would only drink Raki, so that must have been a massive handicap in achieving the essential quality tests. In Cappadocia the vineyards are frequently located high — up to 1,400 metres. It was thought that the world's highest were 1,200 metres, in Argentina. in this Country they have no idea how to keep wine, how many times you will see wine kept on display on shop windows expose to sunlight? and dont forget that the maximum temperature the wine will handle is below 20 degrees.

guido

Corbo



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Message Posted:
11/01/2010 12:19

Been a bit disappointed with the choice of wine here but the Mersin varietal red big bottles are OK. Angora is good quaffing with local food. For now I'm sticking with the boxed red 3 litre Argentina Shiraz Malbec, 23 TL from Starling. Smooth and easy drinking with some fruit.