Who Makes a Good Moderator

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 15:59

Hi All. What makes a good moderator , and what Qualifications are required.



Keith.

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 16:09

Hi Keith, I would think common sense would be a priority.



Vicki

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 16:11

You have to be pretty thick skinned to be able to deal with some posters continually 'sniping' at the moderators.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 16:13

Keith

Can I ask why you joined this board?

AJ

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 16:15

Vicky. I would think tolerance was a priority.



Keith

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 16:17

I would agree with message 3. You'd need skin like a rhino, I'd have thought

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 16:17

AJ, Why did any of us join this forum? Perhaps because we are interested in the TRNC?

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 16:18

Hi .AJ. do i have to answer that as i would rather not . but if it means i have to i will.



Keith.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 16:20

Good natured

Tactful

Resilient

Good listener

Trusting

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 16:23

and a lot of patience to sit and read all the postings

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 16:24

all those atributes you have Bill xx I think patience and tolerance also xx

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 16:25

No 1. bit like Lilli, smithy etc.



Keith

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 16:41

measey

Message 8:



' Hi .AJ. do i have to answer that as i would rather not . but if it means i have to i will. '



Yes please tell us what your motive is for joining Cyprus44.

AJ

By the way you have e-mail.

Texas


Joined: 22/09/2009
Posts: 634

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 17:12

Who makes a good moderator?



A very good question.



In my opinion someone who is above all the crap; who helps; avoids gossip; avoids confrontation and is well respected.



I doubt if Ismet (Elko) would want the job if it was offerred, but I think he fits the description above.



I bear no disrespect to any of the mods with the above comments.

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 17:14

i have an interest in the TRNC as i have a property there.I find many of the members nice people and will carry on communicating with them.I have read e-mail and noted its contents.



Keith.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 17:21

measey

Thanks for your reply, in what part of the TRNC do you own?

AJ

waddo


Joined: 29/11/2008
Posts: 1966

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 18:15

Above all else - somebody with the time to do the job! That means total dedication and not just dropping in every now and then.



Next - Ask what you want from your "moderator", do you want understanding, patience, trust, humour and tact? Or do you want "Justice"? The same as your policeman - what do you want from them?



The moderator should uphold the laws (rules) of the site - without regard for friendship, race, creed or color. The moderator should not have shades of grey in thinking but simple black and white!



There is no such thing as being a little bit wrong or not quite right - Right or Wrong, that's it!



It takes a very strong person to be a moderator - experience in this field tells me so - and you need to be prepared to sit alone, on your own in a room, surrounded by your mates! Yet still enjoy the job.



Good luck to all moderators - yours is the worst or best job in the world, depending on how you view it.

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 18:33

esentepe.will become very upmarket region i think.



Keith.

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 18:45

Hi Texas. very good choice ismet would make a very good one, wealth of good imformation and always prepare to help people, have pick up some good info from his posts.Lilli & smithy i believe would make good ones two think they would put us fellas in our place when required but with a smile.



Keith.

yorgozlu



Joined: 16/06/2009
Posts: 4437

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 18:56

msg 1;

I would make a bloody good moderator.

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 19:13

Hi yorg. I think you would make a good moderator in fact i think you would be the best Bloody moderator the world has know.



Keith.

Texas


Joined: 22/09/2009
Posts: 634

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 20:21

Is there any requirement for a moderator to be moderate?



"A moderate is an individual who is not extreme, partisan or radical".

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 20:25

"Carlsberg don't do Moderators, but if they did, they'd be the best moderators in the world "

Texas


Joined: 22/09/2009
Posts: 634

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 20:28

Quite a few mods here do Carlsberg!



But not AJ (see his photo)!

mrcyprus


Joined: 26/06/2009
Posts: 270

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 20:32

'good natured and trusting'



Not from what ive seen. None of you are good natured and really not trusting, you take sides with those you have met in real life and dont bother to respect the others perspective.



The Mods are just as bad as the posters, none are qualified.



:D

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 20:40

Well I've only ever met two people on here so that puts one theory to bed.

erolz


Joined: 17/11/2008
Posts: 3456

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 20:43

My personal view is that good moderation is the result of good clear polices on moderation more than on the moderators themselves.



