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goofyfunk



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24/02/2010 19:55

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Can some one tell me why the golf fees at the esentepe golf resort are so over price compared with other golf resorts around the med , there even more expensive than some uk clubs , surly they must be loosing money hand over fist ?????£££££ , can some one tell me why many thanks .



rowlo



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ive asked the same question myself , if they dropped the joining fee ,and just wanted green fees they would prabably make loads , where i play back home ,joining fees were scrapped and the membership trebled , dont make sense to me , played with a member last week ,he said they only have 100 members ,



arrry



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24/02/2010 21:38

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It's madness ! The course is empty but they will not drop the fees . It is a lovely golf course but the staff out number the players !!



decanddyl


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24/02/2010 22:56

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Very much agree with the above comments. A vast number of clubs in Scotland were doing away with a joining fee and only charging annual green fee. I was a member of two clubs in the Aberdeen area and paid less than £450 for them both. It appears that demand over here does not mean they would bring the prices down.



greylag


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24/02/2010 23:09

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How much are we talking for a round of golf guys,

Grey.



Hippo


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25/02/2010 06:18

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Excuse me Mr Goofyfunk but you really should do your homework before putting the proverbial poda in the facial orifice.



Contrary to your statement that Korinium is more expensive than other courses in the Mediterranean is absolute nonsense. Korinium is competitively priced with Spain Portugal and even Tunisia only in France will you find it somewhat cheaper.



There is I agree a small membership at Korinium but would it increase if the fees where lowered,? marginally I would suggest.



it is interesting that the only negative comments about Korinium come from non members and possibly non golfers.



Here in the TRNC we have a first class golf facility, a second to none club house, and accommodation that is of excellent quality and competiley priced.



For those that do not want to pay the fee there is always the CMC course at Guzeleyurt, no where of the same quality but in a beautiful setting near the sea.



Or go South to Aphrodite Hills only 150 euroes there for a round



Doonhamer


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25/02/2010 07:48

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Must agree with Hippo and I am not a member, I would imagine that the clubs you speak about in the UK will be well established with a healthy membership and is part of the community, also most likely owned / leased and administered by the members, this is a private business venture that cost millions to prepare and the owners have to get into profit, look at new golfing countries anywhere in the world and it will be the same, it is just a different scenario to the UK. I do not feel that reducing the fees would attract many new members, if it is to expensive for them just now and the fees were reduced do you believe they would be able to afford the other facilities there I don't, just play golf and leave, golf is more than just playing the game it's also the comradeship that UK clubs have and most likely why Korenium won't, so don't expect these new overseas clubs to be the same as UK golf clubs. I remember someone who was involved in the construction of the course telling me these



Doonhamer


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25/02/2010 07:50

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these clubs are not looking for 'golfers' they want people with money, no different than any other business. If you can't afford it, just forget it, if you are a good golfer it's their loss, join CMC and enjoy your golf



scruffdog


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25/02/2010 10:28

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There are not enough people with money over here to keep a golf club going. Last week coach loads were there on an offer, accommodation golf and all the facilities for less than members pay!!! Any businessman knows you have to get the people through the door to make a profit. I know of at least six people who would use the main course regularly at a reasonable price, they always have a drink afterwards and use the buggies when they do play, so multiply that by all the other groups who would do likewise and they would see the money coming in. Competition at the weekend, there used to be food/drinks available around the course, that has gone I believe. They should try for one month a special offer and see how much business it would attract and then grow from there, but over here if you are loosing money, put the price up.



parkview



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I am not a golfer but I have friends that are and to be honest I worked out what is costs them each a year and its less than me going to a pilates class 3 times a week at 12 tl a time. It is not expensive if as a member you use it alot. The golf course is spectacular and a huge amount of investment has been spent.



rowlo



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25/02/2010 10:33

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msg5,greylag, playedlast week 177 tl 18 holes with buggy .



JohhnyLee


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25/02/2010 10:41

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I do not play golf, but I thought golf was normally a fairly expensive hobby, and like some one so rightly pointed out the investment and setting up cost's there must have been massive.



I cannot work out how they can ever get the money back.



We where keen waterskiiers, and that was probably the most expensive hobby you could have



Somtimes if you enjoy it you have to pay for it.



But yes it would seem to make more sense, lower the fees and get more turnover.



