title deeds petition

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
06/06/2008 10:50

Everyone who has purchased here, or are thinking of purchasing here need to sign this. Without amendment of the law we may never get our title deeds. I believe this will give the TRNC construction industry and economy a much needed boost by protecting present and future purchasers. It's no good sitting in our armchairs hoping that everyone else will do something for us. We all need to stand up together and take joint positive action. It affects all of us. We have to start taking action together! Please sign this petition as soon as you can.



http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/peti ... index.html



Sibel

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
06/06/2008 10:56

For some reason the link is not working. If you look at this topic, you can access the link from the bottom posting on page 1 heading: TRNC PM answers property issues and problems



Performance Law. I believe the time is right. Please have a look at http://trncvillaowners.phpbb3now.com/viewtopic

Chris


Joined: 26/03/2008
Posts: 454

Message Posted:
06/06/2008 15:45

The link has been cut in half thats why it doesnt work, could you repost the link please

Chris

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
06/06/2008 17:43

Hopefully this will work!



http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/petitioncyprus/index.html

Chris


Joined: 26/03/2008
Posts: 454

Message Posted:
06/06/2008 18:24

Its working now, thanks and I have signed

Chris

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
06/06/2008 23:10

Why does it say "6 years" I was told it can take up to 2 years Anyway,

it is most important to get them as my local friend told me (and he's from a

top family in N.Cyprus) Personally, I think it's a lot of nonsense. We get our

title deeds when we pay for our property backhome.

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
06/06/2008 23:15

Nah!



Can't be bothered!



Just joking........Very Very Important...............sign it NOW!!



wynyardman

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
08/06/2008 11:05

Hi moderators - can you let me know why the title of this has been changed? Also, if possible, can you put it back to capitals. This is a very important issue for a lot of people and needs to be eyecatching.

Thanks



Sibel

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
08/06/2008 11:11

Hi All,



THIS IS VITAL! DO IT NOW!



wyn

schnib


Joined: 24/05/2008
Posts: 101

Message Posted:
08/06/2008 14:46

hi all, two more signatures added-hope to see many more names included.



Schnib

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
09/06/2008 21:09

I've signed it honey!



Brad

Pugsey


Joined: 22/03/2008
Posts: 173

Message Posted:
10/06/2008 00:59

2 more signed. Lets hope it works

brighty


Joined: 07/06/2008
Posts: 23

Message Posted:
10/06/2008 10:12

I've signed

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
11/06/2008 19:03

I have spoken to Ian Shepherd from Cyprus Today re this important issue and I hope that he can publicise it in an attempt to raise awareness because until the SP Law is amended, it affects the thousands of us who don't have our title deeds.



Sibel

cocos


Joined: 04/04/2008
Posts: 129

Message Posted:
11/06/2008 20:54

I've signed it. Advise everyone not to buy off plan until this law is changed. That way it will bring the construction business to a halt and force the government to do something

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
11/06/2008 21:39

Cocos,

Very good idea but why for off plan only? You cannot get PTP in less than two months, hence this law must be changed for everyone.

Here is a new motto:

DON'T BUY UNTIL SP LAW IS CHANGED



ismet

bigusdickus


Joined: 12/04/2008
Posts: 5

Message Posted:
12/06/2008 18:22

I signed it. Veyr wise words Ismet. Spread the word, don't buy ANY PROPERTY until this law is changed. It's just not worth risking it. The government are being influenced by the builders and contractors union. If they start feeling thepinch they'll be quick to do something about it. Vote with your feet!

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
12/06/2008 23:07

Elko2



I will drink to that.....



Don't BUY UNTIL SP LAW IS CHANGED>



You know it makes sense........SIGN the petition NOW!



wynyardman

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
12/06/2008 23:48

Wyn,

I changed my signature accordingly on TRNC VO. Please have a look.

ismet

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
12/06/2008 23:54

Ismet,



TRNC VO Where is this?



wyn

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
13/06/2008 01:06

http://trncvillaowners.phpbb3now.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3480

ismet

big d


Joined: 25/06/2007
Posts: 32

Message Posted:
13/06/2008 01:26

HI , IV SIGNED

Inci53


Joined: 08/06/2008
Posts: 61

Message Posted:
14/06/2008 00:19

Hi, I've signed

Incilay



ps; Have a great week-end!

Aussie


Joined: 17/06/2007
Posts: 657

Message Posted:
14/06/2008 00:31

I signed a couple of days ago but forgot to post here.

