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Jeffery


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Long Term Lease & Clean Registered company for sale

Nice & Big Size Bar.........Running Condition

Great Locationin and big area in Alsancak... very good for english style Bar/Pub in the town.

Please Contact Only Very serious Business People.

Very Good oppertunity. (Get Ready Before Summer Starts)



Please Contact 5:00pm to 9:00pm 0542 875 60 30



Lilli



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oh jeffery not you as well, its all so sad now. there will be no where to go. its just so sad we have to rely on tourists and villa/ flat owners and not the community of ex pats and locals



Jeffery


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Hi Lilli.



Got another idea for u.

Can u call me tomorrow please



Whistler


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25/02/2010 23:29

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Liz. I think the ex-pats and locals are all hibernating because of the dark, cold nights. Think you will find once the weather clears up things will change.



Lilli



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jeffery email me your number guidoandliz@yahoo.co uk. speak to you tomorriw xxxxxxxxxxxxxx



professoregit


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It is clear that Restaurant/Bar businesses are going through a very difficult winter period. The worse I have

seen in 4 years. You would think that the letting Landlords would assist businesses with reductions during this period, say until May. But hey, this is Cyprus, not much forsite when it comes to business. They would rather have no income than let their outlets at a temporarily reduced fee.



RoxyBob


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It's obvious why the restaurants and bars are not doing too well, there are too many of them.



TopTen


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People cannot afford to dine out every evening, also there is not a lot of difference in menu,s so when you do dine out you choose the place that you like the most. Also it tends to be a catch 22 situation, restaurants that are not as popular as say "Effendi" have to try and compete by price reduction, if their rent and overheads allow. And landlords need educating to the fact that if they keep increasing rents they will be left with empty premises with no income because their tenants need to keep their prices competetive.Also try to be different with food offered because all restaurants have basically the same fare.Also I would try and negotiate with the landlord a period in the winter when we could close down, paying a peppercorn rent then reopening in say the end of March.



scoobydoo


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Msg 6: It's not just Cyprus when it comes around to business sense and with what you refer to about reducing the rents to help clients out for a few months .... it happens in UK far too much.



My old high street is littered with charity shops!



Teresa


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January to March is always the worst months for any business here and the UK, asking the landlord to reduce the rent is ok but will the tax man believe the landord when he says he is getting no rent i dont think so.



Tenakoutou



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Excessive overcharging and the 'smoking ban', iniquitious TRNC tax regime and rental on premises, plus the reduction of tourists and low rate for the £ all combine to ensure that there is becoming a massive reduction in the number of bars, pubs and restaurants.



Add to the above the fact that there is precious little variety in the fare offered, it doesn't leave much incentive for folks to dine out.



I'm afraid that's it 'in a nutshell'.



professoregit


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Msg 9, This isn't the UK. It is Cyprus. As such I doubt very much that you will ever see an explosion of charity

shops here my friend.



Lambousa Gordon


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Msg 11 - by overcharging I take it you mean the enormous increases in taxes, import duties and municipality charges that have led, for instance, to provisioning and electricity costs tripling in the last three years.



Add also the spoiling effect of persons previously unacquainted with the hospitality trade opening a bar or restaurant with completely unrealistic expectatıons as to cost:price ratios.



Far too much has been said lately about rents - which are actually very low compared to other countries. If a landlord can not expect to recoup at least GBP500 per month on a premises then it is better not to let it at all rather than let it get run down by a tenant.



Jeffery


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Wish Good Luck for all Business people



scoobydoo


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Msg 12,



I guess I didn't explain myself very well, the fingers working faster than the brain; I wasn't suggesting that there would be an explosion of charity shops in TRNC I was just saying that in UK the landlords do not reduce their rents either just as here which is crazy so in UK they end up letting charity organisations having them for free when they could just as easy make money by reducing the rents and helping both themselves and the tenants.



With all the empty shops over here, surely it would make sense to reduce the rents and get them occupied and have some income.



What is that old saying "better to have 50% of something rather than 100% of nothing"



vadiev


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28/02/2010 20:53

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Jeff,



This is a disaster, no more brilliant curries !!! Can you not get together with few more restaurant owners and just all operate out of the same place then the customers could come to the restaurant any night and choose from a wide choice of different menus ???



love from us two xxx



Texas


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Jeff



Turn it into something Asian. I know Indian is Asian, but I was thinking more along the lines of a Chinese/Thai/Vietnamese. You might have to chuck more than a piece of lemon grass to a Chicken Karahi, but it's a thought.



Or, try a chinese night, once a week. Indian restaurants here do fish & chips, steak & chips, why not Chinese?



The nearest competition you would have would be near the Jasmine Court, as opposed to a few hundred metres.



I've been told you do a mean sweet & sour!



Good luck.



See you Thursday.



fishh


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01/03/2010 12:36

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Lıllı you say rely on tourıst and vılla owners. If you were lıvıng ın uk would you go out every nıght or weekly to eat out most locals englısh-turkısh they are lıvıng not on holıday people are watchıng funds and may prefer homecookıng...



Lilli



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hi fishh i totally agree with what you say, once in rome do as they do. Whereby the tourists do go out every night. Hopefully oonce the weather changes we will all get the feelgood factor once more xxx



JohhnyLee


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I said it before, many months ago there should be a restriction on the amount of Restaurants, A bit like applying for change of use on a property.



Look when The other indian restaurant opened next door to Punjab.How ridiculous . Jeff at Taj Mahal is a first rate guy, but why he ever expanded is beyond me.



The formula we used in the UK was to basically count chimmney pots.(ie population).



Problem here is a big percentage of the chimmney pots arn't lived in , and lots of the ones that are, we just don't have the income to eat out reguarly.



Please remember the economy is tough in a great many places,



I do not mean to be rude, but why do people keep opening Bars and Restaurants when they can look around and see other perfectly good ones struggling and closing.



Any one who is thinking of throwing money into a bar or Restaurant here, think long and hard



Being smaller and having lower over heads, that,s a better bet at the moment.



Jeffery


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Hi All.

I am not thinking to close my restaurant. and i would never ever do that. I



I have found a great place thats why planed to move there, but i found that was not a good idea,

and also On Special Demand of my Food Lover's & friends, Now i gaveup to sell this place,



But i will also open another place soon.



I am not moving anywhere, Taj Mahal not moving anywhere,



Thanks to all for there Advices, Comments, and appriciating me.



Best Regards to all xxxxxxxx



Jeff

Tajmahal



Lilli



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im very pleased to hear this news Jeffery. i did try to call and left 2 messages lilli xx



Kibris


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Me too Lillie me too Long live the Taj Mahall!!



vadiev


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There is a God and he cooks at the Taj Mahal !!!!!



joandjelly


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01/03/2010 17:57

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Excellent news Jeff, for us you are and always have been the best Indian restaurant in the West. Good luck to you and Emine for the coming season.



Taj-Mahal


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02/03/2010 14:22

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Thank you very much to all for appriciating Taj Mahal.



very best regards



Taj Mahal



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