Vegetarianism............

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
15/01/2010 18:17

Most of us eat meat, although some eat much more than others. Almost all of this meat is the flesh of domesticated livestock - animals born and raised on farms to be killed and sold for their meat.



Should I become a vegetarian? Is it wrong to eat meat?

smithy


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Message Posted:
15/01/2010 18:18

I would love to, always said that I would change cut down a lot in the last year so i think I could do

rowlo



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Message Posted:
15/01/2010 19:32

you need meat in some form for a balanced diet .

sloan



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Message Posted:
15/01/2010 19:56

I have been vegetarian since the last big foot and mouth outbreak in UK (2001) and have not found it difficult. As well as reducing the necessity for so much cruel factory farming, it is environmentally friendly as farm animals add a lot to greenhouse gases in the atmosphere because of their flatulence, it will help with prblems of world food supply in the future and on a more personal level, could lead to longevity in the developed world:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6710896/Vegetarian-low-protein-diet-could-be-key-to-long-life.html



As Ghandi said "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."

racoonchic



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Message Posted:
15/01/2010 20:51

i wonder sometimes as well but i cant go a day without meat salads healthy but meat makes you wealthy or overwieght lol

BoTanica


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Message Posted:
15/01/2010 21:08

Our teeth and metabolism show that we are omnivors (meat and veg eaters) I ike meat - so does my carnivor (meat eater) dog. What I ask is, what will happen to all the cows, sheep, pigs and goats, chickens and Turkeys etc etc if the world turned veggie? And the meat eater animals we are supposed to adore - our dogs and cats, are we happy to see them die off as well? ? I say NO, never will turn vegetarian! And if you "turn" for ethical reasons, how the hell do you sanctify the mass murder and possible extiction of all of the above animals ? We will be competing for "grazing" areas???

Albert5



Joined: 19/12/2009
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Message Posted:
15/01/2010 21:57

Ok guys, here we go:



Really depends on each one's body, but I would say that the majority of the population can't survive easily being strictly vegetarian. I was vegetarian for 6 months and I finished dreaming with hamburgers. Although I was having a balanced diet, it was so hard to me to get up in the morning, I felt tired and old (and I wasn't old at all). So, I think it's good to eat less meat, but it's better (in general) not to go to the extreme. You can try for a couple of months and see how your body reacts.



Fot "BoTanica": they made a research about that and they got the conclusion that, with the vegetarian food that is used to feed all the farm animals only in the USA, would be possible to stop the starvation in the world.



"I like the animals, this is why I eat them"

my wife

BoTanica


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Message Posted:
15/01/2010 22:26

Albert 5 :

Thank you - we are sort of on the same lines - BUT, what happens to all the animals? do we let them loose? where do they eat, where do they go? Cows give milk because they give they give birth - same as women, so, on the veggie diet we don't drink milk? Is there enough land for them and us, if we are all on the same diet ?And do we kill every carnivor on the planet? No more Tigers, Lions, etc etc? I am NOT putting my carnivor dog on a veggie diet for love nor money - nor wil I condone that we put to sleep all our canine/feline friends either!!! I have read - online that there is NOT enough land to feed the planet on a veggie only diet............

Albert5



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Message Posted:
15/01/2010 23:41

Well, probably we must just to find a balance: not to be vegetarian, neither eat meat every day.

Lilli



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Message Posted:
16/01/2010 00:01

Strangely enough i was brought up on an irish diet potaTOES. I live on them to this day. I haVE TO HAve meat for my blood it sems. I could quite easily be a vegatarian. I love veggies all sorts. When I was denined yeast wheat and dairy products, what could i live on only meat. I hated it so ate crisps. ok went from size 8 to size 4. I do now try to incorparate meat into my diet but i do find it difficult unless its a bacon sarnie xxx

BoTanica


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Message Posted:
16/01/2010 00:27

and who is going to cull all our grazing friends? come on??? the stupid lazy cows?(no more milk once they are all dead) no more yoghurt, pork, chickens or eggs? Yeah, great - a veggie DEAD planet - lovely!! what do we do with all the eatable animals? answers pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee ???????????????

