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proger1


Joined: 18/04/2009 Posts: 2919
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 06:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 1 of 86 in Discussion |
| Firstly, Let me point out that I am just a lowly member of the forum and this is not affiliated to anyone with authority on the forum, I am just curious if anyone has any practicable ideas. I have read lots of recent posts trying to re-instate 6M's posting rights. I too, really enjoyed having Mark around and through him and Oilmans help have much more of an understanding of a certain issue however as can be seen in other posts that one will be completely up to Izzet (Get well soon) and bare in mind that Mark often flew close to the edge and expected to be banned, I don't think he ever expected a length of ban like this though and I think it is a little extreme but that is just my opinion. There have also been a great deal of posts about DC's voluntary abstinance, which hopefully has been resolved (welcome back Hans if you choose so to be), that one seemed to be due to a certain anonymous poster using false ID's to get on after being banned (No evidence, just supposition) - cont |
proger1


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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 07:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 2 of 86 in Discussion |
| cont - Sorry, but that was a little long winded way of getting to the stage of asking if anyone has any ideas how to help solving the problems. I personaly find the forum useful, entertaining and friendly most of the time. There are however occasions when you post and then get abused from strangers far and wide. I know there is a vast array of differences between the 2 aforementioned situations but I do see one thing in common. DC eventually got so tired of the abuse that he (I assume) thought "Why should I bother putting in time and effort for this abuse" and in M's case the anti-sponsor comments mormally started tamely but then people got abusive and it went down hill from there. So my question is, how would you control the abuse and while the easy answer is "that's up to the mods", the mods seem to be completely under fire all the time for being too controlling. Catch 22 situation springs to mind for me, hence the curiosity for an answer. |
nurseawful


Joined: 06/02/2009 Posts: 5934
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 07:57 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 3 of 86 in Discussion |
| Now I know this is a bit far fetched but when people join the forum could they not be asked for a phone number which could be checked out especially if someone is being suspected of having multiple ID's. Chris |
mikelapta


Joined: 20/11/2008 Posts: 2186
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 08:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 4 of 86 in Discussion |
| I agree with Christhat telephone numbers should be supplied when joining. Also,if the Commander-in-Chief is ill,there must be a Deputy to step in. Mike |
jinyx

Joined: 21/08/2009 Posts: 161
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 09:06 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 6 of 86 in Discussion |
| LOOK, it's as simple as this.... if you dont want to put yourself at risk, then dont turn on your computer. Theres no short or straight answer, everytime you switch on, be assured that someone is checking you out, that goes for 44 or anything else on the net. The only sure fired way of stopping the risk of abuse, is dont take part. You might say everone has the right to do what they want in any walk of life without suffering abuse, but its just not so! Modern lifes just not that simple. I agree with the deputy comment, that needs to be addressed. As for the mods, tell me, who appoints these people in the first place, and under what criteria. One of their pictures is of a woman and a baby, and I cant work out which one is doing the talking, " look whos talking now". |
smithy

Joined: 17/07/2008 Posts: 5301
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 09:14 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 7 of 86 in Discussion |
| I agree with Chris Maybe a phone number will solve a few issues, Cooper I like your idea of a Deputy especially the dog |
Geoff

Joined: 25/06/2008 Posts: 1370
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 09:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 8 of 86 in Discussion |
| The fact that many website forums in UK etc have these problems and do nothing about them is no justification for taking no action on Cyprus44. I would support any action to eliminate the trouble makers. I am no computer or website expert, so will have to leave corrective suggestions/methods to those who know what can be done. We also have the problem of "politics" in Cyprus - infiltration by those from the south out to "stir it". I have no objections myself to GCs or those in the south using this website - I used to reside over there myself - provided they keep to the rules and refrain from biassed politics. In short I hope all users of Cyprus44 will support Izzet and the others who provide and run this superb facility. Geoff Famagusta City. |
proger1


