[ QUIZ-3 ] What do you know about St Hilarion Castle..?

DutchCrusader



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14/02/2010 09:54

1 : The first poster with the right answer in this thread wins a free ticket for the next Medieval Cyprus Fellowship lecture: "The Secrets of St Hilarion Castle!" (Wednesday, February 24, 2.30 pm, doors open 2 pm, venue: Denizhan Bar & Restaurant, Alsancak).

2 : Click this URL and study the picture: http://is.gd/8lJ08

3 : St Hilarion quiz question-3: WHY did the Lusignan Kings build this gate, WHERE do you find it and WHAT is the official name..?

4 : Hint-1: "In the Templar stables horses were waiting..."

5 : Answers before 8 pm, Sunday, February 14, 2010.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 11:49

Hint-2: "If an enemy besieged the castle - Karmi, Zeytinlik and Cerennia (one of the medieval names of now Girne/Kyrenia)..."

More of the picture in msg 1 (click link): http://is.gd/8m0dw

Hatty


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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 11:56

Can I have another go?

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 12:00

The entrance to a rugby pitch, maybe the precursor to Twickenham!



Richard

Hatty


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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 12:04

I don't think it is an entrance

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 12:11

RE msg 3, hatty: Of course!

RE msg 4, Brinsley: Reading your contributions to several threads I fully understand why the Lowlanders (now Netherlanders) didn't want New Zealand, when they (it's disputed) discovered your native country.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 12:13

RE msg 5, hatty: (...) I don't think it is an entrance (...)

=> Hmm. Sometimes it was...

Brinsley


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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 12:20

Answer Msg 1

It must be the gateway to paradise where Abel Tasman once sat and kicked himself for not setting down on 'gods own soil' and claim it for himself and his fellow clog-makers!



Richard

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 13:47

Hint-3: "The top ..... .... was for the Royal Lusignan family and the highest French (Anglo-Norman) nobility, when it was too hot in the Royal palace in Nicosia (medieval names Ledra, Cossia and many bastardizations) and St Hilarion castle was used as the summer residence..."

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 14:42

Hint-4: Two words, count the dots. "The small pictured gate is also known as a ....... ....". And in English castles (usually at the back) they were used for the same purpose...

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 15:56

Is it the entrance to the Belvedere?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 17:23

RE msg 11, No1Doyen: No, I'm sorry (not), Bill...

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 17:31

Are you sure Hans? )

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 17:38

Is it the entrance tonthe upper ward?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 17:38

RE msg 12, No1Doyen: I think I'm not supposed to use the English world 'bloody', Bill, but in your case I'm bl**dy sure...

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 17:47

It was part of the drawbridge.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 17:54

Nope, Bill! Shall I give you some sites with castle terms, so you can try 'em all...

Hatty


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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 17:58

It's in the middle ward?

thomarge



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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 17:59

Could it be as simple as the "kitchen gate"

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 18:01

Well, two hours to go, before this quiz expires... I think I'm going to win this time... Hint-5, maybe too easy... The dots in previous posts: 1 : "S.... p..." and the second word for the same gate: "P...... g...".

Hatty


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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 18:02

Postern gate

thomarge



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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 18:04

Well, being in the back, I guess it could be the "postern gate"

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 18:05

Hatty: amazing! However: 1/3 point - because what is the other name? And why did the Lusignan Kings build them>?

Hatty


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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 18:08

I think it was an escape route, not sure about the other name

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 18:15

2/3 point for Hatty... She can still be beaten...

thomarge



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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 18:30

This must be it, a "sally-port, in order to rush out for defence, strike or whatever.

Hatty


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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 18:38

I think that could well be right

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 18:54

1/3 point for thomarge!

The score after three quizzes: 1 2/3 Hatty and 1/3 for thomarge (although it's sally port and not sally-port )!

There are three sally ports in St Hilarion castle, one at every level. Level-1: in the eastern wall (escape for men-at-arms to Kyrenia), level-2: if the castle was about to be taken by an enemy the lower nobility could escape to Zeytinlik (Ottoman Turk since 1571 and later Cypriot Turk for centuries), where the Knights Templar had stables with fresh horses 24/7 available. The foundation of the stables can still be seen in old Zeytinlik (the village Zeytinlik we know today is much younger). The third and most important sally port gave the Lusignan Royal family and all the important nobles a chance to escape to Karmi (now Karaman) via the slopes of the Kyrenia mountain range. Here's the picture of the sally port at the second level of St Hilarion Castle: http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/S3500557_72_3.jpg

thomarge



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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 19:30

Hi Hatty.

I there is still a free ticket for the next Medieval Cyprus Fellowship lecture: "The Secrets of St Hilarion Castle!" to be had, then I shall hereby relinquish any and all dubious claims that I may, or may not have had, to said ticket. At the moment I am battling heavy snows and coooold weather here in Norway. Low so far (January) was C -39.4. That's cold.

When that is said and done, I would have loved going to that lecture, free ticket or not, as I am particular fond of "old stones".

Hatty


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Message Posted:
14/02/2010 20:10

Thanks Thomas but I cannot attend either as I am battling the freezing weather in the UK, have to say it's not as cold as where you are!!