Texas


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25/02/2010 11:09

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Why have they not built/sold villas/apartments, etc?



All the local properties for sale nearby, advertise that they are within "X" minutes from the new Championship Golf Course.



I would like a villa at the end of the 13th! Failing that, by the lake to the back/right of the 16th green. I parred that yesterday! (Missed my birdie putt, though).



TopTen


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25/02/2010 16:21

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Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



negativenick


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25/02/2010 16:36

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or as my old Uncle Percy used to say "the only one who makes money out of a golf course is the third owner".......



greylag


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25/02/2010 21:26

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So how much for a round of golf then,

Grey.



rowlo



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read my msg 11, i told you ?



mahdel


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25/02/2010 21:42

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is about 180 normal for a round (as per Rowlo's suggestion)? I ask because I love playing but come from a place where 20 dollars will buy you a round at a former US Open course. I'd love to take it up again, but at damn near 100 pounds a round I'm not that interested. Is there a "cheap" course as we might say on the island?



greylag


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Sorry Rowlo,

Grey.



greylag


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Have to agree with mess 1 fees are to high,

Paul.



cyprusjoker


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25/02/2010 22:24

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Worth every penny.. Fantastic golf course.



greylag


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25/02/2010 22:35

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Would love to play it.Just seems a bit over priced to me,

Grey.



pemos


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01/03/2010 07:34

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ı wish everyone would look on the posıtıve sıde of thıngs here Dr Cerkez has put a massıve ınvestment ınto korıneum and thıs ıs for the benefıt of all golfers thıs ıs not the uk he pays a fortune to water the course through the desal plant and stıll keeps ınvestıng ınto the course ıf thıs club was ın the uk you would have to pay a lot more than we do here and would have to go on a waıtıng list to get ın

my club charged 1200pounds 5 years ago for membershıp and was no where near the standard of korıneum



rowlo



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greylag msg22 its 25 pounds for nine holes if you go on with a member , im playing in the morning as a members guest , if you want nine holes get back asap cheers.



rcroton


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01/03/2010 11:20

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Its well worth the money, If people dont have the money to play, dont just complain about the course being expensive. In Qatar membership will GBP 2,500 a year. The costs of running a course are quite expensive you know especially in warm countries! It does however do a lot of good for the country that you can not simply put a value on.



sissy


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01/03/2010 12:42

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It mights be a fantastic golf course, but its only for the few that can afford it.



My son-in-law myself and grandaughter would love a few rounds of golf when we come over.



In my view the club would benefit if the funds were reduced, lots more people would play,



and not only that the restaurant and bar would benefit.



spud1


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01/03/2010 13:57

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Its a first class course and well worth the green fees. just returned from golfing in turkey average green fees there 75 euros. spud1.



SolihullTim


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22/03/2010 21:59

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If the course is as good as people say then I'd be happy to pay up to £100 as a one off (with buggy cause I love buggies when I'm on holiday!). It would however be a one-off at that price and I'd be looking for some sort of deal if I was going to play there a few times over a week/fortnight.



Having played for 40 years, I have played at some of the best clubs in UK, Ireland, USA, Spain & Portugal and I think I have a good appreciation of what's good value and what's not.



I also go on an annual golfing trip with about 16 members from my own club (mostly single figure hcap) and we look for a combination of great courses which can be costly and average courses which are obviously cheaper. It doesn't always work out like that - there are lots of 'great' courses that we haven't rated as high as the 'average' courses.



I look forward to playing K. in May when I visit for a couple of weeks and fully believe, from the reviews I have seen, that this will prove to be good value.



newscoop


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22/03/2010 22:14

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Solihull Tim



Fat chance of getting a deal but the course is comparable to some in Portugal like Pineiros Altos and Quinta, though not as good as Sao Laurenco.



twoexpats


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23/03/2010 09:47

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Solihull Tim



Check out their web site -High season charges green fees Euro 64, Buggy 18, less if you team up with a member. The web site also has photographs of the course including pictures from the recent club championship competition.

If you are over on 16th May there is a competition which you may be able to enter- see their fixtures list. I note they have allowed visitors to enter previous comps.



parky


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23/03/2010 12:55

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The prices are comparable, actually cheaper than Belek in Turkey, buggies i think are 30 euros there, and if you are a member after you write off the joining fee, if you play twice a week it works out about £12 a round.

So not expensive at all.



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