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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 09:31 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 9 of 86 in Discussion |
| Thanx jinyx, if nothing else you proved that people can't help themself. It is so easy to add a little sarcasm which can be entertaining but in my experience that only works if both parties understand that it is only sarcasm. When 2 people are familiar with each other that is fine unfortunately on a forum others tend to join in and it can be construde as abuse and that is when the backlash starts. I've been there and done that, probably too many times !! I have seen many times people stating, if you don't like it then don't read it but how do you know if you don't read it that it will upset you. Another catch 22. I am not saying that there is an answer but with the group experience that can be found on here I thought that someone might have come across some potential ideas in the past or has something original to offer. The phone idea is sound in principle, I can see some flaws but they could be worked out |
everon

Joined: 18/04/2009 Posts: 956
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 09:38 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 10 of 86 in Discussion |
| peeps on here loose the plot. They start attacking peeps personally. Mocking their spelling and content of their threads etc. WHY? the same peeps have a network of 'friends' who they never attack in this way. I think it's called a 'click'. If we can get rid of the 'click' mentality and treat all with respect, maybe we will have a forum for ALL to enjoy! Have a nice day! x |
jinyx

Joined: 21/08/2009 Posts: 161
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 09:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 11 of 86 in Discussion |
| Proger, .... on the point of sarcasm, as you put it,...... in the words of good old Esther Ranson...... or Frank Sinatra..... "THATS LIFE!". If anyone wants a nice clinically clean forum, may I suggest they become a member of NUN.COM run by the little sisters of mercy, its really sweet on there. Banter makes any forum tick. Oh by the way, if anyone cant work out that my baby comment was a joke, then I bloody well give up!. |
jinyx

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 09:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 12 of 86 in Discussion |
| Well said Eva. |
Lazy days

Joined: 24/07/2008 Posts: 847
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 09:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 13 of 86 in Discussion |
| As log as you have people who are prepared to lie and cheat and stab people in the back, post without thinking about what they are about to say and the repercussions or possible repercussions, you will never be able to stop it, me personaly I think that all these useless posts, where peeps come on just to see there names on the screen who come in on subjects where they dont have the slightest clue what is REALLY going on and those who post about five times a day, mostly junk They are the architects of the boards downfall. If you thought about what you said Chris & Mikelapta I dont think you would have posted in quite the way you did mess 3 & 4, did you think about the exorbitant cost of phoning Bavaria, Scotland, England, Thailand, Norway,Russia, Australia, NewZealand etc to check phone numbers as these are just some of the places the members live. Just my opinion lol A |
DutchCrusader


Joined: 19/05/2008 Posts: 11281
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 09:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 14 of 86 in Discussion |
| A site, devided in Subjects with a moderator on every subject, is the answer most big Bulletin Boards on the Internet have chosen. Rightly so in my opinion. Concentrated attention for anything that can go wrong. Moderating this site (more or less a library after a bomb attack) is an impossible task for free lancers, volunteers or appointed well meaning people. (We usually see four Moderators on line - how many Moderators are left to manage Cyprus44? I have no idea anymore.). |
cyprusishome

Joined: 31/03/2007 Posts: 2381
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 09:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 15 of 86 in Discussion |
| prodger, think this comment of yours is one of the key sources of problems - "It is so easy to add a little sarcasm which can be entertaining but in my experience that only works if both parties understand that it is only sarcasm" One person makes what they think is a cryptic comment that 99% will understand but 1% takes it the wrong way then all hell breaks loose. The answer is that all must think at least twice before responding. As for politics, there are too many people who are not prepared to see both sides of the Cyprus problem. I know here in TRNC we are correct in all our views but... As for telephone, sorry none starter for me. This is a commercial forum and also not 100% secure, I for one would not support that argument. If members want to have multiple logins or rejoin in other names so be it, you will never stop them, just live with it. David |
dozza67

Joined: 11/07/2008 Posts: 607
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 09:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 16 of 86 in Discussion |
| What I cannot understand is that people come over to this country for a better way of life, the sunshine, the sea, the lovely lovely Turkish Cypriots but then spoil it all for themselves and others by being so nowty (Lancashire word) deliberately setting out to bait people into doing/saying things that wind them up. Why? Why on earth can't you try to become better people and enjoy your life and let others enjoy theirs. It's not too late to make a News Years resolution to try and become a better person. |
proger1


