Who is to blame ????????????????????????????

Stonehousepub


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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 21:19

Who in your opinion is to blame for Cyprus being in the situation it is today... ??



Divided into south & north, South side recognised by the world, Northside unrecognised & embargoed...

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 21:21

)))



Have you got a few decades to listen to every viewpoint ?

Stonehousepub


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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 21:35

I've asked a very open question and am interested to see what replies will be made, so if you have an opinion voice it...

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 21:38

RE msg 2, 6xm: Mark, I warn you... Don't even think about it...

rowlo



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 21:45

read the genocide files msg1????

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 22:00

Dear Rowlo



re msg 5



>>read the genocide files<<



posting that might just save you from having to 'take a vacation' .. me pointing out that it about as useful reading as the opinions of Grivas or Sampson .....

Stonehousepub


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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 22:01

No body seems to want to voice thier personal opinion on this subject...

rowlo



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 22:12

msg6 dear 6xm remember in your times of trouble ,I actually stood up for you ,lmao

WAZ-24-7



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 22:15

Mihail Cristodoulou Mouskos better known as Archbishop Makarios

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 22:18

re msg 8



I haven't forgotten ... not sure why you might think otherwise ;)

karakum5c



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 22:18

The answer is God ..............ah but which one, in the Green corner we have Allah and in the Red corner we have Jesus...........with only ten seconds to go untill the bell goes for round 12,678!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





I come from the west of Scotland and we have been fighting a religious war against our neighbours who live on the same streets as us for hundreds of years.............when i asked my brother inlaw why his son was not going to the local youth group with my son anymore, he told me he didnt want him playing with protestants or as he put it to his 10 year old son........ " i dont want you mixing with orange bastards ! "



Cyprus or Scotland the divide is sometimes unbridgable with or without a border.

mmmmmm



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 22:21

re msg 3, I refer you to msg 4 ;)



oh, OK.. It's because of the Greeks the Turks, the British and the Americans.. The Cypriots were played... and performed as expected..



The UK kept her bases, and the US kept friendly with Turkey

newlad



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 22:23

Dont forget the Greek coup and the Turkish intervention,

Paul.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 22:28

And because of all the problems in Cyprus poor 6xm was banned! [ THE END ]

MUSIN M


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Message Posted:
15/02/2010 22:37

msg 1



a small detail i believe tells the story ,the gc,s and the greeks removing all trace of turkish cypriots.

or trying to.



the rest as we know it ,,,,,,, is history.



musin



long live the kktc

rigsby


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Message Posted:
16/02/2010 11:46

Probably the the english,Giving it up.

Stonehousepub


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Message Posted:
16/02/2010 15:11

Mark has hit the nail on the head....msg 12

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
16/02/2010 15:14

What Cyprus situation? )

Harold2555



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Message Posted:
16/02/2010 15:41

Bill



the scarcity of Marmite in Lemar!



Harold

erolz


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Message Posted:
17/02/2010 05:51

There is no real answer to the question.



You can blame the ottomans, in the sense that if they had not conquered Cyprus in the 1500s then the problem today would not exist, but that to me is a cop out.



I personaly believe that first and foremost it is Cypriots who are to blame for the state of Cyprus today. Yes certainly foreign powers pursuing their own self interests all played and play a part, Turkey, Greece, Britian the USA, Russia and others but more than any of these we as cypriots by our own choices and own actions have created the situation we now have in Cyprus. Where we were and are manipulated by foriegn powers it is because we chose to behave in ways and follow ideologies that allow them to do this. Blaming solely 'foriegners' or exclusively the 'other' community for the state of Cyprus today is ni my view just a form of denial.



I also agree with the quote attibuted to Makarios in an interview given to Norwegian newspaper in 1977



[cont]

erolz


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Message Posted:
17/02/2010 05:52

"It is in the name of Enosis that Cyprus has been destroyed"

RoxyBob


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Message Posted:
17/02/2010 06:46

Re Msg 6



I don't know how old you are but from your photograph I would guess you weren't around in the sixties and early seventies, so you must be making opionions by what you have read.

I lived in Cyprus in the late sixties and early seventies and witnessed what was going on. The TC were pushed in to enclaves in fear of their lives and by 1974 the Turks had to come to their rescue.

The British and American governments should take a little of the blame as they condoned the Turks intervention then shunned them afterwards.



Re Msg 11



Don't think it's religion. The GC don't want anyone on the Island but GC. Just think about EOKA. Brits out etc etc.

Tenakoutou



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Message Posted:
17/02/2010 12:54

The GC's and TC's are unwittingly and perennially, but conveniently for those with a vested interest in their divergence, their own best 'agent provocateurs'.



'Divide and rule!' - that's the 'name of the game' for Cyprus, until the 'powers that be' decide on this island's fate.



And until then, we can all keep on hypothesising 'until the cows come home'!



Let the Cypriot negotiators have plenty of sumptious 'wining and dining' in 'far flung places' - it's cheap at the price!