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 19:22

Thanks to everyone who has signed so far. Please keep your signatures coming.

jock1



Joined: 06/01/2008
Posts: 3786

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 19:52

I went to sign, but somebody has allready done it without my permission!!!!!!!!!!

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 20:35

I think there is a quirk in the system. When you fill in your details and press submit, it displays a page saying internet explorer couldn't display the page or tells you it can't find the page, but it has actually logged your details. Because you think it hasn't filed your info, you try again, and then it tells you your details are already recorded because it did work the first time.



On the petition page, if you go in to "Signatures" and you see that your name has only just gone on. This will confirm it.

suntanman



Joined: 18/04/2007
Posts: 721

Message Posted:
15/06/2008 21:23

Job done

I've signed

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
18/06/2008 21:58

Thanks to everyone who has signed so far.

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
18/06/2008 23:42

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/petitioncyprus/index.html

The count stands at 562 signatures. In my view not enough to make an impact. How else can we explain the importance of this petition?

ismet

Bradus


Joined: 25/02/2007
Posts: 2641

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 00:30

Nearly all the Cyprus forums are mentioning it. Could we get any support from the HBPG so that people accessing it can also petition? Has it had any mention in the media?

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 07:42

hbpg is supporting this petition, see http://www.hbpg-trnc.net/ under "Urgent"

ismet

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 08:07

Noted Elko2,



Well done Ismet. Lets keep pushing this cause. Its in every homebuyers best interests.



wynyardman

lovelife


Joined: 07/07/2007
Posts: 231

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 11:06

I signed this the other day, forgot to post that I had.



LL

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 11:47

Tried to sign several times , still can't ''help''

McSteviet



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1089

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 12:33

I'm having trouble signing this, the website keeps giving errors.



Did notice that "Gary Robb" has signed it though.........



MC

elko2



Joined: 24/07/2007
Posts: 4400

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 13:06

Mcsteviet,

Please use the link in msg.30 and see how it goes.

ismet

Pipie


Joined: 05/01/2008
Posts: 5499

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 13:55

tried again and messege keeps popping up saying ''not recorded''.

wackyjim



Joined: 04/06/2007
Posts: 760

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 14:35

Should have done this sooner...thats it signed now



Jim

Mouse


Joined: 21/05/2008
Posts: 58

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 14:54

have just signed. have a nice day.

Skogsy


Joined: 15/05/2008
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 15:06

When I went to the link, filled the form in and sent it I got this.



* It appears that somebody has already signed this petition with the same information.



There are not two of me and I have not attempted this before.

Anyone got any ideas?



Skogsy

Skogsy


Joined: 15/05/2008
Posts: 339

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 15:13

Sorted. My fault.

It works OK.

Skogs

McSteviet



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1089

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 15:23

I get the same error message, but I did get an email saying it was registered, so I guess it is.



MC

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 19:54

To those of you who have had a problem signing this; please keep trying. I think there is sometimes a quirk in the system. When you fill in your details and press submit, it displays a page saying internet explorer couldn't display the page or tells you it can't find the page, but it has actually logged your details. Because you think it hasn't filed your info, you try again, and then it tells you your details are already recorded because it did work the first time.



On the petition page, if you go in to "Signatures" and you see that your name has only just gone on. This will confirm it.



This petition is supported by HBPG under their URGENT heading this is the link to their page

http://www.hbpg-trnc.net/documents/SPlaw_petition.html



this is the link to the petition:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/petitioncyprus/index.html



PLEASE KEEP THE SIGNATURES COMING - THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH TO MAKE AN IMPACT.



Sibel

rayz1


Joined: 22/03/2008
Posts: 65

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 21:13

Have just signed chaps tried to sign wifes name as well but it wouldnt take it rayza

rayz1


Joined: 22/03/2008
Posts: 65

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 21:23

Is there any way I can sign my wifes name or is it the case of one name per household rayza

Chris


Joined: 26/03/2008
Posts: 454

Message Posted:
19/06/2008 22:27

Its probably because you both have the same e-mail address??



Chris

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
20/06/2008 00:55

Have tried to sign but can't get on to site. We should get our title deeds with

our payment for property as we do here. What is the problem? Why do we have to wait up to 2 years or more?

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
20/06/2008 13:20

Rayz - you can only use one email address per person.



phylray - please keep trying. We needs as many names asap.



