Hindu wins right to traditional cremation in UK

Carndi


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 613

Message Posted:
10/02/2010 18:37

A Hindu has won the right to have a traditional cremation when he dies. This High Court ruling opens the door to all Hindus to have open air cremations.

The cremation will have to take place in a selected location which has to be surrounded by walls.

It was argued this was a religeous belief.

The question now is; will all religeous beliefs have to be recognised as prior to this,open air cremations was against our laws.

What are your thoughts ?



Please please treat as serious.

deecyprus4


Joined: 27/07/2008
Posts: 3452

Message Posted:
10/02/2010 18:50

I think it is outrageous...our country really is going to the dogs, what next I wonder.

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
10/02/2010 18:54

Carndi we are told told here to respect that we are guests here and to obey the rules of the country.I think that the laws of our country UK should also be respected but it sems we will now bend over backwards to incorporate every ones elses beleifs, I would hate to see a body on a funeral pyre. Im sure it will change as brits are probably now the minority xx

Woodspeckie


Joined: 25/01/2009
Posts: 2263

Message Posted:
10/02/2010 18:57

Floodgates and Open spring to mind. The laws of the UK are meaningless and open to abuse, we can get fined for burning rubbish in the garden.

TheSaints



Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 1369

Message Posted:
10/02/2010 19:12

So what if you died in a non Christian country would you not want or expect a Christian Funeral?

Lilli



Joined: 21/07/2008
Posts: 13081

Message Posted:
10/02/2010 19:14

true mike i know i would if god forbid that happened here. love to you both xx

Carndi


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 613

Message Posted:
10/02/2010 19:28

In relation to this particular subject I dont see a big problem BUT does this mean that other religious beliefs

may be have to be recognised which are against the laws of our country and our religious beliefs ?

TheSaints



Joined: 28/01/2009
Posts: 1369

Message Posted:
10/02/2010 19:32

Carndi



If you read the article in full this was not to be an open air creamation the article did state that there would be walls built around the Pyre and a roof put on it with a flue fitted...... So what is the purpose of your original post?

smithy


Joined: 17/07/2008
Posts: 5301

Message Posted:
10/02/2010 21:10

Why dont they fly the body when he dies back to his Country for the funeral, thats what I would have had to do as I dont believe in burials only cremations and they dont carry that out in the TRNC so ship him back why should we bow down to their every whim

phylray



Joined: 21/09/2007
Posts: 1727

Message Posted:
10/02/2010 22:11

I can't see any problem with it if there are walls all around. My Hindu husband died at 44 in this

country and there was no problem about a cremation at our nearest crematorium. His parents were

visiting for first time and they accepted this, and I did send ashes back for his mother's sake really as

he wished, for putting into Ganges. Our local undertaker and the congregational church were very understanding and helpful.

N.Cyprus population is manly Muslim, but there are churches of most denomination here, and even

a British ceremony so I don't see any problem. First time I went into a R.C church was in Istanbul

cyprusishome


Joined: 31/03/2007
Posts: 2381

Message Posted:
10/02/2010 22:37

I think it is an excellent result for religious tolerance.



The ceremony will be held in private, behind closed doors and will not have any direct impact on anyone else.



Maybe the rules on cremation will be changed on Cyprus, remember it is still illegal in the RoC, so that any of us who live here can have a that mode of disposal if we so wish. I do not want to be buried but that is the law at the moment here, so be it.



Smithy, has anyone said where this gentleman was born. He may be a British subject and entitled to be served by the law of the land. I am a Buddhist, does that mean you would send me to Tibet because that is the original home of my religion for burial or cremation.



This topic I hope will run a sensible course because it deserves a PROPER hearing.

Carndi


Joined: 12/06/2009
Posts: 613

Message Posted:
11/02/2010

The Saints. I did read the report and I did mention the walls and as I said in 7/11 I dont have a problem with it BUT, and again I ask the question, does this mean that other religious beliefs will have to be recognised even though they are against the law and our Christian beliefs.

Dusterbruce


Joined: 03/08/2007
Posts: 1125

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 00:06

If you wanted a Christian funeral service in Saudi Arabia I doubt you would get your wishes!

YeniTom


Joined: 29/12/2009
Posts: 198

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 00:33

As I understand it. Earlier cremations like these were banned because they wanted to be outside in the open and in the UK cremations have to take place in a building. This request was banned earlier but went to appeal as there was a discrepency in the law as regards the definition of 'a building' but his now been sorted by the appeal Judges.



Similar to the smoking rules and outside areas I think.



I personally can't see any harm in it as long as the law now is followed and it takes place in a building ie. enclosed and not in general view.



Wondering about smokeless zone rules though?



Tom

TopTen


Joined: 15/04/2009
Posts: 1246

Message Posted:
11/02/2010 09:52

Lets encourage all the worlds lowlifes and scumbags to the uk then pull the bloody plug and sink it.

Never thought I would agree with the Australians but they have it bang right ie "You can,t or will not abide by Australian laws then don,t bloody come, because we will not change them for you."