Joined: 18/04/2009 Posts: 2919
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 09:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 17 of 86 in Discussion |
| I am not so sure it's a clique (sorry, couldn't help myself) situation. I have never felt like I am not invited to join into any conversation which is exactly what a clique would do. |
proger1


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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 10:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 18 of 86 in Discussion |
| As usual with the exception of Chris, DC and a few agreements we have the tough luck brigade. I did ask for practicable ideas and I don't think not going online or just live with it are in that category. Good point about the commercial site on the phone number geoff but it wouldn't have to be on display, it would just require that someone answer the phone when izzet calls. As for the cost, Skype is pretty cheap to call most countries and if you were to improve the standard of the board then you would probably gain more members meaning potentially more sponsor revenue. I think the phone idea is a non starter because its too easy to get around it. DC's idea is sound but it means having to have a mod on 24/7 for each subject board or closing the subject for set periods. |
jinyx

Joined: 21/08/2009 Posts: 161
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 10:19 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 19 of 86 in Discussion |
| No, What eva means that too many people on here want the forum for their own litttle group with their own little interests, hence the term click or clique, and true, they never knock or correct their own, but butter each other up with sweet suger comments. But wow betide you say anything against their own, however right, they'll pounce on you like a pride of Lions, and rip you to shreads. We've all seen it happen on this, and other forums, its a fact of "forum" life. |
tarry67

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 10:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 20 of 86 in Discussion |
| There is nothing wrong with the way the board is managed, the problem on here is, it is the same old people causing the same old trouble with really childish comments, or as someone already stated a little click has formed that already meet up each week so why do they need to chat away on here. Again stated earlier, you just naturally open the thread because that's what this site is all about expecting too read something interesting and end up reading about someones daily routines or what they have on the menu later. If everyone had a picture on display I wonder how much of the banter would disappear. I am sure people are just bored here in the trnc, that is why they moan and groan and pick holes in everything. I am sure they were not like this in the uk......................... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
everon

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 10:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 21 of 86 in Discussion |
| well said jinyx, sooooooooo true x |
viper

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 10:27 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 22 of 86 in Discussion |
| I personally think that most of the antagonism by a small minority is due to there boredom with there life and the need to create some excitement there, as for stopping this form of bullying on a public forum I can not see a solution other than as jinyx wrote 'if you dont want to put yourself at risk, then dont turn on your computer' sad but true. viper |
Lazy days

Joined: 24/07/2008 Posts: 847
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 10:33 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 23 of 86 in Discussion |
| Hello pro ger I am a moderator on a board and it is put into different categories and its so simple to moderate, i never ever post on it though, lets face it the prime aim of all these boards is to give people good quality information about goods and services both here and in our respective country if everyone respects this then there is no problem, imho the problems arise when you get people promoting their own friends/pet businesses/unchecked sources, then others take exception, the TRNC is like a goldfish bowl, everybody knows everybody or knows somebody that knows somebody and all of them think they know best. Again IMHO this board is as Hans says (but in his own words) a mish mash, Izzet has tried to sort it out by bringing in many moderators, some of these moderators are unworthy and only asked for the job so that they could become little hitlers, (now i am not classing them all in this category) i had part of one of my poss moderated by harold recently, CONT. |
Lazy days

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 10:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 24 of 86 in Discussion |
| CONT: Sorry it should have read posts, maybe this is the way the board should go let people post but MODERATE their posts at least this way people will see that their post has been allowed, what they must not do is replace text with their own, this is illegal and in any case a log of everypost is recorded. An ex member on the board i moderate accused us of doing this and asked if she could bring in a computer expert to examine it, we said yes knowing full well that we had not changed anything only deleted part of it as it was verging on slander. If a mod reckons that a post is too offensive they should post the header and request that the person resubmit in a different manner, only my opinion lol |
sienna

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 10:44 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 25 of 86 in Discussion |
| The easy way is to Grow Up ))))) |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 10:45 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 26 of 86 in Discussion |
| jinyx. message 6. Your last line comment "One of their pictures is of a woman and a baby, and I cant work out which one is doing the talking, " look whos talking now". It's exactly comments like this that make people switch of from forums. They fear that if they say anything against the contributer of a statement like that they will be next recipient. I think your remark was unneccesary. |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 10:47 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 27 of 86 in Discussion |
| Lazt Days. I'm not aware of any moderator asking for 'the job' For my part I was approached by Izzet who asked me if I would like to help him by becoming a moderator. |
jinyx

