What question would you ask Blair?

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 10:33

Did you cover up advice that the war might be illegal?





That would be mine.

kibrissibel


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 10:42

Every lawyer in the Foreign Office agreed that the invasion would be illegal, so why is it acceptable for UK/USA to invade when it's not acceptable for Turkey to intervene in Cyprus in 1974?

simbas



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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 10:46

Was he of sound mind when he made his decision !

Simbas

Corbo



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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 11:09

I would ask him why he has not helped Burma which is more repressed than Iraq was and the population would welcome the cowardly regime being ousted. Did they go for Iraq because it was a soft target and had oil? Burma involvement would involve a Chinese backlash. How does he think he will be remembered in 100 years for this invasion?

sporty


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 11:19

how come your missus failed in the orams case then!!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 11:27

sporty....:00 :00

TRNCVaughan


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 11:33

Who won the FA Cup in 1924? What is the capital of Peru?

deecyprus4


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 11:43

I think we have gone into a few wars illegally, Kosovo is a glowing example, however, what TB did was LIE to his cabinet and the whole country about the 45 minute claim on the WMD. He had decided to go to war with GWB long before.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 16:18

Vaughan, that's two questions. )

Lilli



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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 16:22

Just watching it on BBC news they are being quite gentle on him, he beleives without doubt that there was wmds , he claims he had the backing of the UN and EU, he claims Bush did not influnence him. oh the lies

rowlo



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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 16:43

did you go because gwb told you to ?

Lilli



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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 16:43

now he says given the option again he would make the same choice x

Corbo



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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 16:57

Yes..he's a crafty old fox and sticks to his guns. He could do with a few more hard pertinent questions.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 17:01

When you tell yourself that you are telling the truth then you can tell others you're telling the truth and believe it.



Does that make sense?

Troodo


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 17:02

Was saving the Marsh Arabs from genocide particularly satisfying?

Corbo



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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 17:03

It does and I think you're right. He's convinced himself even if he once had doubts. Maybe Cherie hypnotised him as they lay in their jacuzi.

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 17:04

Blair " My ultimate judgement was that Saddam was a threat"



So are many other world leaders but you can't go around attacking them!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 17:17

Corbo - "Maybe Cherie hypnotised him as they lay in their jacuzi.."



Perish the thought! That's actually made me feel quite nauseas. )

Vidal


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 17:45

Message14



No 1.

Thats the mantra for the 'Cyprus forum' me thinks!!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
29/01/2010 18:02

Blair has said - "I did not regard 9/11 as an attack on America, it was an attack on Britain too"

spudlov


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Message Posted:
30/01/2010 00:23

I would ask him "How could you do such a thing to a nice guy like mass murderer of his own people, Saddam Hussain?"

Oleander


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Message Posted:
30/01/2010 00:54

Kibriss - Turkey was acting 'within its rights as a guarantee power' when it 'intervened' under the Treaty of Guarantee. The problem was what happened afterwards. Any intervention was supposed to be to restore the status quo but quite the opposite happened. The GCs were expelled and the island split in two. The rest is history.



I think one of the problems here is that almost every member just looks at the Cyprus problem from the point of view of how it might affect the bargain property they bought. Not from any other POV.

littlejohn


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Message Posted:
30/01/2010 02:59

I remember well the lead up to the Iraq "war" where the majority of Brits in my locality were in favour of "topping Saddam"- particularly the daily mail readers who are now "with hindsight" looking for a scapegoat.

I was accused of being a soft leftie when I voiced my objections in my local at the time.

Whatever the truth may be, many innocent Iraq citizens have perished - men, women and children not to mention British soldiers and airmen - who will, of course, always be at the mercy of corrupt politicians and halfwitted countrymen.

It was the same in Aden all those years ago and now that area seems to be "causing problems" again.

You are all living ( or holidaying) in a country which has also suffered from British actions (or indifference) where we should have stamped on Makarious and his henchmen many years ago but neither the Brits nor the UN had the balls to step in and stop the Greeks.

I was in Limassol in 69 and witnessed how the Turks were treated as second class citizens

Rottolover



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Message Posted:
30/01/2010 06:12

Oleander, It was the "staus quo" that was the problem. Only the GCs wanted that back. Everyone else wanted a peaceful existence.



Which we've had now for 35 years and counting.



That's the POV that interests me...

Corbo



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Message Posted:
30/01/2010 07:20

Yes Little john I was also pro the idea of going in to topple Saddam at the time and I'm no Daily Mail reader. Blair convinced me by his rhetoric about WMD and the imminent danger. I cannot forgive him for this as it was clearly spin, and spin with many people's lives at stake is criminal. Blair is a statesman who timed his exit perfectly and still stands head and shoulders above any current UK top politician; which isn't saying much as these are the weakest gutless bunch I have seen in my life time. Someone like John Smith towers above any of them in stature.

Tenakoutou



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Message Posted:
30/01/2010 08:49

It was speculated that the Germans had sold, or supplied, Saddam with 'mustard gas' - as used in the 1914-1918 war and he had used this against Iran in the Iran/Iraq conflict, in the south and against the Kurds in the north. An Italian journalist showed me a film of the results of this, at a hotel in Limassol - shocking. There was a mile, or more, of (Iranian soldiers and civilians) young and old men trudging up a mountain track, holding on to one another like a line of elephants, trunk to tail. He showed me other clips from that conflict and they were reminiscent of the carnage of the First World war, only worse, because they were in 'high definition' colour - indescribably sickening.



However, my question to Tony Blair would be: You have stated that: 'Had you left Saddam in power, and with the failure of sanctions, he would surely have attempted to develop nuclear weapons in order to keep up with Iran.' So might Osama Bin Laden, or any numbers of despots. So are you admitting

Tenakoutou



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Message Posted:
30/01/2010 08:54

Msg 26 Continued: So, are you admitting that your decision to invade Iraq was based on your pure hypothesis of what might happen, because you had already been informed that WMD's appeared to be non-existent?

Tenakoutou



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Message Posted:
30/01/2010 08:59

With ref. to Msg 25:



'There was a mile, or more, of (Iranian soldiers and civilians) young and old men trudging up a mountain track, holding on to one another like a line of elephants, trunk to tail....'



I omitted to mention that these people were all blinded from the exposure to 'mustard gas' - one can only imagine the horrendous suffering and death caused to so many other poor souls.

jacktheladett


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Message Posted:
30/01/2010 10:21

What attracted you to Cherie?

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
30/01/2010 10:31

Jack. Mess 29. ) )

cyprusgiant


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Message Posted:
30/01/2010 16:38

Was Gearge Bush identified as the weapan of mass destruction?

Sandcastle


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Message Posted:
30/01/2010 19:21

If one of his kids were in the forces, would he still have sent us there?

nilmoney


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Message Posted:
30/01/2010 21:01

Loved that made me laugh

Tenakoutou



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Message Posted:
31/01/2010 10:36

'Are you receiving any 'kick-backs' from the arms dealers, Tony?'