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the butler


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18/01/2010 12:37

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Hi all,



Some of the water pipes on our site keep bursting and instead of us keeping on repairing them, we have decided it will be more cost effective to replace them with new ones. All the pipes are underground and they feed the domestic water to several properties. Who would you recommend for this kind of work?





The butlers wife



Chegwin


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18/01/2010 12:53

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Letís hope it doesnít turn out too bad and that you get a reliable company.

There must be some folk who have had a large system replaced and it is now satisfactory.



Plumbers Poker.

A good flush beats a full house every time.



Chegwin



Geoff1131MK11


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18/01/2010 13:55

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Have your maintenance company investigated what is causing the problem? Most of the underground pipework used here is alkathene ( black plastic pipe ) and it would be unusual for this to ' burst ' with normal water pressure. If its just some of the joints that have not been made properly, it would be a lot cheaper to just dig up where the leak is and repair it. It would be a mamoth task now to replace all the water mains.



TRNCVaughan


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18/01/2010 14:17

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Give Cyprus Solutions a call on 0533 836 7094. I can recommend them.



Denise


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18/01/2010 14:23

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try sure home services office no 815 0699 or call Yasin on 05338555658



the butler


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18/01/2010 15:08

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Hi Geoff msg3,



In the last 4 years the pipes have burst in several places. We know something is seriously wrong to cause this but we need help in finding out why this is happening. The simple way would be to lay new pipes instead of spending days trying to find out the cause and patching up the existing pipes. Although our site is of moderate size it is broken up in to 3 seperate areas with their own water system. These pipes only effect one area,and we have not had any problems with the other two areas. It could be something to do with the pressure of the water in the pipes but we really don't know.





The butlers wife



Jovial_John


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18/01/2010 15:48

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As I understand it, the water pipes up to the meter are the responsibility of the local authority. We had this problem 2 years ago and after several DIY repairs we went to Karsiyaka muktah to ask advice. He sent his people and they repaired the pipe 2 or 3 times and then gave up and replaced everything.There was no cost to us.



Geoff1131MK11


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18/01/2010 15:57

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Hi Tbw, get your maintenance co to check what pressure they are getting at the water distribution pump. It should be no more than 3-4 bar ( approx 45-60 psi ) then the pressure switch should be cutting the pump off. If all is well here it maybe that the pipe will have to be replaced, but as i said drastic action.



AlsancakJack



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18/01/2010 16:02

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I concur with Jovial John

Any problems with the pipes up to water meter are the responsibility of the Belideye and you should contact them immediately. Any problems after the meter and it is the builders/site managements problem.

AJ



gates


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18/01/2010 16:28

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give us a shout http://www.braceybuilders.com



japeal



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18/01/2010 16:32

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We had similar problems on our site, numerous leaks from joints. Finally builders solved it by putting some sort of pressure reducer where water arrived on site. Would suggest turning down the water coming onto site if that solves problem then you may need the same fix as we had.



coffer


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Hi not sure where you live but assuming you are on mains, in Esentepe for instance anything out side the gate is council responsibility. If you start messing around with pipes they will hold you responsible for any damage. Our builder originally put in plastic pipes which in the winter when the pressure is cranked up burst all over the place. In the end we paid the council to replace them with metal pipes. Not expensive around £100 per villa I think.



Navek



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18/01/2010 17:08

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Hi the butlers wife,

As coffer says, get the council in, cheap, and the job done the way it should be.

No problems since

Navek



the butler


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18/01/2010 17:44

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Hi all,



Our site is not on mains water. all the water is brought in by tanker which we pay for. I do know that we are wholly responsible for these pipes. As we run a fund managed site, we the owners are responsible for the upkeep of the site and will be responsible for paying for any repairs or replacements



The butlers wife



the butler


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Hi all,



I would like to explain a little more about how our water system works. although we do not have mains water, we do not have individual tanks of our own. We have three seperate large underground water tanks on the site. As mentioned previously the site is divided into three areas and it only one of the areas that is having problems. All the properties have their own water meters which are fed from the underground tanks. It is the pipes from the tanks to the individual properties that are leaking badly. We have checked the pressure but that appears to be alright now.





The butlers wife



Geoff1131MK11


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18/01/2010 22:07

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Hi again, do you have a plan or drawing showing where the water main runs? if you do does it have valves so that sections can be isolated? if not then the first thing to do is have valves put in so that small sections of the service line can be tested to find out where the leaks are. Then test each section in turn, starting with the first line from the pumproom, and then open the next section until you find where the line is leaking. You could have several small leaks that you assume to be one big one. Its time consuming but not hard to do.



the butler


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18/01/2010 23:10

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Hi Geoff,



You are being really helpful and I thank you for your time. I am a female, so am not sure of the answer to your question but I will try and find out and post tomorrow.





The butlers wife



Geoff1131MK11


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Hi there, if there is someone on your site i could go to see. I live in Bahceli just down the road so it would be no problem to talk to someone and try to help.



Chegwin


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19/01/2010 07:49

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TBW

Seems like a winner if Geoff would kindly pop down and have a look.

Maybe you coud liaise with someone to meet with him to discuss further.

This is an example of 44 working well.



Chegwin



Inci53


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19/01/2010 11:27

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Hi Geoff



My name is Sayman (pronounced Simon) and my company First Consult Cyprus maintain the site in question.



I would greatly appreciate it if you would be kind enough to drop in on site to have a look as this is becoming a major problem.



If you would be willing to do this, could you please give me a call on 05338694463. Alternativley if you give me your number I can contact you.



Many thanks in advance

Sayman



the butler


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20/02/2010 18:44

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Hi Geoff,





I wonder if you could contact me off board please, concerning the water pipes.





The butlers wife



sporty


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Message Posted:
20/02/2010 18:59

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all alkathine pipes should be laid in sand and covered over with sand before backfilling,if theyve just backfilled with a digger with any old material straight on the pipes,stones etc will cause a weakening of the pipe,it may not be the joints.



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