Joined: 21/08/2009 Posts: 161
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 10:48 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 28 of 86 in Discussion |
| prodger, you didnt say practical but, here goes: Its accepted that the fonder didnt set up 44 for the good of his health (maybe its whats making him ill) its a commercial thing . What about if anyone thats bang out of order without question, and is banned, has to pay a fine to be re-instated, which will go towards the running of the site. As most members know, it costs to run this site, and the advertising revenue is not enough. This would offset hosting costs somewhat. Also maybe a small members fee to new members which could be re-payed after behaving for the first 12 months. Only a thought!. |
Lazy days

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 10:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 29 of 86 in Discussion |
| Here here Doyen, another thing i think is that useless comments on threads should be deleted immediately dont you agree sienna ))) |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 10:51 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 30 of 86 in Discussion |
| jinyx message 28. The fine idea is a good one. How do you deal with the multiple ID members that keep coming back on here under a different ID? |
sienna

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 10:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 31 of 86 in Discussion |
| Yes Lazy days and the backstabbing ones too |
Lazy days

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 10:52 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 32 of 86 in Discussion |
| Doyen, Izzet posted on this forum for people who may be interested in becoming moderators to submit their application to him with their reasons as to why they think they would be suitable for the positions, fact !! lol |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 10:55 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 33 of 86 in Discussion |
| Lazy Days. Well that may be the case - but I was asked personally. Did you consider applying for the position by the way? |
jinyx

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 10:58 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 34 of 86 in Discussion |
| Bill, it would seem that you dont read the replys posted throughly. Look for the words, JOKE and BANTER in mine, and the comment "if anyone cant see it, I bloody well give up!" Lighten up for gods sake!. |
sienna

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 35 of 86 in Discussion |
| Lazy days would have ot kerb snipping at Pipie couldnt possibly have a moderator doing that ! message 33 and I think hell woudl freeze over first )) |
jinyx

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 36 of 86 in Discussion |
| Bill, msg 30: Quite simple, if there out of order under any I.d. then fine them on the identity under which they have wronged. The idea of a joining fee would narrow down multiple names. |
proger1


Joined: 18/04/2009 Posts: 2919
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 37 of 86 in Discussion |
| jinyx, I did actually state practicable in the first line of the first post but that is by the by. As for the fine, I like it although it will be open to people complaining that they are always being fined, no matter how many identities they use. For No1, understandably it will be easier to re-ID than pay a fine but it will mean they have to wait until they can get back on by which time the post will have moved on and adding comments might well be redundant or even if they try, I imagine it would be pretty evident that they have just re-ID'd If you were to combine that with having to confirm ID through a phone call (Chris's idea) before being authorised to join the forum it might just work. Ideas coming together, WE CAN ACHIEVE !!!! (Damn that sounds like an Americanism) |
Lazy days

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 38 of 86 in Discussion |
| Doyen, no was too busy and its a thankless task as you know, and i wasn't asked lol :0 Sienna, mess 31 yes have you met her as well lol ))) you also seem now to be becoming a hound dog ))) lol Mess 20 Tarry, many of the posters are not resident in the TRNC, they sit at their keyboards in jolly old mother england spitting out their drivel Jinyx, you are sooo right girl, mess 19, I have admired your posts for some time, short but to the point, i loved the one about u tube doubt if many got it though lol |
Lazy days

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 39 of 86 in Discussion |
| Sienna mess 35 you are bang out of order lady where did i mention any one by name, goes to show though that the chinese whisperers are working together, if the cap fits lol |
sienna

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 40 of 86 in Discussion |
| Message 38 exactly my point you cannot take others points of view without a snide comment most of the contributors do sit England so what - I rest my case not a good candisdate for a moderator have a good day love Sienna (aka hound dog) lol !!! |
colly

