[QUIZ-12-END] St Hilarion: what are they discussing..?

DutchCrusader



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22/02/2010 12:32

1 : The first poster with the right answer in this thread wins a free ticket for (one of) the next Medieval Cyprus Fellowship lecture(s): "The Secrets of St Hilarion Castle!" (Wednesday, February 24, 2.30 pm, doors open 2 pm, venue: Denizhan Bar & Restaurant, Alsancak). Reservations via email: mcf.trnc@gmail.com .



2 : Photograph as Hint-1 here (click link): http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/P1050411_72.jpg .

3 : Quiz question-: St Hilarion still holds many secrets and some will never be answered, because of the lack of medieval documentation. On this spot (see picture) my friend, the official St Hilarion guide Mustafa Tolgali and I are discussing and speculating about one of the secrets. Which one..?

4 : Answers before 8 pm, Monday, February 22, 2010.



The scores: Hatty: 3 2/3x, No1Doyen: 2x, Clarissa2: 1x, Darrener2: 2/3 pt, Dalarokat 0,5 pt and thomarge: 1/3 pt.



This is the final Quiz-Question in the St Hilarion series.

DutchCrusader



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22/02/2010 12:47

Erratum in msg 1: 4 : Answers before 8 pm, Monday, February 22, 2010. Should be: 4 : Answers before 8 pm, Tuesday, February 23, 2010.

darrener2


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22/02/2010 13:09

Good grief DC! This is a hard one but, I think that Mustafa Tolgali is either telling you that the original inhabitants were about 1.25 m high OR you are discussing the position of the elusive 101st ? room and its' secret garden and treasure trove.



D2

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 13:09

They are discussing whether or not I should get an extra point for my one of my previous anwers where I used the plural instead of the sungular )

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 13:11

The elusive room is being discussed.

DutchCrusader



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22/02/2010 13:37

Hint-2 (because this is a very difficult question and I think even Hatty will fail this time...): we started walking/talking at nr. 24 on this cut-out of my map and walked northeast on the footpath, looked left, stopped, turned and looked west...

P.S. Can I make it easier..?

DutchCrusader



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22/02/2010 13:38

RE msg 6: here's the map I mentioned in my previous message: http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/1_first_plateau.jpg

darrener2


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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 13:45

The flat area of ground in the Middle Ward which is supposed to have been used for jousting.

DutchCrusader



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22/02/2010 13:55

Darrener2: There is no flat ground in the Middle (or second plateau, level) Ward. Jousting (horses/spears) was done here:

Artists impression: http://www.allcrusades.com/CASTLES/CYPRUS/ST.%20HILARION/Daily_life/pictures/s3500857.html

Photobook: http://www.allcrusades.com/CASTLES/CYPRUS/ST.%20HILARION/PHO_PIC_WEB/JOUSTING%20FIELD/index.html

darrener2


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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 14:08

That's me told then! lol

Back to the drawing board.

darrener2


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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 14:13

OK, last try...

You are discussing whether the castle was built on the site of an earlier monastery as has been suggested.

DutchCrusader



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22/02/2010 14:22

Darrener2: I'm so very sorry... And the castle was not built ON (*) the site of an earlier monastery, but AROUND it and enlarged throughout the centuries from 1192 onwards.

Re "ON (*)": parts are still standing (second level), for example the Byzantine church and neighbouring buildings and rooms.

Hatty


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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 14:22

Prince John's Tower?

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 14:24

Hatty: Is this your answer or a question?

Hatty


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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 14:27

It is my first answer

darrener2


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22/02/2010 14:38

Blimey DC. You are even more pedantic than I. lol

When I said 'on the site' of course I meant on and around the site, as I am sure that in addition to the buildings you described still remaining, there will have been others which are no longer there, having been destroyed and the sites built upon in later years.



Good quizzes. They will make me look at the place in a whole new light the next time I climb to the top.

Thank you.



D2

Hatty


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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 14:43

I agree with D2 great quiz - never been to the castle but will definatley try and get up there when I am next over, if it's not too hot!

Clarissa2


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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 15:22

Ghosts of the Bulgarian guards thrown from the tower who been seen walking along this path!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 15:28

The Tower.........

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 15:29

The Window...........

No1Doyen


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22/02/2010 15:30

The Old Wall.................

Jetski


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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 15:40

The cistern

Clarissa2


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22/02/2010 15:51

Life, the Universe and Everything!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 15:57

They were discussing the Pythagorean theorem in Euclidean geometry. )

mamachina


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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 16:35

Trying to work out the direction of the original steps/stairs to the main wall and tower.

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 18:55

Tsk! One more hour, ladies, gentlemen and other Brits...

DutchCrusader



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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 19:40

OK, 8 pm, the end of the St Hilarion Quiz-Questions! I owe you the right answer!

Look at this map: http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/1_first_plateau.jpg and find nr. 24 in a circle. Here you will see these cemented stones ( http://www.allcrusades.com/BB_pics/S5001088.JPG ), definitely suggesting and even indicating the last part of a wall. And a wall of this type suggests buildings/rooms. The problem is that digging on this spot in St Hilarion is not allowed (of course not, I hasten to say!) and Mustafa and I have not found other traces of building. We've spend there quite some time several times, but until now - nothing. And that's what we were talking about again!

So here are the final scores: Hatty: 3 2/3x, No1Doyen: 2x, Clarissa2: 1x, Darrener2: 2/3 pt, Dalarokat 0,5 pt and thomarge: 1/3 pt. Well done all!

P.S. Interested in another series of Quiz-Questions? Which medieval subject do you prefer? Or shall I chose? Let me know!

Lilli



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Message Posted:
22/02/2010 20:11

you choose dc we love them all

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
23/02/2010 09:29

Hans. What about Europe during the Crusades. This is my favourite subject. )

DutchCrusader



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23/02/2010 10:41

Bill, that's where my interest in the Crusade movement started - decades ago. Too late I realised that I would not live long enough to see it all or know it all. So when I saw the light I decided to know as much as possible about Cyprus and the Crusades. Difficult enough and still too much for a man's lifetime!

No1Doyen


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Message Posted:
23/02/2010 11:24

This period was usually called the High Middle Ages.

DutchCrusader



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23/02/2010 11:45

RE msg 31, No1Doyen: (...) This period was usually called the High Middle Ages. (...)

=> Thank you for this information, Bill! Never too old to learn, eh?