Lilli



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Message Posted:
16/01/2010 00:37

Bo I cant give you one I agree as i always have done. We all need them but diets in some p[eople should not eat the red meat. Tonight we had foie gras and veal. well thats a turn off for me but it was requested also calves liver a 6 month old I dohave to question it all.Im not a VEGGIE but could be because of my upbringing we couldnt afford meat in irelaqnd in those days xx

karakum5c



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Message Posted:
16/01/2010 00:50

If we didnt eat animals they wouldnt be alive in the first place.



If you love animals eat more meat so farmers can breed more.



Love animals EAT MEAT !

BoTanica


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Message Posted:
16/01/2010 01:06

Ok lilli I am also an Irish girl. I don't agree with force feeding geece for foie gras and keeping calves in the dark to have ultra white veal. I was brought up on pork, cabbage and potatoes.............

Tinkie


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Message Posted:
16/01/2010 07:36

Have I missed something? The question was could you be a Vegetarian, not the whole planet..so Im not sure why you are waffling on about culling the worlds entire population of livestock?. Being a vegetarian is a personal choice, I became a Vegetarian 10 years ago for 'ethical reasons' as Botanica put it. My husband is a meat eater and so are all of my dogs and cats, I certainly do not try to choke people with my own beliefs. However you can make the choice without having to cull every cow on the planet...Im not sure if I have ever heard such a weak aguement on staying a carnivor, keep telling yourself that you are doing the animals a favour by slaughtering them to satisfy your appetite, heaven forbid that the planet is over run by cows or sheep!

booitsme


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Message Posted:
16/01/2010 11:00

Well said Tinkie - to me being vegetarian in a personal choice (same as religion) and yes, my husband does eat meat. I've been veggie since I was 16 (aaarrrrggghh that's 30 years now!) but don't pontificate on the subject. If I have guests for dinner I will cook whichever I feel like making - meat or veggie. So far I haven't had any friends turn their nose up at eating veggie food which is just as interesting and tasty. So, in answer to your question No1doyen - only you can make your mind up how you really feel about this issue and if you want any help/advice on recipes etc I'm sure there are plenty of us out here who will help without the added lecture.

davedee



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Message Posted:
16/01/2010 13:24

My wife is a veggie,some 23 years and still searching for a cure.

Tenakoutou



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Message Posted:
17/01/2010 13:18

No 1 Doyen:



If you, or any human, were meant to be veggies or vegans, you'd have been born with a mouthful of teeth like a sheep!

moxie


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Message Posted:
31/01/2010 18:40

Think you may like to know that the oldest discovered human skull was that of a vegetarian, we elvolved into meat eaters, which is still highly undigestable in our sytems, maybe Tenakotou, if we were meant to be meat eaters we would have been born with a mouthful of teeth like a dog!!



So no1Doyen you dont need it, but do you want it??

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
31/01/2010 18:56

you know for your blood type you need meat. i, am reg nevative group o it seems to be the rarest in the world. I was forced feed liver when I had my first daughter 43 years ago (she will kil me) because i could not take iron for some reason. If you read the book on the blood group diet i should eat meat every day. I tried to live by it no processed meat ham bacan sausage etc, parma ok salami ok why they are processed. now i pick and chooose

moxie


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Message Posted:
31/01/2010 19:41

this is so funny Lilli, as i have just replied to your other doggie issue...Me too, same blood group, made to pop iron tabs from age 6..stopped tablets age 16

Veggie for 31 yrs, and im fit n healthy. x

Tootie


Joined: 28/08/2008
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Message Posted:
31/01/2010 19:56

I'll only eat anything that walks on the ground and not grows out of it.



Msg 11 >what do we do with all the eatable animals? answers pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee ???????????????



I'll eat them

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
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Message Posted:
31/01/2010 19:59

moxie i am fit but full of flue so not sure im healthy. i have had this for over a week, i cant shift it. You knowin uk I never had cold. 20 years on i get the flu but then we allhave to give into that bloody pig

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Lilli



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Message Posted:
31/01/2010 20:05

moxie where have you replied please as i cant find it. please beleive me i only caRE XXXXXXXXXX

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
31/01/2010 20:56

Lots of good responses. I'm going to eat less meat from now on. It's fish for me in future.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
31/01/2010 20:57

Just a thought - can too much fish be bad for you?

YeniTom


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Message Posted:
31/01/2010 21:04

You end up with a 30 second memory.



You end up with a 30 second memory.

sloan



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Message Posted:
31/01/2010 21:45

Have you seen the Meatless Monday campaign?



http://www.meatlessmonday.com/