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:10 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 41 of 86 in Discussion |
| One ID would help, there are sites where you can see the ip address which prevents multiple ID. It is all to easy to hide behind a second ID just to stir things up. As far as 6ms goes over all the years of reading his posts I have always considered his postings to be of a reasonable nature and fair argument. He is certainly knowledgeable on the situation and whilst people may not agree with him he puts his point over well which sometimes seems to wind people up. Treated with the repect that you would expect and I am sure there would not be a problem. I have to admit to missing the posts that flew close to the edge! Only my opinion of course. Col |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 42 of 86 in Discussion |
| Just a quick census of opinion for all those who are reading or participating in this thread - How many of you would be prepared to pay a 'fee' to join this forum? |
nurseawful


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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 43 of 86 in Discussion |
| In all honesty Bill not me, I work for nothing as it is so really couldn't justify spending money on top of my internet fees as we both live of hubby's private pension. (we're not old enough for a state pension)! Chris |
sienna

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:15 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 44 of 86 in Discussion |
| NO - why ? isn't money made from the forum anyways ! |
proger1


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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 45 of 86 in Discussion |
| I could live with it at a reasonable price. Now I suppose I will be Ostrisized |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 46 of 86 in Discussion |
| sienna. A couple of members have suggested in previous posts above that it may be a good idea to charge people a joining fee. I have just asked if anyone would be prepared to pay a fee, that's all. |
nurseawful


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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 47 of 86 in Discussion |
| Actually just a thought Bill going back to the telephone idea, someone said too expensive for Izzet to phone everyone as they could be anywhere in the world. Could they not have to phone Izzet or one of the mods to activate their account, obviously there would be certain times set for this so nobody would be getting phone calls in the middle of the night. Chris |
mikelapta


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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:20 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 48 of 86 in Discussion |
| Just a couple of ideas came to me whilst weeding the garden on this beautiful island.What a fantastic day for early January.Maybe some membere need this sunshine and heat on their bodies to make them nicer and calmer!!! What is the point of double identity?Is it not fraud?Surely anyone doing this should be banned for a long period. And a list put up on the forum of all banned persons,for why,and for how long?? Name and shame the b*st*rds Mike |
minertor


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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:21 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 49 of 86 in Discussion |
| msg 42, would depend on the fee and whether we had any input re. policy. Personally I'd not mind paying if it meant getting better and accountable moderators. Tony |
proger1


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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 50 of 86 in Discussion |
| How about charging a deposit of sorts Bill, that way you risk forfeighting it if you don't pay the fine !!! |
Pipie

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 51 of 86 in Discussion |
| name and shame double ID's !! |
viper

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 52 of 86 in Discussion |
| Lazy days and sienna is it PMT time..lighten up girls this is exactle what this posting is all about.... there is no need to get in a slaging match with each other its only a debate. viper |
proger1


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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:46 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 53 of 86 in Discussion |
| I was going to see if they had calmed down or were going to elevate to direct insilts before I said anything |
Pipie

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 54 of 86 in Discussion |
| Take a look at some of the other forums that are out there some of them represent ''do you wanna be in my gang and if youre not you are out so to speak, control freaks in my opinion . Cyprus 44 may have had its drawbacks in the past such as banning people for petty things but at least Cyprus 44 is open to ideas so that is a plus point from me |
nurseawful


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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 11:53 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 55 of 86 in Discussion |
| HI Proger, Well one thing is clear you asked for sensible suggestions and ended up with the usual allegations against people being part of cliques, mods being little Hitlers need I go on. Conclusion from me is that probably many of these people like the board the way it is and they can take their frustrations out on people they don't know instead of kicking the cat!!!! Chris |
viper

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 12:00 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 56 of 86 in Discussion |
| Chris I concur viper |
Lazy days

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 12:02 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 57 of 86 in Discussion |
| pro ger i leave that to others i only try to speak the truth and if anyone can prove different please point it out, if i make a statement and others want to read into it that i was having a go at them or a friend then they must have something to hide would you not agree. Point, i never mentioned any name but people are allowed to come on here with inuendo that is damaging to people or businesses and absolutely nothing is done about it, this inuendo is never substantiated by the poster of the thread, do the mods ask for substantiation NO, when a reply asks for proof it is ignored, these are the people who should be banned, they are proven troublemakers BTW pro ger whats an insilt is it the opposite of an outsilt lol ))) |
proger1