The key thing with moderation is clarity in what is the objective of the moderation , for the mods as well as the users and consistentcy in how moderation is applied. Most people will tollerate most moderation if they understand what the objective and rules are and if they are applied consistently and seen to be applied consistently. Its when either of these things are not clear , to the mods or users that you get problems in my view.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 20:47

mrcyprus. How do you know if any if us are not good natured or trusting? How many of us have you met?

gooligan


Joined: 30/01/2007
Posts: 1591

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 20:52

erolz,as usual you have hit the nail on the head.I said this in an earlier thread,whereas one moderator will allow a post another will come along and edit,close,delete it even though no rules have been broken.Therein the problem lies.

mrcyprus


Joined: 26/06/2009
Posts: 270

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 20:58

Maybe you are in real life.



On THIS board it seems you are not good natured or trusting, because you often dont stay neutral when it comes to disputes, which a moderator should do otherwise the authority of that moderator diminishes and people dont respect it.



Even if you dont agree with something, a moderator shouldnt get involved, it is your job to keep things under control, not to add fuel to the fire. If you want to get involved in disputes then drop the Moderator position.



Moderators on forums should have the respect of the members, atleast, otherwise they cant make a successful moderator, and while many people agree you do a good job, there are those that dont.



My personal opinion, though i doubt you care very much, is that you all are out of control, whether its with the fact you can ban people for 10000 years, or you just enjoy stirring things up.



Thats only my opinion.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 21:09

It happens in all walks of life, no matter who or what you are. Some people like you - some people don't. That's life I'm afraid. You can't make people like you.



You're also wrong about me not caring about your opinion. I respect your opinion and everybodys opinion on here. You're entitled to say whatever you want - in a respectful manner.

mrcyprus


Joined: 26/06/2009
Posts: 270

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 21:12

No1Doyen i wasnt just aiming it at you. It is to all the moderators.



How i said it was respectful, it could have been far worse...

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 21:13

By the way, staying neutral does not mean that you are a good natured person or that you can be trusted.

mrcyprus


Joined: 26/06/2009
Posts: 270

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 21:15

I know it doesnt, in general.. But when it comes to being a moderator all you have to be is neutral, and listen to all sides without siding with one.



Which ya'll do.

Texas


Joined: 22/09/2009
Posts: 634

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 21:55

Where getting somewhere.



Moderators need to be neutral. All sports referees also need to be neutral. Now, bear with me.



Do you know of any referees who ALSO play the "in" game that THEY referee?



I'm not suggesting a mod cannot comment, but I think it would help (if they refrained from posting), which would enable them to be objective and fair and therefore achieving respect.



You would not allow a referee who supports Chelsea and hates Man U, to referee that game! It would be impossible, no matter how good he was. He cannot make the correct decisions, as some would believe he is impartial.



A compromise could be for Mods to agree not to post (in any form) in subjects/topics which they later close. I know they could post, then ring another mate (Mod) to ask them to close it! But we have to trust this would not happen. Or only allow Izzet/Mods who do not post at all, to close topics.

Texas


Joined: 22/09/2009
Posts: 634

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 21:57

"Where" should read We are, or we're. Sorry. Bloody edit facility urgently required!

britvic



Joined: 05/09/2008
Posts: 3039

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 22:00

............Or they could have two identities, one as a mod and one as a poster! lol

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 22:04

Or multiple identities

Texas


Joined: 22/09/2009
Posts: 634

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 22:14

Funny, but quite a good idea. Imagine a Mod with a serious personality disorder.



Three identities. Two members, and one mod.



He/she could argue with him/herself 'till the cows come home. Then close the thread just before they get banned.

No1Doyen


Joined: 04/07/2008
Posts: 16617

Message Posted:
08/01/2010 22:16

Texas, that's funny ))

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 02:18

Some are born great moderators, some achieve moderation, some have moderation thrust upon them.



I was in the last catagory and it has been lifted from me.



I am free.



Yay



Lem

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 02:43

Lem - I'm just glad you're back, in any capacity.



And, if anyone was to have greatness thrust upon them..........................................



Jean



PS Sincerely hope we can have a drink next time?

