Inequality and Discrimination

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 10:09

Could someone please explain to me the following-

A Turkish Cypriot holding either a European/British passport can enter the United Kingdom, buy a house, start a business get a job and avail him/herself of all the benefits of the UK (after the statuary time has evolved)

But British citizens have to apply for residency, get permission to buy a house, get a business permit (after of course finding a not inconsiderate sum for a bond)and never receive any benefits.

Now to me that isn't playing fair!!!

Now I am waiting for the reply from one particular contributor to the board, to offer a ride to the Airport.

Mr Vince


Joined: 24/07/2008
Posts: 696

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 10:19

Them's the rules Mr Hippo. They may not be fair but they are the rules. Just because the UK accepts anyone with open arms does not make it right and or a policy that should be adopted elsewhere. We chose to live here. Most other countries in the world have their rules and restrictions which control immigration.

BigMart


Joined: 26/02/2009
Posts: 423

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 10:19

Hippo,



Totaly agree with you, never have I come accross such a hypocritical place as this, as for equality, they don't know the meaning of the word !



Now lets both of us stand by for the ' If you don't like it you know what you can do' comments.

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 10:23

Hippo,



You are mixing up the fact that because a TC can have dual nationality (ie UK and TC) in the UK he is considered to be a UK subject, whereas an "ethnic" UK citizen in TRNC enjoys no similar dual identity. The UK authorities are not making any concessions to the TC, as they consider him to be British, which he is. Similarly, Brits here who have kimlik cards are treated (officially) as TCs.

guidosp1


Joined: 30/12/2008
Posts: 341

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 10:29

hippo totaly agree with you. you forgot to say that if a tc was born in the south, claims a gc card and is intitle to free hospital care and a pension even if he/she has never worked or paid any social funds in the south!!. they really have the best of both worlds... incredible!!

guido

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 11:33

No I'm not Vaughn the Pearson can have a Cypriot passport (European)

Vidal


Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 867

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 11:50

Hang on, just about everyone agrees that because the UK welcomes all, not just TC's, thats why the country is in the state it is, which is why we came here.



So if the free and easy way of the UK was to be replicated here, what then.



Its because the rules are strict that the TRNC is so special.

Surely you research before you came here? You accepted the way then so why moan now you are here??



If you didn't find out before you came..well you have no room to complain now.

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 12:08

Basically what is happening here are restrictive practices.

AlsancakJack



Joined: 14/08/2008
Posts: 5762

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 12:13

Hipps



' Basically what is happening here are restrictive practices. '



And why should there not be? The TRNC Government look after their own people first and I applaud them for that. It is a shame other Governments do not do the same.

Vidal


Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 867

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 12:19

Exactly AJ



Living in the UK we expect to be given preferential treatment. We generally begrudge our hard earned taxes going towards 'settlers'



So we have come to the TRNC where that does not happen, we cant now complain once we are living here. But we knew that before we came didn't we.

TRNCVaughan


Joined: 27/04/2008
Posts: 4578

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 12:29

Hippo,



For the purposes of this discussion, an RoC passport is an EU passport is a UK passport. Samey, samey.

In the UK a person with a "Cypriot" (RoC) passport would be treated as equally as any other EU passport holder. Within the EU there is generally no discrimination between citizens, other than where there are abrogations. The same situation does not exist in TRNC as it is not yet fully an EU (proper) country.

You are comparing apples with pears.

dutty


Joined: 09/06/2009
Posts: 75

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 12:45

It would be interesting to know if any uk citizen has tried to set a business in any other EU country and how easy/hard it was. As i have heard that although legally you can set a business up other EU authorities make it far more difficult than the UK

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 12:48

Treat others as you would expect others to treat you



This may be a good point to start.



If the TC community in the UK where to be treated in the same way as the Expat community is treated here then submission to the court of human rights would soon be made.

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 12:50

agree Hippo 100%

Vidal


Joined: 14/05/2009
Posts: 867

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 12:52

Its not all sunshine and roses being a TC in the UK rest assured Hippo.

Hippo


Joined: 02/02/2007
Posts: 2070

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 13:16

Please elaborate Vidal?

girne 29


Joined: 06/12/2007
Posts: 1488

Message Posted:
19/01/2010 13:29

AJ.

"It is a shame other Governments do not do the same."

They cant, if they are in the EU, discrimination is illegal. TRNC is not in EU and unless it does join ,does not have to accept those laws .Something that those Iin NC who want into the EU should think about if wanting things to stay the same. NC would have to consider if complying with those laws, which can be expensive, is outweighed by financial benifits of being in EU.



Vidal.

Message 10. Did "we" really come to NC to escape paying taxes towards 'settlers'. I am sure if I quantified it , a tiny percentage of our taxes went there.Seems like a lot of bother for very little saving. If you mean "we" came to avoid paying taxes in general then that would be a worthwhile saving,but I would be carefull with the "we".



"Living in the UK we expect to be given preferential treatment",

Why are you saying "we" expect preferential treatment. What preferential treatment?.Do you not mean similar treatment.