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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 12:12 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 58 of 86 in Discussion |
| I think you are right Chris, at the end of the day it is up to the person writing the post. Personally I reread before I post hoping not to offend and if on occasion I get it wrong I apologise for getting it wrong. I tried the fight back technique a couple of times, normally when I'm drunk and it leads nowhere but more anamosity between the parties. I suppose it is a personal thing, if you don't give a care then you write what ever you want !!! |
jinyx

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 12:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 59 of 86 in Discussion |
| Msg 55: see there you go chris, I said these posts always get back to animals, and animal cruelty, " kicking the cat ". On a serious note, a charge of circa £10 per year isn't out of the way of anyone. This could always be deducted for "being nice". Also for sale adverts, charge 5 lira. Business event adverts 5 lira. And anyone mentioning a certain business in more than 10 postings in one year, 5 lira for each one after, Same for the word DOG. HERES THE BIG ONE (off the thread) Bring in a dog licence fee of £100. |
proger1


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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 12:23 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 60 of 86 in Discussion |
| Lazy days, I got confused there for a minute looking at my own name, pro ger. Paul is easier. An insilt is a strange creature that eats haggis for breakfast and broase for supper, I thought they might start to throw them at each other !! |
proger1


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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 12:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 61 of 86 in Discussion |
| jinyx, I think you would make more money at 5 Lira per mention of the word |
Tiggy

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 12:32 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 62 of 86 in Discussion |
| msg 55 sums it right up. Sort out all the multi identities first. I have Tiggy and a old one of Kapparis Kid (not used now) Come on......let's be having you....I bet some of you moaners also have more than one ID., so let's see who has the backbone to own up? orderly quee..... No fees for me. No bringing back of banned members seperate board for women! |
No1Doyen

 Joined: 04/07/2008 Posts: 16617
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 12:35 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 63 of 86 in Discussion |
| Tiggy, "seperate board for women"? Here it comes ....watch out! ) |
Pipie

Joined: 05/01/2008 Posts: 5499
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 12:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 64 of 86 in Discussion |
| ''Crikey ''you are having a laugh !!!!! |
No1Doyen

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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 12:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 65 of 86 in Discussion |
| On a serious note, thanks for some of the suggestions on here. Make no mistake we do take notice of requests from members. We are never going to please everyone - but we do try. There are almost 8000 members on here and only 6 active moderators. We can't monitor the forum 24 hours a day, there are going to be times when none of us are actually logged on. Please keep providing us with suggestions after all it's your forum and we are only here to help it run smoothly (as best we can!) |
Tiggy

Joined: 25/07/2007 Posts: 1994
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 12:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 66 of 86 in Discussion |
| Nah, the ladies know this is not the forum for them. Bless em. Off to my bunker now! |
Pipie

Joined: 05/01/2008 Posts: 5499
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 12:42 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 67 of 86 in Discussion |
| Who supports naming and shaming multiple ID'S ? |
proger1


Joined: 18/04/2009 Posts: 2919
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 12:49 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 68 of 86 in Discussion |
| I do Pipie !! |
nurseawful


Joined: 06/02/2009 Posts: 5934
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 12:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 69 of 86 in Discussion |
| Count me in Pipie |
Lazy days

Joined: 24/07/2008 Posts: 847
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 12:54 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 70 of 86 in Discussion |
| Great idea am all for a small fee for advertising any business on the forum, a seperate animal section as with all due respect there are toooo many stray/homewanted/poor dog stories PROGER how do the insilts catch the haggis, i thought they could run fast, or do they go into the shop and buy them, and what is brose? Doyen, great idea Nurseawful, nobody can deny that some of the mods (some) act like little hitlers, or for a better term of phrasology (spelling ?) overstep their authority, and the thing that annoys sooo many on here is the continual picking up of peeps for stupid typos or for not using politically correct wording, most of these people who post, are only ordinary folks and not high flying legal eagles (but there is a few barrack room lawyers as in every pub/club in the land, the know it all brigade) Some on here have also upset big time some very important and powerful peeps on this island and one thing the T/C's have is a long memory |
proger1