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 05:43

Bully

A Sun reader

Narrow Minded

Self opinionated

Love the great Poo Bah





But seriously you have to be resident in the TRNC that rules out at least one of them



The moderators have an easy time

Without them we would get on just fine



No more time in the sin bin

We will be able to rant and roar and make a din



Or if your words thier thoughts oppose

Mo more the words thread closed



So just why don't they take a hint

Basically thier words we think stink



AJ us one of the worst

Some of his comments are quite perverse



Simbas isn't much better

She's very quick to write a warning letter



An answer to my lines

Could take some time

For this little Rhyme

I will probably have to do some time!

hattikins


Joined: 17/02/2008
Posts: 2793

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 06:28

As I said in another thread Hippo, what is your problem, Dear God it's not still about your silly avatar is it, grow up man.

proger1



Joined: 18/04/2009
Posts: 2919

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 07:10

It seems funny to me that I have seen many things that pinpoint the bad things about moderators but I haven't been able to fully agree with any of them.

That can mean 2 possible things in my opinion.

I have been extremely fortunate and no Mod has ever read any of my posts

or

Even when I have been in a foul mood with someone I have manged to control my urges and only write truthfully (at least I believe it to be) and within tolerable limits of politeness.

I think the mods are doing fine with one exception, my only point used to be that they seemed to be more on the side of the longer joined members but then thinking about it they are used to seeing those members posts and can probably guess where it is going as opposed to newer members who could go off the edge.

The exception I mention is when one mod starts to back up another mod on a thread. It makes the original mod look weak and it makes the poster think they are being ganged up on.

Mods should post under a different name !!

nurseawful



Joined: 06/02/2009
Posts: 5934

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 07:38

I agree Paul, I think they do a good job and get very little in the way of thanks for it! They do a lot of work behind the scenes as well that is never recognised (charity work).



Chris

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 07:42

Hi Proger1 , originally there were only 4 of us ,and that included Izzet , we were also selected by Izzet , there was ukturk and myself and another who i did not know of at the time , the only 2 who showed their names were ukturk and Izzet , up until then there were no real problems and it worked well , until one time about 2yrs ago , when it seems we were all away . There was absolute chaos on the board due to a certain person . Members were practically baying for blood demanding that they should know who the mods were etc . Some older serving members will remember it well I'm sure . So mods came out of the closet so to speak . So you see we've tried it both ways .

Have a good w/e , Simbas

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 13:57

Hi Texas. Think AJ Effes a lot.



Keith.

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 15:37

Hippo. you have a e-mail.

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 17:24

Given the biased shown on occasions I wonder if moderators are required??



If we are going to have them then surely a selection of candidates should volounteer along with Izzetts favourites. Me, afraid in the majority, would not want the job even if it was paid.



Then have a vote. Those elected we would then have to follow, like it or not.



A set of rules should then be made available for the mods to act under the umbrella of.



One I think is essential is a moderator MUST not be allowed to make unilateral decisions to close threads. This especially where they obviously disgree with or have issues with an individual which happens regularly now.



Similarly at least 2 mods must be in agreement before banning members.

Texas


Joined: 22/09/2009
Posts: 634

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 17:26

I would like to congratulate the Mods for allowing this thread to continue.



I would not like everyone discussing issues about me on a public forum.



I bet someone closes it now

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 21:06

Noe mail has arrived in the Hippo's box

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 21:09

Hi Texas , you get used to it after a while !

Enjoy your evening , Simbas

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 21:10

Remember what peace there may be in silence!



Simbas does it for me.............as long as she has a G&T in front of her!



Happy New Year all,



Wynyardman

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 21:14

Hi Wyn , not partying this w/e ?

Take care , Simbas

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 21:18

Simbas,



You have E mail.



wyn

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 21:20

Hipps

Measey was being sarcastic.

Oh and by the way I took your advice about getting out more.

I bought a wireless router so now and I can sit outside with my computer.

Thanks for your concerns about my welfare.

AJ

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 21:56

Message 42 Jeannie



Love to, next out in July. New model Lem, slimmer, trimmer, no partner, no baggage, new job, new place to live in the UK. Catch up on Facebook,



http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?cropsuccess&id=703877522#/profile.php?ref=name&id=703877522



Cyprus44 never had such a youthful, laid back, humour loving moderator.



