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lapta6


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Message Posted:
03/02/2010 17:22

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Can anyone tell me if it is still 6 years and you can then apply for permenant residency and how much does it cost.



Groucho



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03/02/2010 17:40

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Once you have completed 5 full years, so when your sixth application goes in. However we are hearing some odd things about days of absence from the TRNC in that somebody has been told that if ALL the days you've been out of the TRNC add up to more than 100 over the five years - then you can't apply...



It sounds like nonsense and moving goal posts but I kid you not.....



Perhaps somebody at the BRS could make official contact and do something useful for us by finding out what the score really is.



scruff


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03/02/2010 17:49

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I'm not sure if this is the current cost but I do know that 3/4 yrs ago, friends paid nearly 1,000 to obtain Permanent residency for 2 people. Also I'm not sure if this was just the Government fee or if this figure included the obligatory medicals as well. It certainly won't have got any cheaper?

This may have changed but when we enquired, we were told that you cannot get Perm. residency without a kocan. I also know of someone who had been here years, but could not get it because he was renting. This was also several years ago.

The Government have been making it increasing difficult to get Permanent Residency over the years & as for Citizenship then forget it, unless you are a TC.



cyprusishome


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03/02/2010 18:04

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There was a posting recently, somewhere and the cost was quoted at about 1270tl each. Not sure if medical was top but probably.



Really depends on how long you intend to stay, if it is more than 5 years and that is only cost then fine.



cyprusishome


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03/02/2010 18:07

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J. as for kocan, a miracle happened yesterday and we got our title deeds.



Probably never get final approval but hey, ho!!!!



Maz


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03/02/2010 19:15

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Perhaps IU can help, as I have been speaking to Immigration only recently about this, so have up to date answers. However, we all k.now this can change, but, for now:



1. You can apply when you have your 6th renewal (which if you are over 60 you can ask for 2 years if you really don't want to go for Permanent - this also applies to earlier years.

2. You put in your application and will need: a. clearance form to show you have no criminal record - not sure if that is from here or U.K, but I will clarify that in the next few days. b. In and out form from the Police Station in Lefkosia (if you have been out of the country for more than 90 days IN ONE YEAR you cannot apply); c. Sales agreement ior kocan.; d. Bank statements from U.K (NOT here) showing income; e. copy of Marriage Certificate. f. Copy of birth certificate. g. two photographs.

3. You will later be sent for a medical by the Immigration office, and do not bother to do so before.

4. If and when approved, it will



Maz


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03/02/2010 19:20

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cont....

4. If and when approved it will cost you 1,200tl each. (Not sure whether that includes the 185tl you have to pay for your 6th residency, or whether on top), so in effect the cost is the same as before.



As to benefits, I am assured from a very high source that you can then apply for and get a White Identity card (A kimlik card)and come and go just like any TRNC citizen. (although other sources say you are allowed out of the country for six months) A law was passed in 2009, and paragraph 20 states that.



Incidentally, while writing this it might help some readers toknow that if you are over age 60 or disabled THERE IS NO QUEING AT IMMIGRATION, so forget about going at 5.30a.m. and taking a flask and sandwiches. But be nice to the kind man who hands out tickets, he might not be aware of this, but I have it in writing from a very high source.(namely the P.M.'s office)



Hope that answers all questions. And hope that it does not change overnight again!



Carndi


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Message Posted:
03/02/2010 19:31

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My wife and I applied last October but have just been informed by a TC friend ,who helped us through the process, that permanant residency has been put on hold until after the Presidental elections.

Those who have applied allready but have not received notification will have to re-apply.

We have decided not to bother. The way they change the rules here you could pay your fee and then find that

they will introduce a new rule if they think it will mean more cash.



Maz


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Message Posted:
03/02/2010 19:35

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I wasn't told that,but will double check for my own 'selfish ends'. I think that it is possible that it is CITIZENSHIP that has been put on hold and NOT permanent residency. But obviously double checking is required. Did you duble check with Immigration Carndi?



scruff


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04/02/2010 02:19

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MarieB

I heard, just tonight, that someone (not someone I know) had recently been over to pick up his Temporary Residency & was asked on the counter if he wanted 2 years? Fortunately he had enough money with him & went for it. At the very least he saves himself a Muhtars letter & the hassle next year.

This 2 years temp. residency has been mentioned in Cyprus Today last year & again very recently.

Another friend who has recently returned to the UK. to live for good, asked last year about 2 years & was told no. She was applying for her 13th Temp. Residency. She was over 60.

Are you suggesting in your message 6, that 2 year residency renewal is only available if you are over 60? Do you have to be invited to accept this at the immigration office & is it conditional on maybe your financial circumstances or is 2 year renewal available on demand for anyone over 60?

I would very much appreciate clarification on this matter by someone that really knows for sure



Panchocat


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Message Posted:
04/02/2010 10:33

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With friends the other day who have had permanent residency for a few years now, they have been told of a new law by other permanent resident friends. They had a phone call from immigration to say that all permanent residents had to go to immigration every two years to prove that they were still here, they were told to take their in/outs from the police station with them.



Carndi


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04/02/2010 12:57

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Marieb. As our Temporary Residency is due for renewal this month our TC friend went to check up on our application for Permanant Residency and came back with the news about all applications for P R being suspended until after the elections.

If you do find out anything it would be appreciated it if you could inform us via this forum.

Thanks.



Maz


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Message Posted:
04/02/2010 18:57

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Hi guys. This is all so clear that rules change so quickly we can all be REALLY confused.

All I know was contained in a letter from Mr Denktash who had received info from the P.M. office.



No mention of the need for a Permanent Resident to reapply after two years, but I had heard from a lady in Immigraiton that there is the possibility that they will double check on money and nothing else. In other words they want to make sure you have neough money tos tay. Personally, I feel if I want to starve myself down to a size zero due to lack of funds that is my choice, but they make laws here for reasons they feel are good.



But on the matter of over 60, what I have had written to me is: "if ther person concerned is 60 years old he/she is given a 2 year permit for residence if asked for.' So, I guess it is not offered on a plate and you must say you would like it.

I think both these are fairly new.

As to PR being suspended, I did say on another thread that as I understood it (from



Maz


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Message Posted:
04/02/2010 18:59

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, sorry, cont..... As I understood it, it is not P.R that is suspended but citizenship. But this was muted a while ago and Mr Eroglu said that it was illegal to do so and reinstated the fact that people could apply, BUT that what was being handed out at the moment was citizenship to partners of citizens, and that for the rest of us, we would have to wait, but certainly form the letter I have from Mr Denktas dated the 3rd February, there are no restricitons on applying for permanent residency.



Hope that helps. I am not , as a friend of mine would say, 'the repository of all wisdom' but I do have a letter from Mr Denktash, and I believe him.



newscoop


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Message Posted:
02/03/2010 22:44

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Marie;



re citizenship I hope im' indoors has done his army/navy/RAF sevice in the Uk.



Maz


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Message Posted:
02/03/2010 22:55

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Sadly yes he has alreadydone his RAF service in U.K. I say ';sadly' cos I think it would make a super story to sell world wide of an 80 year old sitting peeling potatoes, unable to cavort round firing ranges, and not speaking one word of Turkish. But I understand that story is denied me, cos he did his bit for King and Country. And I mean 'King'.Pity innit!?



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