Joined: 18/04/2009 Posts: 2919
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 12:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 71 of 86 in Discussion |
| The insilts order them over the internet and brose is haggis larvae |
Lazy days

Joined: 24/07/2008 Posts: 847
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 13:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 72 of 86 in Discussion |
| Brilliant explanation proger i love it well done for lightening the mood Ta xx |
sienna

Joined: 09/01/2009 Posts: 1627
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 14:05 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 73 of 86 in Discussion |
| what a good suggestion a separate forum for woman, might have more sensible posts and NO MORE FOOTBALL FISHING & RUGBY most of the REAL nasty threads are men against men anyway - but when the woman disagree its suggested it is PMT time lolllllllllllllllllll As long as you have a bunch of people together forum or not you are not all going to see eye to eye and there will be fall outs sad but true |
britvic


Joined: 05/09/2008 Posts: 3039
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 14:17 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 74 of 86 in Discussion |
| Why fix something that's not broken? This forum has been the same for years and has a winning formula, people love it, you can tell by the way people publicly threaten to leave only to come back within the hour! |
dizzycows

Joined: 12/05/2009 Posts: 2736
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 15:03 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 75 of 86 in Discussion |
| Very sound words britvic. My kids used to threaten me, 'if I cant have' or 'I want' they were ignored, I never gave in to threats! Still dont, as if one goes down that road, all credibility is lost..... |
proger1


Joined: 18/04/2009 Posts: 2919
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 15:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 76 of 86 in Discussion |
| Don't fix it and don't give into threats, not really what I was looking for but what the hey, the comments are relevent to someone I'm sure and yes that was sarcasm !! |
britvic


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Message Posted: 08/01/2010 15:22 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 77 of 86 in Discussion |
| Cheeky! |
Lilli


Joined: 21/07/2008 Posts: 13081
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 15:43 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 78 of 86 in Discussion |
| I for one would pay a joining fee/Or perhaps a donation as on Niges board to help maintain the forum xx |
britvic


Joined: 05/09/2008 Posts: 3039
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 16:08 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 79 of 86 in Discussion |
| Lilli, This forum gets revenue from advertisers, Nige's forum is self ran that's why he asks for donations. Hope you are well. Vicki |
vincent1

Joined: 20/07/2009 Posts: 212
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 16:24 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 80 of 86 in Discussion |
| How about a forum just for Dutch people ? |
No1Doyen

 Joined: 04/07/2008 Posts: 16617
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 16:25 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 81 of 86 in Discussion |
| vincent1. I'm sure there are plenty in Holland. |
elkiton


Joined: 15/03/2009 Posts: 514
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 18:41 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 82 of 86 in Discussion |
| Re message 74, my view too.... the board ain't broke so don't fix it. Much ado about nothing. In a week's time all will be smoothed over. The moderators do an OK job,not perfect but OK. Certain posts are deleted, quite rightly too, except for them that lost theirs. Certain people get banned, that's OK too but apparently not for their friends who display righteous indignation. If you pick up a paintbrush instead of a quill that's what you should expect. Yes, all duplicate ID's should have all deleted except one. No we don't need a fee system. Yes threads should be closed when they are going nowhere. No we don't need a referendum on moderators. And yes we should stop stirring it up when they do their job. Like referees, their word is law and you should get red carded / warnings for public disagreement. Rule 4? Don't like it? Then go start up your own forum and take your angst and friends with you. TonyE |
measey

Joined: 07/02/2009 Posts: 1037
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 18:59 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 83 of 86 in Discussion |
| Count me in pipie. Keith. |
measey

Joined: 07/02/2009 Posts: 1037
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 19:04 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 84 of 86 in Discussion |
| well said that man. |
swannee7

Joined: 21/08/2009 Posts: 394
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 19:16 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 85 of 86 in Discussion |
| Tony E (msg.82). Sound, common sense. Good post. |
Tiggy

Joined: 25/07/2007 Posts: 1994
Message Posted: 08/01/2010 19:50 | Join or Login to Reply | Message 86 of 86 in Discussion |
| Tony, You are spot on. P. |
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