Lem

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
09/01/2010 21:58

Good to hear you're ok Lem

Take care , Simbas

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 06:26

Re MSG 58



And no money now I bet Lem

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 07:57

AJ msg 57, that made me chuckle

gates


Joined: 08/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 11:41

i cant beleive this i was band yesturday for asking when easter is this year can you believe it there is a mediator or was i dont know if still here that is in this country on a 90 day visa as he has no money no transport works ilegaly if he was not living with his girl friend he would have to go home does this make a good mediator suppose il get band again now dont you find it rediculas to get band trying to ask a simple question amazed me

measey


Joined: 07/02/2009
Posts: 1037

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 13:00

deecyprus.msg 57, made me chuckle too.



Keith.

Texas


Joined: 22/09/2009
Posts: 634

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 14:21

Dear Gates



Most people who post, probably want it read by others. There doesn't seem much reason to post, if you don't want anyone else to read your comments.



May I respectfully suggest you try and add a comma, or even better the occasional full stop. No offence.



http://www.bristol.ac.uk/arts/exercises/grammar/grammar_tutorial/page_55.htm

simbas



Joined: 16/07/2007
Posts: 5943

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 14:28

Hi Gates , i have no knowledge of this , there would have been the name of the moderator who banned you along with the reason

Simbas

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 15:09

gates

Ref. message 62.

I ,and along with a lot of others, are wondering what you are trying to put across in your posting. I see no evidence of you being banned.

And I am trying to make sense of your posting about the following:



'can you believe it there is a mediator or was i dont know if still here that is in this country on a 90 day visa as he has no money no transport works ilegaly if he was not living with his girl friend he would have to go home does this make a good mediator suppose il get band again now dont you find it rediculas to get band trying to ask a simple question amazed me'



Sorry but I can make no sense of the above.

AJ

Baspinar Bob


Joined: 15/02/2008
Posts: 618

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 15:22

AlsancakJack

Neither can i , parish the thought.



Bob.

Baspinar Bob


Joined: 15/02/2008
Posts: 618

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 15:24

Sorry ,that should read perish.



Bob.

Jeannie


Joined: 04/08/2009
Posts: 3283

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 15:26

There was a message on here yesterday, posted by Gates, enquiring about the dates for Easter for this year. I have to agree with him - it seems to have disappeared without trace???



Jean

gates


Joined: 08/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 15:45

i was banned for this and could not post this morning i dont want to name the mediator that i know is working ilegaly who did ban me last year but that is not the issue why was i baned pahaps you knew i was enquiring as my daughter wants to book to come out but not at easter rush i have seen a lot of people asking simler question have we got to look at every rule before we post and if you cant find who did it then there must be sombody aiming at me

Harold2555



Joined: 19/04/2008
Posts: 1139

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 16:08

Gates



I have sent you an email, but rest assurred, asking about the dates of Easter is not against the forum rules! so apologies for any misunderstanding.



Please answer my email so we can get to the bottom of this mystery.





Harold2555

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 16:48

I am just wondering if the "disappeared" post was really posted under another thread or even to make it worse on another forum. Just a thought.

ismet

gates


Joined: 08/12/2008
Posts: 1096

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 16:59

ismet i do not post on any other than here and sombody else did see it i know they know why dont they own up or is it the ussual ilegal hope so now we will all know but when found will it be shown ?

Lemtich



Joined: 15/02/2007
Posts: 1487

Message Posted:
10/01/2010 23:59

Re Message 58.



Yep, You're right, she gave me £10,000 and a home in North Cyprus in exchange for a £300,000 UK house, albeit with a £95000 mortgage. North Cyprus won it over for me, that and finding a life.



Skint or not. They say, be careful what you wish for, those who God wishs to punish, he answers their prayers. I don't think the jury is out on this one yet.



I'm better now than I've been in years, the stress has drained away, things have moved forward, I have my new place in the UK now, its very like my Alsancak apartment, only smaller.



Lem

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
11/01/2010 08:38

Hi Lem I hope all goes well for you now. I look forward to seeing you xxx