Thanks

Sibel

rayz1


Joined: 22/03/2008
Posts: 65

Message Posted:
20/06/2008 17:00

Thats what I meant when I said household Ime still learning rayza

spudlov


Joined: 15/02/2008
Posts: 100

Message Posted:
20/06/2008 19:26

just signed, martin

witchfinder



Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 155

Message Posted:
20/06/2008 22:58

signed up as well, and the missus with her e-mail addy

norma jean



Joined: 29/05/2008
Posts: 191

Message Posted:
20/06/2008 23:20

All signed up.

robbo


Joined: 30/01/2008
Posts: 27

Message Posted:
21/06/2008 00:01

Just signed

larry f


Joined: 29/01/2008
Posts: 116

Message Posted:
21/06/2008 02:16

Hi All



I cant seem to sign. It keeps coming back saying someone else has already signed using my email address. and I've tried 3 different email address's. Has this happened to anyone else?



Theresa

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
21/06/2008 17:19

Larry f - if you check the "signatures" you will find that you are on there.



Please have a look at this weeks Cyprus Today who have publicised this very important issue. Please keep the signatures coming.



Sibel

suntanman



Joined: 18/04/2007
Posts: 721

Message Posted:
21/06/2008 17:33

Signed again on behalf of Mrs suntanman, using another email address.



Izzet, is it possible to keep this thread at the top?

Chris


Joined: 26/03/2008
Posts: 454

Message Posted:
21/06/2008 17:55

Ive signed on behalf of all of my family who want to visit me, if and when I get the villa!!

They all have e-mail addresses



Chris

larry f


Joined: 29/01/2008
Posts: 116

Message Posted:
21/06/2008 23:16

Thanks Sibel,



I received an email today from "ipetitions" thanking me for signing.



Theresa

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
22/06/2008 09:10

Hi All,



Please make sure......



That you sign the petition for the ammendment to.......



THE SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE LAW of 1885..............



If you want to make sure that you get your cochan (DEEDS) to your home!!



wyn

Rogerdodger


Joined: 24/04/2008
Posts: 271

Message Posted:
22/06/2008 19:01

Signed the petition today, got confermation email from pettions as well

McSteviet



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1089

Message Posted:
22/06/2008 22:50

All,



When you sign this, DO NOT sign this on all the families behalf, as I suspect it will only count as one signiture.



Get all the family to sign it individually to get maximum benefit and get the numbers up.



MC

McSteviet



Joined: 11/05/2007
Posts: 1089

Message Posted:
22/06/2008 22:52

637 at the moment.



Still not enough......



MC

newlad



Joined: 02/03/2008
Posts: 7819

Message Posted:
22/06/2008 22:53

Steve,

Sound advice as usual mate we have all signed and had it confirmed,



Paul.

Susie


Joined: 06/06/2007
Posts: 87

Message Posted:
22/06/2008 23:17

two more signatures.......

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
23/06/2008 08:47

Have you signed the petition to amend the Specific Performance Law?



Without a change in this law, it means you cannot take action against your vendor to compel them to transfer the title deeds to you. Thus some unscrupulous developers are not adhering to their side of the contract and are not willing to transfer the deeds to the buyers, using this a leveridge to extract extra funds from purchasers.



Please see this weeks edition of Cyprus Today (June 21-27), who are covering this very important issue.



The petition was started some time ago by Ismet Ustuner, a very helpful and knowledgeable member of this board where legal matters are concerned. The petition is backed by the HBPG.



This is the link to the petition:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/petitioncyprus/index.html



Sibel

cocos


Joined: 04/04/2008
Posts: 129

Message Posted:
23/06/2008 20:19

Another signature for you. It is still a pretty poor show of signatures so far.

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
24/06/2008 10:53

Hi for those of you withut access to Cyprus Today, you can read the article on the link below from the HBPG website:



http://www.hbpg-trnc.net/documents/Pres ... ition.html

kavenkoy


Joined: 10/04/2008
Posts: 1787

Message Posted:
24/06/2008 19:34

i dont know how you sign this ,have tried several times.



can complete then says unable to record signature etc



kav ?

Nunu1


Joined: 31/03/2008
Posts: 536

Message Posted:
24/06/2008 19:58

Kibrissibel. Can I make a suggestion, why not put a petition form in every bar and restuarant in NC? Obviously you would have to obtain the owners permission...that way you are going to get more of a chance to get people to sign.



In addition, every owner or potential owner write direct to Mr Talat the main Man? Does anybody have His address?



nunu

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
25/06/2008 17:57

Hi Nunu



I think it is better to have a central place for signatures, that way we can see how many signatures we are getting. It would also take weeks to go round all establishments etc and time is of the essence. But it's not my descision to make as I didn't start this petition; I'm just trying to raise awareness of it.



It is hard enough to get people to sign this petition, let alone get them to write a letter to Talat as well. If we can get enough signatures, this petition will be presented to him.



Please keep the signatures coming.





Sibel

Susie


Joined: 06/06/2007
Posts: 87

Message Posted:
27/06/2008 00:33

cyprus 44 has almost 2000 members......how come petition has only about 700? Please encourage everyone to sign.

Tiggy


Joined: 25/07/2007
Posts: 1994

Message Posted:
27/06/2008 00:40

Sorry,



signed a couple of weeks ago and forgot to update you all.



Keep em coming.



T.

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
27/06/2008 11:40

Susie - I do not understand either. If people are worried, they can sign the petition anonymously. People also have to consider what will happen if their vendor dies without transferring the title to the buyer. In this case the property will become part of the estate and will be dealt with by probate. This can cause even more problems and headaches for people, especially if the vendor has debts.



There are not enough signatures to cause an impact.



There are reputable lawyers and builders/developers here but the bad ones are pulling the good ones down with them. If the Specific Performance Law was changed and the KDV was payable direct to the tax office, then it is a win-win situation for everyone. The buyer gets their title deeds, the tax office and government get their money and the developers deliver what they contractually promised.





Without a change in this law, it means you cannot take action against your vendor to compel them to transfer the title deeds to you. Thus some unscrupulous developers are not adhering to their side of the contract and are not willing to transfer the deeds to the buyers, using this a leveridge to extract extra funds from purchasers.





Please see this weeks edition of Cyprus Today (June 21-27), who are covering this very important issue.



The petition was started some time ago by Ismet Ustuner, a very helpful and knowledgeable member of this board where legal matters are concerned. The petition is backed by the HBPG.





This is the link to the petition:



http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/peti ... index.html





Sibel

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
27/06/2008 12:10

Sibel



I went in to the link but did not go directly to the petition. What should I put in the search?

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
27/06/2008 12:13

There are nearly 2000 members on here, but it would be interesting to know how many memberships are active. I suspect well over half, if not more are inactive and have been for some time. Izzet do you have the stats mate?

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
27/06/2008 12:40

ilovecyprus - try this

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/petitioncyprus/index.html



thanks

ilovecyprus


Joined: 08/05/2007
Posts: 2880

Message Posted:
27/06/2008 19:13

Have Signed

kibrissibel


Joined: 18/02/2008
Posts: 562

Message Posted:
16/07/2008 20:56

Have you signed the petition to amend the Specific Performance Law? There are only 785 names on it. It is not enough!!!!







Without a change in this law, it means you cannot take action against your vendor to compel them to transfer the title deeds to you. Thus some unscrupulous developers are not adhering to their side of the contract and are not willing to transfer the deeds to the buyers, using this a leveridge to extract extra funds from purchasers.





For those of you withut access to Cyprus Today, you can read the article on the link below from the HBPG website:







http://www.hbpg-trnc.net/documents/Pres ... ition.html





The petition was started some time ago by Ismet Ustuner, a very helpful and knowledgeable member of this board where legal matters are concerned. The petition is backed by the HBPG.







This is the link to the petition:



http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/petitioncyprus/index.html







Sibel

DutchCrusader



Joined: 19/05/2008
Posts: 11281

Message Posted:
16/07/2008 21:31

Sibel, there's an easy way to make long URL's short. Example: the URL you provide has 60 letters and may break in email and/or postings on bulletin boards:



http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/petitioncyprus/index.html



Now try the link below:



http://tinyurl.com/5spyhx

wynyardman



Joined: 15/12/2007
Posts: 4580

Message Posted:
16/07/2008 21:40

Sibel,



Your battle is just, and your advise is sound.



SIGN THE PETITION.



DO NOT buy offplan until The Government of The TRNC agree to ammend The Specific Performance Law of 1885.



Sibel you deserve more support. People that ignore your advise today, will be the wingeing

Brits of tomorrow. You can only tell them!



wyn

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
16/07/2008 22:59

Have just signed. Had problems before & even now it's teling me error, so

hope it goes through.

stevie-d



Joined: 13/07/2007
Posts: 1420

Message Posted:
01/08/2008 12:57

Just signed, thought i`d bring it back again.

stevie-d